ESPN apologizes for Brent Musburger noticing how attractive A.J. McCarron’s girlfriend is

posted at 8:11 pm on January 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

How attractive is she? Here are the top two results on Google Trends for Monday, January 7:

No other Google search term has cracked 1,000,000 per day in the U.S. since New Year’s eve. Granted, some of the results here are due to interest in McCarron himself — he just won his second straight national title, after all — but to give you a sense of who’s really driving the buzz, compare their Twitter followers. McCarron, the hero of Alabama and reigning king of college football, stands at 117,000+ as I write this. Katherine Webb, his GF and the reigning Miss Alabama USA, started the day yesterday with just over 2,000. Current total: 183,000 and counting.

Every man who was watching the game noticed. Brent Musburger was a man who was watching the game. And yet:

Some found the remarks from Musburger, 73, out of line. On Tuesday, ESPN released this statement: “We always try to capture interesting storylines and the relationship between an Auburn grad who is Miss Alabama and the current Alabama quarterback certainly met that test. However, we apologize that the commentary in this instance went too far and Brent understands that.”

Arizona Cardinals defensive end Darnell Dockett also was among those who noticed Webb during the broadcast. He tweeted her his telephone number and suggested they meet after the game. He later tweeted that he meant to message her privately.

McCarron responded after the game, telling Docket on Twitter, “(hash)betterkeepdreaming like the rest of these dudes.”

That excerpt comes from an AP article titled “A.J. McCarron’s girlfriend in spotlight” featured prominently, replete with requisite photo of Webb, on … ESPN.com. Watch the clip and judge for yourself. I think Karl’s right: The objections have less to do with what Musburger said, which is tame, than the simple fact that he’s 73 years old. No one wants to see grandpa drooling over a coed, no matter how understandable it is — although Webb herself apparently thought it was cute and not creepy at all. Quote: “I laughed hysterically. I was flattered … and slightly embarrassed … but I thought it was the funniest thing ever. I never expected that.” McCarron seems to be taking the attention in good humor too. Aaron Murray, Georgia’s QB, also tweeted at Webb after the game. McCarron’s reply: “u don’t win enough.” Alpha-tastic.

Between this and the tizzy over Ryan Tannehill’s wife at the NFL draft, checking out quarterbacks’ hot girlfriends at football games/events is apparently a “thing” now. As if these guys needed more pressure. Exit question: Which aspiring model/actress/beauty queen will be accompanying Johnny Manziel to the BCS Championship prom next year?


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The media has predictably taken it upon themselves to act like this is something to be concerned about. According to the sane non-PC masses, it’s not.

BTW, she is really fine.

Reggie1971 on January 9, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Well, that’s because they’re actually proud to be women, and not trying to be men….like some of these things we have running around Kalifornia.

Fighton03 on January 8, 2013 at 11:35 PM

You know, that is a big part of it. I’ve lived all over the country and Southerners in general just seem to be better groomed. Ironic considering the stereotype of Southerners outside of the South is that of a bunch of toothless hillbillies with no shoes.

NoLeftTurn on January 9, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Jan Vesely was way ahead of this kid

das411 on January 9, 2013 at 1:49 AM

So ESPN analysts find RGIII’s girlfriend too white but A.J. McCarron’s girlfriend just right?

DANEgerus on January 9, 2013 at 1:54 AM

I think some of you folks need to get out of the country more ;)

DarkCurrent on January 9, 2013 at 4:10 AM

She is nothing special. A dime a dozen in the pageant world.

The Aggies rolled the Tide. We should be #1.

txag92 on January 9, 2013 at 4:31 AM

She is nothing special. A dime a dozen in the pageant world.

The Aggies rolled the Tide. We should be #1.

txag92 on January 9, 2013 at 4:31 AM

 
Welcome to the SEC.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 5:36 AM

Unless she shows up in Maxim magazine, she is just another pretty face in the crowd.

pilamaye on January 9, 2013 at 5:43 AM

Just more media BS. First they hyped this boring slaughter as another “game of the century”. The turning point of the game was the opening kickoff.

Then Musburger and Herbstreit showed their regional bias by questioning early referee calls against Notre Dame.

Finally Musburger (which he has a perfect right to do)transformed an ordinary-looking, slightly long-faced (somewhat Middle Eastern looking)campus sweetheart type into a raving beauty. Here he is guilty of nothing more than exaggeration.

MaiDee on January 9, 2013 at 5:44 AM

Question: Has it occurred to anyone that this whole thing may have possibly been rigged to give this lady some publicity? That stadium is pretty darned big and with it being as packed as it was the night of the game, how did the cameraman shooting the crowd happen to come upon her at just the right moment, out of that huge sea of faces?

Something just doesn’t ring true here.

pilamaye on January 9, 2013 at 5:46 AM

Nothing wrong with it at all.

Just you can’t say something clean cut like that anymore without getting into trouble, especially if you are white.

Can’t say much without someone jumping on your case.

Now if you are a black rapper for example… why…the sky is the limit!

Go foul mouth yourself silly!!!

