Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on January 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

In the first closed-door meeting of the Republican majority in the new Congress, newly reelected House Speaker John A. Boehner on Friday promised a robust fight with President Obama to cut spending in exchange for raising the nation’s debt limit.

The Ohio Republican doubled-down on his insistence that there must be at least a dollar-per-dollar match between spending reductions and continued borrowing.

“With the cliff behind us, the focus turns to spending,” Boehner said, according to a source in the room who requested anonymity to discuss the private meeting. “The president says he isn’t going to have a debate with us over the debt ceiling. He also says he’s not going to cut spending along with the debt limit hike.”

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Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.) called for spending cuts and entitlement reform in the GOP weekly address on Saturday.

Camp, who chairs the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee, said Democrats have not been wiling to put real spending cuts on the table in deficit-reduction negotiations, including the most recent talks to avoid the “fiscal cliff.”

“That position is irresponsible and fails to acknowledge what every family in America already knows – when you have no more money in your account and your credit cards are maxed out, then the spending must stop,” Camp said.

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[W]hat is Obama going to do when he reveals his budget next month? What is his position going into budget showdowns over the course of his second term? There’s still room for him to push for more taxes, but he has conceded setting the threshold for increased income taxes at $400,000 instead of $250,000. If he wants to avoid new tax increases on 98-99 percent of households, and has already raised $617 billion, there’s an upper limit to how much additional revenue he could propose. Maybe he can come up with another few hundred billion, or approach $800 billion, by getting rid of various deductions and loopholes in the tax code. But there isn’t much room beyond that. The few hundred billion in savings he could theoretically find by tweaking mandatory programs and health care in a way Democrats may be able to swallow would largely be offset by the stimulus spending he still wants to push. It’s harder to argue that intransigent Republicans are standing in the way of deficit reduction when most of his deficit reduction proposal has already been enacted.

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The truth of course is that it’s Congress that has incurred the debts, not the president. The only reason the president appears to be in the position of being the one seeking the increase is that any sitting administration (its Treasury Department) is the one that actually has to pay the bills. That’s a pretty sweet deal for Congress. They run up the bills, and then, when the president asks them for the money to pay off the bills that they incurred, they say no!

Obama, in my memory, never once pointed this out in 2011, but he has already done so this time around: “I will not have another debate with this Congress over whether or not they should pay the bills that they’ve already racked up through the laws that they passed,” he said on New Year’s night, after the House passed the cliff bill.

He needs to bang this home with an intensity like it’s October in a presidential campaign. First and foremost, he has to get the business world on his side, such that they’re willing at least privately to come down on the Republicans like a ton of bricks. In 2011, these titans had to hedge their positions because most of them were hoping a Republican president would be elected the next year. But Obama is in the captain’s chair for four more years. There’s no political point to such hedging now.

Second, he should use the State of the Union to drive home the absurdity of the situation, and the outrageousness of it. He needs to turn and face the assembled Republicans and say directly to them: “You fooled me once in 2011. I won’t get fooled again. No negotiating means no negotiating.”

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So there are the GOP’s choices:

1. Give Obama his way on the debt ceiling, in which case the USA accelerates towards becoming Greece and the GOP become pointless as a political party.
2. Fight but cave, as they have done so often, in which case the USA accelerates towards becoming Greece and the GOP become pointless as a political party.
3. Find a way to throw the steering window out of the window of their car.
4. Convince Obama that they really are crazy (like a fox).

In the long run, options 3 and 4 are not just brave politics but also good economic policy…

The last time we went through this exercise, I counseled the GOP not to play chicken with Obama. But when facts change, I change my opinions. It’s become clear that Obama and the Democrats cannot be trusted to cut spending. It’s become clear from what Obama and Schumer are saying that the Democrats are going to insist on turning the debt ceiling into a chicken game.

