Pelosi to GOP: You really ought to take back your party, you know

posted at 5:11 pm on January 3, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

As expected, Nancy Pelosi retains her position as House Minority Leader after going unchallenged for the spot earlier today and garnering an even wider margin of support than at the convening of the 112th:

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) entered the 113th Congress on Thursday with a greater show of support from her Democratic troops than she had just two years ago.

In Thursday’s much-watched vote for House Speaker, all but seven Democrats voiced their support for Pelosi — a vast improvement over 2011 when 20 rank-and-file members declined to back the California liberal after the party was pummeled at the polls just a few months earlier. …

Part of the heightened unity behind Pelosi is a simple function of a new roster. Of the 20 Democrats who opposed her two years ago, only 11 returned to the 113th Congress.

And two of those seven were simply out of town, so it sounds like House Democrats are pretty okay with the way their faction’s rolled over the past two years — or are at least lacking in better options. Which, joyously, means we get to hear even more about how Republicans simply loathe things like clean air and clean water on principle, or something, because there’s no possible way anything but bigger government could bring these things about. Maybe we should just go club some baby seals while we’re at it:

There are many members in the Republican caucus who do not believe in government. And bless their hearts, they act upon their beliefs. So day to day, we vote here on issues that eliminate government initiatives for clean air, clean water, food safety, public safety, public education, public transportation, public housing, public health, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security. “They don’t believe in a public role. And if you don’t believe in a public role, then why do you even have to have taxes to pay for it? … They’re anti-government ideologues, and that’s what the speaker has to deal with.

Anyhow, I’m wondering if and how long that Democratic show of unity will last, because the upcoming fights over the debt ceiling and government shutdown are going to prompt more debate over entitlement reforms that Pelosi advocated be taken off the table this last time around. As self-congratulatory as they might be about Republicans’ intra-party strife, they’re going to have to figure out how they want to play these next few rounds on that front:

The biggest reform Republicans have vowed to push for in these upcoming standoffs is so-called “entitlement reform,” a.k.a. “deficit reduction,” a.k.a., cutting social insurance and benefits for those in need.

The problem for Democrats: No one in the party agrees on how to address the issue.

The White House has repeatedly expressed a willingness – even an interest – in reducing the deficit through cuts to these programs. …

But coming on the heels of a campaign that explicitly litigated the twin issues of tax fairness and protecting benefits for those in need, Obama finds himself with a growing, emboldened liberal wing of his party. And it’s as dead set against balancing the deficit on the backs of the neediest Americans, as House conservatives are to raising taxes.


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GOP is dead.

Republican Conservatism is dead.

You can’t take back something that no longer exists.

DuH

SD Tom on January 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

The White House has repeatedly expressed a willingness – even an interest – in reducing the deficit through cuts to these programs. …

It has?

sharrukin on January 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

You’ll have to pardon Nancy-poo. Botox has consequences.

GarandFan on January 3, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Yes, the grassroots rank & file DOES need to take back the GOP from the elitist DC snobs like Boehner.

michaelo on January 3, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Sassy women are so hot.

Whoops, I thought this was the DWS thread.

Chuck Schick on January 3, 2013 at 5:18 PM

I hate Nancy Pelosi with a passion of 16.4 trillion suns!

BigGator5 on January 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM

There are many members in the Republican caucus who do not believe in government. And bless their hearts, they act upon their beliefs. So day to day, we vote here on issues that eliminate government initiatives for clean air, clean water, food safety, public safety, public education, public transportation, public housing, public health, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security. “They don’t believe in a public role. And if you don’t believe in a public role, then why do you even have to have taxes to pay for it? … They’re anti-government ideologues, and that’s what the speaker has to deal with.

Yeah, you rubes. What’s the matter with you? Government is good. Government will take care of you.

You have to admire Pelosi, though. She knows exactly what plays, what message to get out to diminish the opposition and that the lapdog media will dutifully report it verbatim without rebuttal.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Back from the RINOs and Democrats? Yes.

BTW, Democrats need to take their party back from the marxists and fascists.

rbj on January 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM

She has a pair.

No one on the R side does.

Bachmann sold hers today, for good.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Haha! Speaker Boehner looks about to start blubbering.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on January 3, 2013 at 5:21 PM

This Conservative is no longer a Repubecan.

As far as I’m concerned the Establishment Repubes can have the party and enjoy living in pathetic powerless minorities as far as the eye can see.

Burn this F’er down.

