Great news: Federally-permitted lightbulbs a cancer risk

posted at 1:01 pm on January 4, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Legislate in haste … repent at leisure. In their haste to rid Americans of the unconscionable plague of perfectly safe if somewhat inefficient incandescent lighting, politicians in Washington have forced us to adopt more expensive technology in its place. Compact flourescent lighting (CFLs) are already known to be a considerable disposal risk, thanks to the mercury used in them. A new study reported earlier this week by Miami’s CBS affiliate warns of an operational risk as well — ultraviolet radiation that can cause skin cancers and even acute burns (via Katie Pavlich):

Every time you turn on the lights, you may be putting yourself at risk, according to a disturbing new study.

Energy efficient bulbs are eco-friendly and can save you big bucks, but experts say that some could also have a dark side.

Actually, they’re not all that eco-friendly, as even the government acknowledges.  The EPA wants to argue that the release of mercury from CFLs in disposal is less than that released from the burning of the amount of coal one saves by using them.  That may well be true overall, but not if one breaks in your house.  At that point, you need to conduct an hours-long cleanup — and even if you want to dispose of an unbroken CFL, it takes special disposal in most jurisdictions due to the eco-unfriendly nature of CFLs.

And now, it takes special instructions to use them, too:

Money saving, compact fluorescent light bulbs emit high levels of ultra violet radiation, according to a new study. Research at Long Island’s Stony Brook found that the bulbs emit rays so strong that they can actually burn skin and skin cells.

“The results were that you could actually initiate cell death,” said Marcia Simon, a Professor of Dermatology.

Exposure to the bulbs could lead to premature aging and skin cancer, according to doctors.

“It can also cause skin cancer in the deadliest for, and that’s melanoma,” said Dr. Rebecca Tung.

Well, these are just the defective CFLs, right?  The outsides are coated to block UV radiation.  And that’s true, but …

In every bulb that researchers tested they found that the protective coating around the light creating ‘phosphor’ was cracked, allowing dangerous ultraviolet rays to escape.

So what can you do?  Stay away from them:

Stony Brook researches advised that customers exercise caution and stay two feet away from the bulbs at all times, while storing them in an overhead fixture or lamp.

Gee … maybe Congress should have thought to check this out before regulating incandescents out of existence.


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The answer is obvious that mankind needs to adapt to be able to see in the dark.

weaselyone on January 4, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Any day now.

Evolution is on the job.

Solaratov on January 4, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Incandescent bulbs are a thing of the past. It’s time to let go and find something important to get worked up about.

OxyCon on January 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM

If this statement were true, there would be no need for the government to regulate them out of existence in our market.

weaselyone on January 4, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Does Obamacare pay for disease caused by the EPA?

DaveDief on January 4, 2013 at 2:38 PM

No, but those with EPA induced diseases get expedited to the death panel.

LetsBfrank on January 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM

meanwhile I am trying to find a replacement system for the 75 watt bulb I kept near oil tank filter that I turned on when it was below 0F out to prevent gelling.
meanwhile the loss of heat from me stupidly swapping to cfl 2-3 yrs ago makes my furnace run more in winter.
I fell for that crap a few years ago and kick myself for it.

for a bit I was swapping to cfl in summer and back to older in winter but the new light fixtures are hard to find incandescent for.

dmacleo on January 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM

dmacleo on January 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM
I swapped out the multiple 100W incandescents in my shop and garage and replaced them with CFLs. During the winter time, and even during cooler spring/fall times I have to leave the lights on all the time because the CFLs simply take too long to heat up to the point where I can see. All the benefit of lower electricity use and longer life is negated when you have to leave them on to realiably provide light.

weaselyone on January 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Been stockpiling incandescents for years now. Wouldn’t have those mercury bulbs near my house.

Like anything the Gov tells me I should or have to do, I run as fast as possible in the opposite direction.

Margarine is another perfect example…

seesalrun2 on January 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Stocked up on many cases of various wattage and 3-way incandescent bulbs before the Government ban was to go into effect — the first time. Then we bought a few more cases after the temporary reprieve that is now over. We should have enough incandescent bulbs for the rest of our lifetime(s) — and even the majority of our children’s adult lifetime(s) when they inherit the bulbs after we croak.

