Quotes of the day
posted at 8:01 pm on January 6, 2013 by Allahpundit
The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.
A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said…
To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda…
In addition to potential legislative proposals, Biden’s group has expanded its focus to include measures that would not need congressional approval and could be quickly implemented by executive action, according to interest-group leaders who have discussed options with Biden and key Cabinet secretaries. Possibilities include changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade…
Boston mayor Thomas Menino, co-chair of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told the Boston Herald this week that an optimistic Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”
“We had been led to believe their report would come by end of January, but we’re hearing they may want to have something out by January 15, even quicker than expected,” Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told TPM…
Glaze acknowledged the NRA has long held an advantage not only in its cash resources, but in its large and active grassroots membership, which has rallied in the past to whip members of Congress against gun control bills. For gun control advocates, they’ll have to offer a compelling case that lawmakers who squelch reforms will pay a price in the midterm elections and that means building their own active network of supporters. Glaze is confident they can do so, citing recent polls showing restrictions on extended ammunition clips and an expansion of background checks to be popular nationally.
“It hit me in a way that the others didn’t, and that’s terribly unfair to those other families, but I would not be honest if I said otherwise. This hit me in a way that no other incident has in years,” Casey said in an interview. “I found myself being more emotional about this than virtually anything I’ve ever worked on.”…
Casey’s introspection isn’t a unique tale among normally pro-gun Democrats. Across Capitol Hill, lawmakers ranging from Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia to Rep. John Yarmuth of Kentucky are acknowledging that the Sandy Hook tragedy has, at least for now, left them open to reconsidering measures they once staunchly opposed…
It’s not just congressmen who have reexamined their opinions, according to Rep. Tim Holden of Pennsylvania, a normally pro-gun Democrat whose campaign received a contribution from the NRA’s political arm during the 2012 cycle. “I was just talking to my brother a couple of hours ago, and he’s a much more avid hunter than I am; and he was, like, something’s gotta happen here,” he said.
I recently visited some Latin American countries that mesh with the N.R.A.’s vision of the promised land, where guards with guns grace every office lobby, storefront, A.T.M., restaurant and gas station. It has not made those countries safer or saner.
Despite the ubiquitous presence of “good guys” with guns, countries like Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Colombia and Venezuela have some of the highest homicide rates in the world…
Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”
“The argument against gun-safety provisions is always, ‘Because it doesn’t solve everything, we shouldn’t do anything.’ And I don’t subscribe to that,” Van Hollen said. “Just because a particular effort won’t prevent … one particular incident, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do anything that might help in other incidents.”…
In a heated exchange, Van Hollen challenged Jordan to join him in support of background checks for all gun purchases, not just those conducted by licensed dealers. Jordan declined.
“I support it for concealed carry,” Jordan said.
“No, I’m talking about before you can go out and buy a semi-automatic weapon,” Van Hollen said.
“You have to remember what the Second Amendment says,” Jordan responded. “It’s about freedom.”
Strengthening mental health checks is obviously important, and a national database of gun sales could have some use, particularly for post-shooting investigations, and closing the so-called gun show loophole, as I’ve written before, would at least place a stumbling block before unqualified gun buyers. But unless and until the government comes up with a plan to radically reduce the number of guns in civilian hands (roughly 300 million, and that number is most likely growing at a torrid pace, because discussion of stringent gun control measures sends gun buyers flocking to stores and gun shows), then not too much will change. Which is why I believe law-abiding, screened and trained citizens should be allowed to carry handguns, if they so choose. It’s an unfortunate, but realistic, response (not the only response, of course) to the tragic fact that criminals and the dangerously mentally ill have fairly easy access to weaponry…
The population of concealed-carry permit holders in the U.S. now exceeds 9 million, and this group is responsible for very little crime — they commit crime at a rate lower than the general population, and lower than police officers, and they certainly, as a rule, don’t open fire on anyone who looks threatening. They are not the problem, and concealed-carry generally is not the problem. It may even be part of a solution, until such time as a giant magnet appears over the continental U.S. and sucks into the sky America’s civilian-owned weapons, or until the gun control movement convinces the majority of Americans who believe in private weapons ownership to open a debate about the 2nd Amendment.
