Dem Senator: Obama “way in extreme” on gun control

posted at 10:41 am on January 7, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

What prospects are there on Capitol Hill for Barack Obama’s upcoming push for comprehensive gun-control legislation? Zero, as long as the House remains under Republican control, despite all of the talk about an ObamaCare-like approach that attempts to pull in support from big business. But it doesn’t look all that good in the Senate, either. Newly-elected Democratic Senator Heidi Heitkamp told George Stephanopoulos that Obama’s “extreme” proposals don’t address the real issues, and that it won’t even pass the Senate:

Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, D-N.D, told me this morning on “This Week”  that while all options should be on the table to address gun violence, President Obama’s reported plans to curb shootings are ”way in extreme” when I pressed her this morning on the kinds on measures she could potentially support.

“I think you need to put everything on the table, but what I hear from the administration – and if the Washington Post is to be believed – that’s way, way in extreme of what I think is necessary or even should be talked about. And it’s not going to pass,” said Heitkamp, a member of the National Rifle Association.

Heitkamp, who has an “A” rating from the NRA and was elected in a state that Gov. Mitt Romney won by nearly 20 points, stressed the importance of addressing mental health as part of the effort to curb violent shootings.

“Let’s start addressing the problem. And to me, one of the issues that I think comes, screams out of this is the issue of mental health and the care for the mentally ill in our country, especially the dangerously mentally ill,” she said. “And, so, we need to have a broad discussion before we start talking about gun control.”

The Washington Post had reported over the weekend that the White House wanted to build a broad coalition for much more far-ranging legislation than first thought:

The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said.

To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda.

In addition to potential legislative proposals, Biden’s group has expanded its focus to include measures that would not need congressional approval and could be quickly implemented by executive action, according to interest-group leaders who have discussed options with Biden and key Cabinet secretaries. Possibilities include changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

That last sentence caught the eye of Katie Pavlich:

It is important to keep an eye on the Department of Justice as the focus in the media is on President Obama and Vice President Joe Biden. After all, Attorney General Eric Holder, the same guy who said we should “brainwash” people against guns, oversees the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, and has already pushed through new gun control regulations. Not to mention, we all know how well ATF tracks guns…yes, the same people who deliberately allowed the trafficking of thousands of assault weapons to violent Mexican cartels are now being put in charge of controlling the type of firearms you own.

The ATF has a huge credibility issue that this administration has made exponentially worse, thanks to its invocation of executive privilege on Fast & Furious.  Until that gets resolved, why should anyone trust what the White House has to say on guns and violence at all?

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Was there any doubt that the Dear Liar wasn’t going to go after the right of self-defense?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Translation: Please re-elect my stupid @$$!

CurtZHP on January 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Blue Dog reemerging? Is there hope for the Democrat party?

Archivarix on January 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Can anyone explain just what is the difference between the arbitrarily defined “Assault Weapon” and the Arms protected under the 2nd amendment?

And can anyone tell me the exact numerical value of “High” in the term “High capacity”?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools

Yeah, that’ll help prevent another Sandy Hook.

SAZMD on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Has the press ever done a background check on Obama?

kurtzz3 on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

She had better protect her blue LADY PARTS – obama and the democrat party own her, and soon enough, her opinion will “evolve” – or she will suffer the consequences. No democrat can/should be trusted.

Pork-Chop on January 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Blue Dog reemerging? Is there hope for the Democrat party?

Archivarix on January 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM

As long as the GOP keeps losing Senate seats in places like North Dakota, Montana and Indiana there will be some Democrat Senators who have to pretend to be sane sometimes.

forest on January 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM

“Let’s start addressing the problem. And to me, one of the issues that I think comes, screams out of this is the issue of mental health and the care for the mentally ill in our country, especially the dangerously mentally ill,” she said

…that will be easy…start in D.C.!

KOOLAID2 on January 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Pure ear candy for the donkey low-info voters. Ain’t gonna happen.

platypus on January 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM

“Ordinary citizens don’t need guns, as their having guns doesn’t serve the State.” – Heinrich Himmler, 1935
“This year will go down in history! For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead into the future!” – Adolph Hitler, 1935
“I don’t care about crime, I just want to get the guns.” – Sen. Howard Metzenbaum, 1994

iurockhead on January 7, 2013 at 10:53 AM

stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools

Yeah, that’ll help prevent another Sandy Hook.

