Video: “I am not your subject”

posted at 1:21 pm on January 7, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Gun owners have begun speaking out on behalf of their constitutional rights — directly, in some cases, to those who would infringe upon them.  Joshua Boston wrote a letter to Senator Dianne Feinstein, declaring that “I am not your subject,” which has drawn plenty of attention in the post-Newtown political arena.  Boston appeared on Fox and Friends this morning not just to talk about the letter, but to rebut Feinstein’s response to it:


 

“I am not your subject,” Boston wrote.

“I am the man who keeps you free. I am not your servant. I am the person whom you serve. I am not your peasant. I am the flesh and blood of America. I am the man who fought for my country. I am the man who learned. I am an American. You will not tell me that I must register my semi-automatic AR-15 because of the actions of some evil man.”

Boston explained that he believes once the government takes away assault weapons, it will be a “slippery slope” toward being able to restrict more and more types of firearms.

“Our firearms are important to us and they’re something that we have to have in order to keep what we have as a country going. And this starts us onto a slippery slope. They take (assault weapons) away, next they come for bolt-action guns. And there’s really no reason to register other than they confiscate at a later date in time,” said Boston.

Feinstein assured Boston that her bill would have exceptions for hunting weapons.  The former Marine told Fox’s Steve Doocy that Feinstein doesn’t understand the meaning of the 2nd Amendment:

“This idea that the rights of existing gun owners is strictly limited to hunting and sporting purposes is just absurd and has no basis in the Bill of Rights. It’s not what it was for,” said Boston, who argued that throughout history there have been examples of governments confiscating citizens’ guns.

“It’s something we’ve seen happen time and time again in history. With Stalin, it happened in Cambodia and of course, the Third Reich. No one saw that coming until it was too late,” he said.

One key reason for the 2nd Amendment is the natural right to self-defense.  Ironically, Feinstein took full advantage of that right when she needed to do so.  She armed herself in response to threats in 1995, but seems to have an issue with other Americans making that same choice.

Nor is she the only hypocrite on this stage.  John Fund discovered that the newspaper that found it necessary to endanger the entire community by publishing a map of handgun permit holders ended up getting armed guards to protect themselves after receiving heavy criticism for their decision:

Take the Journal News executives who decided to publish the gun map. The newspaper was so inundated with complaints that shortly after Christmas it took extra security precautions and hired security guards — who were armed — to patrol its Rockland County headquarters. The executives reported no incidents of any kind at the building, but they turned over at least two e-mails they found troubling. The local police said they didn’t find the e-mails threatening and concluded that they “did not constitute an offense.” The Journal News chose not to share with its readers the information that it had hired armed security guards. That revelation came from a competing newspaper, the Rockland County Times, which concluded that the Journal News conducts itself according to the double standard: “Guns are good for the goose but not for the gander.”

Indeed.

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if i were interested in what an alex jones listener, ron paul voter, 9/11 truther miscreant thinks of gun rights, or anything else, i could just go directly to prisonplanet.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Like you don’t live there already.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Muhlbauer: Ban, seize semi-auto weapons
The Democratic legislator hopes gun owners will surrender the weapons
http://carrollspaper.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=14934&TM=35600.75

State Rep. Dan Muhlbauer, D-Manilla, says Iowa lawmakers should ban semi-automatic guns and “start taking them” from owners who refuse to surrender any illegal firearms through a buy-back program.

Colbyjack on January 7, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Like you don’t live there already.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM

why so gloomy all the time?

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Or, perhaps you should act more like an American man.

kingsjester on January 7, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Hell…ANY kind of a man! Rather than the limp-wristed, craven, hypocritical coward that he presents.

Solaratov on January 7, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Like you don’t live there already.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 5:31 PM

why so gloomy all the time?

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Having to put up with fools like you depresses me. When it comes to things like homosexuality or porn on television you’re all, well don’t be gay or turn the channel, when it come to my constitutional rights you’re all, so surrender already.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Blessings, ALT… lost my Dad a while back. It seems to sting most at the holidays, but it does get easier in time…

PointnClick on January 7, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Congress authorised the First Barbary War on 6 February 1802. It authorised the Second Barbary War on 10 May 1815.

A formal declaration of war is NOT REQUIRED. Again, see the minutes from the Constitutional Convention on 17 August 1789.

Thanks for playing.

Resist We Much on January 7, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Congress authorized the war in 1802? Jefferson was acting for almost a year prior to that. Congress didn’t need to declare war once hostilities were initiated by the aggressors; the president was acting in his authority to responding to attacks. No authorization from Congress, no declaration was needed for acting in defense. “Jefferson insisted that he was ‘unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense.’”

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Lew!!!

Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 5:53 PM

LOL!

kingsjester on January 7, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Why? Don’t you advocate that government follow the Constitution? If not, my mistake.

