Hey, let’s avoid the debt-ceiling standoff by minting a trillion-dollar platinum coin instead

posted at 4:23 pm on January 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

Words cannot express my excitement that this banana-republic idea is now being taken seriously enough to attract vocal support from a sitting Democratic congressman. If you’re looking for a way to convince the public that the left has no interest whatsoever in reducing spending before we face a fiscal meltdown, you can’t do better than having Obama and Geithner respond to the GOP’s demand for cuts by producing a de facto handful of magic beans.

In fact, that’s my condition for supporting this proposal. I’ll back it to the hilt, but only if the masterminds behind it figure out a constitutional way to let Treasury choose beans as the trillion-dollar currency instead of a coin. That’ll show those Republicans.

“There is specific statutory authority that says that the Federal Reserve can mint any non-gold or -silver coin in any denomination, so all you do is you tell the Federal Reserve to make a platinum coin for one trillion dollars, and then you deposit it in the Treasury account, and you pay your bills,” Nadler said in a telephone interview this afternoon.

I asked whether he was serious.

“I’m being absolutely serious,” he said. “It sounds silly but it’s absolutely legal. And it would normally not be proper to consider such a thing, except when you’re faced with blackmail to destroy the country’s economy, you have to consider things.”

By “things,” he means magic coins, not Medicare reform. Over at National Journal, a jittery Matthew Cooper wonders if the optics of all this might not be counterproductive for Democrats:

As bad as the House behavior has been, using a small legal provision meant to please numismatists to leverage the nation’s debts seems, um, risky. The only analogy I can think of is the Court-packing mess of the 1930s when President Roosevelt, faced with a cranky Supreme Court that overturned his social-welfare programs and those in the states, tried to enlarge the size of the Court to fill it with more sympathetic appointees. After an outcry, the president backed down. But FDR at least tried to make the change by proposing a statute and forcing a Senate debate. (The bill never cleared the chamber.)

Minting the coins would seem even more imperious. After all, the Supreme Court in the 1930s was knocking down state minimum-wage laws and other expressions of the popular will. FDR had some momentum behind him. But President Obama would look despotic if he embraced this tactic. (Imagine all the pictures of King Obama on a coin.)

I assume the reason they’re thinking about a coin worth “only” a trillion instead of $10 trillion is because, you see, a $10 trillion coin would be exorbitant and sound crazy.

Via Mediaite, here’s Rick Santelli proving his extremism by wondering why people who refuse to mindlessly extend the nation’s line of credit while we’re on an unsustainable fiscal track are the “lunatics” in this debate. Exit question: Am I giving American voters way, way too much credit in thinking they’d laugh at the trillion-dollar coin idea? At this point, given the results in November, what’s the best result poll-wise we could hope for? 55-45 against?


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so glad i voted for Cruz

burserker on May 23, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Yea. Not.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 23, 2013 at 7:10 PM

You survived, so be happy.

Geesh, yankees and their whining…

cozmo on May 23, 2013 at 7:16 PM

cozmo on May 23, 2013 at 7:16 PM

I’m not whining. we’re supposed to get hit w/ some major weather this weekend-and for the first time this year…the local weather chick mentioned the potential for…tornadoes.

Awesome!
*crosses fingers.*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 23, 2013 at 7:19 PM

But McCain as GOP nominee, essentially and I am convinced of this, was purposed to elect the Democrat, Obama.

Lourdes on May 23, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I agree and Romney was selected for Obama’s re-election imo.

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 7:20 PM

cozmo on May 23, 2013 at 7:16 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 23, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Have you two and any others from Texas seen this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3022970/posts

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Awesome!
*crosses fingers.*

annoyinglittletwerp on May 23, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Yeah, you won’t be thinking that if it happens noob. You are in exactly the wrong kind of terrain to want that.

