Can Kansas make a sperm donor cough up child support?

posted at 9:31 am on January 6, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

There’s a rather strange case brewing out in Kansas right now involving a man being sued by the state for child support. That, in and of itself, is sadly not all that unusual in modern society, but this one has a twist. The guy was a sperm donor. But that’s not the only twist in an increasingly complicated tale.

If you’re planning to donate sperm in Kansas, you may want to do it through a doctor.

That’s one message from the case of William Marotta of Topeka. In 2009, he noticed a Craig’s List advertisement from a lesbian couple, also in Topeka, seeking donated sperm.

“Intrigued” by the ad, he agreed to donate and says he delivered three cupfuls of his sperm — gratis — to the women, one of whom gave birth to a daughter.

So first… ewww. Thanks, CNN, but that might fall into the “Too Much Information” category. But getting beyond that, the tale goes somewhat off the rails. As part of the, er… arrangement… Mr. Marotta and both of the lesbian parents sign an agreement where he gives up any custodial rights to the future child and is absolved of responsibility. He departs the scene and the couple proceed to conceive.

The lesbian couple breaks up after having the baby and the mother finds herself in dire financial straights. She applies for public assistance and receives payments. Then, as part of the state’s usual routine, they attempt to track down the father – not the mother’s “ex” because gay marriage is constitutionally banned in Kansas – and nail him for $6,000 to cover the assistance she received and demands he start making child support payments.

My first reaction here was that the guy was totally being screwed over by the system. Editorials were posted saying that the laws in Kansas were out of date and needed to be changed. But the longer I thought about it and considered the side of the story being put forward by the state, the less sure I became of my initial reaction.

First, both the lesbian couple and Mr. Marotta messed up quite a bit from a legal perspective. The agreement they signed was totally private and never involved a court or a lawyer. The artificial insemination was done at home with no doctor ever being involved. Yes, I understand that the process is extremely expensive in a doctor’s office and lawyers aren’t cheap, but there was no paper trail to document their agreement. Under Kansas law, if the women had used a doctor who noted that it was a donor situation, Marotta would have been off the hook. And it seems to me – as a layman – that if they had at least gone to court to get some sort of formal donor agreement documented before the fact, he would stand a better chance in court today. As things stand, it looks as if he will lose.

But even more to the point, perhaps the current state of the law serves as a barrier against abuse. If this type of arrangement was allowed to stand, could any guy who got a woman pregnant later show up claiming to be a “donor” in a he said, she said situation? Or what if Marotta was the father, but had threatened the mother with harm if she contradicted his story to the police? (Mind you, I’m not saying that’s the case here at all, but in some other set of circumstances, you could see some real jerk doing that.) It just seems to open the door to all manner of abuse.

In the end, this is a very sad situation for Mr. Marotta, but if he and the lesbian couple had done the proper leg work to check into the applicable laws and get everything documented properly, he wouldn’t have this problem. I’m no longer sure that all of the outrage over this story is justified.


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Obamanitis is contagious!

Resist We Much on February 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Meh, why not? Obama blames America for everything, they might as well jump on the bandwagon as well.

ButterflyDragon on February 24, 2013 at 11:08 AM

They’d do even better to blame the “intelligence community” or “Congressional Republicans”.

forest on February 24, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Well, the first thing I thought was “Why not blame America? It’s working for Obama!”

It appears to be a common reaction.

novaculus on February 24, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Impossible.

I was told that if Obama was elected, the whole world would love America.

sentinelrules on February 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM

“If I had a son..He would look like a Russian”

Electrongod on February 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

This enmity will work well for both the Russian and U.S. regimes.

Under Russia’s thugocracy things will always be bad and will always get worse. The rulers need an outside bogey on which to pin all evil.

The U.S. is in the process of becoming a Greece/Russia hybrid and is in the same boat. Plus we need a new enemy to get the public eyes off all the islamic violence. So that new enemy is Russia.

Seems like old times…

ROCnPhilly on February 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM

After all, this is the same Russia where parliament member Vladimir Zhirinovsky claimed that the recent meteor strike was actually the United States “testing new weapons.”

It’s that Cheney doomsday machine, HAARP, at work again. /s

chemman on February 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Twitter should be banned… Seriously.

The lies being spread by its users and believed by millions is devastating!

There comes a time when technological advances are just a bad idea.

Scrumpy on February 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Hey, why not blame America for everything wrong with the world? I have, too, ever since the 2008 election and 2012 re-election of the monster Hussein and the Marxocrats transformed this country into the sh*thole that it has become. And an American that could do such a thing, twice, certainly deserves all the blame that can be heaped on it.

blackelkspeaks on February 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Remember, Russia has always been and will always be our enemy.

