Joe Manchin: Say… about that gun grabbing thing…

posted at 8:31 am on January 5, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

I actually owe Jim Geraghty and his indispensable Morning Jolt newsletter a big hat tip for this story, though we wrote about the roots of it multiple times here. In any event, astute readers will recall the response of long time Democratic Second Amendment supporter Joe Manchin in the wake of the Newtown tragedy.

“I just came with my family from deer hunting,” Manchin said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “I’ve never had more than three shells in a clip. Sometimes you don’t get more than one shot anyway at a deer. It’s common sense. It’s time to move beyond rhetoric. We need to sit down and have a common-sense discussion and move in a reasonable way.”

Well, a bit of time has gone by, allowing cooler heads a chance to prevail and some of Senator Manchin’s constituents a chance to weigh in. Some of the swamp fever may be breaking down in West Virginia, as this more recent interview suggests.

“I’m not afraid to have these conversations and I know I’m going to get criticized,” Senator Manchin said on Wednesday’s MetroNews Talkline. He was a guest on the show for the second time this week to talk about his position on firearm regulatory changes and what should be done after the Newtown.

“I am open to talking about how do we have a better society with less violence and not blame just the gun owner, because if you blame the gun owner, you’re blaming me,” the Senator said.

Host Hoppy Kercheval asked Senator Manchin if he will support California Senator Dianne Feinstein’s proposed bill to reinstate the ban on assault weapons. That ban first took effect in 1994 and expired in 2004.

“I’m not supporting a ban on anything. I’m supporting a conversation on everything,” Senator Manchin said.

Nobody is supporting a ban on conversation, Senator. We were just a tad bit alarmed at the direction yours seemed to be taking. But it’s good to see you’ve had some time to reconsider. One of the things you might be taking into account is the fact that even an incident as horrible as the Newtown maniac’s rampage hasn’t shifted the national mood very much. We already know that American’s don’t want the government snacking on their hand guns, but let’s take a look at the most hot button buzz word in the gun grabbing dictionary. Pollsters – including some sponsors who seem to really want to push this, like USA Today – keep asking the following question about those really nasty “assault rifles.”

Are you for or against a law which would make it illegal to manufacture, sell or possess semiautomatic guns known as assault rifles?

The skewing of the question doesn’t get much better than this for the gun grabbing lobby. And yet, one year before Newtown, Americans opposed the proposition by a 53 to 43 margin. A few weeks ago – three days before Christmas, in fact – the same question was put to the nation with exactly the same wording. How much did it change?

Still opposed… 51 to 44. It’s a net shift which is less than the margin of error. And as the public gets to hear more and more about the true intentions of people like Governor Andrew “Confiscation might be an option” Cuomo, the panic driven rush toward the doors on the Second Amendment seems to continue to slow down. Senators like Manchin obviously follow the news, though I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and allow that he’s simply overcoming the shock and returning to his senses.

This is not to say that we should become lax on this and lower our guard. The Democrats will still be introducing new legislation to restrict your most fundamental rights as soon as the new Congress has figured out where the bathrooms are. But I’m beginning to allow myself a sliver of hope that folks are slowly coming back to their senses and won’t allow this to be a stampede. We’ll need to stay on top of our House members though, and remind them that they are up for election every two years.

And we’re still watching.


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Nothing like witnessing the end of statist control, and the statists not being fully aware of it.

The schemers and controllers want to monopolize their force, assault weapons and death. Only THEY can steal. Only THEY can kill.

No, no more. Done enough damage.

fatlibertarianinokc on May 7, 2013 at 6:20 PM

time to go after paper politicians.

john1schn on May 7, 2013 at 6:22 PM

PITCHFORK CONTROL next?

Tar and feathers to be banned?

All you can eat buffets are killing Americans, over eaters should pay extra.

32 ounce $1.00 drinks at McDonalds causes Parkinson’s or something, special tax needed.

Seniors using too much healthcare in final years. Make Hospice Care free and provide a $10,000 tax credit to those that sign up at age 60.

And yet we dummies keep electing this!!!!!

PappyD61 on May 7, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Suck it, Lizardface.

fossten on May 7, 2013 at 9:44 PM

All those who were surprised by this move?

*crickets*

Valid security concerns aside, the idea of anyone literally being able to print unregistered weapons (possibly their ammo blanks too in the future) is absolutely terrifying to liberals.

MelonCollie on May 7, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Two things to think about before worrying about printed guns:

1. There’s no need to print guns unless Chuck and friends make it illegal to otherwise acquire them.

2. If having guns does become illegal the cartels which can smuggle weed across the border by the ton will bring in the guns as soon as there is a market.

Nomas on May 7, 2013 at 11:05 PM

The issue is not whether something should be done but whether something can be done.

The genius of this technology is that it is unregulatable.

You can pass laws but they won’t accomplish anything.

Furthermore, I can put the aforementioned six ounce slug of iron in the handle to make it legal.

Worse though you see how the gun comes apart into bits and pieces.

Lets say I take it apart. Will you spot the pieces?

What if every piece has a duel use. Every piece screws into something else. What if every little bit screws into my luggage.

The ultimate movie that had a plastic gun was “in the line of fire”… it was a neat little thing. They hid the bullet in a lucky rabbit’s foot. Everything else just broke down into little plastic bits that were here or there.

Can’t stop it. You protect yourself in that environment by knowing who is coming through the door… not by search them.

Karmashock on May 8, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Schumer can go bugger himself.

claudius on May 8, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Gotta love Schumer’s descriptive language, “Our Republicans”.

That’ll leave a mark.

MTF on May 21, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Dang it

Dear leader to take credit

cmsinaz on May 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. If amnesty passes both houses, I will never vote republican again.

I know that sounds like the typical empty threat. But in this case, I honestly do not see what the point would be of any longer pretending the GOP cares about limited gov’t.

My one vote and my limited finanical contributions won’t hurt the GOP. but hopefully, others will join in.

I would rather the GOP completely die as a party and allow us a chance to build something new while the DNC runs rampant that continue pretending that the GOP actually opposes DNC policies. The alternative, to continue the pretense, simply means allowing the DNC to pass its entire agenda a little more slowly than otherwise without any real chance of stopping it. At least if the GOP is killed off, a new party may actually come about that supports the idea of limited gov’t.

I don’t understand how Lindsay Graham is not beaten in a primary. Is there really nobody that could beat him by running to his right? I would also love to see McCain gone. Rubio has blown whatever conservative cred he had with this nonsense.

Monkeytoe on May 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

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