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Why do you worry so much about people adhering to a Constitution in which you – as an anarcho/capitalist and America-hater – do not believe?
You and cowards like you would flush the Constitution in a flash for the sake of convenience.

You’re an idiot.

Solaratov on January 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM

I’m really not concerned about ammo shortages… if Feinstein gets her way, there will be lots of ammo laying around waiting to be picked up… particularly .223, .40, and 9mm…


Let’s Advance The Discussion

PointnClick on January 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Why? Don’t you advocate that government follow the Constitution? If not, my mistake.

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Why do you worry so much about people adhering to a Constitution in which you – as an anarcho/capitalist and America-hater – do not believe?
You and cowards like you would flush the Constitution in a flash for the sake of convenience.

You’re an idiot.

Solaratov on January 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM

The problem with trying to have a rational discussion with a imbecile is it’s just like trying to wash your hand with shit, it doesn’t solve the problem and the stupid just gets spread all over everything.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 6:01 PM

PointnClick on January 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM

that was pretty good

tom daschle concerned on January 7, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 4:15 PM
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You’re an idiot.

Solaratov on January 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM

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The problem with trying to have a rational discussion with a imbecile is it’s just like trying to wash your hand with shit, it doesn’t solve the problem and the stupid just gets spread all over everything.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 6:01 PM

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listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Let’s Advance The Discussion

PointnClick on January 7, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Pretty good article, while I don’t share his optimism, it would indeed have been priceless to see to look on that b.itc.es face when he got through with her…

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 6:18 PM

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM

There’s the cerebral exercises on this issue…
and then there’s this real and current world, and the pragmatic solutions required.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Solaratov on January 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM

The problem with trying to have a rational discussion with a imbecile is it’s just like trying to wash your hand with shit, it doesn’t solve the problem and the stupid just gets spread all over everything.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Which begs the question..ahh…never mind.
You two just continue your discussion.
You’re not hurting anyone.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:22 PM

That’s it… I’m getting my weapons now.

Houston has a gun show Jan 19-20.
http://www.gunshowmonster.com/

Theworldisnotenough on January 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Timin203 on January 7, 2013 at 3:46 PM
History obviously isn’t one of your stronger subjects. From the perspective of history we learn that tyrants are never content to grab and hold a small fiefdom. The endless wars against tyranny are the eternal struggle of Free People, because it is the only thing that keeps them a Free People.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Like I said, selfish, self-centered cowards. Libertarians like Paul and Timin would not have fought the Nazis or opposed the spread of communism. They would sit on their asses with a greatly-reduced border-guarding military, and wait until all was lost.
Hell, such ignoramuses watched islamists kill 3000 americans ON US SOIL and STILL don’t want to do anything about it. And most of them don’t even blieve those attacks were real.
It’s one of their biggest blind spots, among MANY.
They will support and defend NOTHING and view any form of governmental organization as too much. It’s why there’s not a whit of difference between them and anarchists – result’s the same, collapse of civilization and the death of liberty.

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Congress authorized the war in 1802? Jefferson was acting for almost a year prior to that. Congress didn’t need to declare war once hostilities were initiated by the aggressors; the president was acting in his authority to responding to attacks. No authorization from Congress, no declaration was needed for acting in defense. “Jefferson insisted that he was ‘unauthorized by the Constitution, without the sanction of Congress, to go beyond the line of defense.’”

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 5:52 PM

He had the authority under the COTUS to response to sudden attacks, ie, DEFENCIVELY. He obtained prior authorisation in 1802 before acting offencively against the pirates:

An Act for the Protection of the Commerce and Seamen of the United States, Against the Tripolitan Cruisers.

WHEREAS the regency of Tripoli, on the coast of Barbary, has commenced a predatory warfare against the United States:

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress Assembled, that it shall be lawful fully to equip, officer, man, and employ such of the armed vessels of the United States as may be judged requisite by the President of the United States, for protecting effectually the commerce and seamen thereof on the Atlantic ocean, the Mediterranean and adjoining seas.

SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That it shall be lawful for the President of the United States to instruct the commanders of the respective public vessels aforesaid, to subdue, seize and make prize of all vessels, goods and effects, belonging to the Bey of Tripoli, or to his subjects, and to bring or send the same into port, to be proceeded against, and distributed according to law; and also to cause to be done all such other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war will justify, and may, in his opinion, require.

APPROVED, February 6, 1802.

Resist We Much on January 7, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Theworldisnotenough on January 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Get there early…If the show’s here in SoCal are jammed solid – I can’t imagine how jammed Houston will be.

Tim_CA on January 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Pure, unfettered ignorance.

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Pure content-free sniping bullshit.