ThePrez on February 24, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Where did these commie b@st@rds learn this crap?? For the first time in their lives – commies can be proud of our country

drivingtheview on February 24, 2013 at 11:50 AM

…what a surprise!…the Russians are looking to JugEars…as a mentor!

KOOLAID2 on February 24, 2013 at 11:53 AM

. As it turns out, nobody knows for sure what happened to the boy, Max Shatto, though an investigation is underway. He was apparently playing with friends on the playground when he collapsed and later died

…(from the White House)……the boy acted stupidly !

KOOLAID2 on February 24, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Twitter should be banned… Seriously.

The lies being spread by its users and believed by millions is devastating!

There comes a time when technological advances are just a bad idea.

Scrumpy on February 24, 2013 at 11:44 AM

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Nope, sorry ….. the Anti-Christ needs it for future “world dominion”.

listens2glenn on February 24, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Drats! When you kill something, make sure it’s dead!

unclesmrgol on February 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

We can probably expect to see more of this. After all, this is the same Russia where parliament member Vladimir Zhirinovsky claimed that the recent meteor strike was actually the United States “testing new weapons.” I suppose that whole,
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Yup,I do remember watching the hysteria,roll in,from the Reds,
er,Pinko’s!!

Russian politician joins conspiracy theorists, blames meteor explosion on US military – @verge

Feb 17, 2013, 2:39 p.m. from http://www.theverge.com by editor
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Leader of Russia’s far-right parliamentary group claims explosion was not a meteor but a US weapon test – @Guardian

Feb 15, 2013, 5:49 a.m. from http://www.guardian.co.uk by editor
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/russian-meteor-shower-2013

canopfor on February 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

…what a surprise!…the Russians are looking to JugEars…as a mentor!

KOOLAID2 on February 24, 2013 at 11:53 AM

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I think you’ve got that reversed.

listens2glenn on February 24, 2013 at 12:01 PM

And I’m worried about the Russians why? Just another third world country that copies the ideas of others, they Ain’t S**t anymore, Baby Kim with nicer cars is all they are,
Bob

Bobnormal on February 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM

In retrospect, this probably won’t come as too much of a surprise. Last month we talked about the allegations in Russia regarding American adoptions of Russian children and the supposed “rampant abuse” which follows.
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Russia seeks return of adopted child after brother dies in U.S. – @BloombergNews

Feb 20, 2013, 1:43 p.m. from http://www.bloomberg.com by editor
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/russia

canopfor on February 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM

We can probably expect to see more of this. After all, this is the same Russia where parliament member Vladimir Zhirinovsky claimed that the recent meteor strike was actually the United States “testing new weapons.”

Where’s this poor, dumb bastard been? He should know, by now, that one of our media elite has exposed global warming as the culprit. But, then again, the United States is responsible for that, too. So, maybe ol Vladimir is right, but for the wrong reason.

The true Russian complaint about America -

“Americansky Presidentsky ees mooch moore Communistsky than ees Dear Leader, Putinsky.”

- Commie on the street.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 24, 2013 at 12:03 PM

The Russians often adopt out their worst-of-the-worst children–the ones whored out by their mothers for drugs and booze, the years-long-untreated autistics who bang their heads against the floor half the day—kids so broken they are almost un-fixable by the time they are in the States and adopted by their families.

Poor Max Shatto could have been one of those broken children, but Russia needed a poster child on why they are forbidding foreign adoptions.

Sekhmet on February 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Leader of Russia’s far-right parliamentary group claims explosion was not a meteor but a US weapon test – @Guardian

Feb 15, 2013, 5:49 a.m. from http://www.guardian.co.uk by editor
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http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/russian-meteor-shower-2013

canopfor on February 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

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What the blessed HANG is a “far-right parliamentary group” in Russia ?

listens2glenn on February 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM

My wife is Russian by birth so I have paid attention to Putin for many years now. I constantly answer questions from Russians through my wife of Anti-American news stories. I have explained for years that Putin has tried to create boogeymen to convince Russians they need a strong man like him. It also prevents Russian from viewing America as superior to Russia and keeps Russia from demanding the kind of lifestyle they see in America and the West. Simply put this kind of mirage was similar to the one created by the Communist to keep the peasants happy with the state of affairs in Russia. Lastly this kind of American enemy thing creates the kind of Nationalism that Putin uses to maintain power.

