Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on January 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

In the first closed-door meeting of the Republican majority in the new Congress, newly reelected House Speaker John A. Boehner on Friday promised a robust fight with President Obama to cut spending in exchange for raising the nation’s debt limit.

The Ohio Republican doubled-down on his insistence that there must be at least a dollar-per-dollar match between spending reductions and continued borrowing.

“With the cliff behind us, the focus turns to spending,” Boehner said, according to a source in the room who requested anonymity to discuss the private meeting. “The president says he isn’t going to have a debate with us over the debt ceiling. He also says he’s not going to cut spending along with the debt limit hike.”

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Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.) called for spending cuts and entitlement reform in the GOP weekly address on Saturday.

Camp, who chairs the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, said Democrats have not been wiling to put real spending cuts on the table in deficit-reduction negotiations, including the most recent talks to avoid the “fiscal cliff.”

“That position is irresponsible and fails to acknowledge what every family in America already knows – when you have no more money in your account and your credit cards are maxed out, then the spending must stop,” Camp said.

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[W]hat is Obama going to do when he reveals his budget next month? What is his position going into budget showdowns over the course of his second term? There’s still room for him to push for more taxes, but he has conceded setting the threshold for increased income taxes at $400,000 instead of $250,000. If he wants to avoid new tax increases on 98-99 percent of households, and has already raised $617 billion, there’s an upper limit to how much additional revenue he could propose. Maybe he can come up with another few hundred billion, or approach $800 billion, by getting rid of various deductions and loopholes in the tax code. But there isn’t much room beyond that. The few hundred billion in savings he could theoretically find by tweaking mandatory programs and health care in a way Democrats may be able to swallow would largely be offset by the stimulus spending he still wants to push. It’s harder to argue that intransigent Republicans are standing in the way of deficit reduction when most of his deficit reduction proposal has already been enacted.

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The truth of course is that it’s Congress that has incurred the debts, not the president. The only reason the president appears to be in the position of being the one seeking the increase is that any sitting administration (its Treasury Department) is the one that actually has to pay the bills. That’s a pretty sweet deal for Congress. They run up the bills, and then, when the president asks them for the money to pay off the bills that they incurred, they say no!

Obama, in my memory, never once pointed this out in 2011, but he has already done so this time around: “I will not have another debate with this Congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they’ve already racked up through the laws that they passed,” he said on New Year’s night, after the House passed the cliff bill.

He needs to bang this home with an intensity like it’s October in a presidential campaign. First and foremost, he has to get the business world on his side, such that they’re willing at least privately to come down on the Republicans like a ton of bricks. In 2011, these titans had to hedge their positions because most of them were hoping a Republican president would be elected the next year. But Obama is in the captain’s chair for four more years. There’s no political point to such hedging now.

Second, he should use the State of the Union to drive home the absurdity of the situation, and the outrageousness of it. He needs to turn and face the assembled Republicans and say directly to them: “You fooled me once in 2011. I won’t get fooled again. No negotiating means no negotiating.”

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So there are the GOP’s choices:

1. Give Obama his way on the debt ceiling, in which case the USA accelerates towards becoming Greece and the GOP become pointless as a political party.
2. Fight but cave, as they have done so often, in which case the USA accelerates towards becoming Greece and the GOP become pointless as a political party.
3. Find a way to throw the steering window out of the window of their car.
4. Convince Obama that they really are crazy (like a fox).

In the long run, options 3 and 4 are not just brave politics but also good economic policy…

The last time we went through this exercise, I counseled the GOP not to play chicken with Obama. But when facts change, I change my opinions. It’s become clear that Obama and the Democrats cannot be trusted to cut spending. It’s become clear from what Obama and Schumer are saying that the Democrats are going to insist on turning the debt ceiling into a chicken game.

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For conservatives, all of this should come as a relief. With Mitt Romney’s defeat in November, most recognize that any big deals favoring their positions are impossible. Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton, and there is no hope of a grand center-right bargain with him, let alone the Democratic Senate. Obama, Boehner, and Reid are not going to cut a deal on entitlement reform in the way Clinton, Newt Gingrich, and Trent Lott made a deal on welfare reform in 1996. But to say that there will likely be no big breakthroughs means that the left can expect to be stultified as well.