SAZMD on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Low Information Voter Thoughts
http://thepeoplescube.com/peoples-blog/low-information-voter-thoughts-t10490.html

• Why stop at Gun Free Zones? We should also create Crime Free Zones!

• I voted for Change, so how come things are still the same?

• The National Socialist Party had nothing to do with Socialism, right?

• We have weekends off, thanks to unions. If enough people join unions,
we can get the other five days off.

• My body is my business, but so is what other people earn.

• I don’t care what the Bill Of Rights is, as long as someone’s footing the bill.

• Why read the Constitution when you can watch the Daily Show?

• Voting “D” = free stuff. Voting “R”= bummer, I’ll have to work.

• I read in Cosmo that Republicans want to ban sex. It’s totally true.

• We keep voting democrat, but we’re STILL poor.

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Cold dead hands you bastards.

jawkneemusic on January 7, 2013 at 10:53 AM

If you read Sen. Feinstien’s bill, it’s nothing like the “common-sense” approach they’re telling people it is.

JohnBrown on January 7, 2013 at 10:54 AM

with all the hysteria over gun sales I would like to report a semi auto S&W 45 is about $30 higher ($679) at Academy than it was before Thanksgiving. 30 mins in and out.

DanMan on January 7, 2013 at 10:54 AM

KOOLAID2 on January 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM

DC is filled less with the “mentally ill” type and more with the “raging sociopath” type

Gatsu on January 7, 2013 at 10:54 AM

If you live in NC, write Hagen. She’s a Dim but she’s up for re-election next go and has a decent 2nd Amend record.

Dingbat63 on January 7, 2013 at 10:54 AM

Can anyone explain just what is the difference between the arbitrarily defined “Assault Weapon” and the Arms protected under the 2nd amendment?

And can anyone tell me the exact numerical value of “High” in the term “High capacity”?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

“Assault Weapon” – Any weapon that, in appearance only, resembles a military-issue rifle.

“High capacity” – More than 10 (ten) rounds.

Washington Nearsider on January 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

As long as the GOP keeps losing Senate seats in places like North Dakota, Montana and Indiana there will be some Democrat Senators who have to pretend to be sane sometimes.

forest on January 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM

I absolutely fail to understand how the Repubs reach such profound depths of suck as to lose states won by their presidential candidate by double digits. Closing the primaries would be a small first step; giving the candidates an IQ test would be another.

Archivarix on January 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

And what was the obamacare like tactic? Demonpass??

Red Creek on January 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Can anyone explain just what is the difference between the arbitrarily defined “Assault Weapon” and the Arms protected under the 2nd amendment?

And can anyone tell me the exact numerical value of “High” in the term “High capacity”?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

I’ll go with ‘scary’ and ‘greater than one’ to those questions.

trigon on January 7, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Blue Dog reemerging? Is there hope for the Democrat party?

Archivarix on January 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM

As long as the GOP keeps losing Senate seats in places like North Dakota, Montana and Indiana there will be some Democrat Senators who have to pretend to be sane sometimes.

forest on January 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Exactly, beat me to it

Evan Bayh fooled Hoosiers for years as a moderate until it came time to pay the piper and vote for Obamacare, against the strong wishes of his constituents. He folded like a cheap suit, and happily so.

The only Dims who aren’t extreme far left are the ones sitting in R+10 seats who have no business being in office in the first place

We have something like 7 Dem Senators from strong R states up for reeelection in 2014– gun control seems like a very convenient wedge issue for us to hold their feet to the fire

thurman on January 7, 2013 at 11:00 AM

I have always wondered why I have not heard what I consider to be the main defense for the 2nd amendment, that being the “security of a free state”. In this case I believe the founders are merely using the word “state” as in state of being -not as liberals interpret it as one of the 50 (or 57 depending on who is counting) in the US. To remain as free individuals and maintain that “state” of freedom and security the founders specifically wrote the 2nd ammendment. Any thoughts or futher comments?

jaywemm on January 7, 2013 at 11:01 AM

I was watching some old Rifleman clips last night. I think his modified 1892 winchester would pass for an assault weapon by todays standards.