Meople on January 3, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Pee-lousy needs to take back her sanity. Assuming she ever had any.

platypus on January 3, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Go F__K yourself. Vayr ge hargit.

Rixon on January 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM

From the Toomey thread

Strongly agree with Toomey. There’s a year and a half before the next election. Tax increases should be already off the table unless the Democrats want to go into a midterm election having raised taxes on everyone. Or, give them an opening bid in line with the fiscal cliff bill: $41 in cuts for every $1 of revenue.
Mohonri on January 3, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Still letting the Democrats define you. For God’s sake, learn to

Fallon on January 3, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Nancy Pelosi called the Teaparty a bunch of Nazis.

Do we have to pay attention to her?

Deafdog on January 3, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Pelosi to GOP: You really ought to take back your party, you know

Me to Maerose Prizzi: What is the most endangered species on the planet?

Blue Dog Democrats.

GFY, hypocrite.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 5:26 PM

…get your message out. That was weird.

Fallon on January 3, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Bless her little heart, I think I here them calling her back to the commune (San Francisco).

DDay on January 3, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Clean air and water – for those who dodge abortion, that is.

OldEnglish on January 3, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Sassy women are so hot.

Whoops, I thought this was the DWS thread.

Chuck Schick on January 3, 2013 at 5:18 PM

This is the Maerose Prizzi thread.

“ObamaCare’s not a tax, it’s a ta-ta-penalty!! It’s a ta—; it’s a penalty for free riders. Well, who is the ta — who is the penalty on?”

Trout-pout does make it difficult to pronounce words…

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Maybe the Tea Party needs to take over a few inner city precincts.

DanMan on January 3, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Nancy Pelosi called the Teaparty a bunch of Nazis.

Do we have to pay attention to her?

Deafdog on January 3, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Actually, we tea partiers really are a bunch of nazis – freedom nazis. We want to use the force of government to keep you free and strong.

platypus on January 3, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Sassy women are so hot.

Whoops, I thought this was the DWS thread.

Chuck Schick on January 3, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Sir, contact your urologist at once. I think you may have stripped a couple of gears.

turfmann on January 3, 2013 at 5:31 PM

In a sane world Pelosi would have been tried for treason, and the appropriate sentence carried out.

darwin on January 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

And it’s as dead set against balancing the deficit on the backs of the neediest Americans, as House conservatives are to raising taxes.

You know, except for the part that they vote *for* raising taxes even while saying they’re against them.

See the difference is that the libs fight against that which they are ‘dead set against’, while the House GOP (I will not call them “conservatives”) collapse and vote in favor of that which they claim to be ‘dead set against’.

Guess which side continues to win in that scenario?

Midas on January 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

The Republican Party needs a ‘DNR’ order.

Even if the Republican ‘party’ could be ‘revived’ — IT IS CLEARLY NOT WORTH THE MONUMENTAL EFFORT IT WOULD REQUIRE.

It’s dead. It has been for a long time. Or — didn’t Mitt Romney as the ultimate Republican POTUS candidate against America loathing scatological incumbent Barack Hussein Obama not open our eyes even a tiny little bit?

Just let it go, people, and learn how to budget deeply and get used to being under the grinding boot heel of American malingerers liberals.

SD Tom on January 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

There are many members in the Republican caucus who do not believe in government…They’re anti-government ideologues, and that’s what the speaker has to deal with.

Is this going to be Pelosi’s new meme? Conflating being in favor of limited government with being opposed to government entirely?

Pelosi’s idea of government is a metastasizing cancer.

novaculus on January 3, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Compare the democrat party of the fifties and sixties to today. That party is dead, taken over by rabid communists and corrupt crooks.

darwin on January 3, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Tuna.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 5:34 PM

The GOP can keep it. We’re looking elsewhere…

elfman on January 3, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Tuna.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Rotten fish…what I smell when Pelosi speaks.

What a land she has become!

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Compare the democrat party of today to the 1900′s-1910′s. The dead are alive, promoting rabid communists and corrupt crooks.

It’s a joke to hear the dems say the repubs want to return to the 50′s when they keep returning to Woodrow Wilson and FDR for guidance.

DanMan on January 3, 2013 at 5:41 PM

SD Tom on January 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Nice pep speech Coach, but I will never give into Liberals or their way of conducting (expanding) government. I hope your feeling better by 2014.