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 6:28 PM

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM

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There’s the cerebral exercises on this issue…
and then there’s this real and current world, and the pragmatic solutions required.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:19 PM

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I reject the premise that my “cerebral exercise on the issue” is contrary, or in opposition to “this real and current world, and the pragmatic solutions required.”

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Pure, unfettered ignorance.

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 4:07 PM

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Pure content-free sniping bullshit.

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 6:28 PM

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Content? . . . . . Content ? . . . . . CONTENT ? !

We don’t need no steenking “content”!

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 6:34 PM

I reject the premise that my “cerebral exercise on the issue” is contrary, or in opposition to “this real and current world, and the pragmatic solutions required.”

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Sorry…I just find the ‘tyranny’ argument to be largely that…a thought exercise. It rejects even a textual reading of the constitution.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Houston has a gun show Jan 19-20.
http://www.gunshowmonster.com/

Theworldisnotenough on January 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM

I can wear my new Molon Labe t shirt and blend in with the crowd. Of course, low information voters and moochers have no idea what that means.

TxAnn56 on January 7, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I reject the premise that my “cerebral exercise on the issue” is contrary, or in opposition to “this real and current world, and the pragmatic solutions required.”

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Sorry…I just find the ‘tyranny’ argument to be largely that…a thought exercise. It rejects even a textual reading of the constitution.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:34 PM

See Glenn, Ron White really was right, you really can’t fix stupid.

Shall not be infringed.

Posted by doriangrey1 on October 15, 2009

in·fringe // //
v. in·fringed, in·fring·ing, in·fring·es

v. tr.

To transgress or exceed the limits of; violate: infringe a contract; infringe a patent.
Obsolete To defeat; invalidate.

v. intr.
To encroach on someone or something; engage in trespassing: an increased workload that infringed on his personal life.

[Latin īnfringere, to destroy : in-, intensive pref.; see in-2 + frangere, to break; see bhreg- in Indo-European roots.]
in·fring’er n.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The progressive movement has been eroding this amendment since early on in the 20th century. Hiding their actions behind such vile and detestable terms as reasonable regulations and public safety.

The real truth is that the founding fathers left zero wiggle room regarding the regulation of firearms ownership. They made their thoughts on the subject absolutely crystal clear.

Benjamin Franklin: Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” (Nov 11 1755, from the Pennsylvania Assembly’s reply to
the Governor of Pennsylvania.)

Thomas Jefferson: “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither
inclined or determined to commit crimes. Such laws only make things worse for the assaulted and
better for the assassins; they serve to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man
may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (1764 Letter and speech from T.
Jefferson quoting with approval an essay by Cesare Beccari)

John Adams: “Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion in private self
defense.” (A defense of the Constitution of the US)

George Washington: “Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the
people’s liberty teeth (and) keystone… the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable… more than
99% of them [guns] by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very
atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference [crime]. When firearms go, all goes,
we need them every hour.” (Address to 1st session of Congress)

George Mason: “To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them.” (3 Elliot,
Debates at 380)

Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in
almost every country in Europe.” (1787, Pamphlets on the Constitution of the US)

George Washington: “A free people ought to be armed.” (Jan 14 1790, Boston Independent
Chronicle.)

Thomas Jefferson: “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” (T. Jefferson papers,
334, C.J. Boyd, Ed. 1950)

James Madison: “Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of
other countries, whose people are afraid to trust them with arms.” (Federalist Paper #46)

History had to be revised by a progressive controlled educational system for these facts to be so ignored and watered down as to advance the notion the founding fathers found both insane and insulting, reasonable regulation and public safety.

Thomas Jefferson perhaps said it best.

Thomas Jefferson: “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither
inclined or determined to commit crimes. Such laws only make things worse for the assaulted and
better for the assassins; they serve to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man
may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (1764 Letter and speech from T.
Jefferson quoting with approval an essay by Cesare Beccari)

The second amendment is not a States Rights issue, nor does the Federal Government have any constitutional authority to regulate firearms ownership, the constitution makes this indisputably and incontrovertibly clear.

Yet Federal administration after administration and State after State have completely and totally violated the letter of the law as spelled out in no uncertain terms in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.

Furthermore, the FBI has documented and for the most part hidden their results which prove beyond any doubt that populated centers where individual gun ownership and right to carry laws exist have the very lowest assault, murder, and robbery levels in the entire country.

Federal and State gun regulations are not and never has been about providing public safety, they are and always have been about making stripping the constitutional rights away from citizens and increasing the governments control over individuals lives.

Ponder the words of the great and famous statesman Benjamin Franklin, consider where you fall in this great divide, are you on the side of the Founding Fathers of this Great Republic, or have you sided with the Progressive Movement, (and yes that really does mean communists) who are attempting to subvert the US Constitution?

