Oops: Massachusetts finds itself unable to locate 19,000 welfare recipients

posted at 5:11 pm on January 4, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

It’s been a particular hallmark of Obama’s presidenc,y and current Democratic trends in general, not merely to oppose the reform of the already and completely predictably spiraling welfare state, but to actively grow and expand it.

To paraphrase Churchill on the British Empire, Barack Obama did not become president of the United States to preside over the liquidation of the welfare state. On the contrary, he is dedicated to its expansion. He’s already created the largest new entitlement in half a century (Obamacare). And he has increased federal spending to an astronomical 24.4 percent of GDP (the postwar norm is about 20 percent), a level not seen since World War II.

Our total welfare spending has jumped astronomically since the start of Obama’s tenure, through methods both straightforward and stealthy, but one of the real kickers about all of this money passing through the hands of all of our ever-metastisizing bureaucracies is the not-fully-knowable amount undoubtedly being siphoned away through waste, fraud, and abuse. By a — er — happy accident, the state of Massachusetts alone has only recently discovered what could amount to thousands of fresh instances of welfare fraud and/or waste in their state, via the WFB:

And from Fox:

Governor Deval Patrick is downplaying the Department of Transitional Assistance admission that it could not locate 19,000 people who have either been receiving welfare benefits or have applied for them, saying the number represents a “broader class of people than those who are actually on the rolls today.” …

At a news conference, the Governor kept referring to the number of people whose addresses could not be located as just “four percent” of the mailings. …

A spokesman for the Executive Office of Health and Human Services says 11,262 people were either already off the rolls or had never been approved for benefits. It also says 7,738 were returned with forwarding addresses. Still, Governor Patrick says people should continue to have confidence in the state’s ability to oversee welfare benefits.

And they’re certainly not the only ones with welfare-related troubles consuming resources — heartwarming, no?


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Let’s put government in charge of handing out other people’s money.

tom daschle concerned on January 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM

There it is.

Mason on January 4, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Still, Governor Patrick says people should continue to have confidence in the state’s ability to oversee welfare benefits.

Why

California likely has some collecting in 5 counties, concurrently.

Schadenfreude on January 4, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Haven’t the polls closed in Massachusetts yet?

chickasaw42 on January 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM

More people need to be on welfare. Maybe its time we all apply, thereby seeing astronomical numbers of recipients.

Bmore on January 4, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Oops: Massachusetts finds itself unable to locate 19,000 welfare recipients

…the high cheeked squaw and big teeted Barney Frank will help the soon to be Secretary of Defense find them!

KOOLAID2 on January 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Why exactly are taxpayers being forced to pay for letters to parasites , begging them to vote ?
WHY ?

burrata on January 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM

So were the non-locatable addresses located in Boston Harbor? And how many of those mystery people voted?

stukinIL4now on January 4, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Governor Deval Patrick is downplaying the Department of Transitional Assistance admission that it could not locate 19,000 people who have either been receiving welfare benefits or have applied for them, saying the number represents a “broader class of people than those who are actually on the rolls today.

No worries, they’re also non-existent voters too.

rbj on January 4, 2013 at 5:24 PM

The Democratic party has to first create a huge demographic of poor people. Check!Then you create a crises every other month and blame the rich. Check! Next, full blown communism! Redistribution of income voted on by the 51%!!

Truth is greed needs to be redefined to wanting what ain’t yours. Lefties are the real greedy people in this country, full of envy, coveting theirs neighbors goods, wanting what they have not and can not earn.

odannyboy on January 4, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Governor Deval Patrick is downplaying the Department of Transitional Assistance admission that it could not locate 19,000 people who have either been receiving welfare benefits or have applied for them

Lemme guess,
all 19,000 of them are black or latinos ?
No wonder he is downplaying the fraud !

burrata on January 4, 2013 at 5:28 PM

autoplay FTL

Midas on January 4, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Are We There Yet? Luv, We’ve Been There!