Never seen a tornado, and don’t want to. Grapefruit sized hail was bad enough.

cozmo on May 23, 2013 at 7:22 PM

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 7:22 PM

I’ve seen it. Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

annoyinglittletwerp on May 23, 2013 at 7:30 PM

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 7:22 PM

There are good and bad to those bills.

The one I am most familiar with is the third one. I make it a point to avoid toll roads. I figure when 0bama leaves office and the economy improves, most of the yankees who are clogging up the roads will go back to where they came from.

The rainy day fund is over funded as it is. The reporting of contributors is over rated and I think they should remove the exclusion for labor groups. I think full disclosure is alright, especially when it removes caps.

cozmo on May 23, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Reid: “Will no one rid me of this turbulent senator?”

applebutter on May 23, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I absolutely adore Ted Cruz. He makes me so proud that he’s a member of the Senate. Thank you Texas for sending him there. He is carrying on in the spirit of Ronald Reagan. He eloquently makes his points without resorting to hyperbole and name-calling, something from which McCain and the other Democrats cannot refrain. He is always upbeat and good-humored and he commands respect as a result.

GeorgiaBuckeye on May 23, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Yes! Finally, a national politician that gets it!

JeffPBlues on May 23, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Team Cruz

WhatSlushfund on May 23, 2013 at 8:07 PM

But McCain as GOP nominee, essentially and I am convinced of this, was purposed to elect the Democrat, Obama.

Lourdes on May 23, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I agree and Romney was selected for Obama’s re-election imo.

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I disagree with that, bluefox. McCain, clearly Left, even outright encouraging voters to support Obama (“my friends, you have nothing to fear from an Obama Presidency”).

Romney, no, my opinion is he really wanted the Presidency, as did Ryan the VPcy. They appear to have been burdened once again with the Progressive goals of the Progressives in the GOP.

Lourdes on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

How old I this POS?Do we have any hope?

redware on May 23, 2013 at 8:28 PM

I wish SC had him instead of Grahamnesty. The latter is a sell-out and a fraud.

Conservchik on May 23, 2013 at 8:36 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on May 23, 2013 at 7:30 PM

So true and we’re certainly seeing it from D.C. Glad you had a chance to see that article.

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 8:39 PM

As is usually the case with McCain, the excessive nastiness in his criticism leaves you wondering how much of this is about policy and procedure and how much of it is driven by deeper personal dislike.

I get that the Senate is seniority-based and for McCain he abhors first term Senators speaking. Like children they should be seen and not heard. But there comes a point when this isn’t defending the institution and nothing more than a cranky old bastard attacking people he hates. We are at that point. Good for Cruz for poking a stick at the fossil!

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:43 PM

cozmo on May 23, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Sounds like you’re on top of things out there. I was concerned with the Senate Bill 346 (SB 346) since it is designed to discourage people from giving to Tea Party groups who wish to replace RINO’s with conservatives. It is a Saul Alinsky device to identify donors so they can be targeted and then discouraged from giving to conservatives.

A commenter on the site said: Looks like SB 346 is sponsored by these two RINO’s:
Sen Kel Selinger (Rino – Amarillo)
Sen Charlie Geren (Rino – Fort Worth)

I would hope that Gov. Perry will veto this or else it becomes law by 5/23/13.

Anytime I see anything that is against or limits the Tea Parties, I suspect Rove & Co:-)

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 8:46 PM

A good speech and some nice legs.

Sherman1864 on May 23, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Romney, no, my opinion is he really wanted the Presidency, as did Ryan the VPcy. They appear to have been burdened once again with the Progressive goals of the Progressives in the GOP.

Lourdes on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

I agree. I think the strategy was to be clear in the difference of maker vs. taker, and thought the majority of Americans could easily see where the country would go with 4 more years of communist lite.
He was wrong and rightfully shocked, as I was, that Obama won.

The biggest mistake in our history. Lazy purists and just plain lazy detached people have allowed the republic to burn.

