Mom shoots intruder, saves kids

posted at 2:01 pm on January 6, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

How many times during the recent gun grabbing debate have you heard these arguments?

Self defense is a bogus argument. Having a gun in your home, you’re more likely to shoot yourself or your spouse than to ever fend off a bad guy. Only trained law enforcement professionals can safely use weapons like that.

May I introduce you to Donnie Herman’s wife

The woman was working in an upstairs office when she spotted a strange man outside a window, according to Walton County Sheriff Joe Chapman. He said she took her 9-year-old twins to a crawlspace before the man broke in using a crowbar.

But the man eventually found the family.

“The perpetrator opens that door. Of course, at that time he’s staring at her, her two children and a .38 revolver,” Chapman told Channel 2’s Kerry Kavanaugh.

The woman then shot him five times, but he survived, Chapman said. He said the woman ran out of bullets but threatened to shoot the intruder if he moved.

The intruder, 32-year-old Atlanta resident Paul Slate, had been out of jail for all of four months or so, one of six arrests since 2008. He fled the house but crashed his car a short distance away and collapsed where he was found on the ground by police. So how is old Paul doing now?

Chapman said they found him on the ground saying, “Help me. I’m close to dying.” Slater was taken to Gwinnett Medical Center for treatment. Chapman said Slater was shot in the face and neck…

Channel 2’s Amy Napier Viteri learned from Chapman late Friday night that slater has been placed on a ventilator and suffers from punctured lungs, a punctured liver and a punctured stomach.

He said if Slater survives the night, doctors will try to operate in the morning to repair the damage.

Chapman said Slater has four exit wounds.

The woman’s husband was short and succinct on the subject.

“My wife is a hero. She protected her kids. She did what she was supposed to do as responsible, prepared gun owner,” Donnie Herman said.

He said he’s thankful for his family’s safety.

“Her life is saved, and her kids’ life is saved, and that’s all I’d like to say,” Herman said.

I don’t have a lot to add to this story beyond highlighting it and opening it up for your consideration and discussion. But I would add one note of caution. Thus far the woman in question doesn’t seem to be talking to the press and that’s her right. Regardless of her success in defending her family, Donnie Herman’s wife has undoubtedly been through a traumatic experience and if she wants to maintain her privacy and not turn this into some sort of circus side show, the media should respect her wishes.

But she can still serve as a useful example as we consider any future Second Amendment questions. Everyone called Wayne LaPierre crazy when he said that the best way to stop a bad guy with a gun was a good guy with a gun. Or sometimes, a good lady with a gun. Food for thought.


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Reason number #300 why Mag capacity bans and semi auto bans WILL get people KILLED. Sometimes 6 is not enough!

Give this woman a freaking medal!

TX-96 on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

YEA Mom… (though it is a damn shame she ran out of bullets)

Jihad in America: The Grand Deception.

SWalker on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

….oh! And a SEMI-AUTO and ” Hi capacity bullet clip ” =D

TX-96 on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Nobody really needs anything more than a .25 ACP.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

The obvious is wasted on the gun grabbers.

Tell this story again and again and it will fall on deaf ears.

FOWG1 on January 6, 2013 at 2:05 PM

….oh! And a SEMI-AUTO and ” Hi capacity bullet clip ” =D

TX-96 on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

She should have used an “assault – bat” when she ran out of ammo.

VegasRick on January 6, 2013 at 2:06 PM

The poor guy, another victim of a handgun.

cozmo on January 6, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Ban him!

Bmore on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Reason number #300 why Mag capacity bans and semi auto bans WILL get people KILLED. Sometimes 6 is not enough!

Give this woman a freaking medal!

TX-96 on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Exactly.

She only missed once hit him in the head, neck and three body shots through the liver, lung and stomach. But he kept on going had he had a gun she would be dead now and her daughters because she only had six rounds.

Steveangell on January 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Ban her!

Bmore on January 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM

She’s a lousy shot. Sure, she hit him five times but he’s still alive.

Donnie Herman’s wife needs to spend more time at the range.

Dack Thrombosis on January 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

I wish all the gun-grabbing trolls weigh in on this.

Let’s see what they got.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

This won’t be a media circus, no news organization will talk about it outside of Fox and local news. It doesn’t fit the progressive narrative.

Rode Werk on January 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Democrats would’ve preferred those kids and mom to be dead with no gun than to be alive thanks to a gun. Why do democrats want dead kids and dead wives?

