Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on January 6, 2013 by Allahpundit

The White House is weighing a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence than simply reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition, according to multiple people involved in the administration’s discussions.

A working group led by Vice President Biden is seriously considering measures backed by key law enforcement leaders that would require universal background checks for firearm buyers, track the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthen mental health checks, and stiffen penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors, the sources said…

To sell such changes, the White House is developing strategies to work around the National Rifle Association that one source said could include rallying support from Wal-Mart and other gun retailers for measures that would benefit their businesses. White House aides have also been in regular contact with advisers to New York Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg (I), an outspoken gun-control advocate who could emerge as a powerful surrogate for the Obama administration’s agenda…

In addition to potential legislative proposals, Biden’s group has expanded its focus to include measures that would not need congressional approval and could be quickly implemented by executive action, according to interest-group leaders who have discussed options with Biden and key Cabinet secretaries. Possibilities include changes to federal mental-health programs and modernization of gun-tracking efforts by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

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The White House and gun control supporters are gearing up for a whirlwind month, with plans to pass reform legislation before outrage over the Sandy Hook massacre has a chance to fade

Boston mayor Thomas Menino, co-chair of Michael Bloomberg’s Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told the Boston Herald this week that an optimistic Biden had assured him that Obama would sign legislation “by the end of January.”

“We had been led to believe their report would come by end of January, but we’re hearing they may want to have something out by January 15, even quicker than expected,” Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, told TPM…

Glaze acknowledged the NRA has long held an advantage not only in its cash resources, but in its large and active grassroots membership, which has rallied in the past to whip members of Congress against gun control bills. For gun control advocates, they’ll have to offer a compelling case that lawmakers who squelch reforms will pay a price in the midterm elections and that means building their own active network of supporters. Glaze is confident they can do so, citing recent polls showing restrictions on extended ammunition clips and an expansion of background checks to be popular nationally.

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“It hit me in a way that the others didn’t, and that’s terribly unfair to those other families, but I would not be honest if I said otherwise. This hit me in a way that no other incident has in years,” Casey said in an interview. “I found myself being more emotional about this than virtually anything I’ve ever worked on.”…

Casey’s introspection isn’t a unique tale among normally pro-gun Democrats. Across Capitol Hill, lawmakers ranging from Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia to Rep. John Yarmuth of Kentucky are acknowledging that the Sandy Hook tragedy has, at least for now, left them open to reconsidering measures they once staunchly opposed

It’s not just congressmen who have reexamined their opinions, according to Rep. Tim Holden of Pennsylvania, a normally pro-gun Democrat whose campaign received a contribution from the NRA’s political arm during the 2012 cycle. “I was just talking to my brother a couple of hours ago, and he’s a much more avid hunter than I am; and he was, like, something’s gotta happen here,” he said.

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I recently visited some Latin American countries that mesh with the N.R.A.’s vision of the promised land, where guards with guns grace every office lobby, storefront, A.T.M., restaurant and gas station. It has not made those countries safer or saner.

Despite the ubiquitous presence of “good guys” with guns, countries like Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Colombia and Venezuela have some of the highest homicide rates in the world…

Scientific studies have consistently found that places with more guns have more violent deaths, both homicides and suicides. Women and children are more likely to die if there’s a gun in the house. The more guns in an area, the higher the local suicide rates. “Generally, if you live in a civilized society, more guns mean more death,” said David Hemenway, director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center. “There is no evidence that having more guns reduces crime. None at all.”

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“The argument against gun-safety provisions is always, ‘Because it doesn’t solve everything, we shouldn’t do anything.’ And I don’t subscribe to that,” Van Hollen said. “Just because a particular effort won’t prevent … one particular incident, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t do anything that might help in other incidents.”…

In a heated exchange, Van Hollen challenged Jordan to join him in support of background checks for all gun purchases, not just those conducted by licensed dealers. Jordan declined.

“I support it for concealed carry,” Jordan said.