Sherman1864 on January 9, 2013 at 6:00 AM

Question: Has it occurred to anyone that this whole thing may have possibly been rigged to give this lady some publicity?

pilamaye on January 9, 2013 at 5:46 AM

I suppose someone somewhere may have accidentally started the car with the garage door closed and considered it.

Ronnie on January 9, 2013 at 6:10 AM

Question: Has it occurred to anyone that this whole thing may have possibly been rigged…
 
Something just doesn’t ring true here.
 
pilamaye on January 9, 2013 at 5:46 AM

 
They focus in on AJ’s family pretty often. Other players too if there is any particular reason or standout player (I seem to remember Ingram’s mom pointed out a lot). I don’t follow or watch any other games, but I’m fairly sure I see the quarterbacks’ families for both sides pointed out in almost every game.
 
Plus the players’ families have their own gate, and those folks probably aren’t going to be lost in the nosebleed section and extremely hard to find.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 6:15 AM

It’s just the thought police controlling who may say what.

This near 80 year old also “knows” she’s attractive and wouldn’t sell his soul to please the thought police. It’s the simple truth , which the left loathes.

I suggest that what we have is age discrimination–that age somehow prohibits one from speaking the simple truth. There was nothing obscene about the comment–mere truth.

Maybe it’s those ugly hags complaining and controlling men again?

Don L on January 9, 2013 at 6:19 AM

I don’t believe it was publicity for the lady. More likely eye-candy diversion from a game which had all the charm and drama of a live television feed from a slaughterhouse watching cattle being butchered.

MaiDee on January 9, 2013 at 6:29 AM

Hey, it’s just a dirty old man ogling over an attractive young woman on national TV . . . now what’s wrong with that?

rplat on January 9, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Only thing inappropriate here is the apology.

Axe on January 9, 2013 at 7:15 AM

so musberger said something that VP biden would’ve said without hesitation…..

….and was right!?

ted c on January 9, 2013 at 7:27 AM

I noticed her alright. But what I noticed was her increasingly put-out face during AJs celebration moment with his family. As AJ joyously embraced his father, mother, brother, cousin, half-niece and lunch lady before even glancing at her perfectly coiffed TV-ready visage she actually looked resentful. Then she goes “babe!” to remind him of her existence and then they have the most perfunctory kiss, not HuffPo headline-worthy as she expected.

I hate to throw shade, but that interaction just screamed “beard.” To me. That child damn near forgot his girlfriend even existed at his moment of triumph. AL QB plus Md. Alabama, uh uh, he one of the kids honey. We know our own.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

I know that most men, regardless of what they like, reduce objects of their desire at times. But Brent didn’t just say “what a beaut.” Look, if you primarily interact with and order women only in the registers of their physical beauty and/or you’re likelihood of “getting one”, then you have no problem with Brent congratulating McCArron on the acquisition of valued property. But if you interact with women as humans whose worth extends beyond their physical beauty or lack, than you might say Brent’s comments were dehumanizing and problematic.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM

But if you interact with women as humans whose worth extends beyond their physical beauty or lack, than you might say Brent’s comments were dehumanizing and problematic.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM

The woman is a pageant queen. Let’s not pretend she got the title based on her brain or talent. Frankly, commenting on anybody’s girlfriend on national air is inappropriate. But your faux outrage and use of terms like “dehumanizing” is nothing more than the kind of crap lesbians professors throw out in Women’s Studies class because the students are not attractive, strident in their man-hatred, and full of a victimhood status becuase they are a bunch of losers and parasites looking to find fault in society for their own inadequacies.

Happy Nomad on January 9, 2013 at 8:12 AM

I hate to throw shade, but that interaction just screamed “beard.” To me. That child damn near forgot his girlfriend even existed at his moment of triumph.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

 
Way to tell us all “I’ve never once experienced even one single feeling that comes from a public win of anything bearing even minor local significance, much less (inter)national and televised”.
 
(Not to mention establishing a new school record and the personal/tribal significance that holds at UA.)
 
I’ll let others address your “I see gay people” obsession.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 8:16 AM

…just screamed “beard.” To me.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

 
BTW, Republican war on women.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 8:22 AM

We don’t however find Bill Clinton’s rape of Juanita Broaddrick offensive, nor do we find David Letterman’s retraction of his apology, for fantasizing about the rape of a child, offensive. We leftist pieces of garbage do have our standards.

Back to your regularly scheduled game.

MNHawk on January 9, 2013 at 8:38 AM

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM

As I said, leftists have their standards, the rest of the civilized world has theirs.

MNHawk on January 9, 2013 at 8:39 AM

The young lady was complimented by Musburger’s remarks. Who else matters? I’m guessing that 90+% of ESPN’s audience are men. The people who issued the apology are weasels.

cajunpatriot on January 9, 2013 at 8:42 AM

But she did pick a good school. War Eagle!

Galtian on January 9, 2013 at 9:07 AM

She was just on the Today show and that pr!ck Lauer asked her about Musberger and she said that they were too hard on him and she didn’t think an apology was necessary. Good for her. She’s definitely from the South!