CFL bulbs are used outside in the porch lights and pathway lights only. For the long dark nights around my house. They’re actually quite bright for such low wattage bulbs and the electric bill did drop about 20 bucks a month since we deployed them outdoors. Might as well be 2-bits as far as I’m concerned though. 20 bucks is chump change.

Wanna buy a case of 40-watt/60-watt/75-watt/100-watt/3-way incandescent bulbs? Perhaps a case or two of 40-watt/60-watt/100-watt incandescent indoor reflector bulbs for the family/dining/study room or studio?

Cheap!

Cheap as in they’re no longer available for purchase in stores in the USA. I suspect that there potentially could be scads of black market money to be made in the not too distant future. Especially if you live near the Mexico border and incandescent bulbs aren’t on the banned contraband list with the likes of cocaine and heroin — yet.

Free shipping to anywhere in the continental USA if you buy more than one case! Sorry Alaska and Hawaii — you’ll have to pay the full shipping.

muahahahahahahaaaa

SD Tom on January 4, 2013 at 3:08 PM

The end game is LED bulbs. The cost is still way too high, but they don’t burn out.

MarkT on January 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM

The end game is LED bulbs. The cost is still way too high, but they don’t burn out.

MarkT on January 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Please follow the provided link and read the article.

SWalker on January 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Dern, I didn’t know that about LED’s until now.

The Dark Side of LED Lightbulbs
, Scientific American

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM

SWalker on January 4, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Please follow the provided link and read the article.

SWalker on January 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Dern, I didn’t know that about LED’s until now.

The Dark Side of LED Lightbulbs , Scientific American

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM

SWalker on January 4, 2013 at 3:18 PM

That article is ridiculous.

They cite the danger of copper because it (brace yourselves) might end up accumulating in rivers. Or the dangers of nickel given that some people have an allergy to it.

Then there’s the lead, but you’d need to go around huffing broken LEDs to present any actual risk to yourself. Same goes with the arsenic.

And all of this is even more ridiculous considering LED lights are the hardest to break. They aren’t some brittle incandescent or a wackadoodle CFL we’re talking about here. The diodes themselves are small and rugged, which is why they’ve been used in electronics for decades.

And, by the way, if we applied the same level of scrutiny to incandescent light bulbs, you’d probably have a heart attack at the toxic chemicals let loose when you break one of those things.

Nessuno on January 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Time to hold who ever came up with this idea in the first place accountable…

Seven Percent Solution on January 4, 2013 at 4:00 PM

i thought the R party had fixed all this?…and that Fred Upton apologized and said he didn’t Mean to do any Harm?

/s

r keller on January 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM

That may well be true overall, but not if one breaks in your house. At that point, you need to conduct an hours-long cleanup — and even if you want to dispose of an unbroken CFL, it takes special disposal in most jurisdictions due to the eco-unfriendly nature of CFLs.

Hahahaha, I just throw those sumbitches out just like regular bulbs. You know like most people do. Wha, that’s wrong?

Besides, this is all Bush’s fault anyway.

NickelAndDime on January 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM

That may well be true overall, but not if one breaks in your house. At that point, you need to conduct an hours-long cleanup — and even if you want to dispose of an unbroken CFL, it takes special disposal in most jurisdictions due to the eco-unfriendly nature of CFLs.

Hahahaha, I just throw them out like everyone else. Take that, environment.

Besides, this is all Bush’s fault.

NickelAndDime on January 4, 2013 at 4:17 PM

It’s not in the New York Times or the Washington Post. It only appeared on a local affiliate, not the evening network news.

It never happened. Move along, nothing to see here.

2ndMAW68 on January 4, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Dern, I didn’t know that about LED’s until now.

The Dark Side of LED Lightbulbs , Scientific American

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 2:11 PM

The same could be said for any electronics. The difference is that the “toxins” in electronics are integrated into the electronic part and not free to spill out. Where as the CFL has free mercury, mercury gas and phosphorous. As far as wearing gloves etc. Maybe because of the broken glass if any or for the heat paste, heat sink compound for those that know, but not because of the lead or arsenic. That story is silly and is typical of media scare mongering.