Mimzey on May 23, 2013 at 8:49 PM

They appear to have been burdened once again with the Progressive goals of the Progressives in the GOP.

Lourdes on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

That’s true too and makes one wonder why doesn’t it? I can’t recall many R’s from the House or Senate that campaigned for Romney or publically supported him tho. I do recall them criticizing him about Benghazi tho:-)

However, Gingrich campaigned for him:-)

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 8:50 PM

I wish SC had him instead of Grahamnesty. The latter is a sell-out and a fraud.

Conservchik on May 23, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Do you think Trey Gowdy might run for the Senate against Graham?

bluefox on May 23, 2013 at 8:54 PM

I want to have his baby.

Theworldisnotenough on May 23, 2013 at 9:17 PM

McCain enabled Obama he could not bring himself to call out Obama’s commie roots or his radical past.

He does manage to low dog any and all conservatives in the Republican Party.

Blame him for his sins.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 23, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Cruz is giving conservatives a great gift… A slow and painful coronary to the senior Sen from AZ.

katy on May 23, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Just remember that when John McLame calls you “friend,” what he means
is “You stupid-ignorant dumb-a$$ not worthy of my attention.”

shorebird on May 23, 2013 at 9:53 PM

We have to draft Trey Gowdy! If we South Carolinians want to have a shot at getting rid of Lefty Lindsey,Gowdy is the only one who could do it!

redware on May 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Bravo. McCain is disgusting.

kunegetikos on May 23, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Johnny McCain or Jimmy Carville…

Which trusts Obama mostest, Hobbitses?

ndanielson on May 23, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Bravo. McCain is disgusting.

kunegetikos on May 23, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Hobbit!

ndanielson on May 23, 2013 at 10:20 PM

I get that the Senate is seniority-based and for McCain he abhors first term Senators speaking. Like children they should be seen and not heard. But there comes a point when this isn’t defending the institution and nothing more than a cranky old bastard attacking people he hates. We are at that point. Good for Cruz for poking a stick at the fossil!

Happy Nomad on May 23, 2013 at 8:43 PM

McCain’s a spoiled princess who needs to learn to suck it up regrading Cruz, just like his other Senatorial friend with escalating dementia, Harry Reid.

Anti-Control on May 23, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Man, when the trolls are reduced to spouting gibberish they must be in bad shape.

All you do is spout.

alanstern on May 23, 2013 at 10:28 PM

redware on May 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM

It would be great if Trey Gowdy would primary Graham, but it will not happen. Graham has the SC State Pub. party in his pocket and they are not about to let a congressman primary Lucy Graham. Gowdy would be committing political suicide if he lost the primary. The person to primary Lucy would be Demint. Demint culd beat Lucy in a primary and would have the support of tea parties from across the USA who hate Lucy. Demint also helped others get elected and they owe him. All Demint has to do is to say, Lindsay Graham is not a conservative and SC needs a conservative Sen. to represent their values and to support conservatism, and Lucy is not representing SC voters, he is representing the special interests. SC voters need to put pressure on Demint to primary Lucy.

they lie on May 23, 2013 at 10:39 PM

McCain is worse than “fundamentally flawed” in the political sense. There has always been something very wrong with his character, which is one of extreme “me-first-and-only” self-entitlement. He was wrongfully admitted to the Naval Academy with bad grades ahead of more qualified applicants because his daddy and granddaddy were admirals. Rules that apply to ordinary people don’t apply to him. He thumbed his nose at Annapolis because he couldn’t be kicked out or flunked out, because he was JOHN MCCAIN, son and grandson of ADMIRALS. He ignored orders and crashed planes, because he couldn’t be disciplined as the son and grandson of admirals. He ditched the wife who stood by him, when he wanted a rich blonde chick young enough to be his daughter, who could finance his political ambition.