TxAnn56 on January 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

So this is worse than Kathy Griffin going down on Anderson Cooper?

Nutstuyu on January 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

The woman is a pageant queen. Let’s not pretend she got the title based on her brain or talent.

She competed in Ms. America, not Ms. USA. Ms. America includes a talent competition and is very much based upon GPA. Donald Trump’s Miss USA and its ridiculous bikini show contest (along with Miss Teen South -such as- Carolina) has done real damage to the Ms. America brand, which has always emphasized talent and brains alongside beauty. But good to know Donald Trump’s pernicious project is working on people who can’t take the time to google before calling a woman a bimbo.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Ridiculous, this one is.

22044 on January 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Way to tell us all “I’ve never once experienced even one single feeling that comes from a public win of anything bearing even minor local significance, much less (inter)national and televised”.

Firat of all, if you don’t get the humor of that post, well actually that wouldn’t surprise me. You’re a bit slow on the uptake in general. But more to the point, when people have moments of triumph they reach out to/call/celebrate with those who matter most to them. One might wonder why half-cousin Betsy was more important than Ms. Alabama? And yeah, AJ one of the kids, I suspect his Kordell Stewart-park incident isn’t far off (hint, also joking around).

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

So at what age are we supposed to stop being men?

Mark1971 on January 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM

65. When you go back to sucking on teats–Social Security teats that is.

Nutstuyu on January 9, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Yes, she is drop-dead gorgeous, but she loses points for fake boobs.

Mallard T. Drake on January 8, 2013 at 9:09 PM

How do you know? Did Elaine check ‘em out for you in the sauna?

Nutstuyu on January 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

You don’t do humor well.

F-

22044 on January 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM

I know that most men, regardless of what they like, reduce objects of their desire at times. But Brent didn’t just say “what a beaut.” Look, if you primarily interact with and order women only in the registers of their physical beauty and/or you’re likelihood of “getting one”, then you have no problem with Brent congratulating McCArron on the acquisition of valued property. But if you interact with women as humans whose worth extends beyond their physical beauty or lack, than you might say Brent’s comments were dehumanizing and problematic.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:53 AM

If you really want to stop having people dehumanized, stop preaching about a model who voluntarily puts her good looks out there, and tell Sandra Fluke to stop talking about her sex life. It’s more dehumanizing to have to force people to think about that than it is for people to say how pretty Katherine Webb is.

Until you are willing to do that, stop telling people how dehumanizing and problematic it is for people to state the obvious.

milcus on January 9, 2013 at 9:51 AM

No denyin’ she’s gorgeous, but whenever I see an overtly glamorous woman, I’m reminded of the sage advice once offered by a former co-worker whilst we were discussing Hawt Babes: “Yeah, she’s hot, but you just know that somehow, somewhere there’s some guy who’s tired of her sh!t!”

brushman on January 9, 2013 at 9:52 AM

She is nothing special. A dime a dozen in the pageant world.

The Aggies rolled the Tide. We should be #1.

txag92 on January 9, 2013 at 4:31 AM

So the Ags lucked up and got a gift of a generation in a QB who wanted to go to Texas but didn’t get an offer, so he ends up in Sing Sing on the Brazos. For the long-suffering Texas Aggies, they were due a break.

Manziel had a great year, fun to watch and with amazing instincts, but he doesn’t win the Heisman without having that perfect day in Tuscaloosa. He certainly deserved the Heisman. Congratulations to him, and to the Ags for their great season.

But don’t overestimate your Ags. Lightning struck for A&M that day in Tuscaloosa, and the timing was right. Alabama was coming off a huge win at LSU after playing Tennessee in Knoxville and an undefeated Mississippi State in Tuscaloosa.

And remember that the Ags hung on for dear life at the end of the game when they inteercepted a pass in the end zone and then got a huge break a few minutes later when they were the beneficiary of a procedure penalty that was wrongly assessed on the defense. Just be thankful you stole one in Tuscaloosa and leave it at that.

Stephen Garcia of South Carolina had one of those career days in 2010 when the Gamecocks beat the Tide. Tebow had one of those days in 2008 when Florida beat Alabama in the SEC Championship.

I look forward to Bama going to College Station on 9/14. I’m sure Coach Saban does too. Just ask Tim Tebow how such rematches go.

Roll Tide and Hook ‘em Horns!

Anti-Statist on January 9, 2013 at 10:04 AM

If you really want to stop having people dehumanized, stop preaching about a model who voluntarily puts her good looks out there

Here is what happened. Ms. Alabama is dating Mr. Alabama and was well aware that her face would be splashed across the country and the globe. She also knows how jacked up the media is towards women, judging them for their looks in horrible negative ways when they look even a little bit out of line. So she glammed it up to gain control of that discourse. She didn’t put herself out there in order to attract the desires of men, she put herself out there because if its inevitable that someone’s going to talk about your looks, you want it to be done in a positive way.