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For conservatives, all of this should come as a relief. With Mitt Romney’s defeat in November, most recognize that any big deals favoring their positions are impossible. Barack Obama is no Bill Clinton, and there is no hope of a grand center-right bargain with him, let alone the Democratic Senate. Obama, Boehner, and Reid are not going to cut a deal on entitlement reform in the way Clinton, Newt Gingrich, and Trent Lott made a deal on welfare reform in 1996. But to say that there will likely be no big breakthroughs means that the left can expect to be stultified as well.

The Beltway punditocracy will, of course, bemoan gridlock. But the blame is misdirected. Our system of government is designed to impede reforms not backed by a broad majority, and the country remains deeply divided. While most Americans agree that the status quo is unacceptable, there is no consensus on what to do about any major issue. Thus, for the next two years, we should expect Washington to accomplish little.

Unfortunately, all of this is a consequence of the last election. Conservatives had hoped to provide the public a clear contrast on the issues of spending, taxes, and economic growth, and that the electorate would come down definitively on one side or the other. The people declined to do that, and the result of their demurral will be at least two more years of stagnation.

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Democrats want more revenue so that the entitlement system doesn’t have to be reformed, while Republicans want to reform the entitlement system so that the government doesn’t have to take up more of the economy. This means that doing a good deal of each at the same time would not give both parties what they want—it would give both parties what they are trying to avoid.

A grand bargain with far higher taxes in return for a thoroughly transformed entitlement system would give each party the means it is after but at the cost of the end it is after. That would be a foolish bargain for both of them. They would rather do nothing, and so in fact they have done nearly nothing—reaching agreements to put off deadlines and avert self-inflicted pain but otherwise not changing the basic fiscal circumstances much. These tiny steps are worth taking, but they do not address the underlying problem. Since our deficits and debt grow larger in the meantime, there will always need to be another deadline set, and another crisis scheduled, but it is hard to see why those should turn out much differently, at least as long as either party has the electoral power to stop the other.

At some point, in other words, the fiscal question dividing the parties will be decided by voters. It will likely not happen in some dramatic fashion with one decisive election fought over the future of America, but in the normal and gradual course of our politics. It may even happen by accident—after an election fought mostly on other issues that gives one party or another enough control of the elected branches to advance its fiscal reforms. Until then, both parties will likely continue their defensive efforts, and seek whatever modest incremental steps are possible in an era of divided government.

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President Obama can make a better argument. Congress has given him an impossible task: to implement a large number of costly public projects with less money than those projects cost. If he cuts spending, then he violates constitutional norms that give Congress the power to determine spending. If he raises revenues by borrowing or trying to tax people, then he violates constitutionals norms that give Congress the power to borrow or tax. In the face of contradictory instructions from Congress, the president can’t avoid choosing—by virtue of his administrative role as collector and disburser of revenues, the president must do something. Where Congress fails to provide him with consistent instructions, he has the discretion to do what he believes is in the public interest. If the economy were to be on the point of collapse, he could cite emergency powers sanctified by tradition as his authority for borrowing beyond the debt ceiling on his own. But a less drastic argument is that the power to resolve conflicting congressional orders is inherent in the president’s administrative role. Indeed, presidents frequently face conflicting statutes as they govern, and they have long enjoyed a great deal of discretion in resolving them…

[F]or government to function, the dysfunctional institutions within it must give way. The president has spoken softly for long enough; now it is time for him to wield the big stick and raise the debt ceiling on his own.

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We still need to do more to put Americans back to work while also putting this country on a path to pay down its debt. And our economy can’t afford more protracted showdowns or manufactured crises along the way. Because even as our businesses created 2 million new jobs last year – including 168,000 new jobs last month – the messy brinksmanship in Congress made business owners more uncertain and consumers less confident…

And as I said earlier this week, one thing I will not compromise over is whether or not Congress should pay the tab for a bill they’ve already racked up. If Congress refuses to give the United States the ability to pay its bills on time, the consequences for the entire global economy could be catastrophic. The last time Congress threatened this course of action, our entire economy suffered for it. Our families and our businesses cannot afford that dangerous game again.