Red Creek on January 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

And can anyone tell me the exact numerical value of “High” in the term “High capacity”?

More than zero.

Socratease on January 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Eric Holder, the same guy who said we should “brainwash” people against guns

Would this program go so far as to brainwash some weak minded people into committing gun crimes? We really need the right people to investigate the Sandy Hook and Aurora shootings. It might be interesting to check and see what schools and companies were associated with shooters or their families. The network can make things happen. If that sounds conspiratorial, so what? Conspiracies are the business of the network.

Buddahpundit on January 7, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Heitkamp -No, Manchin – No, Landrieu – No, Pryor – No, Begich – No, Johnson – No………..the list of Dem’s who would oppose just keeps growing.

Tater Salad on January 7, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Is there not one attractive female Democrat? They all are as ugly on the outside as they are on the inside. Speaking of which, unconfirmed sighting of our Secretary of State in DC. Her case of the Benghazis seems to be improving.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM

I was watching some old Rifleman clips last night. I think his modified 1892 winchester would pass for an assault weapon by todays standards.

We haven’t seen Feinstein’s bill yet, but it’s alleged to include pump-action shotguns. It would be entirely possible for it to include lever-action as well.

But you’ll have to pass it to find out what’s in it.

Socratease on January 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM

“High capacity” – More than 10 (ten) rounds.

Washington Nearsider on January 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

High capacity- Magazines that can hold more than 10 rounds. Sorry to pick at nits here but this is one of those issues where we have to be precise in the terminology because the enemy who wants to ban all weapons speak in such general terms it is clear their intent is not a realistic discussion.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

OK. So congress won’t pass gun control. Does that even matter anymore?

The real question is will they allow it to be passed by other, more powerful law-making bodies.

Presidential Executive Order?
Agency regulation?
Binding U.N. treaty?

Lots of power-wielding law makers are willing to impose unconstitutional infringements upon our liberties. And the U.S. Congress likes it that way. They do so revel in their plausible unaccountability.

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Heitkamp, who has an “A” rating from the NRA and was elected in a state that Gov. Mitt Romney won by nearly 20 points, stressed the importance of addressing mental health as part of the effort to curb violent shootings.

When your presidential nominee carries a red state with that kind of margin, yet your Senate candidate-on the same ticket-loses, there’s a problem.

I’m glad to hear this from the newly-elected Senator, but it wouldn’t surprise me if she changes her tune after some arm twisting. Red staters should never believe someone who shares a party with the likes of Obama and Reid is truly their ally.

changer1701 on January 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Never trust.

Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 11:10 AM

It is important to keep an eye on the Department of Justice

Why? so we can see the House Republicans continue to not perform their proper oversight role with a rogue, out of control part of the least transparent administration ever! They’ve done great with F&F, the EPA, Czars, executive orders, and on and on. I fear John “my crying eyes” Boner as much as Odumbo and his merry band of communist subversives

skanter on January 7, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Lots of power-wielding law makers are willing to impose unconstitutional infringements upon our liberties. And the U.S. Congress likes it that way. They do so revel in their plausible unaccountability.

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Let’s not forget ignoring HIPPA laws and allowing some bureaucrat to track your use of mental health services and deciding if you “deserve” to purchase a gun.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM

If you read Sen. Feinstien’s bill, it’s nothing like the “common-sense” approach they’re telling people it is.

JohnBrown on January 7, 2013 at 10:54 AM

No, it isn’t. It’s an all-out gun grab.

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/federal-legislation/2012/feinstein-goes-for-broke-with-new-gun-ban-bill.aspx

Pork-Chop on January 7, 2013 at 11:13 AM

We haven’t seen Feinstein’s bill yet, but it’s alleged to include pump-action shotguns. It would be entirely possible for it to include lever-action as well.

But you’ll have to pass it to find out what’s in it.

Socratease on January 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM

She may not have thought about lever action yet, but she’ll get around to it given enough time. But keep in mind that the 92 winchester holds 11 – 12 rounds. That rifle is currently in production.