In the meantime, I can’t get two Newtown numbers out of my head: 26, the number of people, mainly small children, who were murdered in the school; and 20, the number of minutes it took the police to arrive.
People will tell pollsters that the widespread availability of certain types of weapons makes the nation more dangerous rather than safer, but they don’t support measures to curtail their use. If Newtown hasn’t pushed the numbers much, why not? One plausible explanation is a lack of trust in the people who would be doing the regulating…
We are now approaching four years since the U.S. Senate enacted a budget. The last was in April 2009. And bear in mind that federal law requires an annual budget. Imagine the ire of the senators toward a private firm that treated legal requirements so casually.
Amid such ineptitude, “Trust us, we’ll protect you,” isn’t a very persuasive case to make to the tens of millions of Americans who have guns — often very powerful ones — in their homes. And directing fury at gun owners for their lack of trust isn’t likely to increase their faith in government.
As a general proposition, arguments born of emotion are not likely to be well thought out — or to persuade those not already on board. Yet anger has been very much the style of the case for gun control over the past few weeks.
The shooter stole the guns from his mother, who passed a background check (Connecticut has that); the guns, being stolen and used rather than resold, would have been effectively invisible to a hypothetical database; the guns were not in fact owned by a mentally unstable, violent person who used them to murder children (they were stolen by somebody who used them for that); and penalties for possession of firearms around schools or by minors obviously had no effect on the shooter (who was, by the way, a legal adult).
Now, I’m not going to tell you that Nothing Will Ever Pass. Politics doesn’t work like that. What I am saying is that initiatives like this reveal pretty comprehensively that the Democratic party is, at bottom, uncomfortable on an institutional level with the very concept of guns. That this tracks pretty well with the march of the New Left through the Democratic party’s institutions is no accident. In 2013 we are going to see the New Left put lots of pressure on recalcitrant Democratic politicians to renounce their affiliation to the basic civil right of self-defense; and while I do not expect Congress to pass any serious legislation along those lines while the GOP controls the House, we are going to see some notable defections among the Democrats. If Obamacare taught us nothing else, it taught us that a Democratic politician is a Democrat first, a Democrat second – and, say, pro-life a distant third.
So I recommend that nobody trust anybody in the Democratic party to keep from mucking with the Second Amendment. They’re a weak reed that will break in your hand. Simple as that.
Gun control has been a central preoccupation of President Obama’s career ever since his time in the Illinois State Senate (where he famously missed a crucial vote while he was on vacation in Hawaii). During the 2008 campaign, Vice President Biden was dispatched to quell fears of Obama’s agenda on guns: “I guarantee you Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey…If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem,” Biden told a Virginia crowd, touting his own gun ownership.
President Obama has also been careful to avoid direct confrontations with those he once referred to as “bitter clingers”–white, working-class, gun-owning, and religious Americans. He voiced open support for gay marriage, for example, only when it had become a sticking point with irked liberal donors in his 2012 presidential campaign.
Now, with re-election out of the way, President Obama has the “flexibility” he boasted of to former Russian President Dmitri Medvedev. And he is prepared to exploit the Sandy Hook killings to the fullest to enact a gun control agenda many decades in the making.
The Californian picked to lead congressional Democrats’ efforts on gun control says the positions held by some gun rights advocates are unnecessarily divisive, and that government action should go beyond simply outlawing certain weapons…
The phrase “gun control,” Thompson said, is not comprehensive enough for the discussion.
“A lot of times when you talk about gun control, you turn off more than half of your audience,” he said in the interview. Possible solutions can include “everything from the background checks to the assault magazines, the assault weapons, the mental health (system) capacities that we have, our culture of violence that seems to be so overwhelming right now.”
Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, D-N.D, told me this morning on “This Week” that while all options should be on the table to address gun violence, President Obama’s reported plans to curb shootings are ”way in extreme” when I pressed her this morning on the kinds on measures she could potentially support.
“I think you need to put everything on the table, but what I hear from the administration – and if the Washington Post is to be believed – that’s way, way in extreme of what I think is necessary or even should be talked about. And it’s not going to pass,” said Heitkamp, a member of the National Rifle Association.