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“We blame politics — always [saying] Washington is all dysfunctional,” Brooks said. “They’re responding reasonably efficiently to what the American people want, which is to take the future’s money and spend it on ourselves. … So I do think it starts with the American people.”

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B9

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:32 PM

GG

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM

jackie

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Scrumpy

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

RWM

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

KOOLAID

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

upinak

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

BISHOP

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Hi EG!

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

KCB

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

GhoulAid

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Hi KCB..

The rest will come around shortly..:)

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 8:34 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

portlandon

portlandon on January 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM

The Ohio Republican doubled-down on his insistence that there must be at least a dollar-per-dollar match between spending reductions and continued borrowing.

That solves nothing…

Seven Percent Solution on January 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM

After he bans our guns he is going to demand a debt ceiling hike with higher taxes via the loophole closure Boner offered up and no cuts in “the congresses” deficit!

Well with the Morons who lected him and the Water carrying Presstitutes he might get it done….and start a civil war!

ConcealedKerry on January 5, 2013 at 8:36 PM

B 11

You sunk my Battleship!

portlandon on January 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM

“With the cliff behind us, the focus turns to spending,” Boehner said, according to a source in the room who requested anonymity to discuss the private meeting. “The president says he isn’t going to have a debate with us over the debt ceiling. He also says he’s not going to cut spending along with the debt limit hike.”

So…
the cliff isn’t behind us…
It’s right along side…

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM

…see how slow MY unit is!…(I can only get two a minute!)
…oh wait!…my wife said that…and it wasn’t about the computer!

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM

22044

Vikings 3, Packers 0. End of 1st quarter

Packers with the ball on Minnesota’s 1 yard line, 2nd & goal.

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

The Ohio Republican doubled-down on his insistence that there must be at least a dollar-per-dollar match between spending reductions and continued borrowing.

Which leaves us right where we are.

So he’s INSISTING that he break even….what a hero.

This is our LEADER…and he’s a friggin’ dope.

We’re truly rudderless.

Tim_CA on January 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

They will cave, unfortunately. Probably get some empty BS promise, but it will equal a cave.

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Obama’s going for broke this year. And Repubs have no spines.

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Maybe Izza could find his Balls on F
ast and Furious before the Lyin kING crams gun control and rolls the Repunks on the debt ceiling?

ConcealedKerry on January 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Yep. That about covers it. Who wants to go OT?

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

If this anti middle class house majority is so against entitlements, why dont they pass a bill to eliminate them? Instead they keep crying for Obama to go first. Lol.

All talk no action.

HotAirLib on January 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Yep. That about covers it. Who wants to go OT?

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Hi Ken – great idea!

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM

Tim_CA on January 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

EXACTLY thats not deficit REDUCTION! Thats deficit CONTINUATION.
Boehner has no brain or a wet brain SHUT IT DOWN DAMMIT!

ConcealedKerry on January 5, 2013 at 8:44 PM

So there are the GOP’s choices:

1. Give Obama his way on the debt ceiling, in which case the USA accelerates towards becoming Greece and the GOP become pointless as a political party.
2. Fight but cave, as they have done so often, in which case the USA accelerates towards becoming Greece and the GOP become pointless as a political party.
3. Find a way to throw the steering window out of the window of their car.
4. Convince Obama that they really are crazy (like a fox).

$50 says boner goes with his personal fave…Good ol’ #2

Even the number is appropriate.

Tim_CA on January 5, 2013 at 8:44 PM

how many of you have registered as independents since the election?

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Which leaves us right where we are.

So he’s INSISTING that he break even….what a hero.

This is our LEADER…and he’s a friggin’ dope.

We’re truly rudderless.

Tim_CA on January 5, 2013 at 8:40 PM

What? That’s Beltway-speak for ‘steep cuts’.

/You leave the Orange One ALONE!!1!!

rayra on January 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM

The truth of course is that it’s Congress that has incurred the debts, not the president.

And, how will Obama be paying for the raises he gave Federal employees from Biden on down VIA EXECUTIVE ORDER – that means Congress wasn’t involved – this week? Huh, Tomasky, old buddy, old pal???