The Beltway punditocracy will, of course, bemoan gridlock. But the blame is misdirected. Our system of government is designed to impede reforms not backed by a broad majority, and the country remains deeply divided. While most Americans agree that the status quo is unacceptable, there is no consensus on what to do about any major issue. Thus, for the next two years, we should expect Washington to accomplish little.

Unfortunately, all of this is a consequence of the last election. Conservatives had hoped to provide the public a clear contrast on the issues of spending, taxes, and economic growth, and that the electorate would come down definitively on one side or the other. The people declined to do that, and the result of their demurral will be at least two more years of stagnation.

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Democrats want more revenue so that the entitlement system doesn’t have to be reformed, while Republicans want to reform the entitlement system so that the government doesn’t have to take up more of the economy. This means that doing a good deal of each at the same time would not give both parties what they want—it would give both parties what they are trying to avoid.

A grand bargain with far higher taxes in return for a thoroughly transformed entitlement system would give each party the means it is after but at the cost of the end it is after. That would be a foolish bargain for both of them. They would rather do nothing, and so in fact they have done nearly nothing—reaching agreements to put off deadlines and avert self-inflicted pain but otherwise not changing the basic fiscal circumstances much. These tiny steps are worth taking, but they do not address the underlying problem. Since our deficits and debt grow larger in the meantime, there will always need to be another deadline set, and another crisis scheduled, but it is hard to see why those should turn out much differently, at least as long as either party has the electoral power to stop the other.

At some point, in other words, the fiscal question dividing the parties will be decided by voters. It will likely not happen in some dramatic fashion with one decisive election fought over the future of America, but in the normal and gradual course of our politics. It may even happen by accident—after an election fought mostly on other issues that gives one party or another enough control of the elected branches to advance its fiscal reforms. Until then, both parties will likely continue their defensive efforts, and seek whatever modest incremental steps are possible in an era of divided government.

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President Obama can make a better argument. Congress has given him an impossible task: to implement a large number of costly public projects with less money than those projects cost. If he cuts spending, then he violates constitutional norms that give Congress the power to determine spending. If he raises revenues by borrowing or trying to tax people, then he violates constitutionals norms that give Congress the power to borrow or tax. In the face of contradictory instructions from Congress, the president can’t avoid choosing—by virtue of his administrative role as collector and disburser of revenues, the president must do something. Where Congress fails to provide him with consistent instructions, he has the discretion to do what he believes is in the public interest. If the economy were to be on the point of collapse, he could cite emergency powers sanctified by tradition as his authority for borrowing beyond the debt ceiling on his own. But a less drastic argument is that the power to resolve conflicting congressional orders is inherent in the president’s administrative role. Indeed, presidents frequently face conflicting statutes as they govern, and they have long enjoyed a great deal of discretion in resolving them…

[F]or government to function, the dysfunctional institutions within it must give way. The president has spoken softly for long enough; now it is time for him to wield the big stick and raise the debt ceiling on his own.

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We still need to do more to put Americans back to work while also putting this country on a path to pay down its debt. And our economy can’t afford more protracted showdowns or manufactured crises along the way. Because even as our businesses created 2 million new jobs last year – including 168,000 new jobs last month – the messy brinksmanship in Congress made business owners more uncertain and consumers less confident…

And as I said earlier this week, one thing I will not compromise over is whether or not Congress should pay the tab for a bill they’ve already racked up. If Congress refuses to give the United States the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy could be catastrophic. The last time Congress threatened this course of action, our entire economy suffered for it. Our families and our businesses cannot afford that dangerous game again.

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“We blame politics — always [saying] Washington is all dysfunctional,” Brooks said. “They’re responding reasonably efficiently to what the American people want, which is to take the future’s money and spend it on ourselves. … So I do think it starts with the American people.”

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arnold ziffel on January 6, 2013 at 12:44 AM

Be careful – that c/b a combination of songs related to the link and history of what you watched on youtube over time.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 12:48 AM

I shan’t impose…

Poor Sparky how tragic…

Blenders and straw just don’t mix well… must have been horrific…

Scrumpy on January 6, 2013 at 12:50 AM

SparkPlug on January 6, 2013 at 12:46 AM

:)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Give me a manly scot in a kilt every time and I’ll melt!!

Scrumpy on January 6, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Indeed.