Heitkamp, who has an “A” rating from the NRA and was elected in a state that Gov. Mitt Romney won by nearly 20 points, stressed the importance of addressing mental health as part of the effort to curb violent shootings.
Asked if there was any new gun legislation he might be willing to approve, Cruz replied, “I don’t think the proposals being discussed now make sense.” Senator Dianne Feinstein, he said, is proposing a national gun owner registry, which he disagrees with. “I don’t think the federal government has any business having a list of law-abiding citizens who choose to exercise their right to keep and bear arms,” Cruz added.
However, he said he would support an improvement in the quality of the federal gun database. He also noted we need “common sense” measures like ensuring criminal conviction barriers and mental health barriers to gun ownership.
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First!
crrr6 on May 18, 2013 at 8:32 PM
It’s tough to compete with a corrupt Santa Clause.
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 8:33 PM
Missed by that much :)
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 8:34 PM
Put there by Obama with a bonus to say…
Job well done..
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 8:35 PM
I am still waiting for another shoe to drop, the sharing of Federal data with OFA so they could target areas better for the election.
rob verdi on May 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM
This IRS thing gets creepier by the minute. It makes me feel so good they are going to be in charge of our healthcare.
Thank goodness I never go to the doctor.
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 8:39 PM
I don’t know why anyone is surprised, it’s simply the Chicago Way writ large.
JimK on May 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM
Drudge’s editor tweeted a couple days ago that there was one more shoe.
Not sure if it fizzled but maybe there is the smoking gun ready to go.
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 8:41 PM
Had seen all of the other articles except this one, and it is worth reading the whole thing to put in perspective the existential damage caused by these scandals .
AesopFan on May 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM
Lololol, Charles. A fatal problem for Obama is if he continues to take GOP hacks like yourself seriously.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM
You better shut up..
You better not dissent…
You better not protest…
I’m telling you why..
The IRS is coming to town…
It’s making a list..
And checking for key words…
Gonna find out who’s supports Obama or not…
The IRS is coming to town…
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 8:43 PM
What ? There is no evidence yet that Obama was involved ?
Really ?
If it is true, why TF is the woman of IRS who targeted TEA Partiers is now the one dispensing Obamacare in the same IRS ?
Why is she not being punished by Hussein ?
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 8:44 PM
“They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner…”
Somehow I believe that Obama knew what was about to drop with the IRS and AP and was already on damage control. These criminals belong in prison.
Someone go interrogate tax cheat Geithner about what he knew before he flew the coop (just before Treasury was informed by IG that an investigation was coming). How long was the IG on discovery prior to that warning? Put them all under oath.
Philly on May 18, 2013 at 8:44 PM
Last!
annoyinglittletwerp on May 18, 2013 at 8:44 PM
Take a deep breath. You are getting hysterical.
Count to 10 on May 18, 2013 at 8:46 PM
One more thing GOP
Bengha-Zzzz: Hillary Clinton’s Approval Rating Ticked Up A Point During Benghazi Hearings
http://www.mediaite.com/online/bengha-zzzz-hillary-clintons-approval-rating-ticked-up-a-point-during-benghazi-hearings/
So continue the show trials. It’s been fun to watch.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 8:47 PM
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 8:42 PM
If Zero had accomplished 1/10th of what that ‘hack’ has accomplished…
annoyinglittletwerp on May 18, 2013 at 8:47 PM
Glad to see you all glee for a woman that doesn’t give a shit about you or me..
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 8:49 PM
The only thing that would kick Miller out of his arrogant “you can’t touch me” attitude would be to pull his pension and stick him with an enormous fine with the condition that he give up the goods and tell the damn truth.
Without pain there is no truth to be seen..
katy on May 18, 2013 at 8:49 PM
Just my 2¢
There are an Imelda Marcos’s closet full of shoes still to drop.
The SCOAMF Administration is the child of the Daley Machine. They CHOSE the thug life.
And the AP scandal was allowed out to scare the hell out of anyone thinking of dropping another shoe.
PolAgnostic on May 18, 2013 at 8:50 PM
Shouldn’t you be at your cub scout meeting right now looking for a date?
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 8:51 PM
Worth reading.
Barred on May 18, 2013 at 8:52 PM
Oh I agree with you.