M2RB: The B-52′s

Resist We Much on January 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM

No worries, they’re also non-existent voters too.

rbj on January 4, 2013 at 5:24 PM

-
Damn… beat me to it by 4 minutes.

The Dems must be Pi$$ed… They paid these fakes to vote, and they didn’t even do that job……. L.A.Z.Y. Guud 4 nut-inz.
-

RalphyBoy on January 4, 2013 at 5:31 PM

The responsible thing to do is immediately stop payments to those ‘missing’ who are receiving. Massachusetts will find them soon enough after that, guaranteed.

Liam on January 4, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Our total welfare spending has jumped astronomically since the start of Obama’s tenure,

No kidding!

I shopped COSTCO yesterday — third of the month — and it was packed with elderly Asian people and Hispanic women and couples pushing baby-carriages…

…all of whom were flooding the “free food” counters and most of them not speaking English.

I like Asian cultures, don’t get me wrong, have lived and been happy living among several of them for many years of my life in various places, so it’s not the race and/or ethnicities I’m focusing on here but that the people recently inflooding COSTCO are obviouisly either new-arrivals to the U.S. or they’re people who have recently “come out of the woodwork” or the hiding-that-certain-groups-provide-to-their-own.

COSTCO started accepting Food Stamps/use of EBT cards not too long ago and this is why the crowds at COSTCO have noticably changed on certain days of every month to non-English speaking flocks of people who are obviously dependent on U.S. taxpayers to feed them.

These are the people who voted for Obama, along with the celebrity-Left who have their own image heavily invested in OBama. Lots and lots of dependent people and many of them from other nations here now in the U.S. because we feed, house and pay them well to remain out of work, or, to work for unions, which equates to the same troubling circumstances of being ruled by someone who doles out the goodies.

Lourdes on January 4, 2013 at 5:32 PM

“Obama: We can’t cut our way to prosperity.”

Nope…

… not one single $0.05.

Seven Percent Solution on January 4, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Correction.

“Obama: I can’t cut our way to prosperity.”

Bmore on January 4, 2013 at 5:33 PM

MA Governor Deval Patrick makes Barack Obama look like a competent man. Many see Deval as our next black president.

philw1776 on January 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM

That money was spent in the economy and saved millions of jobs.//

docflash on January 4, 2013 at 5:35 PM

ROFL the NAZI democrat from the failed democrat state of California photoshopped blacks into her stupid picture.

Ignorant racist b1tch.

tom daschle concerned on January 4, 2013 at 5:23 PM

LMAO I didn’t know Debbie Wasserman-Schultz is black!

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on January 4, 2013 at 5:35 PM

can’t they just use the voter rolls to verify addresses? we know there is no such thing as voter fraud (I heard it on MSNBC so it must be true).

And before I hit the enter button, I have to say that I laugh at “Department of Transitional Assistance”…multi-year “transitions” give me one of those Chris Matthews “tingles”.

teejk on January 4, 2013 at 5:35 PM

i suggest tracking them at the last strip club or liquor store they swiped their EBT card at- or the last time they used it to get bail money….should be easy.

mittens on January 4, 2013 at 5:35 PM

The responsible thing to do is immediately stop payments to those ‘missing’ who are receiving. Massachusetts will find them soon enough after that, guaranteed.

Liam on January 4, 2013 at 5:32 PM

I don’t know much about the Food Stamp program and other welfare programs but there HAS to be some payout (benefit) going to those who aren’t recipients but who are players in these programs.

I mean by that that, with Food Stamps, I am guessing that there are benefits going to “others” from Food Stamps who are NOT the recipients of them. And likely also as to “welfare” in general.

Because, like that woman who was in the news recently who was arrested after trying to steal iPods from stores after she couldn’t “pay for them” with her EBT card, people, names who commit fraud on these programs or otherwise violate the ethics involved seem to remain on the roles despite their violations. Is anyone ever really kicked-off these programs…for ANYthing?