Red Creek on January 7, 2013 at 11:20 AM

A Democrat with b, uh, guts? Good to see. And amazing on the word choice. She used the word ‘extreme’, something the pub leaders won’t use. Gotta use ‘extreme’ and ‘radical’ more often. Good to see this dem speak up.

tommy71 on January 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM

The NRA loves Harry Reid. You just know he will never bring up a bill which would harm the 2nd Amendment.So not to worry./

CW20 on January 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM

The logic here is to demand a hundred issues and when all the dust settles and they pass just one of the hundred they make it sound like they lost and once that one issue is passed the amendments continue on that one passed issue. Political rocket science.

mixplix on January 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM

What prospects are there on Capitol Hill for Barack Obama’s upcoming push for comprehensive gun-control legislation? Zero, as long as the House remains under Republican control…

Silly Ed; that’s what executive orders are for! Dictators don’t need no steenking legislation!

Midas on January 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM

was watching some old Rifleman clips last night. I think his modified 1892 winchester would pass for an assault weapon by todays standards.

Red Creek on January 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

I read CBS is going to do a remake of the series. If that actually happens, I predict it will be a propaganda vehicle for gun control advocates. The original series was great, still showing in places, thanks to cable and broadcast digital tv’s extra channels.

Fenris on January 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM

stressed the importance of addressing mental health as part of the effort to curb violent shootings.

Wake up people.

The idea of mental health is a subjective one and the psychological dictionary is controlled by a group that is more than 70% liberal. To leave any right in the hands of a group of such biased and dishonest mental health professionals to show you are willing to compromise is courting defeat. Is no one aware that the latest and greatest psychology standards manual has defined “anger” as a mental condition? Why do you think we are seeing conservatives increasingly described as “angry”?

Probably just a coincidence…

Right?…

We do not need to compromise on this. I mean, just what part of “shall not be infringed” are these firearmphobics unable to understand?

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 11:29 AM

On another note how the F— did we lose the ND senate seat? I’m still shaking my head about that one. WTF.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM

And Heidi Heitkamp is NO Blue Dog democrat. She is a far left zealot, in favor of cap and betray, Obamacare, Buffet Rule and all the other liberal wet dreams.

Don’t forget she was a freaking ACLU lawyer in the early 90s and then an EPA administrator.

How she got elected in ND, remains a mystery. Anyone from ND have an explanation?

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 7, 2013 at 11:36 AM

The Mexican drug cartels seem to have vast knowledge of our gun issues, we should ask them…

right2bright on January 7, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I read CBS is going to do a remake of the series. If that actually happens, I predict it will be a propaganda vehicle for gun control advocates. The original series was great, still showing in places, thanks to cable and broadcast digital tv’s extra channels.

Fenris on January 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Oh great, Matt Damon or some other hollywood libtard as the Rifleman.

Red Creek on January 7, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Maybe the “if it feels good do it? movement really did do a lot of harm to our society.

Perhaps a moral society really is the freedom requirement.

We do want to be free don’t we?

Speakup on January 7, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Rehberg(R) ran against Tester who has done nothing the first 6 years except rubber stamp any and all dem bills. There was a non profit pac called Montana Hunters and Anglers that no one had heard of before who funneled money in from unknown pockets that Alinskyed Rehberg and put up TV ad after ad accusing him of things he had never done. The group has now disappeared from the state. Rick Hill running for gov was also treated in the same fashion. They ran ads accusing him of wanting to implement a sales tax which is a big effing deal here. He lost to a dem when he didn’t fight that smear hard enough. It’s just as tough out here in the boonies as in the big cities.

Kissmygrits on January 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM

On another note how the F— did we lose the ND senate seat? I’m still shaking my head about that one. WTF.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Not sure. What unionized company was in charge of keeping the machines correctly calibrated? What are the political leanings/associations of those entrusted to count the votes? With the current capabilities to crunch politically meaningful demographic data at the precinct level, one has merely to throw the numbers in a very small numbers of select precincts to ensure a “proper” outcome.

Lucky for us, the Speaker of the House came out early and strong to state he wouldn’t contest the vote.

Could he be the best and most patriotic Speaker ever? I mean, isn’t he dreamy? /s

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM

On another note how the F— did we lose the ND senate seat? I’m still shaking my head about that one. WTF.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM

If it’s anything like Minnesota, they’re tied deeply to the farmers (DFL party), and so people that are normally conservative-minded vote for the candidate linked to their rural livelihoods.