Hopefully there is our generation’s Deep Throat to blow this sucker sky high.
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM
S.E. Cupp is a nitwit.
jawkneemusic on May 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM
America has already been killed. We are living in the American Socialist Superstate. The only solution is a national divorce and restoring our Constitutional foundation in the new nation. This one is toast. Thanks, in part, to idiots like this worm at the WSJ who want to do away with the concept of national sovereignty, erase our borders, and devalue citizenship until it’s nothing but a back-breaking burden for those dumb enough to have it.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 8:53 PM
Missed your post…
Barred on May 18, 2013 at 8:54 PM
DirectorBlue has a fabulous list of Bat face, I mean Ogabe’s accomplishments.
President Barack Obama’s Complete List of Historic Firsts [Updated]
Yes, he’s historic, alright.
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 8:54 PM
So much pride in this man.
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 8:55 PM
Now we know how so many people in his administration dodge their taxes with impunity, eh?
justltl on May 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Yeah. That’s gonna leave a mark…
JohnGalt23 on May 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM
.
Facists worship Il Duce (whoever he or she may be) and view everyone and everything as expendable.
Just like Maher, this troll has no values, no conscience and no shame.
Those of you who respond to it are only lending credibility to an evil agenda.
PolAgnostic on May 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM
As long as she prevents me from someday calling these current crop of GOP hacks Mr. President, I’m good.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 8:58 PM
She will certainly prevent you from enjoying prosperity and liberty, but we can safely assume that is what a pillow-biter like yourself would prefer. slave.
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM
I smell a tax revolt. Actually I pray for a tax revolt. A big, fat national tax revolt that is so devastating that the 16,000 plus armed IRS agents simply can’t handle the massive numbers…
katy on May 18, 2013 at 9:01 PM
I think it is time for another all star studded party at the white house. A night of high entertainment curtsy of Hollywood’s best.
Cracked Crab & Lobster for everyone!
We are going to stream it live so the tax payers can see what they are getting for their most expensive welfare recipient in history!
No choice of K-Y or Vaseline just bend over and pay for the evening and your audit… ;)
Tilly on May 18, 2013 at 9:02 PM
HAHAHAHAHA…you’re a petty little pervert who won’t be good until everyone is brought down to your level. You’re a slimey slug that crawls on it’s belly in the middle of the night and if I came across you, I’d step on you with the heel of my shoe.
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:03 PM
Ever wonder how Hussein and Killery and thier anti-American anti-national fascist blind worshippers celebrated the assasination of 4 Americans in Benghazi ?
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Karl Denninger has had it.
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 9:04 PM
No. It’s people like you that are doing the best they can to prevent peace loving Americans from enjoying liberty and prosperity.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM
http://blogs.reuters.com/jackshafer/2013/05/16/why-the-underwear-bomber-leak-infuriated-the-obama-administration/
It hadn’t occurred to me until I had read and thought about this part:
.
… in context of the Russians “burning” not just the klutz with a wig but the CIA station Chief in Moscow …
… perhaps some of the SCOAMF Administration scandals are being fed by foreign intelligence organizations willing to undertake some “regime change” of their own.
Fascinating possibility, eh?
PolAgnostic on May 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM
“What Difference Does It Make”
THIS PART YOU DON’T KNOW, BUT SHOULD.
AMERICAN VALOR, BENGHAZI, LYBIA:
The stunning part of this story is that Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty killed 60 of the attacking force.Once the compound was overrun, the attackers were incensed to discover that just two men had inflicted so much death and destruction.
The news has been full of the attacks on our embassies throughout the Muslim world, and in particular, the deaths of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others in Benghazi, Libya.
However, there’s a little known story of incredible bravery, heroics, and courage that should be the top story.
So what actually happened at the U.S. embassy in Libya? We are learning more about this every day. Ambassador Stevens and Foreign Service officer Sean Smith, along with administrative staff, were working out of temporary quarters due to the fact that in the spring of 2011 during the so-called Arab Spring, the United States cut ties with then president Moammar Gadhafi. Our embassy was looted and ransacked, causing it to be unusable. It is still in a state of disrepair.