Benjamin Franklin: Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.” (Nov 11 1755, from the Pennsylvania Assembly’s reply to
the Governor of Pennsylvania.)

Choose you this day upon whose side you are on, I pray that the words of Sameul Adams are not spoken of you.
Sameul Adams:“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquillity of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Theworldisnotenough on January 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Get there early…If the show’s here in SoCal are jammed solid – I can’t imagine how jammed Houston will be.

Tim_CA on January 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM


… and bring lots of cash!

A 6920 that one month ago was $ 1,049 was now marked $ 1,999.00

PolAgnostic on January 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Advance the discussion- yea, that was good. :)

wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Having to put up with fools like you depresses me. When it comes to things like homosexuality or porn on television you’re all, well don’t be gay or turn the channel, when it come to my constitutional rights you’re all, so surrender already.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 5:47 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Great post Amigo!

Tim_CA on January 7, 2013 at 6:49 PM

… and bring lots of cash!

A 6920 that one month ago was $ 1,049 was now marked $ 1,999.00

PolAgnostic on January 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Amen.

Clips and bulk ammo in particular go fast….and good luck finding anything that pol’s are trying to term “assault weapons”…they’re all back-ordered.

Tim_CA on January 7, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Like I said, selfish, self-centered cowards. Libertarians like Paul and Timin would not have fought the Nazis or opposed the spread of communism. They would sit on their asses with a greatly-reduced border-guarding military, and wait until all was lost.
Hell, such ignoramuses watched islamists kill 3000 americans ON US SOIL and STILL don’t want to do anything about it. And most of them don’t even blieve those attacks were real.
It’s one of their biggest blind spots, among MANY.
They will support and defend NOTHING and view any form of governmental organization as too much. It’s why there’s not a whit of difference between them and anarchists – result’s the same, collapse of civilization and the death of liberty.

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Aside from the fact that Paul authored and introduced a Bill of Marque and Reprisal immediately following 9/11, authorizing the president to capture and/or kill all those repsonsible, of course.

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Pure content-free sniping bullshit.

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 6:28 PM

An excellent description of your posts.

Dante on January 7, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Having to put up with fools like you depresses me. When it comes to things like homosexuality or porn on television you’re all, well don’t be gay or turn the channel, when it come to my constitutional rights you’re all, so surrender already.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 5:47 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Of course you do, you’re a imbecile, it’s in your nature to harbor irrational illogical fantasies.

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Sesqui, read pointandclicks 5:57pm post..

It’s you to a tee.

wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Sesqui, read pointandclicks 5:57pm post..

It’s you to a tee.

wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 7:11 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAH… Like, hell it probably was her… ;p

SWalker on January 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 6:29 PM

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Sorry…I just find the ‘tyranny’ argument to be largely that…a thought exercise. It rejects even a textual reading of the constitution.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:34 PM

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listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM

ER MAH GERD… FOX NEWS IS RADICAL RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA! EMG! EMG!

Metro on January 7, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Having read this thread, I’m going to keep it in honor of all of the Defenders of Liberty that have posted here.

Kudos to all of Hotair’s Freedom Fighters and Defenders of Liberty!!!

bluefox on January 7, 2013 at 7:15 PM

We are approaching a civil war and his testimony is the warning shot. We are as divided as we were in 1860. Obama wants the war.

No, I am not a chicken little. It is happening.

Jabez01 on January 7, 2013 at 7:16 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

You’re so vapid.

CW on January 7, 2013 at 7:21 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

you should. shitstick

Rio Linda Refugee on January 7, 2013 at 7:25 PM

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listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Question….comment?
You sought out my opinion.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Kudos to all of Hotair’s Freedom Fighters and Defenders of Liberty!!!

bluefox on January 7, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Captain John Parker was a veteran of the French and Indian War when he ordered his troops of the Lexington Militia—not Minutemen, mind you, but the normal regular militia—to muster on Lexington Green. Parker was dying of advanced tuberculosis; he’d be dead within six months. His orders to his men as he faced 700 approaching regulars with less than 70 men are recorded for posterity. “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”

TxAnn56 on January 7, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Why are folks opposed to citizens owning full auto weapons?

Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Tough sh*t. Enjoy the worry.

By the way, how do you think gun owners feel about Leftists who want to grab our guns in the name of non-violence and social hygiene while issuing death threats against us and publicly hoping we die? Kind of giving us a rationale to hold on to them, no? What with all those unstable, impulse-disordered and violent-sounding people out there?

rrpjr on January 7, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Why are folks opposed to citizens owning full auto weapons?
Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM

listens2glenn….over to you.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Why are folks opposed to citizens owning full auto weapons?
Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM

listens2glenn…over to you.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 8:11 PM

TxAnn56 on January 7, 2013 at 7:55 PM

So many Patriots and the bravery and courage they exhibited in securing our Freedoms that it shocks me to see many that are so ungrateful today.
If those that spit on our Country and Constitution had to live under tyranny, they would kiss the ground they now thru words defile. Such disrespect of our Bill of Rights and Country would not be spoken of by Americans that I have seen posted here.