“No, I’m talking about before you can go out and buy a semi-automatic weapon,” Van Hollen said.

“You have to remember what the Second Amendment says,” Jordan responded. “It’s about freedom.”

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Strengthening mental health checks is obviously important, and a national database of gun sales could have some use, particularly for post-shooting investigations, and closing the so-called gun show loophole, as I’ve written before, would at least place a stumbling block before unqualified gun buyers. But unless and until the government comes up with a plan to radically reduce the number of guns in civilian hands (roughly 300 million, and that number is most likely growing at a torrid pace, because discussion of stringent gun control measures sends gun buyers flocking to stores and gun shows), then not too much will change. Which is why I believe law-abiding, screened and trained citizens should be allowed to carry handguns, if they so choose. It’s an unfortunate, but realistic, response (not the only response, of course) to the tragic fact that criminals and the dangerously mentally ill have fairly easy access to weaponry…

The population of concealed-carry permit holders in the U.S. now exceeds 9 million, and this group is responsible for very little crime — they commit crime at a rate lower than the general population, and lower than police officers, and they certainly, as a rule, don’t open fire on anyone who looks threatening. They are not the problem, and concealed-carry generally is not the problem. It may even be part of a solution, until such time as a giant magnet appears over the continental U.S. and sucks into the sky America’s civilian-owned weapons, or until the gun control movement convinces the majority of Americans who believe in private weapons ownership to open a debate about the 2nd Amendment.

In the meantime, I can’t get two Newtown numbers out of my head: 26, the number of people, mainly small children, who were murdered in the school; and 20, the number of minutes it took the police to arrive.

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People will tell pollsters that the widespread availability of certain types of weapons makes the nation more dangerous rather than safer, but they don’t support measures to curtail their use. If Newtown hasn’t pushed the numbers much, why not? One plausible explanation is a lack of trust in the people who would be doing the regulating

We are now approaching four years since the U.S. Senate enacted a budget. The last was in April 2009. And bear in mind that federal law requires an annual budget. Imagine the ire of the senators toward a private firm that treated legal requirements so casually.

Amid such ineptitude, “Trust us, we’ll protect you,” isn’t a very persuasive case to make to the tens of millions of Americans who have guns — often very powerful ones — in their homes. And directing fury at gun owners for their lack of trust isn’t likely to increase their faith in government.

As a general proposition, arguments born of emotion are not likely to be well thought out — or to persuade those not already on board. Yet anger has been very much the style of the case for gun control over the past few weeks.

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The shooter stole the guns from his mother, who passed a background check (Connecticut has that); the guns, being stolen and used rather than resold, would have been effectively invisible to a hypothetical database; the guns were not in fact owned by a mentally unstable, violent person who used them to murder children (they were stolen by somebody who used them for that); and penalties for possession of firearms around schools or by minors obviously had no effect on the shooter (who was, by the way, a legal adult).

Now, I’m not going to tell you that Nothing Will Ever Pass. Politics doesn’t work like that. What I am saying is that initiatives like this reveal pretty comprehensively that the Democratic party is, at bottom, uncomfortable on an institutional level with the very concept of guns. That this tracks pretty well with the march of the New Left through the Democratic party’s institutions is no accident. In 2013 we are going to see the New Left put lots of pressure on recalcitrant Democratic politicians to renounce their affiliation to the basic civil right of self-defense; and while I do not expect Congress to pass any serious legislation along those lines while the GOP controls the House, we are going to see some notable defections among the Democrats. If Obamacare taught us nothing else, it taught us that a Democratic politician is a Democrat first, a Democrat second – and, say, pro-life a distant third.

So I recommend that nobody trust anybody in the Democratic party to keep from mucking with the Second Amendment. They’re a weak reed that will break in your hand. Simple as that.