DDay on January 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM

The Republicans aren’t small government Nancy. They have as much government in their veins as you do botox in yours’

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Boehner might as well listen to Nancy….they can have a good cry afterwards!

tomshup on January 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Remember when the Republicans were in charge of both the House and the Senate when President G.W. Bush was in office, and Nancy Pelosi was in the minority, but held a press conference every day to tell us how bad the Republicans are…

… Then the Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006 and every day Nancy Pelosi held a press conference telling us all how bad the Republicans are.

Then Obowma and the Democrats won the whole show in 2008, and again, every day, Nancy Pelosi held daily press conferences telling us all how bad Republicans were…

… Then they lost the House in 2010, but guess what happened every day. You guessed it, Nancy Pelosi graced us with her sour puss telling us all how bad Republicans are.

Skip forward to today, she is still in the Minority, but guess who is in front of the cameras again acting like she owns the place, lying out of that whole in her face…

… You would think that it is well past time that someone with a more Conservative message, especially one that included the amount of debt that this Nation is really in, would follow her example and start talking about the out of control spending on a daily basis.

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Incredible. Believing in limited government, in individual liberty; believing that government should live within its means; believing in fiscal sanity – ALL OF THAT makes one an anti-government ideologue in the U.S. today.

TarheelBen on January 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

And two of those seven were simply out of town, so it sounds like House Democrats are pretty okay with the way their faction’s rolled over the past two years — or are at least lacking in better options.
-EJ

As opposed to Boehner rolling over for Obama?

weaselyone on January 3, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Has anyone ever done a study showing the overlap of second amendment supporters, people who -in a net sum- actually pay taxes, and those with a smaller-government, Federalist bent? And throw in fans of two-parent households who have tired of subsidizing the “alternative”.

And can someone please tell me why that group (how small can it be?) doesn’t have more political clout in this country? I sometimes think the only thing that prevents real revolt in this country is the laws that dictate tax with-holding.

Maybe that’s the platform the next so-called conservative should run on- no more tax with-holding. The Pelosis of the beltway kingdom might be stunned into silence.

M240H on January 3, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Pelosi dares speak of a constitution, the witch.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Tuna. speaking of Pelosi, I see where StarKist got a huge tax break for their operation in American Samoa. I believe that is one of Paul Pelosi’s assets isn’t it? You remember, the one Nanzi exempted from the dems minimum wage increase in 2009.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323320404578216583921471560.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

DanMan on January 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM

they don’t want the taxes to pay for it Nancy? Why is the average American family paying 2000 more dollars this year?

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM

The California voters be damned; Nancy Pelosi is UNWORTHY of any position of authority, in Civil Governance.

Also Diane Feinstein, and Barbara “I worked hard for that title” Boxer.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM

God damn the liars.

Pelosi lied.

Boehner lies.

Both said “we are truly your representatives”.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

d@mn it! I hate Nancy. How does an illiterate fool who can barely form a cogent sentence – who makes millions insider trading – keep getting elected?!

Oh Yeah. San Fran.

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Incredible. Believing in limited government, in individual liberty; believing that government should live within its means; believing in fiscal sanity – ALL OF THAT makes one an anti-government ideologue in the U.S. U.S.S.A. today.

TarheelBen on January 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

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Big Government FIFY

FlaMurph on January 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

How she became famous will be written. That book is highly slutty.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Also Diane Feinstein, and Barbara “I worked hard for that title” Boxer.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM

don’t call me Miss Sir

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM

How she became famous will be written. That book is highly slutty.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I don’t know her history. She makes my d!ck run inside my belly button and hide

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM

From the Whigs they were born, and now, like the Whigs, they shall fade into irrelevance and oblivion.

And deservedly so.

Bruno Strozek on January 3, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Nancy Pelosi called the Teaparty a bunch of Nazis.

Do we have to pay attention to her?

Deafdog on January 3, 2013 at 5:26 PM

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We have to pay attention to ALL of them, compliments of too many “low-info” American voters.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Anyhow, I’m wondering if and how long that Democratic show of unity will last,

The Dems have conviction and fight for thier beliefs which you can’t say that about the GOP.

because the upcoming fights over the debt ceiling and government shutdown are going to prompt more debate over entitlement reforms that Pelosi advocated be taken off the table this last time around.

Who’s going to shut down the government? Crybaby Boehner won’t that’s for sure.

RedRobin145 on January 3, 2013 at 5:59 PM

She’s whacked.

CW on January 3, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Nice pep speech Coach, but I will never give into Liberals or their way of conducting (expanding) government. I hope your feeling better by 2014.

DDay on January 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM

2014 Hope & Change for Republicans? Are you serious?

Please. That is beyond laughable.
You will give in.
You will.
And you know it.