BTW, Congress can spend NO money without the President’s signature.

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 8:43 PM

What’s up!

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM

The Ohio Republican doubled-down on his insistence that there must be at least a dollar-per-dollar match between spending reductions and continued borrowing.

Negotiating to lose already. All the borrowing to take place today, reductions 10 years down the road.

El_Terrible on January 5, 2013 at 8:47 PM

“And as I said earlier this week…” – President Barack Obama

Just STFU already, you ignorant, narcissistic, child-abusing, asinine, arrogant, pompous, condescending, classless, ill-mannered, puerile, petulant, braggadocios, ridiculous, contemptible, idiotic, demagogic, infantile, dishonest, inane, know-nothingish, authoritarian, crisis-manufacturing, incapable-of-leading, dilly-dallying, boorish, insipid, hypocritical, Machiavellian, Orwellian, unaccountable, fragile, imperialistic, windbaggish, dithering, nouveau riche, vain, vacuous, vapid, unenlightened, uninformed, inexperienced, cretinous, witless, stupid morceau de merde!

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

how many of you have registered as independents since the election?

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

I’ve been such since GHW Bush violated his ‘no new taxes’ promise. Been a man without a party for 20yrs. Situation’s not getting any better.

rayra on January 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

pssst. Left out ‘marxist’.

rayra on January 5, 2013 at 8:49 PM

how many of you have registered as independents since the election?

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

I’ll probably go libertarian after the GOP caves again.

IDK what the heck they’re thinking… We won independents in the last election, and still lost. We have to play to our base, expand it, and hold the line.

El_Terrible on January 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Holy F#ck!
Remind me NEVER to piss you off

(lol – needed a dictionary for some of those)

Tim_CA on January 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Friend of your’s?/

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

The Progs are confident right now…so much so that I fear they are going to ignite the fuse…

d1carter on January 5, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Why can’t these jackasses start with a 15% cut across the board for all government agencies and programs or shut it all down?
Insist the situation is so dire we must cut or be downgraded again. Make the stakes as large as you like it would be hard to underestimate them.
I have not fond memories of Little geoge bushie trying to talk turkey on Fannie and Freddie and SSI but he had no spine. We are ruled by spineless asses who cave to their lying oppostiton without shame.

ConcealedKerry on January 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Hey, HAL, here’s one of your “enlightened, oh-so-tolerant” friends:

A Face Only Richard Trumka Could Love…

M2RB: Def Leppard

I’m sure she’ll be willing to throw in her baritone in singing a duet of Daisy with you. Hell, she’ll probably let you try on her comfortable shoes. lol

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:52 PM

ConcealedKerry on January 5, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Still whining about fast and furious I see. You do know the election is over and that your side lost big time right?

HotAirLib on January 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

how many of you have registered as independents since the election?

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

For what, to vote in stolen elections?

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 8:54 PM

What’s up!

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Howdy.
Quiet day today.
Did some chores and organized stuff.
Followed the Hobby Lobby thread for a while.
Turned on the football game.

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Still whining about fast and furious I see. You do know the election is over and that your side lost big time right?

HotAirLib on January 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

The parents of the murdered agents are still whining in your eyes too i would guess. oh, i forgot, you can’t expect libs to care about innocent life lost when they celebrate babies that survive abortions by throwing them in the janitor’s closet to die.

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

we are in a race with Cuba to see who can degenerate the fastest.

Cuba has a 50 year head start but we have a kenyan bastard who hates colonials.

The tie breaker?

Never underestimate a muslim’s ability to devestate an economy or country in a short time.

acyl72 on January 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Friend of your’s?/

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:50 PM

lol. Here’s the cartoon that goes with it…

‘Toon of the Day: Obama’s “Protection” Racket

Is that not what you want to say when he starts droning on about “protecting the children” from deficits and the debt? Seriously, I’d probably tell it to his face if I had the chance and he started that same riff we’ve heard since 2007.