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Gun control has been a central preoccupation of President Obama’s career ever since his time in the Illinois State Senate (where he famously missed a crucial vote while he was on vacation in Hawaii). During the 2008 campaign, Vice President Biden was dispatched to quell fears of Obama’s agenda on guns: “I guarantee you Barack Obama ain’t taking my shotguns, so don’t buy that malarkey…If he tries to fool with my Beretta, he’s got a problem,” Biden told a Virginia crowd, touting his own gun ownership.

President Obama has also been careful to avoid direct confrontations with those he once referred to as “bitter clingers”–white, working-class, gun-owning, and religious Americans. He voiced open support for gay marriage, for example, only when it had become a sticking point with irked liberal donors in his 2012 presidential campaign.

Now, with re-election out of the way, President Obama has the “flexibility” he boasted of to former Russian President Dmitri Medvedev. And he is prepared to exploit the Sandy Hook killings to the fullest to enact a gun control agenda many decades in the making.

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The Californian picked to lead congressional Democrats’ efforts on gun control says the positions held by some gun rights advocates are unnecessarily divisive, and that government action should go beyond simply outlawing certain weapons…

The phrase “gun control,” Thompson said, is not comprehensive enough for the discussion.

“A lot of times when you talk about gun control, you turn off more than half of your audience,” he said in the interview. Possible solutions can include “everything from the background checks to the assault magazines, the assault weapons, the mental health (system) capacities that we have, our culture of violence that seems to be so overwhelming right now.”

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Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, D-N.D, told me this morning on “This Week” that while all options should be on the table to address gun violence, President Obama’s reported plans to curb shootings are ”way in extreme” when I pressed her this morning on the kinds on measures she could potentially support.

“I think you need to put everything on the table, but what I hear from the administration – and if the Washington Post is to be believed – that’s way, way in extreme of what I think is necessary or even should be talked about. And it’s not going to pass,” said Heitkamp, a member of the National Rifle Association.

Heitkamp, who has an “A” rating from the NRA and was elected in a state that Gov. Mitt Romney won by nearly 20 points, stressed the importance of addressing mental health as part of the effort to curb violent shootings.

***

Asked if there was any new gun legislation he might be willing to approve, Cruz replied, “I don’t think the proposals being discussed now make sense.” Senator Dianne Feinstein, he said, is proposing a national gun owner registry, which he disagrees with. “I don’t think the federal government has any business having a list of law-abiding citizens who choose to exercise their right to keep and bear arms,” Cruz added.

However, he said he would support an improvement in the quality of the federal gun database. He also noted we need “common sense” measures like ensuring criminal conviction barriers and mental health barriers to gun ownership.


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Anti-Control on January 7, 2013 at 1:39 AM

He is somthing else for sure, and no I am not stopping :-P!!

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Goodnight Jackie!! Sleep well!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:44 AM

Good night Jackie!

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 1:45 AM

arnold ziffel on January 7, 2013 at 1:42 AM

Beautiful!!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Here is one by Wyeth.
I always thought it was kind of bad to drop her off and make her crawl back for lunch.

arnold ziffel on January 7, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Best, most profound song ever

Mr. Roboto

Anti-Control on January 7, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Here it comes peoples…

…Get ready for the fight against taking our guns!

President Obama Signs Indefinite Detention Bill Into Law

Sweet dreams!

Seven Percent Solution on January 7, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Anybody like this one?

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 1:50 AM

KCB:

You are seated in your favorite spot of your special place. Close your eyes and relax your shoulders. Slowly tilt your head all the way to the right and then all the way to the left. Bring your head back to an upright position and listen.

You find yourself in a beautiful forest with sunlight trickling down in between the leaves of the trees. The sunlight shifts and disperses as the wind blows through the leaves. The light seems to be changing to colors, blues here, purples there, yellows abound with pinks, greens, and reds popping up throughout. The lights twinkle, dodge and dart throughout the forest.