Do states such as Massachusetts (not to mention others) ever remove names from the roles of their welfare programs? As to the federal, with Food Stamps (which are administered by ind. states, I do know that much), same goes…it seems they want to keep recipient numbers high and avoid removing just about anyone from the programs, though I don’t know why.

Lourdes on January 4, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Maybe if the newspaper had made a map of all the people on welfare, this could have been avoided….

ChrisL on January 4, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Oops: Massachusetts finds itself unable to locate 19,000 welfare recipients

That’s not entirely true. Massachusetts determined 19,000 welfare recipients are not living at their registered address. Rather than being unable to locate them it would be extremely easy to locate most of them by just stopping the deposits of money in their accounts and they’ll be located in no time — at the state welfare offices.

Dusty on January 4, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Let’s put government in charge of handing out other people’s money.

tom daschle concerned on January 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM

I wonder how many people are collecting from multiple states.

dogsoldier on January 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM

I wonder how many people are collecting from multiple states.

dogsoldier on January 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM

And actually residing in other countries, like, for example, in Mexico.

Lourdes on January 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Governor ‘Coupe’ Deval (so named because he eschewed the standard Crown Vic when he first came into office in exchange for a Caddy,) is simply Obama writ small. An effete, disdainful little ‘Mini Me’ who single-handledly pushed through in-state tuition for illegal aliens, safe in the knowledge that the Mass electorate will forgive him everything, so long as he keeps sticking it to the working class to pay for the leaching class.

And it’s just about preordained that he will be running in 2016…

CaptFlood on January 4, 2013 at 5:53 PM

If they’re reporting 19,000…double it.

LOOTERS UNITE!!!

I’ve said it more than a few times over the years…

‘This Country Needs an Enema!!’

BigWyo on January 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Do they speak Spanish perhaps…?
I’ll bet many are the same person.

NeoKong on January 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM

For Future reference

BigWyo on January 4, 2013 at 5:57 PM

There are 49 other states.

portlandon on January 4, 2013 at 6:03 PM

BRAVO to Massachusetts State Rep. Shaunna O’Connell (R – Taunton MA) for shining a bright light on this issue!

Once Rep. O’Connell is done cleaning up welfare waste and abuse in Massachusetts, would the Massachusetts voters please send her to the U.S. Congress to help Rep. Paul Ryan to fix our ever increasing national debt?

Let’s keep Massachusetts Rep. Shaunna O’Connell on our radar screens fellow Hot Airians, so we can support her in future elections.

We need to encourage more of this type of fiscally responsible thinking!

wren on January 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM

There are 49 other states.

WRONG!

According to Jug Ears there are 56 “other states”.

GreatCommunicator on January 4, 2013 at 6:09 PM

the moral reprobates that identify as democrat think collecting from multiple states is a recreational sport. there should be a mortal penalty for that.

tom daschle concerned on January 4, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Here is a link to Massachusetts State Rep. Shaunna O’Connell’s website, where you can learn more about her:

http://www.shaunnaoconnell.com/

wren on January 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Hilarious. ‘just 4%’, means 475k on welfare, in a state with only 6.5M. So 7%+ of MAssholes are on welfare.

rayra on January 4, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Massachusetts has estimated 116K dead voters on its rolls

Robert_Paulson on January 4, 2013 at 5:18 PM

That’s about 3-4% of their roll. Elections there have been closer than that. Margin of Fraud. And you cn be damned sure those phony registrants are cast overwhelmingly for Marxicrats.

rayra on January 4, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Let’s keep Massachusetts Rep. Shaunna O’Connell on our radar screens fellow Hot Airians, so we can support her in future elections.

We need to encourage more of this type of fiscally responsible thinking!

wren on January 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Not that it matters much, but a very nice looking woman too.

Alabama Infidel on January 4, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Dónde están?

Wigglesworth on January 4, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Why exactly are taxpayers being forced to pay for letters to parasites , begging them to vote ?
WHY ?

burrata on January 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM

This money probably came from Obysmal’s Organizing for America to insure that he had plenty of support at the polls.