A Highlander in full regalia is an impressive site – any Highlander, no matter how old, ill-favored, or crabbed in appearance. A tall straight-bodied, and by no means ill-favored young Highlander at close range is breathtaking.”

alwaysfiredup on January 6, 2013 at 12:51 AM

alwaysfiredup on January 6, 2013 at 12:43 AM

I have no problem as long as you have one or the other..Otherwise it might as well be a lead ballon..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 12:52 AM

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Entranced he is…

Under the spell of his Goddess…

I stand corrected :-)

Scrumpy on January 6, 2013 at 12:53 AM

A Highlander in full regalia is an impressive site – any Highlander, no matter how old, ill-favored, or crabbed in appearance. A tall straight-bodied, and by no means ill-favored young Highlander at close range is breathtaking.”

alwaysfiredup on January 6, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Ohhhhhhhhhhh I feel a swoon coming on!!

Scrumpy on January 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM

In a Glade

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Very nice, Amazon is fixin to get more of me money.

arnold ziffel on January 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

And on that last note!

I shall retire to my bed and dream of Highlanders!!

Goodnight everyone!!

Sweet dreams to all!!

Gods blessing on you all…

Scrumpy on January 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

full regalia

alwaysfiredup on January 6, 2013 at 12:51 AM

??

!

Tim_CA on January 6, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Goodnight Scrumpy!

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Wow. Nice. (:

SparkPlug on January 6, 2013 at 12:58 AM

*sip*

This place gets so weird.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 12:58 AM

‘Nite, Scrumpy! ‘Nite, everyone.

Resist We Much on January 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Nite Scrumpy

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Goodnight RWM!

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

In a Glade

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM

How beautiful. You’ve found our theme music. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Nite Sophie – recharge well, for tomorrow they’ll resurface.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Scrumpy on January 6, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Goodnight, charming sprite! I’ll see what I can do about bringing a few Highlanders to the glade, just for you. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:01 AM

‘Nite, Scrumpy! ‘Nite, everyone.

Resist We Much on January 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Night RWM!

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM

Resist We Much on January 6, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Gooednight, RWM. Congratulations! Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:02 AM

This place gets so weird.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 12:58 AM

I know..Ain’t it cool!!..:)

PS..Bonus points if you can guess the movie that line came from..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM

How beautiful. You’ve found our theme music. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

The the elves and pixies might have to assure the rights :)

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM

PS..Bonus points if you can guess the movie that line came from..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM

*blows fingers*

I can see Travolta. :)

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:04 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 12:58 AM

LOL. Cloudy with a chance of Meatballs.

SparkPlug on January 6, 2013 at 1:05 AM

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Are we allowed to???..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM

LOL! Our glade, our rules! Besides, legally, all you have to do is change every ninth note, or so, and it’s considered new material.

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:05 AM

This place gets so weird.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 12:58 AM

Irony, thou art indignant.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:06 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:04 AM

+ 100..Damn you are good..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:06 AM

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Liberté

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Absolutely! When it’s quiet and still, I wade in, to my waist, and bath there. I carry my enchanted sword with me, and place it, point first, into the sandy bottom, with the hilt just under the water, where no one can see it, in case of any untoward, and unruly, intruder. I let the pure water and the moonlight wash over me until I am renewed and refreshed.

I heartily recommend it! :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

+ 100..Damn you are good..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:06 AM

The fact that we can both do that is sad. :) I guess it’s sad. It can’t be good.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Just so, well said.

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Axe, just for you

“Something’s just not quite right about this environment” :)

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:11 AM

I let the pure water and the moonlight wash over me until I am renewed and refreshed.

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Let’s focus and expand on this part…lol

Hey Jackie!

Tim_CA on January 6, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Absolutely! When it’s quiet and still, I wade in, to my waist, and bath(e) there. I carry my enchanted sword with me, and place it, point first, into the sandy bottom, with the hilt just under the water, where no one can see it, in case of any untoward, and unruly, intruder. I let the pure water and the moonlight wash over me until I am renewed and refreshed.

I heartily recommend it! :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Caution – Sparky is sometimes one of the green frogs.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:14 AM

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Let’s focus and expand on this part…lol

Hey Jackie!

Tim_CA on January 6, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Liar. What you really were thinking

Absolutely! When it’s quiet and still, I wade in, to my waist…

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM

Tim_CA on January 6, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Bonnet, shirt, plaid, brooch, kilt, belt, sporran, hose, brogues, sword and knife.