You sit quietly, waiting, not moving, not making a sound other than your even breath and the steady thump of your heartbeat…

Awaiting the appearance of the nymphs…

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Good night 7%!! ty for the link!!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:52 AM

arnold ziffel on January 7, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Yes it was!!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:53 AM

He is somthing else for sure, and no I am not stopping :-P!!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:44 AM

Ed told me to say this to you, but he says he won’t tell me why: Art Bell: Somewhere in Time returned to January 29, 1999, when remote viewing expert Ed Dames discussed the scary discoveries he made when he remote viewed Satan, whom he’s convinced is real.

Anti-Control on January 7, 2013 at 1:55 AM

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Styx is a great band!! I like the song!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:51 AM

That was awesome. Thank you!

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Are we alone? It is awfully quiet.

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Anti-Control on January 7, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Couldn’t listen to it, I am not an ‘insider’ lol…

Ed sure had some scary things to share most times…

I take all I hear with a good pinch of salt!!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 1:58 AM

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 1:58 AM

I think so…

Unless you holler for Axe, he may come back…

It is late for sure!!

I bid thee goodnight!! God Bless! Sleep well…

See you tomorrow!!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Alan O’Day – “Undercover Angel”

Anti-Control on January 7, 2013 at 2:00 AM

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Nice place to imagine :-)

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Good night Dear! Had a blast. Sparky was in great form.

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 2:01 AM

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Me too!! He is… everyone here that hangs out late nite, are cool beans!! You too!

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Don’t forget the gill…

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Scrumpy on January 7, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Nite Scrumps. I guess I’ll have to summon Axefellow. What would work? Hmmm..I know

*sets off all the flares*

SparkPlug on January 7, 2013 at 2:17 AM

*sets off all the flares*

Aha!!!

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Anyone still here?

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:18 AM

Hi ALT!

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:19 AM

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:19 AM

Just spoke to my brother. got some bad new so I’m processing’ it. before I go back to sleep.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:21 AM

I ran everyone off.

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:21 AM

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:21 AM

Heh.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:22 AM

Bad News? Sorry to hear that.

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:24 AM

I have an ear…

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:25 AM

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:24 AM

I’ve been expecting this call. She’s still alive but things look bad. I’m an Aspie-so I’m not going to fall apart anyway.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:26 AM

Mother is on life support(respirator) after having a massive heart attack. She was w/o oxygen for a looong time.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:27 AM

You are in Texas. Where is she? IL?

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:29 AM

You are in Texas. Where is she? IL?

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:29 AM

Yep.
Bro/sister-in-law live in Valpo. They took her out to dinner and then went to her apt. Sh asked for something and then never came back to the front room. SIL found her. Probably 10/15+ minutes w/ o oxygen.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:31 AM

She’s had 4 strokes. I’ve been expecting this call.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:32 AM

I’m sorry. Are you in a position to make the trip?

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:33 AM

I’m waiting for the same call. Think about it most every day.

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:36 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:21 AM

God Bless you are your family. Prayers ascending.

SparkPlug on January 7, 2013 at 3:36 AM

and

SparkPlug on January 7, 2013 at 3:37 AM

I think I lost you ALT, but my prayers are with you.

KCB on January 7, 2013 at 3:43 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on January 7, 2013 at 3:21 AM

Hey, twerp, I’m so sorry to hear about your mom. I’ll be praying for you.

INC on January 7, 2013 at 4:00 AM

If history has shown us anything it’s shown us that those the socialists would enslave they first disarm.

tommyboy on January 7, 2013 at 5:12 AM

hypocrites….dems wouldn’t say boo about tax loopholes and the such NOW that’s all they want to talk about instead of spending cuts….

man I really despise them…

Good Morning folks!

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 5:39 AM

And just what kind of deep and profound “mental instability” would a man have to be possessed with to furnish Murderous Mexican Drug Gangs with thousands of assault weapons, used to murder hundreds of people, including children, and then pretend that he didn’t know anything about it? Should such a highly disturbed and heartless killer be allowed to have any control of guns whatsoever? I think not, at least in a sane world.