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

B 11

You sunk my Battleship!

portlandon on January 5, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Bwaaah.

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 8:57 PM

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Took down tree and decorations. Didn’t catch the first game, but I’m watching this one while some idiot is trying to start some sh!t with everyone on this thread. Just dumb.

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

how many of you have registered as independents since the election?

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:45 PM

For what, to vote in stolen elections?

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 8:54 PM

well, i guess it’s my last hope that that sort of thing happening by mass republicans would wake the GOP up. and i know someone will respond with “nothing will wake them up”. so i guess my question is, when does the SHTF with us? it’s way past time, no?

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

There’s a reason they wanna grab your guns; it’s so they can grab every damn thing else.

hillbillyjim on January 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Looks like Ken is trying to horn in on my harem of hotties.

I guess Barbie wasn’t enough woman for you so you’ve gotta bogart some of my stash of babes, right Ken?

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Indeed, this one’s not too bright. Actually, none of them are.

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

hillbillyjim on January 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Simple isn’t it? Don’t know how so many don’t get it.

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

HotAirLib on January 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Actually your side lost you just don’t know it yet, but go ahead and continue to insist that we did, I am prepared for what is to come, but you and your party are not, power is is fickle thing, and can only be wielded on the willing, in the not so distant future, the elites will find that out.

MarshFox on January 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

The pitiful part of it is, it’s not responsible to have a sudden stop or crash, like refusing to raise the debt limit, because of the effect on the system. The responsible thing is to make real, serious cuts over time, and the Democrats, and Obama, are utterly unwilling to do any of that. It’s so harmful to the country.

It makes me want to b*tch slap all of them. With a few choice hyphenated words.

Paul-Cincy on January 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Oh, uh, hey Sparky! Um, I guess you caught up on the thread, huh?

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Looks like Ken is trying to horn in on my harem of hotties.

I guess Barbie wasn’t enough woman for you so you’ve gotta bogart some of my stash of babes, right Ken?

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

lol – I just noticed, he only called the women!

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 9:03 PM

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:01 PM

You got a B9 Bishop and a Scrumpy Bishop on the same thread.

I’ll get you next time? (:

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Still whining about fast and furious I see. You do know the election is over and that your side lost big time right?

HotAirLib on January 5, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Mexican blood in the streets…
Lets celebrate..

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

lol – I just noticed, he only called the women!

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 9:03 PM

;-)

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:04 PM

HotAirLib on January 5, 2013

…GFY!
(over and over and over!)

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Because even as our businesses created 2 million new jobs last year – including 168,000 new jobs last month – the messy brinksmanship in Congress made business owners more uncertain and consumers less confident…

Yet U6 unemployment is at 14 1/2 percent.

MILLIONS of new jobs.

(I’m confused)

Tim_CA on January 5, 2013 at 9:06 PM

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:00 PM

lol – I just noticed, he only called the women!

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 9:03 PM

…1st thing I noticed!
…I’m going to have a chat with Mrs.KCB(not…her real name).

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

…1st thing I noticed!
…I’m going to have a chat with Mrs.KCB(not…her real name).

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Hmmm. Nobody’s wives get referred to by their real name…

:)

Good luck w/ the chat!

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

well, i guess it’s my last hope that that sort of thing happening by mass republicans would wake the GOP up. and i know someone will respond with “nothing will wake them up”. so i guess my question is, when does the SHTF with us? it’s way past time, no?

GhoulAid on January 5, 2013 at 8:58 PM

The only thing that needs to be woken up is the American people.

And yes, it’s way past time and past my bedtime. Been in beer halls all night.

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

past my bedtime. Been in beer halls all night.

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

…might as well stay here and watch the Packers/Vikings…your’re going to be getting up all night to pi$$ anyway! (:->)

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM

No current Mrs., but I was married to a Barbara, so Sparky isn’t the first with the Barbie joke.

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Not only should the debt ceiling — which has become a floor — NOT be raised, Republicans need to go on the offensive and start demanding and standing for it to be LOWERED — significantly and frequently!!!

