Biden: “Executive action can be taken” on gun control

posted at 3:21 pm on January 9, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

We already knew this was coming, but that doesn’t make it any more welcome. Speaking at his meeting with “gun safety” advocates (talk about re-branding!) on Wednesday, Vice President Biden reiterated that the president can and will take executive action on what he deems to be good gun-control ideas after his task force’s oh-so-measured and inclusive talks with gun interests across the political spectrum.

“The president is going go act,” said Biden, who is conducting meetings all week on gun control. “There are executive orders, executive action that can be taken. We haven’t decided what that is yet, but we’re compiling it all.”

“I want to make clear that we’re not going to get caught up in the notion that, unless we can do everything, we’re going to do nothing,” Biden said. “It’s critically important we act.”

He added that there is “pretty wide consensus on three or four or five things in the gun safety area that could and should be done.”

CBS has more specifics on what some of these enhanced gun-control recommendations, meant to be submitted to the president before the end of the month, might look like:

The president indicated that he wants the task force to submit recommendations by the end of January. He also wants Congress to reestablish the ban on assault weapons, which expired in 2004; limit the size of magazines; and expand background checks, including closing the gun show loophole, which allows unlicensed sellers to sidestep checks. The task force is also expected to look at broader efforts that might include a national database of gun owners and proposals that can be implemented without congressional approval.

After the task force meeting, Dan Gross, president of the Brady Campaign, said there seems to be consensus among a diverse group of organizations in support of background checks for gun purchasers. He noted that only 40 percent of gun owners have received background checks.

Gross attempted to ease fears of gun advocates that the current debate is not about the Second Amendment or taking away guns from legal gun owners. He said the meetings and the task force is about “staking out that middle ground that so clearly exists.”

Funny how all of these “middle ground that so clearly exists”-ideas seem to confirm gun control, ahem, I’m sorry, “gun safety” advocates’ preexisting notions of fewer guns and more bureaucracy as the only solutions for stopping violence. The White House might be putting on a good show by meeting with the NRA and others tomorrow, but I severely doubt that one of the few ideas that has actually been proven to help stop violence is going to get any real consideration:

MR. CARNEY:  Well, I think as the President said, he doesn’t want to prejudge any recommendations that any stakeholder might present.  He did in his “Meet the Press” interview respond to a question about the specific recommendation that the NRA had made by saying that he was skeptical that putting more guns in schools would solve this problem.  But again, we look forward to hearing from a variety of organizations and civic groups and others who have insights into this problem.


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Seems to me they will focus heavily on tracing/limiting ammo sales while everyone is hollering about AR-15s.

There is so much ammo around that of course it won’t control the old stuff… but a lot of folks won’t want to reveal what legacy weapons they may have by giving fingerprints & licenses for specific ammo.

This will make ammo harder to get. But it also may forge closer ties among gun owners who turn to each other instead of Wal-Mart. May actually strength their organization and resolve, as an unintended consequence.

cane_loader on January 10, 2013 at 7:29 AM

which is why EVERYONE should own a bolt action .223, etc.

WryTrvllr on January 10, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Let me be clear Mr. Politician; As a law abiding citizen, Any attempt to limit my Devine Rights, enumerated in the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution, which you have sworn to Preserve, Protect and Defend, will mark you a traitor to the Republic and therfore subject to the penalty for treason, specified in the Constitution.
The Founders recognized that the voting booth was not a remedy for a tyranical government, but that force of arms was.

dirtengineer on January 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM

O (how do you get the Norwegian O, btw?) ligula. I like it. :)

totherightofthem on January 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Copy, paste and save on your Foreign Words Document.
Or … I have a standard running list of a variety of useful words, phrases and quotes. I also only use German ~§Ö§~ computer keyboards.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 10, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Let me be clear Mr. Politician; As a law abiding citizen, Any attempt to limit my Devine Rights, enumerated in the Bill of Rights of the US Constitution, which you have sworn to Preserve, Protect and Defend, will mark you a traitor to the Republic and therfore subject to the penalty for treason, specified in the Constitution.
The Founders recognized that the voting booth was not a remedy for a tyranical government, but that force of arms was.

dirtengineer on January 10, 2013 at 10:50 AM

This is pretty much what I was saying earlier in this massive thread. Any attempt to infringe on the 2nd Amendment by Obama or Congress, via EO or legislation is nothing short of an open declaration of Rebellion by Obama or Congressmen who sign on against the Republic that should immediately disqualify them from office. It would render their authority void and any actions moot.