Security for embassies and their personnel is to be provided by the host nation. Since Libya has gone through a civil war of sorts in the past 18 months, the current government is very unstable, and therefore, unreliable
A well-organized attack by radical Muslims was planned specifically targeting the temporary U.S. embassy building. The Libyan security force that was in place to protect our people deserted their post, or joined the attacking force. Either way, our people were in a real fix. And it should be noted that Ambassador Stevens had mentioned on more than one occasion to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, that he was quite concerned for his personal safety and the welfare of his people. It is thought that Ambassador Stevens was on a “hit list.”
A short distance from the American compound, two Americans were sleeping. They were in Libya as independent contractors working an assignment totally unrelated to our embassy. They also happened to be former Navy Seal’s.
When they heard the noise coming from the attack on our embassy, as you would expect from highly trained warriors, they ran to the fight. Apparently, they had no weapons, but seeing the Libyan guards dropping their guns in their haste in fleeing the scene, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty snatched up several of these discarded weapons and prepared to defend the American compound.
Not knowing exactly what was taking place, the two Seal’s set up a defensive perimeter. Unfortunately Ambassador Stevens was already gravely injured, and Foreign Service officer, Sean Smith, was dead. However, due to their quick action and suppressive fire, twenty administrative personnel in the embassy were able to escape to safety. Eventually, these two courageous men were overwhelmed by the sheer numbers brought against them, an enemy force numbering between 100 to 200 attackers which came in two waves. But the stunning part of the story is that Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty killed 60 of the attacking force. Once the compound was overrun, the attackers were incensed to discover that just two men had inflicted so much death and destruction.
As it became apparent to these selfless heroes, they were definitely going to lose their lives unless some reinforcements showed up in a hurry. As we know now, that was not to be. I’m fairly certain they knew they were going to die in this gun fight, but not before they took a whole lot of bad guys with them!
Consider these tenets of the Navy SEAL Code:
1) Loyalty to Country, Team and Teammate,
2) Serve with Honor and Integrity On and Off the Battlefield,
3) Ready to Lead, Ready to Follow, Never Quit,
4) Take responsibility for your actions and the actions of your teammates,
5) Excel as Warriors through Discipline and Innovation,
6) Train for War, Fight to Win, Defeat our Nation’s Enemies, and…
7) Earn your Trident every day
Thank you, Tyrone and Glen. To the very last breath, you both lived up to the SEAL Code. You served all of us well. You were courageous in the face of certain death.
And Tyrone, even though you never got to hold your newborn son, he will grow up knowing the character and quality of his father, a man among men who sacrificed himself defending others. Dr. Charles R. Roots
Senior Pastor
Former Staff Sergeant,
USMC Captain,
U. S. Navy Chaplain Corps (Ret.)
Bengha Zzzzz indeed. HILLARY GAINED A POINT!!!! WEEEEE Now you know why most posters here think you are a douchebag hack.
VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM
Which is why the IRS is expecting “Homeland Security” (SS Leader) Janet Incompetano to have all that ammunition ready should the peons not go into the shackles willingly.
viking01 on May 18, 2013 at 9:07 PM
If the Obamanation gives a campaign speech to Schrodinger’s cat, is the cat dead or alive?
Old Country Boy on May 18, 2013 at 9:07 PM
You don’t pay a mortgage or rent, a car payment and bills do you?
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 9:07 PM
I see the IRS+ OBcare ad’s for 2014,
already.
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 9:08 PM
Totally OT but better than talking to the troll.
Does anybody have a Nook glow touch and do you like it?
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 9:09 PM
So prosperity comes in the mail in the form of a EBT card?
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 9:09 PM
says the dipstick who outed the Dr who located Osama and then ended up in a paki prison !
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 9:10 PM
and lotion !
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM
GG-my dad does..likes it.
all I can tell ya.
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM
Here here
Philly on May 18, 2013 at 9:11 PM
Thanks!
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM
The emotional impact of Benghazi was probably this: if he could do this to Stevens and to SEALs, then he could do it to anybody.