Screw the Cries of the Commies … either start saving the nation, or get the hell out of the way so somebody with a spine and a freakin’ brain attached to it can do the job …

Enough insanity, already! Just.Say.No.

ShainS on January 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM

The only thing that needs to be woken up is the American people.

And yes, it’s way past time and past my bedtime. Been in beer halls all night.

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

When it comes and I believe it will come…the politicians will not be involved…And, have one on me!

d1carter on January 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM

…might as well stay here and watch the Packers/Vikings…your’re going to be getting up all night to pi$$ anyway! (:->)

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Still on holiday with family in Karlovy Vary. Lot’s of Russian tourists here on holiday too.

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Well said!

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Packers are about to score again. They’re in good form.

22044 on January 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Oh lordy, my nephews are spending the night, Retarzilla and Mothtardia… o_O

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

The Ohio Republican doubled-down on his insistence that there must be at least a dollar-per-dollar match between spending reductions and continued borrowing.

LOL. Go drown in your tears, you stupid, incompetent, worthless POS. If you had any integrity, at all – even one little smidgeon – you’d step dwon from your pathetic Weepership and you’d even resign your seat, as you are a total loser and an anchor around America’s neck. You truly disgust me.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Been in beer halls all night.

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Lucky you… ;p

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

The truth of course is that it’s Congress that has incurred the debts, not the president. The only reason the president appears to be in the position of being the one seeking the increase is that any sitting administration (its Treasury Department) is the one that actually has to pay the bills. That’s a pretty sweet deal for Congress. They run up the bills, and then, when the president asks them for the money to pay off the bills that they incurred, they say no!

Bah. Obama concurred with the spending legislation by signing it. He shouldn’t have signed it knowing he he didn’t have the ability to pay the bills. Obama has much discretion on how much is spent by agencies and departments.

But let’s be clear, Obama hasn’t run up bills that can’t be paid because we’re not past the debt limit. He’s only facing the prospect of not being able to pay the bills and he doesn’t have the authority to go beyond what he he can pay based on revenue and borrowing limits.

Congress has arrived at the point where the rubber — their desire for spending — meets the road — their need to raise revenue through borrowing. It is right and proper for Congress to revisit the the spending, and to tell the truth, as Obama himself points out, when and how they do it is none of his effing business. His business is to work with what he gets from Congress and if includes shutdown, because the Dems won’t reduce spending so as to not add hundred of billions more to the debt, then so be it.

You know what his responsibility is? The government continues to collect revenue every day/week/month, and he needs to report to Congress what essential functions can be funded if the he is confined to that for the rest of the year. That, and not be a purposely sophomoric with respect to who is responsible for the problem of how to pay the bills, when he’s personally responsible for egging his party to rack up debt, refuse to compromise, and wait until the last minute to solve a crisis he and his party create.

Dusty on January 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Still on holiday with family in Karlovy Vary. Lot’s of Russian tourists here on holiday too.

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Well, that explains the beer halls. :)

OldEnglish on January 5, 2013 at 9:24 PM

KOOLAID2 on January 5, 2013 at 8:35 PM

lol, you OK fella after your shotgun behaviour on the Inaugural thread? I’m here for you. Nobody has been acting up enough lately for the KOOLAID shower but I’m sure an open reg is just over the horizon.

arnold ziffel on January 5, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Speaker John A. Boehner on Friday promised a robust fight with President Obama to cut spending in exchange for raising the nation’s debt limit.

Blahblahblahblahblahblah.

davidk on January 5, 2013 at 9:25 PM

LOL. Go drown in your tears, you stupid, incompetent, worthless POS. If you had any integrity, at all – even one little smidgeon – you’d step dwon from your pathetic Weepership and you’d even resign your seat, as you are a total loser and an anchor around America’s neck. You truly disgust me.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 5, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Why you wanna be so nice?

arnold ziffel on January 5, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I wish those Congress Critters hadn’t driven the national debt up another 7 million by forcing the Cousin Eddie Obama Clan to Vacation at some shack in Hawaii and make two pointless trips back and forth!