Dr. Frank Enstine on January 4, 2013 at 4:41 PM

My wife has Lupus. These CFL bulbs are very, very bad for her health. I will use candles before I use them. Blessedly, I stocked up on the old light-bulbs, but I am afraid that my six cases will only last me a couple of years. I am going to go out and look for some more next week.

Just like with Obamacare, the government keeps doing things that put my wife’s health and life at risk. This is the worst kind of tyranny.

Theophile on January 4, 2013 at 4:46 PM

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Solaratov on January 4, 2013 at 2:41 PM

But that price! $2 a bulb because the only way they are sold is as a specialty bulb for Rough Service. So you over-engineer it. Ends up almost the same price as the CFL at HomeDepot.com (~$2.50 in pack of 4).

But at least you should get quality light.

OBQuiet on January 4, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Greatest scam in history

Schadenfreude on January 4, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Instruction book for light bulbs? I would laugh, except that everyone in the office has been given new, ergonomically correct desk chairs. They come with an 8-page instruction manual on how to set the arms, rests, height, swivel, lean, tilt, etc. etc. They cover every position except ‘comfortable’. Half of us have bootlegged our old chairs back.

ss396 on January 4, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Didn’t returning Senator Kirk help this poisonous industry get started?

Mr. Arrogant on January 4, 2013 at 5:08 PM

These things are yet another in a long line of government’s idiotic ideas arbitrarily imposed on unwilling subjects. At our house we refer to these pieces of crap as “Al Gore’s Colon” bulbs.

sgtstogie on January 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Been stockpiling incandescents for years now. Wouldn’t have those mercury bulbs near my house.

Like anything the Gov tells me I should or have to do, I run as fast as possible in the opposite direction.

Margarine is another perfect example…

seesalrun2 on January 4, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Me neither. A couple weeks ago, my hubby asked me why I had so many cases of incandescent bulbs in one of our downstairs closets and that was my exact answer: I won’t have a CFL near our house. Not even in the outside fixtures.

PatriotGal2257 on January 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Man- my living room is really going to look cluttered with orange cones and caution tape around all the lighting fixtures.

Happy Nomad on January 4, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Yeah, that would throw the whole Feng Shui thing way out of whack. :P

PatriotGal2257 on January 4, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Candles.

albill on January 4, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Kerosine Lamps.
Oil Lamps.

albill on January 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM

All the benefit of lower electricity use and longer life is negated when you have to leave them on to realiably provide light.

weaselyone on January 4, 2013 at 2:52 PM

One of the problems with CFL’s is that turning them off and on shortens their life… sometimes down to a year or less. The trick is never turn them off. The few I still use, I leave on 24/7. One of them has been on non-stop for seven years. :)

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 6:09 PM

That just gave me a little chuckle.

DFCtomm on January 4, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Nessuno on January 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Hey, some people are allergic to copper and lead. Think of it this way: It could be worse. Those LED’s could have contained an extract of peanuts!

But we know they don’t. If they did, they’d be banned from school lunch rooms.

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 6:18 PM

SWalker on January 4, 2013 at 3:18 PM

I guess the bottom line is, “You pays your money and you takes your chances.”

But what I know for certain is I want the gubmint to stay the hell out of legitimate markets.

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 6:23 PM

This is all a bunch of crap. There is no defference between the CFLs and the 4 foot tubes that light the offices and businesses of America.

Spliff Menendez on January 4, 2013 at 6:28 PM

I should still be allowed to purchase an incandescent bulb if I want.

There is NOTHING wrong with them.

blink on January 4, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Yeah. Which is probably why Home Depot has half an aisle of various ones for sale. Which I’m pretty sure you’re allowed to buy.

Spliff Menendez on January 4, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Dr. Frank Enstine on January 4, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Makes sense to me.

Just goes to show ya how out of touch I am. I can remember when the Scientific American was a trustworthy magazine.

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 6:35 PM

They cover every position except ‘comfortable’.

ss396 on January 4, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Do they cover missionary style? Doggie style? If not, what good are they?