Nutstuyu on January 7, 2013 at 11:48 AM

“Assault Weapon” – Any weapon that, in appearance only, resembles a military-issue rifle.

“High capacity” – More than 10 (ten) rounds.

Washington Nearsider on January 7, 2013 at 10:55 AM

I’m starting to see a market for the Hello Kitty! pink, belt fed, semi-auto rifle.

It is pink, not nasty black!

It is belt fed, not magazine fed, so very safe!

It has Hello Kitty! faces on it so it must be friendly!

I want mine in 50 BMG, please.

ajacksonian on January 7, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Holder controls BATFE. All they have to do is re-classify whatever they want as a class III weapon and it defaults to the 1934 Gun Control Act.

wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

why should anyone trust what the White House has to say on guns and violence at all?

Why indeed.

GarandFan on January 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Partly there is not a ingle marquee writer at Hot Air that has anything but superficial knowledge on the gun subject.
~45% of the new firearms sold in this nation are imported. Obama can block this via EO.
The number of FFLs in this nation has declined greatly over the last 25yrs, thanks to deliberate BATFE policy and harassment. Like so many others, a regulatory agency run amuck, under the purview of the POTUS.
then there’s repeated attempts to destroy firearms related materials via the DMRO.
the attempts to block primer and powder sales via OSHA rule changes.
The attempts to block ammo sales and hunting using lead ammo, via the EPA
the ATF seizing AIRSOFT rifles in WA state with the specious claim the can be converted into machine guns.
A large portion of our ammunition comes from foreign sources and can be interfered with via the State dept and US Customs.

There are a LOT of ways the Obamunists can interfere with and disrupt the use and ownership of firearms in this nation that do NOT require legislative action. Obama is plainly signaling that he intends to unilaterally act an exercise them all. Being the would-be dictator that he is, that’s his preferred course anyway. And the 113th House under Boehner will not take the steps necessary to stop it.

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Plainly, not partly. Damned iPad.

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 11:59 AM

@rayra The iPad will betray you.

tommy71 on January 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Red state Dems up for re-election in bold

Alaska Mark Begich
Arkansas Mark Pryor
Colorado Mark Udall
Louisiana Mary Landrieu
Michigan Carl Levin
Minnesota Al Franken
Montana Max Baucus
New Hampshire Jeanne Shaheen
New Jersey Frank Lautenberg
New Mexico Tom Udall
North Carolina Kay Hagan
Oregon Jeff Merkley
South Dakota Tim Johnson
Virginia Mark Warner
West Virginia Jay Rockefeller

TxAnn56 on January 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Was there any doubt that the Dear Liar wasn’t going to go after the right of self-defense, hunting, preventing government monopoly of force?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM

The 2nd Amendment has zero to do with self-defense & hunting. They are byproducts.

roy_batty on January 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Heidi’s gonna get a call from the President very soon. Her tune will change… or else !

stenwin77 on January 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Blue Dog reemerging? Is there hope for the Democrat party?

[Archivarix on January 7, 2013 at 10:46 AM]

I doubt it. What more can you say about someone who says everything should be on the table, but what Obama proposes is so extreme it shouldn’t be on the table. In the same sentence. Just because she suugests it won’t pass, doesn’t mean she will be a part of not letting it pass, though she would like that to be inferred.

And as for her comments about what is screaming to be talked about, Obama has put discussion of mental health care the table, too. That she says that should be talked about first, rather than talked about instead just indicates to me she’ll be willing to compromise and include both under the right circumstances.

Heitkamp was preening, incoherently and disingenuously, in my opinion. At best, it’s the re-emegence of BDINO and the Return of the Ghost of Bart Stupak.

Dusty on January 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM

A Ruger 10/22 will be reclassified as a class III weapon.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Bishop on January 7, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Maybe the “if it feels good do it? movement really did do a lot of harm to our society.

Perhaps a moral society really is the freedom requirement.

We do want to be free don’t we?

Speakup on January 7, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Evidently not…given the results of the last election.

Or at least, not enough of us.

Solaratov on January 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM

The 2nd Amendment has zero to do with self-defense & hunting. They are byproducts.

[roy_batty on January 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM]

True in the ’round the kitchen table’ talk sort of way. But it has everything to do with the general concept of the unalienable right to self-defense against infringement of unalienable rights whether by individuals or by government.

