Quotes of the day
posted at 8:17 pm on January 4, 2013 by Allahpundit
A number of Republican senators say a partial government shutdown should be considered as an option if President Obama doesn’t concede on spending cuts to the GOP’s satisfaction…
Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, told the Dallas Morning News that he would be open to a partial government shutdown, pointing to the 1995 shutdown as “the greatest degree of fiscal responsibility we have seen from Congress in modern times.”
Sen. Pat Toomey, R-Pa., Wednesday urged Republicans to consider a partial government shutdown, saying it would be “a hell of a lot better” than agreeing to a deal with no spending cuts.
“The president has made it very clear: He doesn’t even want to have a discussion about it, because he knows this is where we have leverage,” Toomey said on MSNBC Wednesday.
Over the next few months, we will reach deadlines related to the debt ceiling, the sequester and the continuing appropriations resolution that has funded federal operations since October. If history is any guide, President Obama won’t see fit to engage congressional Republicans until the 11th hour. In fact, he has already signaled an unwillingness to negotiate over the debt ceiling. This is unacceptable. The president should immediately put forward a plan that addresses these deadlines, and he should launch serious, transparent budget negotiations…
The coming deadlines will be the next flashpoints in our ongoing fight to bring fiscal sanity to Washington. It may be necessary to partially shut down the government in order to secure the long-term fiscal well being of our country, rather than plod along the path of Greece, Italy and Spain. President Obama needs to take note of this reality and put forward a plan to avoid it immediately.
Sen. Charles Schumer (D., N.Y.) is advising his congressional colleagues and President Barack Obama not to negotiate with Republicans if they threaten to shut down the federal government or vote down an increase in the borrowing limit.
“Anyone who wants to come and negotiate and say we will raise the debt ceiling only if you do A, B, C will not have a negotiating partner,” Mr. Schumer said at a press conference Friday. “And if then they don’t want to raise the debt ceiling, it’ll be on their shoulders. I would bet that they would not go forward with that.”
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has privately told other Democrats, including President Obama, that if the administration used its constitutional and executive authority to continue paying its debts in the face of House Republican opposition, he would support the approach, according to a source familiar with Reid’s message to the president.
The simplest escape route out of the debt ceiling impasse is for the president to direct the Treasury to find a legal way to pay its debts. The Treasury then has a variety of options. One gaining particular attention relies on a law that allows the Treasury to mint a coin of unspecified value and deposit it with the Federal Reserve. Those funds could then be used legally to pay debts.
“Reid has not dismissed any option,” said the source close to Reid.
The source relates some of Boehner’s comments:
“With the cliff behind us, the focus turns to spending. The president says he isn’t going to have a debate with us over the debt ceiling. He also says he’s not going to cut spending along with the debt limit hike.
“This morning we’re releasing the results of a survey by the Winston Group taken December 29-30 among 1,000 registered voters. Seventy-two percent of Americans agree any increase in the nation’s debt limit must be accompanied by spending cuts and reforms of a greater amount. That’s the principle I laid out before the Economic Club of New York in May of 2011, and I’ve repeated a number of times since. The debate is already underway.”
Via the Winston Group.

Republicans insist they’re on the right side of public opinion in this round, citing a CBS News poll last month that 68 percent of Americans don’t want the debt limit raised. After agreeing to $620 billion in tax revenue to avert the fiscal cliff, congressional Republican leaders claim they will accept nothing less than a dollar in cuts for every dollar increase in borrowing authority…
“Most Americans, if you ask them, want less debt, and it’s clear that Obama and the Democrats want more,” [Club for Growth President Chris] Chocola said. “If the Republicans can convincingly and confidently tell that story, I think that they can start to win the debate.”
“But they have to be willing to shoot the hostage,” he added. “They have to be willing to not raise the debt ceiling. I think Obama doesn’t believe we’ll do that and Republican leadership worries about what guys like you write. … They have to be willing to say, ‘We’re not going there unless we put meaningful reforms in place.’ The public at least on this one is kinda on their side.”
In a better, more rational world, the debt limit wouldn’t be a tool of budgetary policy. But it is one of the few must-pass pieces of legislation that Republicans can use to force spending cuts, and it obviously relates directly to our budget problem. If the president doesn’t want the debate over it to go nerve-wrackingly down to the wire, he can set out a serious offer, now.