I wonder how many of those welfare recipients work the seasonal jobs in the warmer weather, collect their welfare/unemployment benefits, and then head to sunnier climates in the winter to work during that season.

How many people do Aunt Zetuni and the drunken uncle count as?

That was a good interview. Kudos to the questioner for the quality of the queries and the courtesy to listen to a reply, as well as to the respresentative from Taunton. She was well-prepared with information.

onlineanalyst on January 4, 2013 at 6:17 PM

You all will be pleased to know that here in MI there was some sort of “human error” that zeroed out 85,000 EBT cards this week. They are fixing it and it should all be fixed by tomorrow. The radio news report said, “this affected 10% of the EBT card recipients”. So we have almost a MILLION people collecting the “food stamps” of modern day.

Hammock anyone? Obviously our safety nets have been upgraded.

karenhasfreedom on January 4, 2013 at 6:24 PM

it was then on the campaign trail dizzy lizzy warren’s daughter who got the tax payer funded welfare voter drive implemented… but this was instantaneously sucked down the fake indian/ moonbat memory hole…

mittens on January 4, 2013 at 6:44 PM

WRONG!

According to Jug Ears there are 56 “other states”.

GreatCommunicator on January 4, 2013 at 6:09 PM

WRONG!

According to Jug Ears there are 55 “other states”…because, at some point, we gave Hawaii to “Asia.”

lol

Resist We Much on January 4, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Our beloved Governor, Cadillac Deval Patrick, is putting out his transportation “plan” in a couple of week — the state is currently 1 BILLION in debt and he is going to announce “revenue sources” to make up this debt. (Keep in mind, the roads and bridges in the state are crumbling around us and there are already outrageous tolls on the multiple-times paid-for Mass turnpike). Raising the state income tax, raising the state gas tax and yes, even a vehicle mileage tax are in Deval’s fantasies. So I’ll get to pay for the “privilege” of driving to work to pay more taxes for the ever-increasing number of welfare recipients of dubious legal citizen status. And we keep electing boobs like Deval and the fake Indian, Liz Warren. What a country.

drewinmass on January 4, 2013 at 6:49 PM

As to the federal, with Food Stamps (which are administered by ind. states, I do know that much), same goes…it seems they want to keep recipient numbers high and avoid removing just about anyone from the programs, though I don’t know why.

Lourdes on January 4, 2013 at 5:39 PM

The Obama administration reportedly had a program in place which was rewarding states bonus money for increasing their food stamp rolls by a certain amount.

Don’t know if the bonus scheme is still in place after the adverse publicity it received, but crap like that explains why the states are loathe to remove recipients, even those who are demonstrably fraudulent/non-existent.

AZCoyote on January 4, 2013 at 6:49 PM

The radio news report said, “this affected 10% of the EBT card recipients”. So we have almost a MILLION people collecting the “food stamps” of modern day.

karenhasfreedom on January 4, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Karen, EBT cards are more than just food stamps. This is also welfare and unemployment payments. It’s the fourth of January. Many of the parasites effected must be beside themselves with outrage that they haven’t been rewarded for mooching off of society for the month of January.

Happy Nomad on January 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM

karenhasfreedom on January 4, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Happy Nomad on January 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM

In case it wasn’t clear enough. I’m done for having compassion, sympathy, or empathy with anybody not pulling their own weight in this world or trying to do so. My paycheck took a huge hit this week and it is only the beginning of what I will have to fork out in deductions since so many worthless human beings have banded together and refused to work or do anything to help themselves out of a welfare culture. They can all rot in the gutter for all I care.

Happy Nomad on January 4, 2013 at 6:53 PM

And actually residing in other countries, like, for example, in Mexico.

Lourdes on January 4, 2013 at 5:50 PM

A few years ago, I read a story in a local paper about a border town in Texas, where dozens of Mexicans would walk across the border on the first of every month to go to one of those stores where people can rent a P.O. box, so they could pick up their U.S. welfare checks.

I guess direct deposit has made that a thing of the past. Good to know that foreigners don’t have to inconvenience themselves these days in order to rip off U.S. taxpayers.