Weight of Glory on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

With a crowbar.

Drained Brain on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Do we know if a 100 round clip was available?

Bmore on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

A question I had. It does not matter, if he had a gun, she’s fully justified, if not, there is still no question in my mind. I am certain he was not there to deliver a flower-gram. The S.O.B. broke in and sought out the family. Is the motive in question?

FOWG1 on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Nobody really needs anything more than a .25 ACP.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Hear that? Okay from now on all criminals are restricted to .25′s or smaller.
I mean it! There now we’re all alot safer. Of course our goal is gun free for real safety. You know like Chicago. DC.

onomo on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

She’s a lousy shot. Sure, she hit him five times but he’s still alive.

Donnie Herman’s wife needs to spend more time at the range.

Dack Thrombosis on January 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

God works in mysterious ways.

If I were that criminal, I’d be wanting to get myself some religion.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Cause I’m thinking with a 100 round clip for that .38, she could have finished him off.

Bmore on January 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM

VegasRick on January 6, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Would have made for a storybook ending.

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Weight of Glory on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Now you are catching on.

cozmo on January 6, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Nobody really needs anything more than a .25 ACP.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Slater did pretty well with 5 rounds of .38 in him. That is why I have a .45 with critical defense rounds.

She did it perfectly. Barricade and let the perp come to you. There is nothing wrong with responsible TRAINED gun ownership. If you want to buy a gun to defend your family, please, please, please get trained. It is not as easy as point and shoot.

tdarrington on January 6, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Irrelevant. He was an intruder, as you acknowledge.

End of story.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Stories like this makes my little blood pumper feel soooo good! Good for you mom, you did good! She should get the ‘mom of the year’ IMO!
L

letget on January 6, 2013 at 2:16 PM

I wish all the gun-grabbing trolls weigh in on this.

Let’s see what they got.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

They will ignore this story or somehow try to make obambi the hero.

VegasRick on January 6, 2013 at 2:16 PM

I’d be seriously looking at my ammo choice.

claudius on January 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Mm. Good for her. My son is 9. I probably should get a gun and get trained on it so I can protect him if necessary.

Scott H on January 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

In my mind, you don’t need to be armed to get shot if you break into MY house. A sign on the door yells you I have a gun, I will tell you I have a gun, and the racking of the slide should also tell you. After all of that, you are still in my house, coming after my family, you die.

tdarrington on January 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM

They will ignore this story or somehow try to make obambi the hero.

VegasRick on January 6, 2013 at 2:16 PM

I know.

But tweaking liberal noses, even from afar, is a hobby of mine.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:18 PM

this punk was lucky that he was only hit 5 times instead of 6…..

and I am very surprised that he was hit 5 times in the neck/face and he’s not dead

ted c on January 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

So DID the SOB survive the night? The linked story is from last Friday.

Naturally Curly on January 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

homegirl has a 83% hit ratio…..not bad.

ted c on January 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

I’d be seriously looking at my ammo choice.

claudius on January 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM

No kidding. Exit wounds? You need fragmentation and shredding. She did a damn good job of aiming in an intense situation. She may not have hit the heart, but she hit him 5 times.

tdarrington on January 6, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Thus far the woman in question doesn’t seem to be talking to the press and that’s her right.

Very smart cookie. Don’t say a word to the police either beyond what you are required to. What you say can and WILL be used against you by a determined defense attorney.

There are so many legal variables in the deployment of a gun even in the defense of your life and property that even if you’ve screwed up on one you can go to jail.

Talk to your lawyer FIRST.

Cleombrotus on January 6, 2013 at 2:21 PM

this punk was lucky that he was only hit 5 times instead of 6…..

and I am very surprised that he was hit 5 times in the neck/face and he’s not dead

ted c on January 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

My Springfield XDM 9mm has 20 rounds. He would not have made it.

VegasRick on January 6, 2013 at 2:23 PM

The agenda of gun control throughout its history has never changed, its the same as it was anywhere in the world, its to take away or diminish our individual autonomy, and if it’s behind the scenes supporters can use and manipulate anyone outside their circle to help them so much the better.

We’ve seen a methodical, deceptive and determined agenda of attacks eating away our right to life in trade for the false premise that government can protect you, the same people who’s responsibility it was to protect the children and teachers as Sandy Hook Elementary.