Sandy Hook is the slaughter the fascist was trying to achieve with his Operation Fast and Furious. He needed people murdered with guns he could tie to America. His problem is he lost control of the narrative and had to slither back into the dark for a while when Jaime Zapata’s murder threw a monkey wench in his scheme. Now with the bodies of the children of Sandy Hook, his “strangulation by regulation” can be jammed down our throats, at least he figures so anyway. In Herr Obama we have our First American Tyrant. Seig heil!

VorDaj on January 7, 2013 at 5:51 AM

prayers coming your way ALT….

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 5:54 AM

morning joe defending the hagel nomination natch
he’s a mainstream kind of guy, yada yada yada

blech

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:14 AM

********************* RED ALERT ****************************

You have F`n Got to be Kidding!!

More: President Obama to nominate 25-year CIA veteran John Brennan to directorship during Monday afternoon event – @AP

32 secs ago by editor

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:17 AM

Oh,Top of ye Morning to ye CMS:)

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:18 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:17 AM

cripe

morning

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:19 AM

not one peep from them of the dems who don’t like hagel as well…it’s all gop bashing

turning it off…..

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:21 AM

RE:John Brennan CIA Thingy:

John Brennan says in speech: ‘we have never been and will never be at war with Islam’

Religion & Spirituality
May 26, 2010
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In a

speech

http://csis.org/files/attachments/100526_csis-brennan.pdf

today (May 26, 2010) at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), John O. Brennan, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism, stated that the United States is not at war with Islam. As part of his speech, he made the following remarks:

“…The president’s strategy is absolutely clear about the threat we face. Our enemy is not terrorism because terrorism is but a tactic. Our enemy is not terror because terror is a state of mind and, as Americans, we refuse to live in fear. Nor do we describe our enemy as jihadists or Islamists because jihad is holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself or [sic] one’s community.

And there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women and children. Indeed, characterizing our adversaries this way would actually be counterproductive. It would play into the false perception that they are religious leaders defending a holy cause when in fact, they are nothing more than murderers, including the murder of thousands upon thousands of Muslims.

This is why Muslim leaders around the world have spoken out forcefully and often at great risk to their own lives to reject al-Qaida and violent extremism. And frankly, their condemnations often do not get the recognition they deserve, including from the media.

Moreover, describing our enemy in religious terms would lend credence to the lie propagated by al-Qaida and its affiliates to justify terrorism, that the United States is somehow at war against Islam. The reality, of course, is that we have never been and will never be at war with Islam. After all, Islam, like so many faiths, is part of America.

Instead, the president’s strategy is clear and precise. Our enemy is al-Qaida and its terrorist affiliates. For it was al-Qaida who attacked us so viciously on 9/11 and whose desire to attack the United States, our allies and our partners remains undiminished. And it is its affiliates who have take up al-Qaida’s call to arms against the United States and other parts of the world…” (emphasis supplied)
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http://www.examiner.com/article/john-brennan-says-speech-we-have-never-been-and-will-never-be-at-war-with-islam

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:22 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:17 AM

cripe

morning

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:19 AM

cmsinaz:Morning,……..ahem:)
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Son of Senator Rand Paul arrested at an airport in North Carolina; charged with 3 misdemeanors – @NN

2 hours ago from http://www.click2houston.com by editor
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canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:26 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:26 AM

ruh roh

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:29 AM

The Associated Press ‏@AP

MORE: Brennan, a 25-year CIA veteran, currently serves as Obama’s top counterterrorism adviser: http://apne.ws/UvkXhj -RAS

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_NATIONAL_SECURITY?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-01-07-06-04-39

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:33 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:26 AM

ruh roh

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:29 AM

cmsinaz:(ruh roh)..lol,oh Gawd Andrea Mitchell:)
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canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:39 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:39 AM