AZCoyote on January 4, 2013 at 6:56 PM

And on another note..

I don’t live there so I don’t give a #hit….

BigWyo on January 4, 2013 at 7:12 PM

I have an idea…lets get a newspaper to publish the names of those on welfare! I sure would like to know if my kids are playing with cheats, frauds and slackers….especially if they are also illegal aliens!

devan95 on January 4, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Hey BigWyo, Are you telling me you don’t have EBT cards in Wyoming? And you don’t think there are illegals there getting said benefits? I don’t live there? You most certainly do, son. Start giving a bleep.

drewinmass on January 4, 2013 at 7:28 PM

For those of you who don’t know… these 19K were identified after letters informing ‘folks’ to vote were sent out to all recipients of welfare as ‘required’ by a progressive organization (sorry can’t remember the name right now). This ‘requirement’ was ignored by other states.. but since Fauxcohantas Warren’s daughter was a leader for this group… Massachusetts complied.
Most folks would be incensed… unfortunately my fellow voters in Massachusetts probably don’t see a problem…

unaffiliated on January 4, 2013 at 8:04 PM

ROFL The NAZI democrat from the failed democrat state of California photoshopped blacks into her stupid picture.

Ignorant racist b1tch.

tom daschle concerned on January 4, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Now, THAT’s just silly: There’s enough blacks in the two photos – including the altered one before the alteration – to exonerate Pelosi of any ‘racist’ charges, at least on that account.

PersonFromPorlock on January 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM

For Pete’s sake, stop the whole program, and start over with more restrictions in order to stop the frauds. We are broke, remember?

Amazingoly on January 4, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Imagine if Obama had created as many jobs as he has professional welfare recipients?

BruthaMan on January 4, 2013 at 10:41 PM

Let’s put government in charge of handing out other people’s money.

tom daschle concerned on January 4, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Hey, how about putting government in charge of health care? What could gone wrong, er, uh… Oh, well.

HiJack on January 4, 2013 at 11:01 PM

I am so tired of my fellow citizens voting to spend me into ruin.

Yes the politians are awful, but the voters are truly to blame. We would have this debt mess if they’d been more responsible.

LilyBart on January 5, 2013 at 12:13 AM

I have an idea…lets get a newspaper to publish the names of those on welfare! I sure would like to know if my kids are playing with cheats, frauds and slackers….especially if they are also illegal aliens!

devan95 on January 4, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Since freedom and privacy are out the window – I’m behind this idea.

I’d like to know which of my friends and neighbors have their hands in my pocket so I can treat them accordingly.

LilyBart on January 5, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Since Democrats seem to be following the Cloward-Piven strategy of overloading the system in order to bring it crumbling down, it’s hard to ascribe their current policies to anything other than malice.

If they aren’t actively trying to bring America to her knees, why is it that everything they do seemed geared towards producing that speficic result?

Unless someone can tell me how $16 trillion in debt, trillion dollar plus deficits every year, continuing increases in government spending, huge increases in unemployment and food stamps and choking the life out of the economy to prevent an economic recovery results in anything other than an impending total, economic collapse?

I keep wondering when the media will start asking Reid, Pelosi, Obama, etc- “are you deliberately trying to destroy America or are you really this incompetent?”

Jay Mac on January 5, 2013 at 5:20 AM

Sho’ me da money!

Sherman1864 on January 5, 2013 at 8:01 AM

MA Governor Deval Patrick makes Barack Obama look like a competent man. Many see Deval as our next black president.

philw1776 on January 4, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Maybe. I’m putting my money on Supreme Court Appointment.

scituate_tgr on January 5, 2013 at 10:24 AM

They should look in New York and California to see who’s getting two checks.

TimBuk3 on January 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM

On another note.

All 19,000 missing residents voted democrat.

The government worker studying this thought it odd that all
voted the same but noted that it was just coincidence.

acyl72 on January 6, 2013 at 12:03 PM