These lessons still apply:

“Government begins at the end of the gun barrel.” – Chairman Mao

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one. … Make mass searches and hold executions for found arms.” –V.I. Lenin.

“If the opposition disarms, well and good. If it refuses to disarm, we shall disarm it ourselves.” –Joseph Stalin.

“We are taking the law and bending it as far as we can to capture a whole new class of guns.” – Jose Cerada, (White House official who specializes in gun control policy), The Los Angeles Times

“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans …” Bill Clinton (USA TODAY, 11 March 1993, page 2A)

“Gun registration is not enough. Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal.” – Janet Reno

“Our main agenda is to have all guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort the facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.” Sara Brady, Chairman, Handgun Control, The National Educator, January 1994, Page 3.

Speakup on January 6, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Why do democrats want dead kids and dead wives?

Weight of Glory on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

No, no, no. It’s an end to a means. You can’t be enslaved until you are disarmed. They thought they could do it with dead Mexicans but we caught them at that. Now they just have to find carnage where possible and the press does the rest.
If democrats were just happy with dead kids and wifes, you’d think Chicago would quench their thirst. Once everyone is on the dole, from cradle to grave, they will come extremely unglued (think a spoiled little soon to be majority of takers )once the really cool fiats kick in and we look similar to old soviet or modern north korean utopias, so we have to be disarmed and fast.

onomo on January 6, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Being the part time Range Safety Officer at our local gun club, and having the opportunity to supervise a few police shoots. Man police officers are unsafe with any gun. Yet the liberidiots want us to defer for them for self defense. NO WAY.

stephana on January 6, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Thus far the woman in question doesn’t seem to be talking to the press and that’s her right.

They have to ask a question before she can answer it, and the press isn’t interested in this.

Ronnie on January 6, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Nobody really needs anything more than a .25 ACP.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Not sure if you’re serious but I’ll bite. The .38 revolver she was using was technically too small. Better than nothing obviously but it barely got the job done. She fired all 6 shots and hit 5 times in the neck and face area and still the guy was able to run away.

What if he was armed?

What if there was more than one intruder?

Handguns, even large caliber ones are all technically “underpowered” so the more and bigger the better because sometimes even good shot placement isn’t enough as this guy was still able to run after being hit in the face.

Yakko77 on January 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Thus far the woman in question doesn’t seem to be talking to the press and that’s her right.

FOWG1 on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

A good defense attorney (the bad guy’s, not hers) will try to make the case that there was some other way she could have avoided shooting him. She’ll have to show that there was a reasonable expectation that her life or the lives of her children were in danger.

Cleombrotus on January 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Cleombrotus on January 6, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Isn’t that the truth. They will find some reason to charge with something.

Can’t go screwing up Obama’s mojo right now.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Dack Thrombosis on January 6, 2013 at 2:11 PM

This, plus, the scum will cost the system fortunes to keep him breathing. The leftist scum will make him into the martyr.

May they all be destroyed.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

A question I had. It does not matter, if he had a gun, she’s fully justified, if not, there is still no question in my mind. I am certain he was not there to deliver a flower-gram. The S.O.B. broke in and sought out the family. Is the motive in question?

FOWG1 on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

He was armed with a crowbar, she and the kids had retreated to the attic, he sought them out. As someone on another blog stated, he didn’t go looking for them to ask for help moving the flatscreen out to his car. Textbook justified shooting. Too bad she didn’t have a semiauto and “high capacity” magazine. After this experience, bet that’s next on the family shopping list.

AZfederalist on January 6, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Yakko77 on January 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM

yeah, sorry, It was sarc, but I once got the direction of the tag wrong (/ \) and some lib crucified me for it.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:29 PM

yeah, sorry, It was sarc, but I once got the direction of the tag wrong (/ \) and some lib crucified me for it.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Good sarc. doesn’t need tags.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Why do democrats want dead kids and dead wives?

Weight of Glory on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Murdered people are mere vehicles for liberals to advance themselves.

The day of Sandy Hook, the liberal trolls were among us, attacking us without mercy. All those liberals did was make sanctimonious politics, when we Conservatives sought to do no more than grieve and make sense of it all.

The trolls–liberals–didn’t join us in our mutual and collective hurt. They couldn’t spare one single minute with us, those horrid ghoulish monsters that they are.

The trolls that day showed their true personal nature and the face of liberalism.