Dusty on January 7, 2013 at 12:26 PM

ajacksonian on January 7, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I’m going for the My Little Pony RPG launcher, myself. ;0

Seriously, it makes as much sense when the only criteria about what should be banned is how scary it looks to some pansy who doesn’t know the difference between a clip and a magazine.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM

rayra on January 7, 2013 at 11:59 AM

And it aint just firearms. A toy store near me may soon be closing its doors because of harrassment over airsoft guns and model rocket engines.

I guess they who might be tyrannts fear anything gun or rocket (shaped).

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Silly Ed; that’s what executive orders are for! Dictators don’t need no steenking legislation!

Midas on January 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM

In Hot Air Candy Cane world, Obama is simply a misguided “amateur” who’s just doing a little strategic Beltway gamesmanship.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on January 7, 2013 at 12:35 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Schadenfreude on January 7, 2013 at 12:42 PM

And can anyone tell me the exact numerical value of “High” in the term “High capacity”?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

It is possible that a 5000 round drum magazine could perhaps be considered high capacity … but certainly nothing smaller.

conservative tarheel on January 7, 2013 at 12:50 PM

I guess they who might be tyrannts fear anything gun or rocket (shaped).

ROCnPhilly on January 7, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Congressman VanHollen was on one of the chat factories yesterday and decried the fact that one can be on a terrorist watch list and still legally purchase a gun. Well, Congressman, just whose fault is it that a guy on a terrorist watch list is walking the streets of America in the first place? You and all you filthy liberals think the solution is to ban stuff without once being retrospective enough to question just how well you and your colleagues in the political class have been doing your jobs.

Happy Nomad on January 7, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Has the press ever done a background check on Obama?

kurtzz3 on January 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

No, they have not. They steadfastly refuse to perform the tasks they should be performing in order to promote the interests of the state.

dogsoldier on January 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM

There is no gun show loop hole. Another myth. You buy a gun at a gun show you still have your background check. Nothing changes. They just keep repeating the same lie over and over.

If gun shops could get away with selling guns at guns shows without background checks… there would be no gun shops. Not trying to tarnish the image of gun shops or anything.. but it’s just a stupid statement.

It’s like they myth that woman are paid less than men. If that were true… no man would be able to get a job in America. Companies would hire only women.

JellyToast on January 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Was there any doubt that the Dear Liar wasn’t going to go after the right of self-defense, hunting, preventing government monopoly of force?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 10:45 AM

The 2nd Amendment has zero to do with self-defense & hunting. They are byproducts.

roy_batty on January 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

This is true – there in fact is no mention of hunting in the BOR and it is clear that is to being necessary to the security of a free state – ie a bulwark against tyranny.

So is there any doubt as to why the Dear Liar wants that constraint on his power to be removed or places until his ‘Benevolent’ control?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I read CBS is going to do a remake of the series. If that actually happens, I predict it will be a propaganda vehicle for gun control advocates. The original series was great, still showing in places, thanks to cable and broadcast digital tv’s extra channels.

Fenris on January 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Oh great, Matt Damon or some other hollywood libtard as the Rifleman.

In developing news, diversity minded Hollywood has disclosed that Dennis Haysbert will be cast as the new Lucas McCain, and as yet unnamed, a young girl to play Marky McCain, now portrayed as an adopted latino who’s natural parents, close friends and neighbors of the widowed Lucas, tragically died from drinking poisoned well water, as a result of a local eastern syndicate mining operation tainting the water table.

The focus on the new series will be McCain diplomatically talking his way out of life threatening situations to himself and daughter, the town and local environment, in show-down birch beer summits at the North Fork, NM saloon ,without having to actually use his rifle for anything other than shooting it off at an unseen target in the opening credits.

Coincidently, All State Insurance has expressed interest in sponsoring this new series.

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

@Raquel, Heidi is a far left zealot? Bwahahaha, you’ve no idea what far left is. And your hatred blinds you. In your opinion, which dem senator ain’t far left? Lol. This reminds me of the Rice controversy, when the prog wingnuts claimed that McCain was far right. I laughed at them.

tommy71 on January 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

wolly4321 on January 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Can you explain just what is the difference between the arbitrarily defined “Assault Weapon” and the Arms protected under the 2nd amendment?