This does not mean she “deserves” or “was asking for” or “should expect” that male broadcasters are going to reduce her to bauble on AJ McCarron’s arm. It doesn’t mean she should “expect” to be understood purely in relation to her looks, or that we should think about reducing her to a sex object as good because its “natural.” Its natural for men, that don’t mean its a good thing.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM

and tell Sandra Fluke to stop talking about her sex life. It’s more dehumanizing to have to force people to think about that than it is for people to say how pretty Katherine Webb is.

You’re an idiot. Nothing about Sandra Fluke’s testimony before Congress or her advocacy on women’s reproductive health issues “forces” you to think about anything. If you are compulsively thinking about Sandra Fluke’s sex life *that’s on you,* she does not have the ability to open your skull and pour images of her sex life into your brain. Now why did Sandra Fluke’s advocacy cause you to think about her sex life, there’s probably a few reasons.

1. You’re a Rushbot and Rush made that connection and, per your programming, you do what Rush says do.

2. You think that any women who advocates for birth control is sexually promiscuous. And that’s your f*ckery, not Sandra Flukes fault. If you believe women who want access to birth control are promiscuous you have to actively ignore that many women on birth control are having sex with one husband or boyfriend and simply do not want to have a child (or more children). You ignore that many women on the pill are celibate but take it to ameliorate the symptoms of their cycle which include headaches, cramps, nausea, clots and a whole bunch of really unpleasant stuff that men have no concept of and should probably keep quiet. For some women birth control is the only means to keep these monthly symptoms, that;s every. 30. days. (think if you had to deal with that), at bay. And then there are other, more rare examples, where birth control helps to alleviate truly dangerous conditions like cysts which can become cancerous.

To be brief, if you believe that Sandra Fluke advocating that the state subsidize birth control access makes her promiscuous then you are *choosing* to ignore all of the other reasons why birth control improves women’s lives, you are presupposing things you don’t know a thing about. And no one is “forcing” you to do that. Please proceed to have a seat and get your life right.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM

She is nothing special. A dime a dozen in the pageant world.

The Aggies rolled the Tide. We should be #1.

txag92 on January 9, 2013 at 4:31 AM

The Aggies couldn’t beat the Gators at home. Go sit down.

Kissmygrits on January 9, 2013 at 10:15 AM

She’s a beautiful woman, striking even, but I have to agree with an earlier poster…There’s something a bit robotic about her, at least in this video clip. And yes, she could be the nicest, smartest, most kind-hearted beauty queen you could ever hope to meet, but there is definitely something a bit odd in her mannerisms…(again, only judging by this clip) But would I say no to going out with her just based on that? Hell no!

Battlecruiser-operational on January 9, 2013 at 10:24 AM

How do you know? Did Elaine check ‘em out for you in the sauna?

Nutstuyu on January 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Amazing how every Seinfeld episode can be applied in real life.

TxAnn56 on January 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Good God !
The winning Quarterback has a pretty girlfriend and you are reduced to psycobabble.

Any comment on Griffen “servicing” Cooper on NewYears Eve ?

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Amazing how every Seinfeld episode can be applied in real life.

TxAnn56 on January 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

That was the entire point of the show; and what made it so popular.
Our real foibles are much funnier than any that can be made up.

Witness libfreeordie.

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Agreed. What happend to just life? Good looking guy and good looking girl. Why does it need to be a 3 hour lecture at Yale about this subject?

Oil Can on January 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM

That was the entire point of the show; and what made it so popular.
Our real foibles are much funnier than any that can be made up.

Witness libfreeordie.

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Precisely. While other shows die & are soon forgotten, I can still watch Seinfeld reruns and keep laughing.

The one where Kramer tries to shut down the mail delivery service looks prophetic now.

22044 on January 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Agreed. What happend to just life? Good looking guy and good looking girl. Why does it need to be a 3 hour lecture at Yale about this subject?Oil Can on January 9, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Libfree never played QB. Or, if it did, it lost.

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 10:58 AM

The one where Kramer tries to shut down the mail delivery service looks prophetic now.

22044 on January 9, 2013 at 10:57 AM

As does Elaine’s scrutiny for the use of BC.

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 11:00 AM

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM

That rant sums up liberals in a nutsell:

1. Name-calling to start it off because you cant win an argument on the merits.
2. Assuming a Republican is not smart enough to come up with an argument unless Rush said something.
3. Babbling about something that is not even being discussed.

milcus on January 9, 2013 at 11:03 AM

ESPN is all apologetic, but CNN is celebrating the imitation of oral sex on New Year’s eve? The socialists are deeply confused.

Oh, wait, I get it. In this case, the perp is a straight white male, right?

dogsoldier on January 9, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Ms. America … is very much based upon GPA.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 9:27 AM

ROFLMAO! Hahahahahahahaha!

GWB on January 9, 2013 at 11:39 AM

She thought it was funny, she wasn’t insulted, and like we say down yeah, ifn momma happy, everbody happy.

Knott Buyinit on January 9, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I noticed her alright. But what I noticed was her increasingly put-out face during AJs celebration moment with his family. As AJ joyously embraced his father, mother, brother, cousin, half-niece and lunch lady before even glancing at her perfectly coiffed TV-ready visage she actually looked resentful. Then she goes “babe!” to remind him of her existence and then they have the most perfunctory kiss, not HuffPo headline-worthy as she expected.
 