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 6:41 PM

I should still be allowed to purchase an incandescent bulb if I want.

There is NOTHING wrong with them.

blink on January 4, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Amen. Please see my post above about my wife’s health problems (Lupus and Epilepsy). Will I need a doctor’s note to purchase the old fashioned light bulb so that my wife will stay healthy? This is ridiculous.

Theophile on January 4, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Just goes to show ya how out of touch I am. I can remember when the Scientific American was a trustworthy magazine.

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 6:35 PM

I grew up with Scientific American. And it was one of (if not the)the best science-based magazines around.

Unfortunately, those days are long gone.

But, if you want the latest on global warming…and how it’s going to kill us all…………….

Solaratov on January 4, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Great news: Federally-permitted lightbulbs a cancer risk

Ed Morrisey

/Jedi mind trick: These are not the Federally-permitted lightbulbs you are looking for…

These are FEDERALLY Mandated Environmental hazards.

SWalker on January 4, 2013 at 1:13 PM

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You beat me to it, ‘Walker.

(You should have; I’ve been away from the computer all day)

listens2glenn on January 4, 2013 at 8:18 PM

So does this finding also pertain to the non-compact fluorescent lights that have been in use since, oh, the beginning of indoor lighting?

My my my……….

8-foot tubes: No problem

Curly tubes: RADHAZ

BobMbx on January 4, 2013 at 1:17 PM

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Bingo, Bob’. They’ve known that since before 2003.
I was an employee for an electrical construction outfit in late 2003 – ’04. My company won the bid to do the electrical construction in a WalMart “upgrade” to a Superstore.
We replaced ALL of the existing light fixtures in the shopping-floor area. The tubes were mostly 8 footers, and every old tube was to go into boxes made specifically for this purpose.
These boxes were acquired from the electrical supply house where the new lights were purchased.
Once a certain number of boxes were filled, we would call the supply house and they sent someone out to pick them up.
As I recall, these boxes would be stock-piled behind the warehouse of this electrical supply store, until they had a certain (much larger) number of boxes. Then they would call someone else who showed up with a semi-tractor trailor to pick those up, and take them to a specially designated hazmat disposal center.

That was nine years ago.

listens2glenn on January 4, 2013 at 8:45 PM

I grew up with Scientific American. And it was one of (if not the)the best science-based magazines around.

Solaratov on January 4, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Yup, me too.

As you said, unfortunately, those days are long gone.

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Three words: Class Action Lawsuit. I want G.E. ground into the dust.

BDavis on January 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM

BDavis on January 4, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I wish.

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I still think it would be hilarious if someone accidentally dropped a CFL on the Senate floor and broke it.

Oldnuke on January 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Good grief…more chicken little stuff.

Many of us grew up around mercury thermometers…that sometimes broke…and we played with the cool little mercury droplets…we sat for hours and hours in classrooms and offices lit by fluorescent lighting…and, gee, a whole bunch of stuff we consumed and did 40+ years ago considered by our Yuppified society to be ultra, super, duper dangerous.

I like CFLs for many things…they last a hell of a lot longer than incandescents. Obviously, I want the choice of which to buy.

Yeah, I get it…the Libs love CFLs therefore we must automatically hate them. Whatever.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM

We replaced ALL of the existing light fixtures in the shopping-floor area. The tubes were mostly 8 footers, and every old tube was to go into boxes made specifically for this purpose.
These boxes were acquired from the electrical supply house where the new lights were purchased.
Once a certain number of boxes were filled, we would call the supply house and they sent someone out to pick them up.
As I recall, these boxes would be stock-piled behind the warehouse of this electrical supply store, until they had a certain (much larger) number of boxes. Then they would call someone else who showed up with a semi-tractor trailor to pick those up, and take them to a specially designated hazmat disposal center.

That was nine years ago.

listens2glenn on January 4, 2013 at 8:45 PM

So we shouldn’t have held mock swordfights with them in the parking lot at the grocery store I worked 3 decades ago?