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Via:

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23guncontrol
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Gun controlWhite House considering gun-control measures beyond assault weapons ban
Published 7 January 2013

Sources in the White House say the administration is considering a broader and strategy on guns control in the wake of the Newton, Connecticut, mass shooting; the approach being considered will go farther than a ban on certain types of assault weapons; the Biden task force, which will submit its recommendations to President Obama in a few weeks, is leaning toward adoption of measures recommended by the law enforcement community, among them requiring universal background checks for firearm buyers, tracking the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthening mental health checks, and stiffening penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors

Sources in the White House say the administration is considering a broader and strategy on guns control in the wake of the Newton, Connecticut, mass shooting. The approach being considered will go farther than a ban on certain types of assault weapons.

President Barakc Obama has tasked Vice President Joe Biden with heading a task force to examine different policy options, and the Washington Post reports that Biden’s study group is leaning toward adoption of measures recommended by the law enforcement community, among them requiring universal background checks for firearm buyers, tracking the movement and sale of weapons through a national database, strengthening mental health checks, and stiffening penalties for carrying guns near schools or giving them to minors.

Fox News reports that to get around the likely opposition to proposed measures by the National Rifle Association (NRA) and its supporters, the administration may is likely to enlist Wal-Mart and other gun retailers who, in the past, have expressed support for similar measures.(More…)
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http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/dr20130106-white-house-considering-guncontrol-measures-beyond-assault-weapons-ban

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:53 AM

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:39 AM

*shaking the head*

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 6:49 AM

cmsinaz:Another Head Shaker:)
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US nuclear lab at Los Alamos removes Chinese tech over security fears – @Reuters

1 hour ago from http://www.reuters.com by editor
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/07/us-huawei-alamos-idUSBRE90608B20130107

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 6:56 AM

Sssssssoooooooo, the Progressive filth are going to try and use the phrase “Gun SAFETY” instead of Gun control?.

They are evil.

And have been smarter than we.

How about we refer to them as “Dangerous” or “Soul-less” or “Anti-Family”.

What’s a good phrase to describe them that will scare off the moderate/independent voters?

PappyD61 on January 7, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Mixing metaphors here, but it looks like Cloward & Piven nominations while the flying monkeys are shooting flak about other items of concern to freedom-lovers. So what is going to be shoved down The Peoples’ throats while we are distracted and trying to react? “Gird your loins” as MM would say.

indypat on January 7, 2013 at 7:05 AM

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 5:39 AM

About that “surprise on our paychecks…My take.

kingsjester on January 7, 2013 at 7:14 AM

Just remember if they ask for too much…they are likely to get something when it comes to this republican congress. They will try to sneak something in and we probably won’t know about it until it is too late.

tomas on January 7, 2013 at 7:17 AM

About that “surprise on our paychecks…My take.

kingsjester on January 7, 2013 at 7:14 AM

kingsjester:Good Morning:)
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#WhyIsMyPaycheckLessThisWeek because before Nov 6, you were a useful idiot. Now you’re just an idiot.

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 7:20 AM

What’s a good phrase to describe them that will scare off the moderate/independent voters?

PappyD61 on January 7, 2013 at 7:02 AM

PappyD61:Hmmm….:)

Progressive Pilfering Pirates!!

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 7:22 AM

Hmmmm……………

MarketWatch ‏@MarketWatch

Companies with record layoffs in 2012 http://on.mktw.net/13dppac

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canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 7:30 AM

*****Alert ******

Bank of America to pay Fannie Mae $3.6 billion, buy back $6.8 billion in loans to settle mortgage claims – @AP

17 secs ago by editor

canopfor on January 7, 2013 at 7:41 AM

You’re not kidding Canopfor…. the hits keep on coming

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 7:43 AM

UNREAL! BofA Freezes Gun Manufacturer’s Deposits Saying: “We Believe You Should Not Be Selling Guns On The Internet”

On December 29, 2011, Joseph P Sirochman, the owner of American Spirit Arms posted this on Facebook, via Ironic Surrealism.