Of course, he’s doing the opposite. His refusal to negotiate isn’t sustainable, but he’ll spend precious time trying to sustain it. He’ll finally agree to talk, and then get Republicans to back off whatever their maximal position is — because Republicans will again fear being blamed if there’s no agreement. Another Band-Aid will be applied to the debt, until next time. In the Age of Obama, the new budget crisis always follows the last.
The reason behind this lamentable outcome is the outsize influence of narrow interest groups—which marks a second, unhappy parallel with Europe. The inability of Europeans to rise above petty national concerns, whether over who pays for bail-outs or who controls bank supervision, has prevented them from making the big compromises necessary to secure the single currency’s future. America’s Democrats and Republicans have proved similarly incapable of reaching a grand bargain; both are far too driven by their parties’ extremists and too focused on winning concessions from the other side to work steadily together to secure the country’s fiscal future.
The third parallel is that politicians have failed to be honest with voters. Just as Chancellor Angela Merkel and President François Hollande have avoided coming clean to the Germans and the French about what it will take to save the single currency, so neither Mr Obama nor the Republican leaders have been brave enough to tell Americans what it will really take to fix the fiscal mess. Democrats pretend that no changes are necessary to Medicare (health care for the elderly) or Social Security (pensions). Republican solutions always involve unspecified spending cuts, and they regard any tax rise as socialism. Each side prefers to denounce the other, reinforcing the very polarisation that is preventing progress…
This week Mr Obama boasted that he had fulfilled his mandate by raising taxes on the rich. In fact, by failing once again to clear up America’s fundamental fiscal trouble, he and Republican leaders are building Brussels on the Potomac.
I worried the other day that amid all the rancor the president would poison his future relations with Congress, which in turn would poison the chances of progress in, say, immigration reform. But I doubt now he has any intention of working with them on big reforms, of battling out a compromise at a conference table, of having long walks and long talks and making offers that are serious, that won’t be changed overnight to something else. The president intends to consistently beat his opponents and leave them looking bad, or, failing that, to lose to them sometimes and then make them look bad. That’s how he does politics.
Why?
Here’s my conjecture: In part it’s because he seems to like the tension. He likes cliffs, which is why it’s always a cliff with him and never a deal. He likes the high-stakes, tottering air of crisis. Maybe it makes him feel his mastery and reminds him how cool he is, unrattled while he rattles others. He can take it. Can they?…
In the short term, Mr. Obama has won. The Republicans look bad. John Boehner looks bad, though to many in Washington he’s a sympathetic figure because they know how much he wanted a historic agreement on the great issue of his time. Some say he would have been happy to crown his career with it, and if that meant losing a job, well, a short-term loss is worth a long-term crown. Mr. Obama couldn’t even make a deal with a man like that, even when it would have made the president look good.
Republicans now have the default advantage. If the debt limit is not raised, Obama will be forced to cut federal spending by 44 percent. If the sequester is not rescinded, $1.2 trillion in spending cuts will go into effect. As the party of the welfare state, Democrats simply can not allow this to happen. Republicans are now in position to get the better side of the bargain. But what do they want?…
In other words, no, Republicans have no idea what they want to ask for in the upcoming debt limit debate. Yes, they want all the entitlement reforms in the Ryan budget, which are specific enough, but the Harry Reid Senate is never going to pass that budget and Obama would never sign it. So what, realistically, should Republicans insist on?
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Friday that the upcoming showdown over the debt ceiling isn’t a political winner for House Republicans, dubbing it a “dead loser.”
“They’ve got to find, in the House, a totally new strategy,” Gingrich said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “Everybody’s now talking about, ‘Oh, here comes the debt ceiling.’ I think that’s, frankly, a dead loser. Because in the end you know it’s gonna happen. The whole national financial system is going to come in to Washington and on television and say: ‘Oh my God, this will be a gigantic heart attack, the entire economy of the world will collapse. You guys will be held responsible.’ And they’ll cave.”
There’s a term for societies where power brokers stitch up the people’s business in back rooms and their pseudo-parliaments sign off on it at 3 a.m., and it isn’t a “republic of limited government by citizen-representatives.”
There are arguments to be made in favor of small government: My comrades and I have done our best over the years, with results that, alas, in November were plain to see. There are arguments to be made in favor of big government: The Scandinavians make them rather well. But there is absolutely nothing to be said for what is now the standard operating procedure of the Brokest Nation in History: a government that spends without limit and makes no good-faith effort even to attempt to balance the books. That’s profoundly wicked. At a minimum, the opposition, to use a quaint term, should keep the people’s business out in the sunlight and not holed up in a seedy motel room with Joe Biden all night.