If Obama does this EO impeachment wouldn’t even be necessary by the letter of the Constitution, since there would be far in excess of two witnesses required for a charge of Treason. He should be immediately arrested by the Capitol Police.

wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM

O (how do you get the Norwegian O, btw?) ligula. I like it. :)

totherightofthem on January 10, 2013 at 9:49 AM

PC:

(right)Alt + 0216

Ø :)

Axe on January 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM

which is why EVERYONE should own a bolt action .223, etc.

WryTrvllr on January 10, 2013 at 10:49 AM

I prefer .30-06 as it’s readily available and will put DOWN anything you have to use it against, be it any wild animal in North America to home invader, to jackbooted gun grabber.

wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 10:59 AM

But why listen to financial analysts when you can take your cues from right wing radio entertainers that really make you feel like a VICTIM!

bayam on January 9, 2013 at 10:57 PM

You mean the financial analysts that said Lehman and Bear Stearns were just fine right up until the day they died?

Nutstuyu on January 10, 2013 at 11:01 AM

You mean the financial analysts that said Lehman and Bear Stearns were just fine right up until the day they died?

Nutstuyu on January 10, 2013 at 11:01 AM

And they are the same geniuses that have been consistently “unexpecting” the actual economic data that has been released over the past 4 years too.

Why should anyone listen to ANY of them?

wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Copy, paste and save on your Foreign Words Document.
Or … I have a standard running list of a variety of useful words, phrases and quotes. I also only use German ~§Ö§~ computer keyboards.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 10, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Thanks!

totherightofthem on January 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM

PC:

(right)Alt + 0216

Ø :)

Axe on January 10, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Thanks to you, too!

totherightofthem on January 10, 2013 at 11:05 AM

I prefer .30-06 as it’s readily available and will put DOWN anything you have to use it against, be it any wild animal in North America to home invader, to jackbooted gun grabber.

wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 10:59 AM

refer back to the second paragraph of the blockquote to which I was responding

WryTrvllr on January 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Zero has already issued over 1,000 EO’s. Its how he is told to govern.
If hillary wins in 2016 the EO’s stand.The congress will never challenge his EO’s since “that would be racists.”
We are so screwed.
UN regs on gun control are not out of the question either.
OH and don’t forget the over one billion rounds of ammo just purchased by the govt. Mostly 40 cal. hollow point.

rodguy911 on January 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM

wildcat,
Screw the Capital Police; my daughter works there…more burger flippers in blue…like the TSA.
I remember the end of the old Frankenstein movie…pitchforks and fire seemed to resolve the problem.
That won’t help in this case, but an EO makes the Federal government, in total, a target.
Legislation makes every traitorous pol a target for a “Citizens Court”.
They all go “home” at some point.

dirtengineer on January 10, 2013 at 11:13 AM

OH and don’t forget the over one billion rounds of ammo just purchased by the govt. Mostly 40 cal. hollow point.

rodguy911 on January 10, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Rounds that it’s worth pointing out, (the hollow points) that the government can ONLY use against the American People domestically. It cannot be used by the military in any engagements, only solid point non expanding rounds are legal. Hollow point expanding rounds were banned in warfare in the early 1900′s.

Which tells you who this ammunition is intended to be used against: US.

wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM

The first time I saw this, I thought it was pretty brutal.

But in my mind, I’ve replaced the Royal agent with an Obama agent…be it for forced healthcare, gun control, what have ya.

Its much better my way.

BobMbx on January 10, 2013 at 11:25 AM

The first time I saw this, I thought it was pretty brutal.

But in my mind, I’ve replaced the Royal agent with an Obama agent…be it for forced healthcare, gun control, what have ya.

Its much better my way.

BobMbx on January 10, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Wasn’t long ago a drug dealer was tarred and feathered in Belfast .

EnglishRogue on January 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Bmore on January 10, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Rounds that it’s worth pointing out, (the hollow points) that the government can ONLY use against the American People domestically. It cannot be used by the military in any engagements, only solid point non expanding rounds are legal. Hollow point expanding rounds were banned in warfare in the early 1900′s.

Which tells you who this ammunition is intended to be used against: US.

wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 11:22 AM
…………………………………………………………..
I guess we should not be talking about this since it’s obviously not newsworthy according to the msm/DBM. Just antoher reason why what we do here is the future and the Drivebys are the past.

rodguy911 on January 10, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Legislation makes every traitorous pol a target for a “Citizens Court”.
They all go “home” at some point.

dirtengineer on January 10, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Damn – beat me to it. This is the kind of thing that’s best addressed at the state level, I think…

affenhauer on January 10, 2013 at 11:55 AM

… and this has me thinking back to that ‘conspiracy theory’ posted a couple of weeks ago from ‘canadafreepress’ or something similar.