Whoops…

Damn that was fun though.

gekkobear on January 4, 2013 at 10:50 PM

I like CFLs for many things…they last a hell of a lot longer than incandescents. Obviously, I want the choice of which to buy.

Yeah, I get it…the Libs love CFLs therefore we must automatically hate them. Whatever.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 4, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I’ve got 4 CFL’s in my house… lights I leave on most of the time (or all of the time) get them.

But I’ve got one outlet that can’t take one. I’ve put 3 CFL’s in it so far and they burn out in hours (minutes in some cases). I’m in a rental so I can’t really rewire that plug to sort it out… and paying $5 a day for lighting in the stairwell isn’t really something I’ll do.

CFL’s are fine, for some places. If your electricity/wiring is iffy (say a cheap rental) they might not be a great plan.

But the liberals will require them. At least people living in cheap rentals with iffy wiring are probably rich and can afford massive lightbulb bill increases… right?

The mandate is stupid, the CFL’s aren’t great for everyone everywhere… but no I’m not panicking over the concept of their usage either.

gekkobear on January 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

I have a huge stash of the old incandescent bulbs too but I’m going to find room for a few more as well. My husband just spent $24 on one of those new LED lights because he got convinced it will use so much less electricity. I hate the thing because the light is so ghostly artificially white but I don’t know if I have the heart to tell him. He bought it specially for me to have in a lamp near my desk and reading chair. I appreciate the thought but it’s too expensive and I don’t like the light.

I really think now that this whole idea was to increase the cost of all light bulbs for everybody. The last time I looked at the grocery store they didn’t have anything under $6 except a few of the old incandescent bulbs at $1.24 for a pack of 4. And all the CFLs contain dangerous mercury.

sherrimae on January 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM

But I’ve got one outlet that can’t take one. I’ve put 3 CFL’s in it so far and they burn out in hours (minutes in some cases). I’m in a rental so I can’t really rewire that plug to sort it out…

gekkobear
on January 4, 2013 at 10:54 PM

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When you say “receptacle”, do you really mean “light fixture”?

Can you measure the voltage at that location?

listens2glenn on January 5, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Why is it that the “Pro-Choice” Party is only Pro-Choice when it comes to killing one’s child and not to anything else.

Want to live without health care insurance? You have No Choice.
Want to buy traditional light bulbs? You have No Choice.
Want to buy gasoline without Ethanol? You have No Choice.
Want to buy a large Big Gulp in New York City? You have No Choice.
Want to live your life relatively free from government interference? No Choice Whatsoever.

How again are they the “Pro-Choice” Party?

Theophile on January 5, 2013 at 1:32 AM

I wonder what kind of bulbs they use in the WH….

Sherman1864 on January 5, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Just yesterday, before reading this article, ate lunch at my regular– McD’s. walking to the exit, saw a white box on an empty table. Picking it up, read it had previously contained a cfl. Looked up and directly over the table was a recessed pair of these little f-ers. Scanning the dining area, over the tables and walkways, there had to be 30-35 of these recessed cancer producers… Prolly going round the clock!

Makes me think, the govt requires these and Obamacare… Didn’t MacDonalds get a waiver on the Obamacare? So businesses produce cancer patients from their patrons and are waived from providing healthcare for all?

Yeah, yet another USGubmint circle jerk …

socalcon on January 5, 2013 at 10:23 AM

sherrimae on January 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM

…specially for me to have in a lamp near my desk and reading chair.

I might question hubby’s motives……

socalcon on January 5, 2013 at 10:28 AM

LED bulbs are catching up fast in quality of light and price. … Incandescent bulbs are a thing of the past. It’s time to let go and find something important to get worked up about.

OxyCon on January 4, 2013 at 2:23 PM

I should still be allowed to purchase an incandescent bulb if I want.

There is NOTHING wrong with them.

blink on January 4, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Gotta agree w/blink. You can still legally buy buggy whips, if you can find them. Libs need to allow the market to work unhindered.

socalcon on January 5, 2013 at 10:37 AM

I am going to candles and oil light from now on…

Scrumpy on January 4, 2013 at 1:59 PM

As long as its oil from a renewable source, like whales.