The fiscal cliff was a mirage. If Washington was obliged to use the same accounting procedures as your local hardware store, the real national debt would be at least ten times greater than the meaningless number they’re now going to spend the next two months arguing over. That’s to say, we’re already over the fiscal cliff but, like Wile E. Coyote, haven’t yet glanced down at our feet and seen there’s nothing holding us up. In a two-party system, there surely ought to be room for one party that still believes in solid ground.
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. . . lot of yesterdays i don’t want to meet . . .
Night Schad, everyone. :)
Still have time to conquer some turf. Wasn’t going to say anything, but then the thread needed rescuing (I thought), but then it didn’t, but Jackie was about, and then Spark had some kind of seizure (can’t just skip that) . . . anyway, later. :)
Axe on May 22, 2013 at 2:20 AM
Good night raj.
O_o
H/t SW.
SparkPlug on May 22, 2013 at 2:26 AM
Take Away: Don’t do drugs – they ruin beautiful things……..
williamg on May 22, 2013 at 2:31 AM
So -does that make me Leonard?
Sheldon is one my nicknames given to me by co-workers…….so is “House”…..
williamg on May 22, 2013 at 2:41 AM
The thug doing what he does best :
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/05/dhs-sends-in-chopper-to-intimidate-tea-party-protesters-in-la/
Adios amigas and amigos, see y’all yesterday !
burrata on May 22, 2013 at 2:47 AM
Novaculus…
Thank you for Spooky Tooth. Haven’t heard that in years (in another lifetime, I played that on the radio). Gary Wright has some pipes, huh?
either orr on May 22, 2013 at 2:55 AM
Hurry! It’s being reported that Anthony “Look At My” Weiner is declaring for NYC Mayor.
Hide your kids, hide your wife, they’re tweeting everybody up in here!
http://youtu.be/mEAKsaQOCpQ
Adjoran on May 22, 2013 at 5:19 AM
The president’s greatest asset is
his credibilitythat he is black.(Except that his mother is white ???)
stenwin77 on May 22, 2013 at 6:15 AM
so is the morning joe crew upset that issa is making this girl come to congress to plead the fifth to embarass her?
———————–
steve rattner defending dear leader to the bitter end natch, even al hunt and cokie knows that the doj and rosen is serious business
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 6:31 AM
Meanwhile, while we’re all looking over there… the Democrats and their Republicans in the Senate are about to begin legalizing 12 million new Democrat voters.
So… all of these scandals, just like the law, will soon be irrelevant.
JellyToast on May 22, 2013 at 6:32 AM
did the light bulb finally turn on in cokie’s head
upset that they made ap hold the story so that they can announce the story…
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 6:32 AM
Mornin’, y’all.
– Susan Rice “Benghazigate: Stinger Missiles Given to al-Queda? General Ham Told to Stand Down?”
My take.
kingsjester on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 AM
tru day JT
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 6:34 AM
day=dat
where’s my coffee
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 6:35 AM
Awwwww…Poor Lois Lerner might be embarrassed. BFD
No mercy at all to the crooks in government. I hope she one day gets really humiliated and has to do the perp walk as Federal agents arrest her at her IRS office at high noon on a bright sunny day.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM
THIS
folks are finally waking up to it…a little late though…thanks for another 4 years of him
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 6:36 AM
2nd that….
the lsm will howl that the gop is mean for doing this but you know if the show was on the other foot they would be doing the exact same thing…
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 6:39 AM
Has there ever been a bigger sucker/turncoat than Marco Rubio?
kingsjester on May 22, 2013 at 6:39 AM
These candy-azzed liberals make me sick. I’m so tired of the ‘you’re mean’ line, like little schoolkids. If they can’t grow a pair, they should go borrow one.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 6:41 AM
Remember how fawning and deferential Rush was to Marco when he interviewed him.
It was a total Brian Williams/Obama lovefest.
renalin on May 22, 2013 at 6:56 AM
Rush really got suckered by Rubio’s schmooze. Hopefully, Rush realizes that by now.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:00 AM
morning KJ…another good one my friend :)
indeed
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 7:01 AM
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 7:01 AM
Thank you, ma’am!
kingsjester on May 22, 2013 at 7:11 AM
In kenya it’s not a big deal until you lie 9 times.