Yet they somehow wonder why we disdain them.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:35 PM

1. “Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not.”~Thomas Jefferson

2. “Those who trade liberty for security have neither.” ~ John Adams

3. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.

4. An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

5. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them.

6. Gun control is not about guns; it’s about control.

7. You only have the rights you are willing to fight for.

8. Know guns, know peace, know safety. No guns, no peace, no safety.

9. You don’t shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.

10. Assault is a behavior, not a device.

11. 64,999,987+ firearms owners killed no one yesterday.

12. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights Reserved.

13. The Second Amendment is in place in case the politicians ignore the others.

14. What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ do you NOT understand?

15. Guns have only two enemies; rust and politicians.

16. When you remove the people’s right to bear arms, you create slaves.

17. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.

FREE CITIZEN “I love this country, it’s the government I’m afraid of”

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Who shot the shot?

Bmore on January 6, 2013 at 2:36 PM

How was she able to defend herself with a mere revolver?

Pablo Honey on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

I never thought I would want this but, where are the trolls?

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

MSN had a story on this and they called her a trigger happy Mom. After more information came out they changed it a little.

I live in Georgia and I know somewhat of this area. It is a bit off the beaten path. I’m thinking he saw her and her children at a store and followed her home. The police need to look at this guy’s background real close. He sounds like her knew she was home.

jeannie on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

this punk was lucky that he was only hit 5 times instead of 6…..

and I am very surprised that he was hit 5 times in the neck/face and he’s not dead

ted c on January 6, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Yet the story said he has punctured lungs. Wonder how you get that from being hit in the face. The media in this country are completely unreliable.

AZfederalist on January 6, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Why do democrats want dead kids and dead wives?

Weight of Glory on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

For the same reason Islamists and Palestinians do the best to ensure lots of dead civilians every time they start a war–propaganda material. I believe that every progressive was ecstatic when they heard about the Newtown atrocity. Great material for advancing an agenda that will result in more deaths–which in turn will provide further propaganda for advancing the agenda.

Conservatives make the same mistake of projection that progressives do, just in the opposite direction. Progressives always assume everyone is as hypocritical, envious, and malevolent as they are. Conservatives, sadly enough, tend to assume that progressives actually have standards and are as fundamentally well-intentioned as they are.

iconoclast on January 6, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Sorry folks – great story, but this never happened because it won’t be shown on E! Entertainment news, the Daily Show or the Colbert report, not to mention ABC, NBC, CBS or CNN.

It just didn’t happen……

famous amos on January 6, 2013 at 2:39 PM

How was she able to defend herself with a mere revolver?

Pablo Honey on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Speed Loaders. Get ‘em while you still can

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:40 PM

How was she able to defend herself with a mere revolver?

Pablo Honey on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

She almost wasn’t able to defend herself. A couple more misses or a second attacker and it would have been all over.

iconoclast on January 6, 2013 at 2:40 PM

A question I had. It does not matter, if he had a gun, she’s fully justified, if not, there is still no question in my mind. I am certain he was not there to deliver a flower-gram. The S.O.B. broke in and sought out the family. Is the motive in question?

FOWG1 on January 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM

The homeowner was justified in using lethal force, regardless of whether or not the criminal who broke into her home had a gun or other weapon. Based on a quick Google search, it appears Georgia has a strong castle doctrine, which gives a homeowner the right to use lethal force to defend their home against an intruder. This homeowner retreated to her attic before using lethal force on the crook, but she had no legal duty to do so. Under Georgia law, she had the right to use lethal force on him as soon as he forcibly entered her home.

AZCoyote on January 6, 2013 at 2:41 PM

MSN had a story on this and they called her a trigger happy Mom. After more information came out they changed it a little.

I live in Georgia and I know somewhat of this area. It is a bit off the beaten path. I’m thinking he saw her and her children at a store and followed her home. The police need to look at this guy’s background real close. He sounds like her knew she was home.

jeannie on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

What I want to say to the story you related would get me banned from HotAir.

How about this: the MSM out the political affiliation of of criminals. If they don;t have one, they are immediately considered Democrats.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Time to graduate to a .40cal or 9mm semi with 11 or 15 shot clip. More stopping power and more bullets ought to take care of the next home invader – permanently. That will save the medical system and courts an incredible amount of time and money. Could be a bamacare cost saving initiative.

Danno on January 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

With, at the very least, a crowbar.