What I would like to know is were the drones that gave live feeds from Benghazi armed or not,I would like proof either way.
http://nation.foxnews.com/benghazi/2013/04/12/obama-intel-director-pentagon-drones-were-libya-benghazi-attack
If you note the drones in this photo appear to be armed. Is it routine to send them out unarmed?
rodguy911 on May 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM
@gg
sure. wish I had more! lol
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM
He’s an affirmative action twofer, black and gay. He doesn’t have to do anything but Be and everything is handed to him on a silver platter just for being who he is.
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM
You cannot reason with the unreasonable.
Nice job drawing and quartering him never the less…
Tilly on May 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM
There is always that option of moving to one of those African third world countries you know. You can get away with not paying a dime in taxes there.
Over here in the USA, some of us still don’t mind paying for the good roads and security we get from our government.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:14 PM
By living my life, obeying the law, paying taxes, and being productive?
You mad.
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 9:15 PM
Yeah right. Like you’ve ever carried your own weight even to the welfare office.
viking01 on May 18, 2013 at 9:16 PM
Peggy,
If Americans don’t believe tomorrow will be better than today, they stop being Americans. People have farmed land just to get a house built; they believed their children would be able to start with both the land and the house. They were right, their children did, and we moved forward. Without this attitude, we’re European.
Without confidence that you will give me fish and chips for my fiver, I stop accepting fivers in exchange for work. The currency breaks down. I stop saving for a rainy day. I stop investing. I stop.
The word you want is pessimism, not cynicism. People aren’t being cynical. The people you are describing are hopeless, not unreasonably suspicious of other people’s motives.
Can you tell them things will be better tomorrow, or not?
Here’s your summary:
. . . So, I suppose not.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 9:16 PM
But some of us don’t like paying twice as much for half the goods..
Why some just sit on their butts waiting for EBTs..
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:13 PM
Him too?
Or same..LFD’s sock?
Lots of black,gay trolls.
errr phumft.
What up homie? Got me a burn at the beach today.
Crap waves but gorgeous day and evening.
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM
The article said they were unarmed and just for surveillance.
Barred on May 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM
And you are the fool who continues paying for those EBT benefits while b!tching on HA aren’t you?
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:18 PM
Oh I dunno. A Randy Weaver on every corner would be too much for any federal agency to handle.
When they go after just one. It’s easy.
katy on May 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM
The Democratic Party are, at their very heart, anti-Liberty. And in their very mind and very soul, they are anti-prosperity…
JohnGalt23 on May 18, 2013 at 9:19 PM
Are him and LFD the same person?
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 9:20 PM
Yep..
There’s a box right on my 1040 that lets me fill in the amount I want to contribute..
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM
Why bother. I’m there.
Speaking of taxes… are you up to date on your quarterly 1099 payments from Media Matters
katy on May 18, 2013 at 9:23 PM
Hey!! Didn’t beach it today…floated in my ghetto pool with a couple drinks and cigs. I don’t go to the beach on the weekend…too many aliens make it like Coney Island.
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM
But you are quick to subsidize the big oil and big defense companies by paying their portion of taxes correct? Until I hear a good argument as to why you would rather pay their portion of taxes while crying a river over the measly ebt benefits the unfortunate are getting, I will never take you folks seriously.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Slight correction
Barred on May 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM
LFD: on meds but cheap generics.
HAL: completely off his meds
nonbrain: Ain’t no capsule strong enough.
viking01 on May 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM
HAL you’re boring. Nothing new.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 9:26 PM
the first time i read these paragraphs at The Blaze…honestly i thought this person must be a nut. But actually, not so much. San Diego State, WSJ and King’s College…not so much
this has been mentioned in the comments at least once at HA, but I don’t think i’ve seen it in the headlines etc. It is a story of nasty people…machine people harassing a woman of letters…harassing her so that she’ll stfu
these are the golden days for the left…the thrill of power running thru their whole body. And, no, there’s really no reason to think that HAL or any of the lefties that troll here are children in their mother’s basement.
more likely they are much like the rest of us, at least middle aged, except that they are unreconstructed leftists…probably working for the Feds…or some not for profit.
if you haven’t yet, read the blaze story…this is who they are
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/15/exclusive-prominent-catholic-prof-claims-irs-audited-her-after-speaking-out-against-obama-and-demanded-to-know-who-was-paying-her/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Hendershott
r keller on May 18, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Straw.Zzzzzz.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM
Coinkadinkally, Libfree and HAL are both supposedly black/gay/professors…weird huh? Although HAL purportedly lives in DC Dupont Circle and Libree has not divulged his location.