I hate to throw shade, but that interaction just screamed “beard.” To me. That child damn near forgot his girlfriend even existed at his moment of triumph. AL QB plus Md. Alabama, uh uh, he one of the kids honey. We know our own.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

 
Firat of all, if you don’t get the humor of that post, well actually that wouldn’t surprise me. You’re a bit slow on the uptake in general.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

 
Nice on the bolded part. Way to win a debate. Thanks for holding off on “idiot”, though.
 
Other than the lunch lady bit (classy, btw), what were you trying to be humorous about? You were making an pointedly insulting post regarding her “increasingly put-out face”/”her perfectly coiffed TV-ready visage” and then a gay point. You weren’t making comedy.
 
If you were attempting comedy, feel free to point it out. You’re caught, embarrassed, and now you’re trying to misdirect.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 11:53 AM

When a person becomes a public figure, in this case a women who publicly seeks a position that relies on beauty and “exposure”, that is what she is, just a person to point to and make whatever comments one wants to make (as long as it’s not defamation).

She sought that position of being Miss Alabama, she knows she is going to be in the spotlight, too late for people to try to pick and choose when she can be noticed, she gave up that right as soon as she entered the competition to be “noticed” and talked about.

She is an entertainer, no difference than an actress, or any other publicity seeking person…would the same be demanded of him if he talked about and made fun of Trump’s hair?

right2bright on January 9, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Oh please… Until I watched this I thought he had said something crude…

RalphyBoy on January 9, 2013 at 12:07 PM

She was just on the Today show and that pr!ck Lauer asked her about Musberger and she said that they were too hard on him and she didn’t think an apology was necessary. Good for her. She’s definitely from the South!

TxAnn56 on January 9, 2013 at 9:18 AM

And she was correct, she is just an entertainer whose “success” is dependent on who talks about her, and for how long.

You don’t enter those contests not to be noticed, and hope for national publicity. He gave her something she has been trying to achieve her whole life…notoriety.

right2bright on January 9, 2013 at 12:09 PM

BTW, it’s hard to believe you as an adult (and a college professor no less) would feel compelled to do that to one of the few people who engages you honestly, thoughtfully, and will readily stand up and say “stop” when people carry things against you too far.
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/02/peter-king-may-be-leaving-the-gop-because-of-failure-to-vote-on-sandy-aid-bill-or-something/comment-page-3/#comment-6612448
 
And one of the few (only?) people who named you directly in hopes and prayers that you and your family were safe in the storm:
 
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/10/30/cell-phone-service-down-in-manhattan/comment-page-1/#comment-2168714
 
And one of the few people who posted their disagreement with the unsolicited dumping of your personal info:
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/07/13/fbi-no-racial-bias-in-trayvon-martin-shooting/comment-page-3/#comment-6020461
 

You’re a bit slow on the uptake in general.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 9:31 AM

 
Amazing.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Only thing inappropriate here is the apology.

Axe on January 9, 2013 at 7:15 AM

Agree 100%. I definitely think the old geezer ogles young woman gave it an additional creep dimension for some people, but that’s just their own prejudice. And if it had been a lithesome 25-year-old woman who said it, “our betters” would be saying how progressive that was (while most of the guys would just think that’s really hot).

bobs1196 on January 9, 2013 at 12:32 PM

I find it amusing that libfreeordie thinks that males enjoying the beauty and attractiveness of Katherine Webb “dehumanizes” her when actually it is a celebration of what makes us human men and women.

I am also not surprised to read from rogerb (January 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM), that libfreeordie is a college professor when one considers the kind of absolute crap that comes out of academia today. Libfreeordie probably thinks he’s a feminist when he’s really just a mental castration and possibly a physical one as well.

woodNfish on January 9, 2013 at 12:38 PM

“America”: A place where something always offends someone.

This country needs to grow a pair.

NoPain on January 9, 2013 at 12:40 PM

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

He/she isn’t a college professor, that has been “discovered” awhile back…

right2bright on January 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM

She is gorgeous but in a ‘beauty pageant’ sort of way—perfect hair and lots of makeup.

GreenBlade on January 9, 2013 at 12:42 PM

I find it amusing that libfreeordie thinks that males enjoying the beauty and attractiveness of Katherine Webb “dehumanizes” her when actually it is a celebration of what makes us human men and women.

woodNfish on January 9, 2013 at 12:38 PM

And of course the winner of a beauty pageant, parading around in a bathing suit, begging to be noticed and voted for doesn’t “dehumanize” her, but a few comments about her beauty does…a title she worked hard for, being beautiful…but don’t mention it…it boggles the mind how stupid liberals are.

right2bright on January 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM

…and at least Brent didn’t say he had a “tingle through my leg.”