Galt2009 on January 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

There was an episode that starts off with McCain saving a traveling salesman from drinking poisoned spring water. I don’t think they ever said why it was poisoned, I’m thinking it was dead animals. I’m sure they could rewrite the plot appropriately. You don’t expect them to come up with all new plots, do you?!?

Fenris on January 7, 2013 at 1:13 PM

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

There was an episode that starts off with McCain saving a traveling salesman from drinking poisoned spring water. I don’t think they ever said why it was poisoned, I’m thinking it was dead animals. I’m sure they could rewrite the plot appropriately. You don’t expect them to come up with all new plots, do you?!?

All new!? Not a chance. They can just tweak the old episodes for today’s audience and issues with the appropriate PC material to get the desired propaganda and non-offending messages across.

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

“And, so, we need to have a broad discussion before we start talking about gun control.”

We don’t talk about “gun control.” We have a Second Amendment. Period.

Here’s what a republican politician needs to say the next tme he’s in front of a propaganda-spewing MSM automaton: “Barack Obama lacks the moral authority to lecture America about guns. He needs to recuse himself from this entire issue.

Huh? The screeching car crash in the automaton’s head opens the way for the counter-Narrative onslaught on Fast and Furious. “You’re a Journalist, correct? Then surely you’re aware of Fast and Furious. You’ve read Katie Pavlitch’s book and Bob Owens’ breakthrough investigative journalism, and heard Sheryl Atkinson’s reports. No? Let me do your job for you then. This president approved and his administration operated an illegal and lethal gun running operation to the Mexican drug cartel intended to smear the Second Amendment by attributing crime in Mexico to American owned and trafficked firearms. Hundreds of innocent Mexican civilians and two US Border Patrol members were killed. The President stymied congressinal inquiry by asserting Executive Privilege and sealing thousands of pages of documents. That’s the issue.”

rrpjr on January 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

We don’t talk about “gun control.” We have a Second Amendment. Period.

The only gun control that interests me is personally controlling the gun to consistently hit the target.

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

There was an episode that starts off with McCain saving a traveling salesman from drinking poisoned spring water. I don’t think they ever said why it was poisoned, I’m thinking it was dead animals. I’m sure they could rewrite the plot appropriately. You don’t expect them to come up with all new plots, do you?!?

All new!? Not a chance. They can just tweak the old episodes for today’s audience and issues with the appropriate PC material to get the desired propaganda and non-offending messages across.

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 1:24 PM

They’ll have to recast the Sammy Davis Jr. episodes with a white guy so they don’t look raaaacist.

Red Creek on January 7, 2013 at 2:21 PM

They’ll have to recast the Sammy Davis Jr. episodes with a white native american gay gal so they don’t look raaaacist.

Straight white guys are so 20th century…..unless cast as the bad guys which still is a fine approach for Hollywood these days. And we must revise history, even in TV fiction, to give the LGBT its due in their as yet untold story of the settling and taming of our west….giving new found meaning to the “wild” west.

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 2:28 PM

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 2:28 PM

While they’re sitting around the table reading the Bible or Mark Twain pays a visit, there will be an opportunity for a teachable moment about gays and racism, I’m sure.

Fenris on January 7, 2013 at 2:34 PM

On another note how the F— did we lose the ND senate seat? I’m still shaking my head about that one. WTF.

Raquel Pinkbullet on January 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM

If it’s anything like Minnesota, they’re tied deeply to the farmers (DFL party), and so people that are normally conservative-minded vote for the candidate linked to their rural livelihoods.

Nutstuyu on January 7, 2013 at 11:48 AM

NoDaker’s have a long history of progressive politics going back to the days of the Non-Partisan League.

Plus farmers like free stuff as much as everyone else.

(Extra credit depressing fact: Al Franken will be re-elected in Minny in 2014.)

Bruno Strozek on January 7, 2013 at 3:58 PM

hawkeye54 on January 7, 2013 at 2:28 PM

On second thought, they can just cast Snoop Dog for the role. Problem solved.

Red Creek on January 7, 2013 at 4:19 PM

No doubt in my mind that this woman and that useful idiot from West Virginia, Joe Mansion, will vote to confiscate when the time comes.

kens on January 7, 2013 at 4:58 PM