Plus, univited, and in their house.

massrighty on January 6, 2013 at 2:44 PM

OK Mom. It’s back to the range for you. You should have finished him off with the second round! (Just kidding.) nice work!

oldleprechaun on January 6, 2013 at 2:45 PM

She deserves an upgrade.

tom0508 on January 6, 2013 at 2:45 PM

How was she able to defend herself with a mere revolver?

Pablo Honey on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Ever see a .38 round? If hit with one of those, it’s gonna hurt. Real bad.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:46 PM

See, this is the problem with gun control. Had she had, say, 20 rounds in that magazine, we would be saved the health care costs to save this piece of crap.

Shump on January 6, 2013 at 2:47 PM

“In all this ruckus…I kinda lost count myself..
Did I shoot 5 times…or six..
Do you feel lucky…
Well..
Do ya punk?”

A hollywood movie being played out in real life..

Good for the mom…

Electrongod on January 6, 2013 at 2:47 PM

She deserves an upgrade.

tom0508 on January 6, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Let’s all chip in to get her a Desert Eagle in .50 cal.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Making me think of getting a bigger gun.

Meryl Yourish on January 6, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Irrelevant. He was an intruder, as you acknowledge.

End of story.

In the twisted mind of a liberal, he’s not an intruder, but rather an UNINVITED GUEST… sort of like those illegal aliens…I mean undocumented immigrants.

poxoma on January 6, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Does it matter? No.

Ronnie on January 6, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Ummmm…where are the trolls?

I want HAL, libfreeordie, and lostmotherland in on this.

Where, oh where art thou?

Enlighten us with your excellence, please! I confess at long last—we need you!

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Ever see a .38 round? If hit with one of those, it’s gonna hurt. Real bad.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:46 PM

She must have been using that cheap FMJ crap the libs hate so much. Anthing with exposed lead would not have left 4 exit wounds.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM

How was she able to defend herself with a mere revolver?

Pablo Honey on January 6, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Luck.

Ronnie on January 6, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Joe Manchin’s proposal to limit the maximum number of rounds to the 3 he uses at most when deer hunting would have gotten children killed.

Dusty on January 6, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Was the intruder armed?

exdeadhead on January 6, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Unfrickenbelievable! This woman saved the lives of her children and herself and you have the temerity to ask that question.

I really won’t wish that this guy visits your house next, really I won’t.

D-fusit on January 6, 2013 at 2:54 PM

In the twisted mind of a liberal, he’s not an intruder, but rather an UNINVITED GUEST… sort of like those illegal aliens…I mean undocumented immigrants.

poxoma on January 6, 2013 at 2:49 PM

I think you mean “guest workers”, don’t want to give a negative connotation. /s

AZfederalist on January 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Ever see a .38 round? If hit with one of those, it’s gonna hurt. Real bad.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Five hits and he’s not dead — time to upgrade.

Ronnie on January 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM

I and others mentioned this story on HuffPo yesterday, and were told that statistically that mom was more liable to shoot herself or her family than a bad guy. So that’s one of their stock responses. Of course that study was long ago debunked as applying mainly to criminal families.

juliesa on January 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM

AZCoyote on January 6, 2013 at 2:41 PM

As Mr. Burns would say, “Ehhhhhxcellent”.

Cleombrotus on January 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM

She must have been using that cheap FMJ crap the libs hate so much. Anthing with exposed lead would not have left 4 exit wounds.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM

God gave that criminal a second chance. He better use it wisely.

As for the woman and her children, God preserved her and she has the respects of normal, mentally-healthy Americans.

Liberals, however, see the criminal as the victim.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Joe Manchin’s proposal to limit the maximum number of rounds to the 3 he uses at most when deer hunting would have gotten children killed.

Dusty on January 6, 2013 at 2:53 PM

DID HE REALLY SAY THAT? I can’t even think of a rifle that only takes 3. Even a bolt.

Maybe he crawls around in the woods with his duck gun.

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I’d be seriously looking at my ammo choice.

claudius on January 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM

That’s what I wondering too. Maybe .38+P hollow points would have made a difference.

petefrt on January 6, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Five hits and he’s not dead — time to upgrade.