GreenBlade on January 9, 2013 at 12:52 PM

He/she isn’t a college professor, that has been “discovered” awhile back…

right2bright on January 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM

As my grandmother would say “you a lie.” But, very clever, you’re trying to inspire me to “prove” my identity so people can start posting my personal information again without recourse. Not gonna work.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Amazing.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Aw, rogerb, your post really does prove that the opposite of love isn’t hate, its indifference. I should have picked up on the cues of your copy/paste stalk act as signs of your profound interest in/obsession with me, but I didn’t know you truly cared. But really, the pearl clutching is sort of a lot to handle this early into 2013. Nor is it warranted. While you did post “too far” when someone encouraged me to die, your act of altruism merely extends to the realm of a digital debate forum, and thus the stakes are quite low.

But more to the point, I challenge the notion that you are someone who engages me. You don’t actually. You needle me with copy and paste gags, sometimes more effectively than not, but that isn’t “engagement.” That’s following me around, that’s reading all of my posts, but that’s not “engagement.” Engagement would be responding to the substance of my claims in ways that illustrates you understand the argument and can defeat it with your own. You don’t do that and therefore you are not one of the few who “engage me.”

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

I find it amusing that libfreeordie thinks that males enjoying the beauty and attractiveness of Katherine Webb “dehumanizes” her when actually it is a celebration of what makes us human men and women.

Not what I said, try again.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Kirsten Powers is strongly defending Brent right now on Megyn Kelly’s show. Monica Crowley is, too, but that’s completely expected! :)

Anti-Control on January 9, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Aw, rogerb, your post really does prove that the opposite of love isn’t hate, its indifference. I should have picked up on the cues of your copy/paste stalk act as signs of your profound interest in/obsession with me, but I didn’t know you truly cared. But really, the pearl clutching is sort of a lot to handle this early into 2013. Nor is it warranted. While you did post “too far” when someone encouraged me to die, your act of altruism merely extends to the realm of a digital debate forum, and thus the stakes are quite low.

But more to the point, I challenge the notion that you are someone who engages me. You don’t actually. You needle me with copy and paste gags, sometimes more effectively than not, but that isn’t “engagement.” That’s following me around, that’s reading all of my posts, but that’s not “engagement.” Engagement would be responding to the substance of my claims in ways that illustrates you understand the argument and can defeat it with your own. You don’t do that and therefore you are not one of the few who “engage me.”

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

You don’t find yourself the least bit pompous or melodramatic, do you? LOL

Anti-Control on January 9, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Aw come on folks.
The Musberger girl talk is for the consumption of NE liberals.
The real issue is that the ‘Bama QB is dating n Auburn Grad.
That there is the story.

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Musburger has always been a legend in his own mind……

ultracon on January 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM

This would never have come up had he dated Janet Napolitano or Elena Kagan.

Colony14 on January 9, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Aw, rogerb, your post really does prove that the opposite of love isn’t hate, its indifference. I should have picked up on the cues of your copy/paste stalk act as signs of your profound interest in/obsession with me,

 
Wow. You truly have never understood why it gets posted, have you?
 
It has nothing to do with you. It’s only done to point out general progressive hypocrisy. You, sesqui, urban elitist, and whoever else comes up first in the searches is what gets posted. You’re all interchangeable.
 
You really thought it was something special you achieved? Some unusual insight specific to you and you alone?
 
Aww. That’s sweet. Sad and pathetic and amusing in a nope-never-won-anything-publicly sort of way, but still kind of sweet.
 

But more to the point, I challenge the notion that you are someone who engages me. You don’t actually… Engagement would be responding to the substance of my claims in ways that illustrates you understand the argument and can defeat it with your own. You don’t do that and therefore you are not one of the few who “engage me.”
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

 
I also would’ve thought you were bright enough to realize that anytime this was posted:
 

Why do you let so many threads die after you present your data and/or open ended argument?
 
rogerb on June 14, 2012 at 11:37 PM

 

Which threads are those?
 
libfreeordie on June 14, 2012 at 11:44 PM

 
It was making fun of you fleeing my engagement.
 
Every time it appeared it’s because you ran away from a question I asked.
 
Here are some, btw:
 
http://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=site%3Ahotair.com+libfreeordie%22which+threads+are+those%22
 
All of them your decision to flee.
 
All of them your decision to not engage me.
 

Engagement would be responding to the substance of my claims in ways that illustrates you understand the argument and can defeat it with your own.

 
Nicely done, btw.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 1:54 PM

PS-
 

you seem content to cut and paste. Porque?
 
libfreeordie on August 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM

 
you do have a tendency to abandon them once you can’t touch bottom, so too much effort isn’t warranted. FWIW, you’re not the only one.
 
rogerb on August 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM

 
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/08/03/july-jobs-report-163k-jobs-added-8-3-jobless-rate/comment-page-3/#comment-6095887
 
Funny why I’d make that comment if you saw a debate through to the end.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 1:59 PM

Yawn.
The fact is – she really is a babe – kudos to old man Brent (I’m not dead yet) for noticing.

The real issue is that the ‘Bama QB is dating an Auburn Grad.
That there is the story.

Jabberwock on January 9, 2013 at 1:45 PM

And I have to agree with Jabberwock.