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM
The depraved mind of the liberal, guided by the seven deadly sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony. Calling good evil and evil good. The fools are illogical and don’t get cause and effect relationships. They are like bratty 5 year olds. Gimme Gimme Gimme.
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 9:28 PM
A lazy parasite is not someone ” unfortunate”
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM
It starts with folks like you..
You vote?
Your friends?
If you want prosperity..
You better work at it..
Not vote for it..
And spread the message..
Simple..
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM
and Libree has not divulged his location.
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM
u apparently missed a few things…
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM
HAL’s a welfare whore . That is quite obvious.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM
It’s ok honey we dont take you to seriously either.
I think your mother is calling you up from the basement for dinner. You might want to hurry along.
Tilly on May 18, 2013 at 9:30 PM
VegasRick great post!
As you know Woods and Doherty were killed when they lit up a lazer they had.The terror types intercepted their lazer signal and they were killed. I’m wondering if Woods and Doherty had assumed that the drone in the area was probably armed and they wanted to light up where the terror types were located?
rodguy911 on May 18, 2013 at 9:30 PM
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Cool.
I have family in town…took them to a local spot.
Was chill.
Few drinks myself and cigs.
Your my type of person. :)
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 9:31 PM
A bus station restroom somewhere IIRC. Can’t remember if he said which one.
viking01 on May 18, 2013 at 9:32 PM
it usually does not respond to me anyway and that is fine by me. Loser gubmint sucking whore. Heartless no morals and a coward.
VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 9:34 PM
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Hey eejit!
Oil companies already get to keep very little of each $ they make. Most of it goes to big gov.
annoyinglittletwerp on May 18, 2013 at 9:34 PM
By the way, no one and I mean no one who works hard and pay taxes enjoys seeing lazy people take advantage of our welfare system.
Unfortunately, the problem we have with conservatives is that they are quick to excuse the so called “job creator” from paying their fair portion of taxes. Ironically, these same cons dont mind driving on the good roads they refuse to pay for though.
Then they b!tch and moan about wasteful spending. How the heck do you have any credibility with cutting unnecessary spending when you all cherry pick what your definition of unnecessary spending is.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:34 PM
Do you think these Big Oil companies make their profits and then throw it under a big mattress?
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Warn a girl will ya – I was drinking when I read this. Now I have to go clean up my computer screen.
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM
EXACTLY! They are real pros. They did not “light up” the bad guys without “KNOWING” that there was a drone to react. That is why barky and the other murderers are so afraid of this crime they commited. Please God, let the truth come out.
VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 9:37 PM
What’d I miss??? lol…I miss quite alot lately, it’s called senility. Back in the 60′s I tried to be a cool hippy chick, that didn’t last very long. Life slapped me upside the head and I quickly was brought down to earth. People like HAL and the rest of them need a good slap.
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 9:38 PM
This is what happens when you vote for a community organizer with no experience to be the leader of a nation. He is an absolute failure and therefore yes, you could call him a cancer of the presidency. Were going to need a noble man of great character and scruples to replace him, because he will have a lot of work to do to make the people trust this government again. Romney may not have been the most popular GOP candidate, but we’d be in better shape now if he’d been elected. Honesty goes a long way in leading a country.
scalleywag on May 18, 2013 at 9:38 PM
HAL and can you please quit being dishonest about the reality of corporations?
Just quit.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 9:39 PM
Another day, another HA thread polluted by troll turds.
farsighted on May 18, 2013 at 9:39 PM
I never suggested he was a child at all.
And I resent being referred to as “middle age”…lol ;)
Tilly on May 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM
Aaaawwww….now c’mon…didn’t you see the excuse about why welfare whors are welfare whors ?
They are welfare whors because oil companies and defense companies don’t pay their fair share of taxes .
So parasites have to get on welfare and mooch off the taxpayers.
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM
The irony.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM
Yes I do. No biz owner with a brain starts a company simply to create jobs. They start companies to benefit themselves and their shareholders. Hiring is a necessary evil.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 9:41 PM
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