Freedom has always had enemies, which we know however.

bluefox on January 7, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Forgot to say that Joshua Boston is a Patriot. God Bless him for taking a stand for Liberty.

bluefox on January 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM

By the way, how do you think gun owners feel about Leftists who want to grab our guns in the name of non-violence and social hygiene while issuing death threats against us and publicly hoping we die? Kind of giving us a rationale to hold on to them, no?

rrpjr on January 7, 2013 at 7:58 PM

the thought of you living in a constant state of terror, gripped by a mortal fear of roaming, bloodthirsty granolaheads, is infinitely amusing.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM

bluefox on January 7, 2013 at 8:50 PM

you’re among the truest of the true believers. i salute you.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Laugh all you want. Just don’t even try disarming me.

wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Why are folks opposed to citizens owning full auto weapons?

Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 7:57 PM


“Folks”
were not opposed to citizens owning full auto weapons.

J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI was against it and used every means at his disposal to portray them as mowing down law enforcement officers by the score.

Facts were not known to dissuade Mr. Hoover’s pursuit of justice.

A fully automatic weapon is an exciting way to waste a lot of bullets but it is far from effective means of of injuring and/or killing opponents.

Rather than post facts for the trolls to dispute … let’s take the Socratic approach.

How many bullets were fired for every casualty inflicted by a bullet for:

World War I?
World War II?
The Korean War?
The Viet Nam War (this statistic is a doozy)?
The Gulf War?
The Iraq War?

Tangential thought – you could take the same statistic for any major police department prior to 1980, multiply it by 10 and still not be in the right order of magnitude.

Separate tangential thought – when Seal Team Six was founded, the expectation was each member of the team would average 5,000 practice rounds/month with more than 90% of those rounds being fired as “double taps” in semi-automatic mode.

Really tangential thought – many of the top shooters in practical competitions can empty their semi-automatic weapons as fast as most fully automatic weapons … but with a much higher score.

PolAgnostic on January 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM

When I clicked onto this thread there 357 comments,

I think God is trying to tell me something.

davidk on January 7, 2013 at 10:03 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

GOOD!

Solaratov on January 7, 2013 at 10:08 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

LOL.

We’ll believe that when you go marching into South Side Chicago gang territory screaming about how they need to give up THEIR guns.

The game is very obvious to conservatives. You and your fellow liberals are cowards who go after soft targets, i.e. legal gun owners and Christians, while inventing all sorts of reasons not to do the same towards hard ones, i.e. Islam and the Obama gangbanger base.

In short, the only reason you will ever get your hands on conservatives’ guns is if we decide to give them up willingly.

And that’s not going to happen.

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM

you’re among the truest of the true believers. i salute you.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 9:33 PM

So cocky now. I want you to come take mine. You people are fucking with something you don’t even begin to understand. Do you understand what’s going to happen?

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 10:14 PM

you’re among the truest of the true believers. i salute you.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 9:33 PM

So cocky now. I want you to come take mine. You people are f*cking with something you don’t even begin to understand. Do you understand what’s going to happen?

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 10:15 PM

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Roger that. A thousand times over.

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 10:18 PM

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM

As is someone hyperventilating about a “constant state of terror.” You’re the one who confessed fear. And the Left is the one talking about killing people. That was the only point — the hypocrisy. Once more, the tolerance merchants and peace humbugs are throwing around the assassination fantasies. And I’m a former leftist — I know all about the game, which North Dallas Forty so aptly pointed out above.

rrpjr on January 7, 2013 at 10:27 PM

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Anyone who does attempt to take such actions is in violation of the Second Amendment and a traitor. Any law enforcement officer who does it is betraying their oath to defend the Constitution of the United States. That makes them a traitor as well.

Any America-hating coward who supports such actions is also a traitor to this country.

Know it, speak it, live it.

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 10:31 PM

i worry more about the scourge of gun-toting scolds like your kind self.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Said it before, but is appropriate here:

The truth is, liberals want to do away with guns because they live in fear of them. They are thieves and manipulators and petty tyrants at heart. They are cowardly children who stand behind their mommies and daddies while throwing stones at others. They fear the adults who have the courage and strength to stand up for themselves, who make their own way in this world, and who would take up arms for a noble cause.

They fear that their cowardice and weakness will be exposed and that they might be called out face to face to give an account of their selfish, childish, and destructive schemes.