Face it – the game was a fairly boring blowout (even though I enjoy seeing ND get their butts kicked), so they were looking for anything to keep the audience interested.

dentarthurdent on January 9, 2013 at 2:00 PM

One more interesting thing:
 

I hate to throw shade, but that interaction just screamed “beard.” To me. That child damn near forgot his girlfriend even existed at his moment of triumph. AL QB plus Md. Alabama, uh uh, he one of the kids honey. We know our own.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

 
libfreeordie, let’s assume you’re right. Yes, I know, I know, but play along anyway. Pretend it happens. Just for fun.
 

I hate to throw shade, but that interaction just screamed “beard.” To me.

 
Those are two consenting adults enjoying a private sexual relationship of their choice.
 
You’re not a “beard”, obviously. With that in mind, I suspect you’d be full of all-caps, anger, and righteous indignation if a heterosexual were to post about some unknown good-looking guy and how they didn’t really want “to throw shade”, but, well
 

“something about that interaction just screamed “f_g” to me”

 
or
 

“something about that interaction just screamed “q_eer” to me”

 
Using libfreeordie’s logic, it’s easy to pick out homosexuals. I mean, look at how they _______.
 
(The same homosexuals who I believe should enjoy healthy, self-aware, fulfilling, and satisfying adult relationships, free of judgement and biases, etc.)
 
Just like it’s easy to pick out “beards”, right libfreeordie?
 

I hate to throw shade, but that interaction just screamed “beard.” To me.

 
You’re fine with the blatant negative stereotyping you set regarding a private and consensual sexual relationship, right?

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

This is why you flee threads, btw.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Confirmed – lfod hates gay people.
He hates himself.
I guess the latter point is obvious.

22044 on January 9, 2013 at 2:22 PM

How did this women not win the Miss USA competition? Compare her to the winner, Olivia Culpo

Oil Can on January 9, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Yes, she is drop-dead gorgeous, but she loses points for fake boobs.

Mallard T. Drake on January 8, 2013 at 9:09 PM

How do you know? Did Elaine check ‘em out for you in the sauna?

Nutstuyu on January 9, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Amazing how every Seinfeld episode can be applied in real life.

TxAnn56 on January 9, 2013 at 10:25 AM

They’re real, and they’re spectacular….

viking01 on January 9, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I hate to throw shade, but that interaction just screamed “beard.” To me.

You’re fine with the blatant negative stereotyping you set regarding a private and consensual sexual relationship, right?

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I’m much less concerned with the casual comments people make on the internet, provided they don’t involve any material damage to a person’s life or reputation, than I am with parts of social structure which oppression vulnerable populations in a variety of material ways. Me calling her a beard is certainly rude and unkind, as would be calling someone a “f@g.” Since when does progressive mean touchy feely we all love each other crap. Its about a vision for the state’s interaction with capital and the individual citizen.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 5:26 PM

As my grandmother would say “you a lie.” But, very clever, you’re trying to inspire me to “prove” my identity so people can start posting my personal information again without recourse. Not gonna work.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM

No, I could care less about you “personal” information, just making a factual statement. I don’t care much about anyone’s “personal information”, since, as shown by you, it’s probably not factual.

I just like to set the record straight, if someone claims something, they need to prove it…you, the opposite happened, it was shown you are not a professor, perhaps you confuse the word with profess…

It has been shown several times you are not a “professor”, I believe it’s a student of about 24 years old, or a drop out of 24 I can’t remember which.

But good try…

right2bright on January 9, 2013 at 6:19 PM

…But, very clever, you’re trying to inspire me to “prove” my identity…
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM

 
Before I forget, good job on not letting some slow-on-the-uptake idiot non-college professor conservative trick you into repeatedly posting substantial bits of your own personal information against your will.
 
Keep up the good work, professor.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Well, I’m totally surprised, but I actually agree more with libfreeordie on this than the rest of you. Of course men (and all of us) notice a beautiful woman. Of course the networks are going to point out persons of interest during a ball game, especially if they’re attractive. But Brent’s drooling was in appropriate and annoying. Furthermore, there are many female football fans (no way is the audience 90% male), but even if it 90% male, would that justify obnoxious behavior? Uh, no. We were watching to enjoy a sports competition. Furthermore, it’s a double standard. There are some very attractive male athletes, but we don’t have Pam Oliver drooling over them to the audience, now do we? And if a woman is a beauty pageant contestant, she does not give up her right to be treated with civility and dignity. Are you kidding me? What about models or actresses? Or attractive women in any profession? It’s OK to to drool publicly over them because they put themselves out there? I don’t think so. Try this thought process. If Brent’s comments would have irritated you had the subject been your daughter, then they were inappropriate.

NbyNW on January 10, 2013 at 12:32 AM

You’re fine with the blatant negative stereotyping you set regarding a private and consensual sexual relationship, right?
 
rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I’m much less concerned with the casual comments people make on the internet, provided they don’t involve any material damage to a person’s life or reputation, than I am with parts of social structure which oppression vulnerable populations in a variety of material ways.

 
You’re suggesting discriminatory comments on the internet don’t hurt anything? The casual acceptance of damaging words in our language doesn’t saturate society and make a particular race/sexual orientation slightly less human? Say, have you met this guy?
 