Conan on February 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM

After all, this is the same Russia where parliament member Vladimir Zhirinovsky claimed that the recent meteor strike was actually the United States “testing new weapons.” I suppose that whole, “Tear Down This Wall” moment couldn’t last forever, eh?

At least the Ruskies didn’t blame it on Global Warming!

LevinFan on February 24, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Conan on February 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Yeah, my wife was born in the Ukraine, came here at the age of six.

I like to joke with her that she’s really an underground spy :) .. which always goes over well.

LevinFan on February 24, 2013 at 12:15 PM

We were getting along better before Shrillary gave them her reset button.

Was that an embarrassing policy failure, or what?

petefrt on February 24, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Conan on February 24, 2013 at 12:08 PM

And it’s age-old.

Hitler used it. The Jews, et al.

Stalin used it. The Kulaks, et al.

Mao used it. The Campaign to Suppress Counterrevolutionaries and the Cultural Revolution.

Obama is using it. The “rich.” The “clingers.”

There must always be an enemy of the people, to blind the people to their true enemy.

OhEssYouCowboys on February 24, 2013 at 12:19 PM

RESET! Smart Power!

RadClown on February 24, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Russia has had a long history of anti-Western sentiment. Much of the anti-semitism is based on the view that the Jews are Western “rootless cosmopolitans” who will corrupt the nation.

I remember reading a debate between Solzhenitsyn after the collapse of the Soviet Union where he insisted that the anti-western thoughts were imposed upon the people by communism. It wasn’t native to the nation. Others pointed to the history of anti-western writers before the 1917 revolution.

In any case, after nearly a century of anti-US and anti-Western propaganda those views aren’t going to disappear in 20 years.

SteveMG on February 24, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Russia has never changed; they are still the enemy. They rebranded themselves to dupe really stupid low-information liberals. Better marketing of the same Red menace.

Philly on February 24, 2013 at 12:56 PM

“Twitter should be banned… Seriously.

The lies being spread by its users and believed by millions is devastating!”

Then get off your ass and start countering the truth instead of whining…

Jabba The Cat on February 24, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Silly Russki; That’s President Choom’s job.

RoadRunner on February 24, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Blaming America works for Comrade O and America’s libs and lefties.

Howard Zinn wrote a “How-to” book on it — A People’s History of How Evil America Has Always Been. Or something like that.

The anti-western multi-culturalists blame all ills on Western Civ, most exemplified in modern times by the USA — AKA The Great Satan, etc.

The Soviet Union did, too. So there is nothing new in Russia blaming America. I’m surprised someone thinks they actually stopped. At best it was only a temporary pause.

farsighted on February 24, 2013 at 1:04 PM

canopfor on February 24, 2013 at 11:59 AM

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What the blessed HANG is a “far-right parliamentary group” in Russia ?

listens2glenn on February 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM

listens2glenn:You’ve got me!?:)

canopfor on February 24, 2013 at 1:18 PM

They’re just jealous of our free press.

*ahem*

(That doesn’t need a /s, does it?)

Fallon on February 24, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I blame this Obama thug. Too many vacations, not enough diplomacy. Russia was never one of our allies but they haven’t sounded this crazy for decades.

Zorro on February 24, 2013 at 3:47 PM

What do Communists and liberal socialists have in common? THIS!

I’m surprised the Democrat Party didn’t thank Pavel Astakhov for his support of their ideals.

More Barack 0bamov anyone?

DannoJyd on February 24, 2013 at 4:47 PM

Bear in mind that there isn’t ‘a Russia’: you’ve got a lot of Russian parties working at cross-purposes and some of them find blaming America useful, but it’s not the bad old days of one Party and one Party policy.

The wild card in US-Russian relations is the tremendous openness the Internet provides: Forty years ago Russian and American average-joes knew only filtered versions of how the other lived, but today there are literally tens of thousands of amateur YouTube videos of life there, and even more of life here. That doesn’t automatically translate to Kum-Baya (a lot of the YouTube commentary is remarkably ugly, especially about who did what in WW2) but it’s something that takes absolute control of the public away from the politicians.

PersonFromPorlock on February 24, 2013 at 5:04 PM

It’s that Cheney doomsday machine, HAARP, at work again. /s

chemman on February 24, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Don’t forget the chemtrails.
They’re poisoning everybody everywhere/

Badger40 on February 24, 2013 at 5:44 PM

I suppose that whole, “Tear Down This Wall” moment couldn’t last forever

Certainly not with so many people after Reagan furiously working to build it back up again.

DrAllecon on February 24, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Slow news day Jazz?

woodNfish on February 25, 2013 at 1:57 PM