I wish those Repunks had not forced the Cousin Eddie Obamas wife Moochelle to take a 100 or so “friends” to Spain.

I wish the Sidwell Friends Private School that the Cousin Eddie Obama Clans kids attend didn’t have over a dozen armed guards because that was a dumb solution Wayne LaPierre put out there!
S/

ConcealedKerry on January 5, 2013 at 9:29 PM

When it comes and I believe it will come…the politicians will not be involved…And, have one on me!

d1carter on January 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM

It’s 3:30 in the a.m. Beer halls closed for the night, will catch you next time.

JPeterman on January 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Remember cut,cap, & balance? Seems like a million years ago.

wolly4321 on January 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

The truth of course is that it’s Congress that has incurred the debts, not the president.

Er … that’s not the point. The truth is that we don’t raise the debt limit in order to service the existing debt. That is just an asinine idea that only a stupid 84 IQ affirmative action retard could propose. The debt limit is raised in order to allow more wild spending, to build up MORE debt. The idea that we won’t service our existing debt if the debt limit isn’t raised is just a total outright lie (an impeachable offense by the criminal in the White House, BTW – just add it to the list of tens of other impeachable acts he’s committed over his illegitimate and retarded term). Our current debt service is south of $20 billion/month while the feral government takes in receipts in excess of $200 billion/month. The debt limit has NOTHING to do with debt service. It’s the whole host of expensive, un-Constitutional, insane feral programs that the Indonesian and the Dems want to keep growing that are funded by raising the debt ceiling to the heavens.

I find it amazing that anyone buys this ridiculous “we have to raise the debt ceiling or we’ll default”. That is just stupid and clearly a lie. Of course, in the American Socialist Superstate, under the reign of the retarded Indonesian Dog-Eater, lies and stupidity are the rule of the day.

I friggin hate these slimeballs with the heat of 1000 suns. They are the lowest form of sub-humanity that has ever crawled the Earth. And anyone who supports the Indonesian is the same sort of slime. I want a national divorce from these dirtballs. Let them fry in their own hell. I want no part of it or them. They sicken me.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Remember cut,cap, & balance? Seems like a million years ago.

wolly4321 on January 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Paygo

tom daschle concerned on January 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Remember cut,cap, & balance? Seems like a million years ago.

wolly4321 on January 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Pay-Go…

I guess only for Pay-Per-View TV…

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Remember cut,cap, & balance? Seems like a million years ago.

wolly4321 on January 5, 2013 at 9:30 PM

What He said…:)

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Correction…

Paygo

tom daschle concerned on January 5, 2013 at 9:32 PM

What he said…

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Lol. I’ll send over Axefellow. I’m trying to get him to leave the glade so I can get some quality time with some nymphs.

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Pay-Go…

I guess only for Pay-Per-View TV…

Electrongod on January 5, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Uno Coca Cola por favor.

tom daschle concerned on January 5, 2013 at 9:35 PM

I’ll Hi Scrumpy the lot of ya!

Lanceman on January 5, 2013 at 9:36 PM

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Lol. I’ll send over Axefellow. I’m trying to get him to leave the glade so I can get some quality time with some nymphs.

SparkPlug on January 5, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Oh thanks… Just for that I’m putting the batteries in your correlator in backwards… ;p

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Since it is Ladies Night. And no, it’s not that song.

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

I’ll Hi Scrumpy the lot of ya!

Lanceman on January 5, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Is that legal where you live? o_O

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM

o_O

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Why does that look like Bill the Cat?

ACK!

Lanceman on January 5, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Since it is Ladies Night. And no, it’s not that song.

KCB on January 5, 2013 at 9:37 PM

OH… Drool drool… Be still my beating heart… (Yea, I’m like totally in love with her.. ;) )

SWalker on January 5, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Resist We Much on January 5, 2013 at 8:48 PM

You have to stop keeping things in. :)

Axe on January 5, 2013 at 9:40 PM

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