He has 4 more times to lie on this issue. After that he’ll have to eat dog and beat some women in order to atone to allah.
acyl72 on May 22, 2013 at 7:12 AM
We have a FORM of government that has the greatest expense and least benefit for that cost and it is no longer a preferable form of government and it inflicts upon us suffering by our creation of it. Government is, in its best of forms, a necessary evil only and the only good it can do is in the equal treatment of all men under the same law without favor nor fervor, but as a mere function of its being. There is no greater good that any government can do without destroying the liberty of man in its doing… when it goes from mere protector of the rights of man by law to seeking to enforce its will upon man and society it turns from a necessary evil to an absolute one.
That started decades ago.
Yet, in this modern age of being able to process information much more quickly, of being able to reach out to our fellow man in an instant, such authority can be withered far, far faster than it appeared if WE are but willing to be BETTER PEOPLE and depend not upon government for help that puts bias and favoritism into the law. Government is not protector of the weak, uplifter of the downtrodden nor is it the source of any good at all, for that is the heavy burden placed upon each and every single one of us to do on our own for the betterment of ourselves and our society. Making money in the service of offering better and cheaper goods and services to our fellow man is not an evil but a good, as it allows more and more to partake of that prosperity via profit in reward for creating such opportunity. We need a simple safeguard against thieves, not a guarantee of prosperity as that cannot be done by any government, ever, no matter how cleverly devised. Simple protection from our fellow man who seeks to take from us property, life and liberty in an unlawful fashion, who seeks mere enrichment of himself and not greater prosperity through creativity and cost cutting, that is a wrong that can and MUST be done by government lest society go lawless. If we had but equality of law and equal treatment under it without preference added save to protection of life and property from those seeking to seize and destroy each, then we would have the greatest benefit that government can offer.
Now we come to the conclusion of what happens when you invest morality in government and seek to make it the provider of good, and that is government becoming an absolute evil. Yet any society has within its power the ability to change or abolish a government that has become the cause of its misery. Short term pain is necessary to get long term gain and the securing of freedom and liberty because no matter what the size nor cost of the pain is, the loss of the freedom and liberty is a crime against man and all mankind by enslaving man to government for the purposes of the few and the ill of all. That is not a choice our children are to make.
It is a choice we must make within ourselves.
If we are to have a better government then we, the people, must make ourselves into better people and do without the outrages and inflicted morals of government upon us as those do us no good at all. Rather the self-inflicted pain of having to lead a good life to do good than the lash and chains of government saying it can do good in your name. No Nation built upon slaves ever did much good for them and that is the cost we must remember if nothing is done now, by us. The pain hasn’t even yet begun, but at least now we can start to clearly identify the source of our misery and call it for what it is: pure evil created from necessary evil by those seeking their own ends to enslave mankind to their ideals. No good has ever come of that.
ajacksonian on May 22, 2013 at 7:17 AM
So quit you effing liar. You have no credibility with anybody outside the West Wing because day after day you get up there and tell things that are not true. Live off the salary of your journalist wife while you figure out what you want to do when you decide to go legitimate and start working for a living you sissy boy bastard.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 7:18 AM
Let’s make it a 5K perp walk! Parade her up and down Constitution Avenue (where the IRS HQ is ironically located) and let any and all Americans who have been harmed by the woman get the chance to tell her off.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 7:22 AM
hola comrades! get your tickets to FEMA camp yet? Just got mine….they say “one way” though…hmmm?/
ted c on May 22, 2013 at 7:23 AM
I’m waiting for Carney to blow a gasket in front of all those reporters. Their pack mentality will kick in, and he’ll be their adversary. I wonder how he’d like facing a hostile press pool every day.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:25 AM
heh
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 7:28 AM
there is no scandal with the irs, just bunch of incompetent workers
-al hunt
c’mon
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 7:31 AM
Great way to earn good feelings from those workers. Hopefully some rogue agent will suddenly flag Mr. Hunt’s return for an audit.
The liberals need to be brought to heel at long last. After fifty years of their trash, their time is over. This applies especially to the media.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:34 AM
they helped to squelch the romney vote, so they were in fact extremely effective.
liars the lot of ‘em.
renalin on May 22, 2013 at 7:36 AM
That would be the same Al Hunt along with Eugene Robinson that proclaimed The GOP needs to pass this immigration bill for their own survival.