Homosexuality still remains a very small practiced perversion within America. One need only go to any high school to see just how bad it is still viewed.

Yup, lets make social policy on the insults of teenagers. Wait a minute, maybe what’s so jacked up about American politics is that we already do just that.
 
libfreeordie on February 13, 2012 at 4:51 PM

 
Y’all should talk if you haven’t met him yet. Nice fellow somedays. Sort of full of himself, but I think he’s still a minor under Obamacare so you have to cut him some slack. You remember how it is knowing everything when you’re young.
 

Me calling her a beard is certainly rude and unkind, as would be calling someone a “f@g.” Since when does progressive mean touchy feely we all love each other crap.

 
Oh, sorry. I must’ve had you mistaken for this guy:
 

And why was Rush Limbaugh fired from ESPN again?
 
JellyToast on December 14, 2012 at 7:45 AM

Because he suggested that black men lacked the intellectual acumen to fulfill the role of quarterback via Donovan McNabb. Rob Parker, by contrast, just called RG III massive nerd and suggested that means he was “cornball.” These thiings feel different.
 
libfreeordie on December 14, 2012 at 7:47 AM

 
You really should meet him. I bet you’d get along swell.
 
(Not even a month old. Extra points for your use of “feel” in both statements, btw.)
 

Since when does progressive mean touchy feely we all love each other crap. Its about a vision for the state’s interaction with capital and the individual citizen.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 5:26 PM

 
State interaction and individual citizens like this?
 

Its hilarious to see the people who burned Dixie Chicks CDs in effigy or collected them in a huge pile and crushed them under a steam roller acting as if Thomas is some kind of media victim. Puhleeze.
 
libfreeordie on January 26, 2012 at 7:33 AM

 
I guess you two spell your name so similarly that it’s easy to get you mixed up. Seriously, though, you two should talk. He has no moral compass to speak of, and he contradicts himself and his current position in nearly every single thread, but I think you’d like him.

rogerb on January 10, 2013 at 6:30 AM

He/she isn’t a college professor, that has been “discovered” awhile back…
 
right2bright on January 9, 2013 at 12:41 PM

As my grandmother would say “you a lie.”
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM

 

from dissertation to book it tends to take 6 years due to the heavy teaching/committeeloads assistant professors have. I’m in a unique situation…
 
libfreeordie on June 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

 
And hopefully you’ve noticed, but I use “professor” jokingly whenever you post exceptionally stupid things.
 
It’s a shame to have to tell an assistant-professor that, but there’s obviously an enormous unique-snowflake ego barrier to overcome.

rogerb on January 10, 2013 at 6:53 AM

BTW
 

That child damn near forgot his girlfriend even existed at his moment of triumph.
 
libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

 
Way to tell us all “I’ve never once experienced even one single feeling that comes from a public win of anything bearing even minor local significance, much less (inter)national and televised”.
 
rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 8:16 AM

 

Cross-cultural data show that prehomosexual boys are more attracted to solitary sports such as swimming, cycling and tennis than they are to rougher contact sports such as football and soccer;

Yup! I was woeful at baseball and had no interest in football, but was an excellent gymnast (yes you are on a team, but its not nearly the same) and swam through the YMCA fish categories.
 
libfreeordie on July 6, 2012 at 8:46 PM

 
Nailed that one, didn’t I?
 
Unique little snowflake.

rogerb on January 10, 2013 at 7:29 AM

This is why you flee threads, btw.

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM

rogerb on January 10, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I don’t flee threads, I have a job.

libfreeordie on January 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Engagement would be responding to the substance of my claims in ways that illustrates you understand the argument and can defeat it with your own.

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 1:25 PM

 
Dead thread, LFOD?
 
Well defended. Sorry, abandoned.

rogerb on January 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

You’re fine with the blatant negative stereotyping you set regarding a private and consensual sexual relationship, right?

rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 2:17 PM
 

I’m much less concerned with the casual comments people make on the internet, provided they don’t involve any material damage to a person’s life or reputation, than I am with parts of social structure which oppression vulnerable populations in a variety of material ways.

 
You’re suggesting discriminatory comments on the internet don’t hurt anything? The casual acceptance of damaging words in our language doesn’t saturate society and make a particular race/sexual orientation slightly less human?
 
rogerb on January 10, 2013 at 6:30 AM

 
And there it will sit, forever unanswered.
 

I don’t flee threads, I have a job.
 
libfreeordie on January 10, 2013 at 11:50 AM

 
Don’t overwork yourself, professor.

rogerb on January 11, 2013 at 5:28 AM

libfreeordie on January 9, 2013 at 7:39 AM

 

Way to tell us all “I’ve never once experienced even one single feeling that comes from a public win of anything bearing even minor local significance, much less (inter)national and televised”.
 
rogerb on January 9, 2013 at 8:16 AM

 
I’m guessing there are years and years of rich and deeply personal feelings accompanying repeated public losses, though.
 
We can just add this one to the stack, eh, professor?

rogerb on January 11, 2013 at 5:37 AM

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