All,

My name is Joe Sirochman owner of American Spirit Arms and I wanted to share my recent experience with Bank of America .(which we have been doing business with for over 10 years)…. Everyone is familiar with the latest increase in guns sales , dealers selling out of inventory , Manufacturers back logged for months , large revenue all generated in the last two weeks …. American Spirit Arms is no exception to the overwhelming demand . What we have experienced is that our web site orders have jumped 500 % causing our web site E commerce processing larger Deposits to BANK OF AMERICA ..Well, this through up a huge RED Flag with Bank of America . So they decided to hold the deposits for further review , meaning that the orders/payments that were coming in through the web ,( being paid by the customer and that were shipped out by American Spirit Arms ),the BANK was keeping (UNDER REVIEW )..as you could imagine this made me furious…After countless hours on the phone with BANK OF AMERICA I finally got a Manager in the right department that told me the reason that the deposits were on hold for FURTHER REVIEW …HER EXACT WORDS WERE …

..” WE BELIEVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE SELLING GUNS and PARTS ON THE INTERNET “

…I flipped the F**k Out and told them that they have no right to make up their own new rules and regs..that we are a firearms Manufacturer with all the proper licensing FFL (Federal Firearm license ), SOT and that we follow all Federal and All States’ rules and regulations on shipping Firearms and parts ..and that we are also Audited by ATF and Homeland Security on a regular basis … She said that she understands that but that the deposits will be released After they have a chance to review and clear them …I told her that This was unacceptable and the those deposits (that were a week old by now) needed to be released ASAP, that we are a small business and rely on the revenue to run and stay operational.

After that being said another Manager got involved and released one of the deposits (to help out)… So far to date after
two weeks of sales only 1/3 of collected internet sales have been released ..I am still pissed and looking for another bank and options …

I just thought the public should know ..

I will keep everyone posted on new developments ..

Sincerely

Joseph P Sirochman
American Spirit Arms
16001 N Greenway Hayden Loop
Suite B
Scottsdale AZ 85260
480-367-9540 phone
480-367-9541 fax

Blogger Ironic Surrealism reached out to Joseph Sirochman and posted his response.

Resist We Much on January 6, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Axe on January 7, 2013 at 7:48 AM

What’s a good phrase to describe them that will scare off the moderate/independent voters?

PappyD61 on January 7, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Nazis, always seems appropriate.

Cleombrotus on January 7, 2013 at 8:05 AM

FIRST! to comment.

LAST! to voluntarily turn in my guns.

Bishop on January 7, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Great take KJ. :)

cmsinaz on January 7, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Stench.

Bmore on January 7, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Greetings, dear ones!

Marvelous take as usual, KJ!

bluegill on January 7, 2013 at 9:09 AM

a far broader and more comprehensive approach to curbing the nation’s gun violence

Anytime you see that word “comprehensive” grab your wallet your wife and kids or anything else that means anything to you. You are in trouble and the politicians use this word so freely and it means they are on the hunt for something valuable to the populace in general with no good intentions on their part.

Pardonme on January 7, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Sandy Hook is the slaughter the fascist was trying to achieve with his Operation Fast and Furious. He needed people murdered with guns he could tie to America.

VorDaj on January 7, 2013 at 5:51 AM

Completely right. And he’s fervently hoping for another very soon.

rrpjr on January 7, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Again, I want to ask. Can anyone else see how the right to bear arms figures into the current discussion on the national debt? Criminal politicians will have to disarm us soon and prior to them ruining our currency. Otherwise, individual, ordinary citizens may elect to enforce term limits on our corrupt, criminal politicians, Democrats and, ESPECIALLY, LYING RINO REPUBLICANS. Is this what our Founding Fathers foresaw and predicted?

newpine on January 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM

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