I would love to see an “OPEN CARRY DAY”. Then they would know what we already know:
We are the Americans. We are the life, breath and power of this nation. We could easily survive and even thrive without a single liberal. They would stumble into chaos without us. Without our strength, ingenuity and passion, they would all die in a generation, for they would have no wealth to steal.

Deep down they know this, even as they ridicule us, they know that their existence depends on us and we rely on them none at all. And the hate us for it.

I hope more of us decide to show them these truths and rub their noses in it. Stop buying their goods. Stop enlisting their services. They supply nothing that you can’t easily do without. It is already happening, you know. Not by scheme or conspiracy, but seemingly from an inner sense of justice.

Where is Katie Couric now? Tina Fey? Think they ever wonder what happened to their celebrity? They became symbols of what is wrong with this society, the very evil that the leftists find so enjoyable: ridiculing strong, honest Americans to keep them in their “proper place” to be sucked dry by government decree at the whims of the worthless anklebiters and their power-hungry rabblerousing masters, alike.

I urge you all to stand up. To take a page out of the parasites’ handbook and stand against these blighters. Quietly boycott everything sold, provided, or endorsed by anyone who supports this world’s subculture of leeches and ticks. Don’t do them any favors, either. They voted for this mess, make them live in it. Spend your time with like-minded citizens who love this country and come up with new ways to (figuratively) starve this plague of locusts.

You know its either that or blast off and nuke ‘em from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure…

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Laugh all you want. Just don’t even try disarming me.
wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Don’t get all amped up now.
Those things are dangerous, and you could hurt yourself.
And I’m sure you know who is by far most likely to be harmed by your gun(s), right?

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Sorry…I just find the ‘tyranny’ argument to be largely that…a thought exercise. It rejects even a textual reading of the constitution.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:34 PM

You mean like when Christina confiscates private pensions or Hugo nationalizes foreign investment?? Oops, that’s where you want us to go wasn’t it. Sorry.

WryTrvllr on January 7, 2013 at 10:39 PM

And I’m sure you know who is by far most likely to be harmed by your gun(s), right?

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM

You’re pushing for the end of the Republic as we know it. Do you get that? Do you and the other trolls here smugly trying to push peoples buttons and rattle cages understand what this issue means to true believers in the 2nd Amendment?

I’m not afraid to make clear my intent. I’m willing to die to keep every gun I own.

What are you willing to do?

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 10:45 PM

davidk on January 7, 2013 at 10:03 PM

:-)

bluefox on January 7, 2013 at 10:53 PM

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM

What is Leftism but a playing with fire by people who don’t understand fire is hot.
George Orwell

rrpjr on January 7, 2013 at 11:03 PM

wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Don’t get all amped up now.
Those things are dangerous, and you could hurt yourself.
And I’m sure you know who is by far most likely to be harmed by your gun(s), right?

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM

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What the hang ? … I go away for a couple of hours, and you’ve become the head of “Condescension Unlimited”.

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Madam Feinstein, I am not your groveling peasant nor your boot licking lackey.. But I am one self-righteous bastard here to remind everyone that you serve at my pleasure.

Do not even consider any interpretation of a well-regulated militia other than the one I sanction. Do not touch my rocket launcher. Keep your damn hands off my flame thrower and mustard gas. My militia requires these and other armaments to protect this country from leftists like you.

Your Jewish heritage is probably just a cover for introducing a Third Reich in the US. Go back to California and say that heck away from my guns.

bayam on January 7, 2013 at 11:14 PM

bayam on January 7, 2013 at 11:14 PM

What does that even mean? Your comment is ridiculous. You’re as stupid as the rest of the trolls here. Rocket launcher? Estes rocket launchers? You’re afraid of children too? Wear your chains like a slave while you reduce the debate to the most asinine level.

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Sorry…I just find the ‘tyranny’ argument to be largely that…a thought exercise. It rejects even a textual reading of the constitution.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 6:34 PM

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listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 7:14 PM
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Question….comment?
You sought out my opinion.

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 7:46

PM

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The text of the U.S. Constitution screams anti-tyranny rhetoric, with every line. It’s 100% about LIMITING GOVERNMENT. Period.

A textual reading of The Constitution can never be separated from an argument against tyranny.

The fact that you would believe it is not related to tyranny, is troubling on it’s own.

The U.S. Constitution is the second most anti-tyranny document on planet earth (#1 would be the Holy Bible).

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:26 PM

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Inspiring comments, very well stated.

BruthaMan on January 7, 2013 at 11:30 PM

You people are f*cking with something you don’t even begin to understand. Do you understand what’s going to happen?

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 10:15 PM

you will have lost another battle is what’s gonna happen, lad.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

What does that even mean? Your comment is ridiculous. You’re as stupid as the rest of the trolls here. Rocket launcher? Estes rocket launchers? You’re afraid of children too? Wear your chains like a slave while you reduce the debate to the most asinine level.