Suddenly seems more plausible.

Midas on January 10, 2013 at 12:23 PM

That fact that after carefully reading and assessing my every word you can’t make an even remotely substantial response speaks volumes.

bayam on January 9, 2013 at 11:22 PM

The fact that your moronic bovine-excrement-laden post doesn’t *warrant* a substantial response speaks volumes.

Midas on January 10, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Bmore on January 10, 2013 at 11:33 AM

It’s so sad that I had to “scan” that just to be sure. :)

Axe on January 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM

Professor: Obama staged Sandy Hook massacre
Claims effort to shape public opinion in favor of gun control
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/professor-obama-staged-sandy-hook-massacre/#cjDCXqZa0DjMDEUJ.99

From the President who gave us Fast and Furious.. nothing surprises me.

Seriously… has anyone gone to jail yet for Fast and Furious?

JellyToast on January 9, 2013 at 8:03 PM

I read on another blog that RIP/donation pages were online prior to the massacre.

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/08/sandy-hook-ripdonation-webpages-created-before-the-massacre/

rah1420 on January 10, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Some thoughts:

Magazines, of all types, are not numbered and have never been, except for rare types like a WWII Luger with numbers matching magazine. ANY limiting law on magazines will require manufactures to keep books on serial numbers of magazines. In the run up to that moment, factories will be turning out magazines 24/7. In fact, I understand that KCM (a big manufacturer of 308 magazines) is pushing aside all other business to concentrate on rifle magazines. Good God, they make pallets a day as it is!

After that moment, black market factories will be turning out magazines like crazy without serial numbers because they will merely add to the pool already in existence. It is an impossible situation for the FedGov. No one is going to “turn in” their magazines to the Fed Gov to get them serial numbered.

From every direction, this is a clusterfark. I have never seen a President so tone deaf to the people who gave him permission to handle their Governmental affairs.

Bulletchaser on January 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM

My questions is: who’s making sounds coming out of Biden’s pie hole? Joe Biden is Walter

Fogpig on January 10, 2013 at 3:16 PM

A few famous quotes, which are permanently etched in American history:

“Don’t give up the ship.”

“Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead.”

“Remember the Alamo.”

“Let’s roll.”

and one that soon will be:

“I am not your subject.”

Mr. Grump on January 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Great, the carnival barkers are out in force tonight. The amusing thing about your hate talk is that after years of the right associating Obama’s policies with socialism, polls indicate that socialism is now more popular than ever among Americans. Then again, you’re too ignorant to know the difference- you haven’t read Solzhenitsyn nor studied the Soviet economic command model. You take your cues from radio personalities like Glenn Beck.

So when the day of reckoning comes and someone on the far left proposes truly socialistic policies, a serious discussion of the real evils of socialism and communism will be nearly impossible to hold with the public. By diluting the true nature of those ideologies into a meaningless and trite polemic, you’re doing more for the cause of socialism than any American since John Reed.

bayam on January 9, 2013 at 11:15 PM

You really cannot help yourself. You’re a joke.

CW on January 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM

That fact that after carefully reading and assessing my every word you can’t make an even remotely substantial response speaks volumes.

bayam on January 9, 2013 at 11:22 PM

You’re post had all the substance of what my son’s diaper used to contain. In return you received a succinct and accurate response.

Fighton03 on January 11, 2013 at 2:05 AM

Awesome photograph — Eric Holder, the guy responsible for handing over thousands of guns and grenades to Mexican Drug cartels, resulting in a reported 300+ body count – never punished for it, AND ‘Sherriff Joe’, the guy who said ‘Obama ain’t taking any of my guns – that ain’t gonna happen, sitting together & leading a commission designed to come up with ways to chip away at our 2nd Ammendment Rights…

——————

It will be very ‘telling’ to see if the administration, that completely rejected the DEBT COMMISSION’s recommendations on how to reduce the national debt, will embrace & adopt the recommendations made by Biden on how to go after our Constitutional rights…

easyt65 on January 11, 2013 at 8:19 AM

. . . . . which is why EVERYONE should own a bolt action .223, etc.

WryTrvllr
on January 10, 2013 at 10:49 AM

.
I prefer .30-06 as it’s readily available and will put DOWN anything you have to use it against, be it any wild animal in North America to home invader, to jackbooted gun grabber.

wildcat72 on January 10, 2013 at 10:59 AM

.
The .30-06 was the best “all around cartridge” thirty-five years ago, when I first started reading up on guns.

I believe it still is.

listens2glenn on January 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM

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