Mmmm-mmmm.

alwaysfiredup on January 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM

Well. I can see Spring is going to be rough.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Ladies’ Night

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Ribbitt.

SparkPlug on January 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:16 AM

lol…Hey!! I need the moonlight to friggin’ see what’s goin’ on!

I’m old dammit.

Tim_CA on January 6, 2013 at 1:20 AM

Well. I can see Spring is going to be rough.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Fertile times for fertile imaginations.

SparkPlug on January 6, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:22 AM

Schadenfreude sits at the edge of a copse of silver birch trees near the pool’s edge opposite the waterfall.His chair is carved from the trunk of an ancient oak and blackened and polished with time. He has a sweeping view of the glade. He smiles, knowingly, in genuine amusement. There is a sparkle in his eyes. He is trim and fit and wears a tunic of lightest gold weave. His leggings match the tunic, and his boots are of soft, charcoal colored leather. The top of the boots, nearest his knee, are embossed with the symbols of the four elements. He carries a sword of gleaming steel, inlaid with gold, in a scabbard crafted by the silver guild, black leather overlain with silver tracery. It hangs from a buckler of black leather with silver clasps.

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:25 AM

Just for Axe

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:25 AM

Caution – Sparky is sometimes one of the green frogs.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:14 AM

LOL! Duly noted, thanks! :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:26 AM

Last one tonight

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:25 AM

Dear lady all that gold has to be platinum :)

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

“And today, Anastacia?” the old man asked, then brought his soup spoon beneath his white mustache. His eyes never left some point beyond his bowl that only he could see.

“Today, I went back to the glade,” she began uncertainly.

“Enough,” he said, putting his spoon on the table.

“But papa, it’s real. I really went — ”

“Enough!” he bellowed. “If all you can do is imagine, then you will starve, Nastia! You cannot eat imaginary food! I will prove it to you. Go to your room.”

“Papa!”

“Go. To. Your. Room!”

Her room was empty. When she moved around her things, it felt full, because it was the place of her things. But tonight, Anastacia moved though the empty air, the nothingness between her things, and it was cold. She went to her window and looked down into the garden.

Something moved.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Sorry, Axe, here’s the link, on the “Just for You

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Hello Miss Jackie.

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:32 AM

Progressive Rock.

(from 4 decades ago)

Tim_CA on January 6, 2013 at 1:33 AM

Tim_CA on January 6, 2013 at 1:33 AM

And still awesome! Thanks!

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM

Ken wears a vest of darkest green suede with a shirt woven of the finest light grey silk. His leggings are dark grey leather and his boots are green suede, matching the vest. Around his waist is a leather belt, dark grey, studded with silver, the sigil of the moon carved into the silver buckle. He carries a bow of the finest yew, with a quiver of silver arrows slung across his back. On his left wrist he wears the archers leather guard in dark grey leather. His hair is pulled back in a pony tail, tied off with a cord of grey. He laughs as he dances with the nymphs and dryads.

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Alas my friend, I am back on my tiny island but I see that my companions are still out there, would that I have joined you earlier in the evening to have some fun.

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Sorry, Axe, here’s the link, on the “Just for You“

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Perfect. :)

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:36 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Conjured and done! Platinum suits you! :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:36 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Ah… ‘something moved’…. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Alas my friend, I am back on my tiny island but I see that my companions are still out there, would that I have joined you earlier in the evening to have some fun.

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Good to hear from you MF.

We’re having some fun when time flies, as you can see.

Be well and safe, always, with best regards.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Platinum suits you! :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:36 AM

Tailor-made :)

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:39 AM

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:34 AM

Blushing a little…

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:39 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM

Thank you my friend, I have been watching you as I was on leave, you had me a bit worried, so dark at times, glad the lighter side has shown back up, but hey when one hangs out with the likes of Axe, how can one not have a lighter side.

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:40 AM

Alas my friend, I am back on my tiny island but I see that my companions are still out there, would that I have joined you earlier in the evening to have some fun.

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Only for a time. :)

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Yonder, beneath the spreading boughs of the oak tree, Dire has organized the pixie orchestra and they’re playing THIS.