Ronnie on January 6, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Proof she had no intention to kill, when the criminal and his liberal lawyer sue for ‘violation of civil rights’.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Good point. And I apologize for jumping on the .25 remark. It fit too well with the “was the intruder armed” question.
But don’t you ever call me a lib.

onomo on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM

A warning from Pravda

Russian Pravda Warns Americans: Never Give Up Your Guns
Friday, January 4, 2013 12:21

…To this day, with the Soviet Union now dead 21 years, with a whole generation born and raised to adulthood without the SU, we are still denied our basic and traditional rights to self defense. Why? We are told that everyone would just start shooting each other and crime would be everywhere….but criminals are still armed and still murdering…

While President Putin pushes through reforms, the local authorities, especially in our vast hinterland, do not feel they need to act like they work for the people. They do as they please, a tyrannical class who knows they have absolutely nothing to fear from a relatively unarmed population. This in turn breeds not respect but absolute contempt and often enough, criminal abuse.

For those of us fighting for our traditional rights, the US 2nd Amendment is a rare light in an ever darkening room. Governments will use the excuse of trying to protect the people from maniacs and crime, but are in reality, it is the bureaucrats protecting their power and position. In all cases where guns are banned, gun crime continues and often increases. As for maniacs, be it nuts with cars (NYC, Chapel Hill NC), swords (Japan), knives (China) or home made bombs (everywhere), insane people strike. They throw acid (Pakistan, UK), they throw fire bombs (France), they attack. What is worse, is, that the best way to stop a maniac is not psychology or jail or “talking to them”, it is a bullet in the head, that is why they are a maniac, because they are incapable of living in reality or stopping themselves.

The excuse that people will start shooting each other is also plain and silly. So it is our politicians saying that our society is full of incapable adolescents who can never be trusted? Then, please explain how we can trust them or the police, who themselves grew up and came from the same culture?…

So, do not fall for the false promises and do not extinguish the light that is left to allow humanity a measure of self respect.

by Stanislav Mishin
Pravda

NightmareOnKStreet on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Reason number #300 why Mag capacity bans and semi auto bans WILL get people KILLED. Sometimes 6 is not enough!

Give this woman a freaking medal!

TX-96 on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Exactly! Limiting mag capacity just limits your ability to protect/defend yourself. This story is a perfect example of why arbitrarily placing limits on capacity is just plain horse sh*t.

dugan on January 6, 2013 at 3:01 PM

So, like…Where are the trolls? The thread is about guns, and liberals always come here to argue about guns.

Where are the trolls?

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM

My current HDG is a Glock 31C loaded with 15 Winchester Ranger T 357 SIG rounds and with the Glock tactical light mounted. If I fired at someone 6 times, indoors, I am confident that they would be dead, and that I would be deaf. I’ve been thinking of going to my S&W 686+, loaded with subsonic 38s. Does anyone know of a subsonic 38 round that has good expansion at the lower velocity?

claudius on January 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Guns are the equalizer for women against male criminals. I’m sure he could have killed her and her kids even if he didn’t have a crowbar. Libs’ gun control is the real ‘war on women’.

HellCat on January 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Leftist gun-grabbing = A War On Women.

visions on January 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM

But don’t you ever call me a lib.

onomo on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM

I didn’t. I don’t kick my dog either.

by Stanislav Mishin
Pravda

NightmareOnKStreet on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Has he been seen lately?

Oh well. Time to run to Cabelas and buy a couple bricks of .25

WryTrvllr on January 6, 2013 at 3:04 PM

I am so going to use the absence of liberal trolls on this thread against them.

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 3:06 PM

NightmareOnKStreet on January 6, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Sad when Russian media makes more sense than our own.

AZfederalist on January 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Guns are the equalizer for women against male criminals. I’m sure he could have killed her and her kids even if he didn’t have a crowbar. Libs’ gun control is the real ‘war on women’.

HellCat on January 6, 2013 at 3:03 PM

1. Find, (if you can) Ann Coulter’s excellent piece “Ruger is a girl’s best friend.”

2. Where, Oh Where, are the calls for Crowbar control?

massrighty on January 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM

I have a .38, I thought it would do more damage than that.

Night Owl on January 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Food for thought.

More than food for thought. Proof positive.

rrpjr on January 6, 2013 at 3:08 PM

So, like…Where are the trolls? The thread is about guns, and liberals always come here to argue about guns.

Where are the trolls?

Liam on January 6, 2013 at 3:02 PM

At the shooting range…
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Electrongod on January 6, 2013 at 3:10 PM

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