Guess they think the GOP is filled with a bunch of suckers…
CTSherman on May 22, 2013 at 7:38 AM
If McCain is any example, they’re right.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:40 AM
The chaos of multi scandals will most likely get the reimge out of any trouble they might have encountered with one scandal at a time. Also it allows amnesty to move along at warp speed since its now being ignored.
The sad thing is that four years later the commie regime still plays our side like a fiddle. They know how we will react to everything that happens and what course they will take to how we react.
In short they are miles ahead of us politically.
rodguy911 on May 22, 2013 at 7:43 AM
Unfortunately there are many more than just the old turtle.
CTSherman on May 22, 2013 at 7:45 AM
Some of us don’t intend to go quietly.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Watch it. You’ll get MJB and verby upset at you for speaking harshly. :)
kingsjester on May 22, 2013 at 7:51 AM
Yeah, Lerner is going to plead the Fifth today because of all the incompetent workers she had to deal with.
What is it going to take to wake up the ordinary stupid American? I work with very smart college-educated people but the level of ignorance when it comes to this stuff is appalling.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 7:52 AM
http://pjmedia.com/blog/immigration-bill-headed-to-senate-floor/?singlepage=true
The cut below from PJM shows that few in the Senate are really concerned about border security which is all important if we don’t want Mexifornia repeated at every border state we have in the country.
I was disappointed the Committee rejected an amendment I offered that would’ve required real border security results. Another promise from Washington, D.C., to secure the border won’t cut it,” he said. “I am deeply concerned about this and other flaws in the current proposal. I want the system to work for everyone, and I am hopeful that common sense will eventually lead to common ground.”
rodguy911 on May 22, 2013 at 7:54 AM
No one more ignorant than an ‘intellectual’.
Liam on May 22, 2013 at 7:54 AM
i hear ya all…good points the lot of you….
HA crew rocks
cmsinaz on May 22, 2013 at 8:01 AM
A live thread is necessary today.
However, please don’t drink every time Lois pleads the Fifth. Especially, if you’re at work.
kingsjester on May 22, 2013 at 8:06 AM
Or driving.
Can I be the first to say it…..
If Lois Lerner doesn’t have anything to hide, why doesn’t she answer the questions??? I mean this is supposed to be the most open government ever.
On a serious note, it is right and well that Lerner exercises the civil rights that she denied others by her actions as an agent of the federal government. But by doing so, she should no longer be in a position of authority or paid by the taxpayers. Congress is asking her questions related to her job and if she refuses to answer her employment should be terminated.
Happy Nomad on May 22, 2013 at 8:36 AM
Dunno; McCain? Graham? Can’t swing a dead cat in DC without hitting a GOP sucker/turncoat.
Midas on May 22, 2013 at 8:56 AM
I’d love for someone to ask Al what irrefutable journalistic evidence he used to come to that conclusion…
Anti-Control on May 22, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Has there ever been a bigger sucker/turncoat than Marco Rubio?
kingsjester on May 22, 2013 at 6:39 AM
Midas just beat me out… Yeah, Juan “Build the Danged Fence” McCain seems to be a contender for the ultimate sucker/turncoat grand champion title.
Fallon on May 22, 2013 at 9:18 AM
My dear friends and QOTD night crew, I am fine!
I am going through a very bad time right now.
I am going to take my leave to sort my self out.
Do not fret or worry, I will be fine.
God Bless each and every one of you!
Special thanks to Axe, Bmore, Jackie, Schad, Sparky, williamg, Fred, B9, ALT, Cozmo, canopfor, Sophie, Arnie, EG, angrymike and Marshfox along with Lila, INC Fallon and wolfsdad… :-)
God Bless you all, you have all been amazing, I have learned so much from each of you!!
See you on the flip side…
Stay Strong my friends and fight the good fight!!
Scrumpy on May 22, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Scrumpy,whatever it is, whatever your reasons for leaving HA, please give Axefellow your email address so that I can stay in contact with you. I hope you are well, Spritely One, and we will, all of us, miss you dearly.
thatsafactjack on May 22, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Nite Axe :)
Stay strong Scrumpy and come back soon, beloved lady.
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 1:38 PM
RTWT
Final graf:
AesopFan on May 22, 2013 at 2:55 PM
This one too: (this is what comes just before the part cited above)
AesopFan on May 22, 2013 at 3:01 PM
RTWT
AesopFan on May 22, 2013 at 3:09 PM
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