BobMbx on January 4, 2013 at 2:02 PM

lol

justltl on January 5, 2013 at 11:13 AM

This explains a phenomena I’ve noticed over the past three months. Our master bath has two sinks/vanities back to back, each with a vanity-top length mirror and a four bulb light bar above it.

As an experiment I replaced half the bulbs with equivalent CFLs (The bulbs are the round 60w sorts) as an experiment.

Since then I’ve noticed discomfort in my eyes when brushing my teeth or combing my hair.. basically anytime I’m looking in the mirror. I first noticed the difference as not being able to see as well, even though my light meter indicates there is actually more light in the bathroom once the CFLs are warmed up.

I do believe the UV emitted by the CFLs, compounded by the mirrors as I can see the light bar above my wife’s vanity and she mine, is having a significant effect on my eyes. I will ask my wife if she notices anything this evening.

I just came back from checking out my hypothesis and it seems that looking into my mirror feels kind of like looking into the sun with that over-bright sensation and diminished visual acuity.

Not good. Not at all.

DrDeano on January 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Sylvania has halogen incandescent bulbs in soft white.

moonsbreath on January 5, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Once again an idea is forced upon us with little thought of implications.
CFL’s look good but…
-Studies are based on bulb life that is wildly optimistic (I guess they weren’t taking into account Chinese manufacturing with its inherent quality issues and corner cutting.)
-Toxic and fragile.
-Warm up time at temperatures below 70.
-Disposal issues.
LEDs
-Unpleasant wrong spectrum light.
-Insane cost (until the Chinese internal knock off production kicks in, then see above for quality issues and longevity and ooh the environment but that is in China so it doesn’t count)
Halogen (my particular preference)
-Mildly more efficient but at 5 times cost.

Same thing is happening with wind power industry, the “we must change now to or we will never be ready” crowd pushes a technology that is (politically correct and connected) massively dependent on China’s rare earth minerals and U.S. tax subsidies for a net 0 environmental benefit and much higher cost.

notalemon on January 5, 2013 at 11:45 AM

sherrimae on January 4, 2013 at 11:49 PM

I hate the ghostly blue white light too. Ask hubby, if he wants to give you an LED bulb, to be sure its whiteness color is rated at 2700K. Bulbs rated at 3000K are called “warm” white, but I prefer the warmer 2700K, as it’s more like the incandescent I’m accustomed to. Bulbs rated above 3000K I avoid, except for outdoor security lights.

One of my favorites is the Phillips 12.5 watt LED.

petefrt on January 5, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I still think it would be hilarious if someone accidentally dropped a CFL on the Senate floor and broke it.

Oldnuke on January 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM

It’s a must-do, preferably just before a vote to cancel the incandescent bulb ban.

petefrt on January 5, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Every single one of us should be having “accidents” in the stores with these bulbs.

In the cart, drop a box of kitty litter on it, oooops.

Have to clear the building.

An easy weapon, yet we do nothing.

stenwin77 on January 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

And, by the way, if we applied the same level of scrutiny to incandescent light bulbs, you’d probably have a heart attack at the toxic chemicals let loose when you break one of those things.

Nessuno on January 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Like what? Inert gas? Tungsten? There aren’t any chemicals, because that’s all an incandescent bulb is: glass, inert gas, a high-resistance metal wire. There are plenty of chemicals used in their manufacture, but that’s true of most manufacturing.

The point of all the toxic chemicals being in LEDs is that when they get disposed of, people will pitch them in the regular garbage in job lots. Just like they do now with way too many things. Then you have a problem.

The other problem with LEDs is the same one many folks here mention about CFLs – they produce negligible heat. Stoplights are having to have little heaters installed now because where the incandescents use to keep snow and ice from covering the light, the LEDs don’t.

GWB on January 5, 2013 at 4:05 PM

…and the plumped-bottomed, Obama friend/crony/acolyte Lisa Jackson is leaving the EPA. Coincidence? I think not.

LizardLips on January 5, 2013 at 5:43 PM

I still think it would be hilarious if someone accidentally dropped a CFL on the Senate floor and broke it.

Oldnuke on January 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Guantanamo is designed for people that think like that.