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Something moved.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:29 AM

Too bad Scrumpy and RWM are gone.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:42 AM

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:39 AM

A kiss, light as dew, on that rosy blushing cheek.:)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Yes indeed, and Mrs. MarshFox(not her real name) is excited about that! BTW you may become a character in her next book, she thought you were quite the wit:)

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:44 AM

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:40 AM

Not to worry, friend. Same ol’ schadenfreudig self. During the day, and sometimes at night, I just don’t suffer fools.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Ah… ‘something moved’…. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM

It was a giant frog! — in a silver, pointy princess hat! — lol — that 4Grace was too good to wear!

“Spark! It’s Spark!” Anastacia said breathlessly. And even as she said it, Spark Plug leaped into the open beneath the moonlight and looked up at her. Seeing her, he hopped in place one time and croaked a long, loud croooooaaaakkkkk.

The little girl was so happy she hopped in place herself, clapping and laughing. Then she ran through her door and down the empty stairs.

*to be continued*

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Magic..

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Progressive rock from the late sixties. I wasn’t born yet but the music had more soul then I think.

smoothsailing on January 6, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Yes indeed, and Mrs. MarshFox(not her real name) is excited about that! BTW you may become a character in her next book, she thought you were quite the wit:)

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:44 AM

All right. Now that’s the highest compliment I’ve ever received. :) Please blush to the Mrs for me.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Wouldn’t it have just been easier to say that Froggy went a courtin, geeze Axe, are your forgetting your stoics, that less is more when it comes to words and stories:)

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

I tried to tell you..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

LOL! Fabulous! :)

Spark will certainly see that the little girl gets some food!

We should turn her mirthless, unimaginative father ( who seem distinctly old Russian in character) into a toad. A mirthless, unimaginative toad, to boot.

You know, that’s our job, we denizens of the glade. We slay the wicked, like trolls, for instance ( and isn’t it amazing the forms some of them take onto themselves) and vanquish the unimaginative. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:51 AM

I tried to tell you..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Times are dire, my friend. We kid around here but don’t underestimate what goes on, 24/7. Soon Russia will look appealing.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM

We slay the wicked, like trolls, for instance ( and isn’t it amazing the forms some of them take onto themselves) and vanquish the unimaginative. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:51 AM

lol

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Dire, just for starters

After this

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Ribbitt ribbit, would you like flies with that?

SparkPlug on January 6, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Let me tell you something in all seriousness, there are a few of you on here, who have restored my faith in the human race, and our country, it is the wit and wisdom you all display that has done that. I thank you all for that! Now as for your character, she makes the call but in case you didn’t know she writes naughty romance, so what you end up as is anybody’s guess:)

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Mrs. Marsh Fox (not her real name) would be well-advised to consider having SparkPlug as one of her book characters. He is most simpatico.

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Water of Love – Dire Straits

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

I need to run. Between blood sports with Resist earlier, and Jackie bathing with a sword, I’m in a state. Besides, I have an idea and need to write it down. :)

Blast tonight everyone!

Glad you came tonight, Jack!

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Everyone’s a critic. :) Good to see you tonight.

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

*poof*

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 2:00 AM

she makes the call but in case you didn’t know she writes naughty romance, so what you end up as is anybody’s guess:)

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:58 AM

In that case she’s way better off with arnold ziffel :)

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Goodnight Axe.

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 2:01 AM

but in case you didn’t know she writes naughty romance, so what you end up as is anybody’s guess:)

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Glad you came tonight, Jack(ie)!

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Times are not good I agree..But I {{shudder}} to think Russia will be better..:)

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Axe on January 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Goodnight, Axefellow! Work hard, write well, sleep deep…and dream great and wondrous things. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Good Night Hot Air friends!

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Jackie…

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 2:05 AM

KCB on January 6, 2013 at 2:05 AM

Goodnight, Ken, my shy and generous friend. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:01 AM

I’ll let her know to watch the posts, so she can gleen material, she loves you guys, she gets a kick out of you guys taking down trolls, in her line of work obviously she deals with a very liberal crowd, she smacks them down when they spout, but she doesn’t see it like the level here, and it feeds her intellect here, I tell you Schad, I have married one of the smartest women on the planet, RWMs writing should have tipped me off she was a girl, the style is so much like my wifes, the level of detail I mean.

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on January 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Dire Straits on January 6, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Don’t worry Dire, not while I am alive, I have given too much for that, we will be a Republic once more!

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:02 AM

When she gets up i will tell her to look up this thread she will love that, you guys are the greatest, no doubt!

MarshFox on January 6, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Nite Ken

Schadenfreude on January 6, 2013 at 2:13 AM

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