He was caught taking bribes to his wife from the Keating 5, so tried to cover his tracks by imposing the McCain-Feingold nonsense on everyone else (laws only apply to everyone else, not to JOHN MCCAIN). He entertained a blonde lobbyist in ways that worried his staff, and improperly pressured the FCC for her in exchange for …., because he is JOHN MCCAIN!!!!!!. He yelled obscenities at other senators who questioned ramming his McCain-Kennedy amnesty through the Senate in the dead of night without debate, and screamed he knew more about it than anyone else – because he is JOHN MCCAIN, a legend in his own mind !!!!!! He has had secret no press allowed meetings to praise Mexico as our dearest friend and closest neighbor, calling enforcement of the laws “Rhetoric”.

As president, McCain, like the man he helped elect. Barack Obama, would have tried to rule by fiat and would make Hugo Chavez look like George Washington. Like the Alice in Wonderland Queen of Hearts, if any GOP congresscritter disagreed with him “OFF WITH HER HEAD- I’m JOHN MCCAIN, KING OF THE UNIVERSE!!!” There has always been something consistently very wrong with McCain’s character. Through it all, this lying unreliable self-aggrandizing megalomaniac poses as a “straight talker”, and is so sick, he probably believes it himself, because he is JOHN MCCAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!, son and grandson of ADMIRALS.

RasThavas on May 23, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Excellent post!

Anti-Control on May 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Romney, no, my opinion is he really wanted the Presidency, as did Ryan the VPcy. They appear to have been burdened once again with the Progressive goals of the Progressives in the GOP.

Lourdes on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

I agree. I think the strategy was to be clear in the difference of maker vs. taker, and thought the majority of Americans could easily see where the country would go with 4 more years of communist lite.
He was wrong and rightfully shocked, as I was, that Obama won.

The biggest mistake in our history. Lazy purists and just plain lazy detached people have allowed the republic to burn.

Mimzey on May 23, 2013 at 8:49 PM

It’s reaaly difficult to defeat an incumbent. Romney deserves a lot of credit for trying. Unfortunately Obama’s media support, and the near universal support of the black community made him impossible to defeat.
There were also some notes about very high black turnout in the past election. Given the remarkable 100% turnout in some black precincts in places like Philadelphia which then went 100% for Obama, and the reports of people like the Ohio Democrat who admitted to casting multiple ballots for Obama, one has to wonder how much of a role voter fraud played as well.

talkingpoints on May 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM

So glad Cruz is in the Senate. He and a couple others are slowing down the destruction Reid/Schumer/Durbin/Graham/McCain are orchestrating. It’s nice to see what a “minority of the minority” can do.
It’s be nice to see what the majority of House could do.

ritewhit on May 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

McCain is an idiot wrapped up in a moron. He is so deluded and a severe lack of common sense. Hopefully some Tea Party Conservative will primary his ass out of the Senate

hamradio on May 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Can’t McConnell get McCain to sit down and shut up? He’s become a full-blown obnoxious and self-righteous a-hole.
Somebody please….tackle him would ya?

lynncgb on May 23, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Why would the chinless wonder want to silence McLame? They’re on the same (other) side.

The senate is the ultimate Old Boy’s Club, and being senator has got to be the sweetest job in the world. Get elected once and the odds are heavily in your favor that the seat is yours for life. As long as you don’t, you know, make any waves. McConnell doesn’t like the wacko-birds any more than McLame, but with the need to get re-elected coming up he’s doing the traditional “Look-At-Me-I’m-A-Conservative” butching-up that all the GOPe’s seem to do right before elections. Think he likes Rand Paul either?

bofh on May 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Romney, no, my opinion is he really wanted the Presidency, as did Ryan the VPcy. They appear to have been burdened once again with the Progressive goals of the Progressives in the GOP.

Lourdes on May 23, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Romney’s “past” – which he didn’t actively work to discredit early on – also wound up a burden. As did his reaffirming stand on Romneycare. His staff wasn’t the best, either.

Myron Falwell on May 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM

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