BobMbx on January 5, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Time to hold who ever came up with this idea in the first place accountable…

Seven Percent Solution on January 4, 2013 at 4:00 PM

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Agreed, but what can we do to Maurice Strong?

He’s not an elected official in civil authority.

I’m not sure he’s even a citizen of the U.S.

listens2glenn on January 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM

stenwin77 on January 5, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Yes, of course. Excellent idea. And as luck would have it, I just happen to be going shopping tomorrow.

Breitbart lives.

petefrt on January 5, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Hey, some people are allergic to copper and lead.

A condition that should become universal for tyrannical bureaucrats.

Agreed, but what can we do to Maurice Strong?

He’s not an elected official in civil authority.

I’m not sure he’s even a citizen of the U.S.

listens2glenn on January 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM

See above.

SDN on January 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Hey, some people are allergic to copper and lead.

petefrt on January 4, 2013 at 6:18 PM

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A condition that should become universal for tyrannical bureaucrats.
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Agreed, but what can we do to Maurice Strong?

He’s not an elected official in civil authority.

I’m not sure he’s even a citizen of the U.S.

listens2glenn on January 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM

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See above.

SDN on January 5, 2013 at 11:54 PM

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Strong, Gorbachev, and Soros should all meet that fate.

But all three are as difficult to get to as any World leader, including ours.

listens2glenn on January 6, 2013 at 1:10 AM

Gee, they (the EPA) do not seem to mention the amounts of toxins used to manufacture these bulbs, that’s why they are being manufactured in CHINA.
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WARNING: NEVER USE A CFL MANUFACTURED IN CHINA!! It could very well be the death of you.
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Just try to find an MSDS on these bulbs. It’s harder than it should be.

askwhatif on January 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM

I still think it would be hilarious if someone accidentally dropped a CFL on the Senate floor and broke it.

Oldnuke on January 4, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Seems like that would be the only way they would ban the CFLs.
I vote yay.

askwhatif on January 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Anyone want to lay odds that the white house, capitol and most of the government buildings don’t have these things in them?

Fine for the common rabble but not for them.

acyl72 on January 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM

We put one in the hallway, thank God we were home when it started to spark and shot out a flame like it was about to blast off! They are not user friendly!

christene on January 6, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Eh… at my daughter’s house tonight a New & Improved Bulb went out and while trying to figure out how to dispose of it we looked for and found the following statement on the base of the bulb ‘dispose of according to local regulations’

When do there start including the ‘safe distance’ warning?

As a nanny…. Gov. SUCKS!

RalphyBoy on January 6, 2013 at 10:05 PM

I like this 2 minute music video from Minnesotans for Global Warming that at one point mocks Al Gore and his idiotic CFL lightbulb idea. Entertaining: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtWIzMY7Dqs&info=HottestYearSince1863_NOT

anotherJoe on January 7, 2013 at 12:43 AM

…meanwhile I am trying to find a replacement system for the 75 watt bulb I kept near oil tank filter that I turned on when it was below 0F out to prevent gelling.
meanwhile the loss of heat from me stupidly swapping to cfl 2-3 yrs ago makes my furnace run more in winter.

Where the 75 watt bulb was doing a good job for you, you need to get a double light fixture and put it in your single light fixture, and you can put 25 watt in one, and 50 watt in the other…

Or just put 50 watts in each.

I have cfl in my basement, they look dumb but no one lives there, except mice who don’t live long there, and I put them there because it is silly to pay to light the basement all night…or for days…if someone leaves it on and no one goes there. They also last a really long time, so I don’t think they will go out while I live here. The light they shed is putrid, though, like morning sickness.

I am looking for some new matching lamps, now that 50 watts are all you can get, I am going to get lots of twin lamps,(matching sets)like those pairs you get for the bedroom.

What a stoopid idea, telling people they can’t have a nice light bulb in their house. Now must be the time to stock up on 50 watts…are they going out of style too?

Fleuries on January 7, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Legislate in haste … repent at leisure.

Ed Morrisey

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That sounds very much like:

“It’s easier to secure forgiveness, than permission.”

listens2glenn on January 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM

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