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Especially since we should remember what the screaming and crying bayam was trying to argue were legitimate armaments when his fellow Occupy muppets were caught with them.

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 11:33 PM

you will have lost another battle is what’s gonna happen, lad.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Mhm. And you and your fellow Obama supporters are all lazily strolling through downtown Detroit, urban Washington DC, and South Side Chicago right now.

We’re very well aware that liberals attack only those who don’t fight back.

What happens when we do?

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 11:35 PM

bayam on January 7, 2013 at 11:14 PM

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There can only be one ACCEPTED interpretation of law, otherwise there’s anarchy.

I’m telling you “a well regulated militia” is not bound to orders from any Federal Commander In Chief, like the military is.

It is not part of the military.

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:36 PM

smoothsailing on January 7, 2013 at 10:15 PM

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you will have lost another battle is what’s gonna happen, lad.

sesquipedalian
on January 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

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What battle? Be specific.

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

What battle? Be specific.

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:39 PM

That’s a good question indeed, L2g.

What battle would ensue…..unless liberals intend to take our weapons by force?

Is the childish little boy threatening us?

Of course he is. Like the worthless liar Barack Obama he serves, he thinks he can scream and rant and bully us into doing his bidding.

Does he have the balls to march in and try to take guns?

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Here we have another well thought out topic from Ed, although I’m disappointed that he didn’t quite finish connecting the dots by including the lil tidbit of how the Communists in the White House recently spent BILLIONS[?] in getting HOLLOW POINT AMMUNITION for the IRS who will be in charge of collecting those Rom-0bamacare taxes. We already KNOW who they will use those armements arms against…

This should make the people who remain too busy to get involved quite happy. As they’ve refused to fight for their rights they shouldn’t care about giving them away. It isn’t as if they’ve EARNED them.

As the moderates cannot even take a staunch stand due to their fear of being called a name by the liberals I hope they enjoy being hearded along with the liberal sheeple.

History shows us that Americans ALWAYS get the government they deserves, and they keep only what they are willing to fight for. By the time the lethargic wake up and crawl out of the offal created by their sloth they usually serve as easy prey for their Stalin-like overlords.

DannoJyd on January 7, 2013 at 11:44 PM

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

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I’ve come to believe some (not necessarily all) of these trolls are trying to “poke” us into making threats back at them, for the expressed purpose of discreditting us with a public scandal.
Seems like a reasonable conclusion to me, anyway.

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:49 PM

And I’m sure you know who is by far most likely to be harmed by your gun(s), right?

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM

The one he points it at.

Fighton03 on January 7, 2013 at 11:50 PM

you will have lost another battle is what’s gonna happen, lad.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

You may recall a man that many liberals held in high esteem. George Tiller. He found out how far he could push things too.

Conservatives have been remarkably tolerant of being pushed into corners by those whose main contribution to our country is misery.

Every person has a tipping point. Keep thinking it’s just another battle. I sincerely hope those on the left are so naive.

BruthaMan on January 7, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Does he have the balls to march in and try to take guns?

northdallasthirty on January 7, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Over six TRILLION Dollars later and after shoving Rom-0bamacare down our throats, what makes you think he does not?

DannoJyd on January 7, 2013 at 11:54 PM

I’ve come to believe some (not necessarily all) of these trolls are trying to “poke” us into making threats back at them, for the expressed purpose of discreditting us with a public scandal.
Seems like a reasonable conclusion to me, anyway.

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:49 PM

A remote possibility, to be sure.

However, most liberals are not intelligent enough to provide for themselves. They are incapable of making the most simplistic and basic decisions on their own. For example, birth control. Liberals are not intelligent enough to make a $10 per month birth control decision on their own. They need a government to do it for them.

Many liberals are not intelligent enough to get a job on their own merits. They need union thugs, or government intervention such as affirmative action, in order to get a job because they are not intelligent enough to do so otherwise.

BruthaMan on January 7, 2013 at 11:58 PM

BruthaMan on January 7, 2013 at 11:51 PM

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Liberal common citizens on our level are as naieve as thet come.

But up on the National political stage, they are not.

They know exactly what they’re doing, and what they hope the outcome is.
These National level political figures are using the “useful idiot”, naieve, common liberals against us.

listens2glenn on January 8, 2013 at 12:00 AM

you will have lost another battle is what’s gonna happen, lad.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

But you and those of your ilk will lose the war, sh!tbird.

Moose Drool on January 8, 2013 at 12:03 AM

And I’m sure you know who is by far most likely to be harmed by your gun(s), right?

verbaluce on January 7, 2013 at 10:35 PM

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The one he points it at.

Fighton03 on January 7, 2013 at 11:50 PM

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. . . . . And that’s how Conservatives define “gun control”. : )

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What’d’ya think about that, verbaluce ? !

listens2glenn on January 8, 2013 at 12:06 AM

They know exactly what they’re doing, and what they hope the outcome is.
These National level political figures are using the “useful idiot”, naieve, common liberals against us.

listens2glenn on January 8, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Agreed. Most liberals are under-achievers. Those on the national level do know what they are doing, and use their low information voting base along with the media, to push those agendas.

We saw examples of this last year, when protesters showed up to protest at Romney events and when interviewed, didn’t even know what they were protesting.

This probably explains why the government purchase so much existing stocks of ammunition last year. I’m not a conspiracy nut, by far…but I do know when a man is pushed to far, there are consequences. Gun owners are tolerant of a lot of BS, but they are not going to roll over on this one.

BruthaMan on January 8, 2013 at 12:16 AM

you will have lost another battle is what’s gonna happen, lad.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

And that attitude is exactly why this is the one battle we absolutely will 100% never lose.

Anti-gun liberals only have keyboard jockeys like sesqui on their team, who will huff and puff on the internet, but would never actually lift a finger to contribute to the ‘anti-gun solution.’

Our side has people willing to die to protect their Constitutional rights.

Their side has effete little net-bullies who only care about this issue to make political hay.

This isn’t a fight you can win at the ballot box, or by stifling debate with standard leftist tactics like the race card or straw-manning the opposition as ‘extremist.’

But hey, if you really want to ‘keep up the fight,’ sesqui, bring it on. Never stop a loser with a bad hand from going all in.

But you know your side doesn’t have the balls to actually win this ‘fight.’ So I’d just recommend you all slink back to your studio apartment hovels and get to work on some other liberal hobby horses. Might I suggest securing gay marriage rights for animals so that AP can finally marry his cat?

Good Solid B-Plus on January 8, 2013 at 12:23 AM

listens2glenn on January 7, 2013 at 11:49 PM

BruthaMan on January 7, 2013 at 11:58 PM

As a person called a troll here last May when I [correctly] pointed out how piss poor a candidate Romney was going to be [no one was touting Romney at either of the 2 MIGOP Conventions] and how he would LOSE because of his being the archetect of 0bamacare, I find myself amused by your discomfiture by mere liberals.

I personally enjoy my discourse with them as it is so easy to make them lose their minds by just asking a few simple questions. Yes, I do abuse their intellects by forcing them to think but I also believe I am assisting them to recover from their filthy liberal disease and thus wake up.

Since this serves to prove the utter hypocricy of liberal democrats do keep this handy so as to ask them WHY the communists in Washington DC believe they need to much of this sort of ammo to do their jobs…

Feds Stockpiling Ammo

August 28, 2012 AFP

DannoJyd on January 8, 2013 at 12:26 AM

you will have lost another battle is what’s gonna happen, lad.

sesquipedalian on January 7, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I fought for your right to speak here. Yet you stab me in my back over another right guarenteed by our Constitution. Ironic. F*ck you civilian. You should know, I’ve never lost a battle. Have you ever even been in one? Have you seen anyone killed in battle? I have. I try to forget it, but it’s always there. You should come for mine. It’s important to you. You should come.

I will not give up a single firearm freely. I’d like to say that I’ll end up as a standard bearer for all of this, but there will be so many if us, they’ll lose track of who we were and what we stood for. I sincerely hope you’re in earnest that you think it important to do this. Because it’s going to cost dearly.

smoothsailing on January 8, 2013 at 12:26 AM

OOPS! Here is the link to the article, “Feds Stockpiling Ammo”.

DannoJyd on January 8, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Have you ever even been in one? Have you seen anyone killed in battle? I have. I try to forget it, but it’s always there.

smoothsailing on January 8, 2013 at 12:26 AM

I suspect sesquipedalian has never served anything more than cocktails in a gay bar.

In times of war, republicans go to the recruiting station to serve our country. Democrats go to the recruiting station to protest.

Excellent comments/points, btw.

BruthaMan on January 8, 2013 at 12:37 AM

smoothsailing on January 8, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Sir, don’t let those who have accomplished nothing worth mentioning while approving murdering their own babies and supporting the communists who have made ChiTcago into a battle field where more people die on any given week than in Afganistan get your goat. Just consider the source.

I want them to explain things like this to me:

Social Security Administration Explains Plan to Buy 174,000 Hollow-Point Bullets

By Penny Starr

August 16, 2012

DannoJyd on January 8, 2013 at 12:44 AM

You should come for mine. It’s important to you. You should come.

smoothsailing on January 8, 2013 at 12:26 AM

He never will. He is the embodiment of Mills statement:

“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

Fighton03 on January 8, 2013 at 12:49 AM

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