You have NO OTHER VIABLE OPTION.
Just like everyone else.

Your stoic bravado is merely window dressing. Inside — you’re scared shi*less. Or — you’re actually that vapid.

Here’s to hoping it is the former and not the latter.
Cheers!

SD Tom on January 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM

There are many members in the Republican caucus who do not believe in government…They’re anti-government ideologues, and that’s what the speaker has to deal with.

Is this going to be Pelosi’s new meme? Conflating being in favor of limited government with being opposed to government entirely?

Pelosi’s idea of government is a metastasizing cancer.

novaculus on January 3, 2013 at 5:34 PM

This has been the poll-tested, Lackoff-inspired meme for a while with the “Progs.” It’s right up there with describing any idea from the right as “extreme.”

Note that many of the examples that Pelosi lists as a responsibility of the government more rightly belong to the states, not the feds. Nancy is all about the power and control of the central command.

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Deafdog: “Nancy Pelosi called the Teaparty a bunch of Nazis.”

Umm, the GOP agrees with that as well.

Look at all Barry, Nancy & Harry have achieved in only 4 years. I like it not, but they’ve strengthened the progressive/marxist party, helped destroy the republican party, trashed the economy, secured their democratic base for the next 50 years, used the constitution as toilet paper, actively disarming Americans & all that’s left if we don’t get destroyed by Russia, China or other radicals is to completely destroy the middle class. Oligarch rule…awful.

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Exactly! Being vacuous, fact-challenged, and outrageous has never kept Nancy Pelosi from spouting off before a camera.

We need a battalion of articulate, assertive conseratives to match her appearances and express a positive, fact-filled message daily. Be the squeaky wheels of common sense and fiscal responsibility, Republicans/conservatives. There are plenty of you out there. Speak up!

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Tuna. speaking of Pelosi, I see where StarKist got a huge tax break for their operation in American Samoa. I believe that is one of Paul Pelosi’s assets isn’t it? You remember, the one Nanzi exempted from the dems minimum wage increase in 2009.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323320404578216583921471560.html?mod=rss_opinion_main

DanMan on January 3, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Thanks for bringing that point to our attention. I thought that there was a connection but didn’t trust my memory.

onlineanalyst on January 3, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Hey, check out how they’re milking the taxpayers for our Royal Family’s vacation. Yep, raise that 2% payroll deduction so there’s more money from the S.S. kitty to raid.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2013/01/02/inside-obamas-kailua-beach-vacation-homes

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 6:25 PM

The White House has repeatedly expressed a willingness – even an interest – in reducing the deficit through cuts to these programs.

Honestly, this is so surreal. The ability of the Democrats to get away with the lies they shamelessly tell is mind boggling.

DaveDief on January 3, 2013 at 6:32 PM

She’s whacked.

CW on January 3, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Boehner should put that gavel to work with a good shot right on that nasty old bat’s forehead.

BigWyo on January 3, 2013 at 6:36 PM

It is the Dem party that has been overtaken by Nanzi and her socialist Comrades…what will they do when they run out of other peoples’ money? History is not on their side.

d1carter on January 3, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Any wall proximal to Pelozi is sufficient.

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

That’s how ridiculous Nancy Pelosi is. If you’re not a nasty socialist like her, you’re an anarchist. Some days I just can’t believe the disaster which has befallen this country, the stupidity and waste of it all.

Murf76 on January 3, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Is this going to be Pelosi’s new meme? Conflating being in favor of limited government with being opposed to government entirely?

Pelosi’s idea of government is a metastasizing cancer.

novaculus on January 3, 2013 at 5:34 PM

When you have the press on your side, you can count on your message being widely promoted favorably. Have been watching a number of history documentaries. Only difference between us and thirties Germany is that the press isn’t owned by the government but acts like it is.

AZfederalist on January 3, 2013 at 6:53 PM

SD Tom on January 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Out of respect a response is in order. I really don’t think of my position as bravado, I just happen to have a strong ideology that I refuse to surrender. As it stands now, I live in an area that is at a minimum 70 percent Democratic. However, I also live in a state that is overwhelmingly conservative. These leftist radicals that have overtaken the Democratic Party are starting to wear their welcome out and I know this how? I live among them.

DDay on January 3, 2013 at 7:19 PM

That Crone Pelosi can go to Hell. May the Pelosi Family Trust business jet crash and burn with her on it.

rayra on January 3, 2013 at 7:32 PM

S.P. Link on January 3, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Just for the record…I’m with you.

Cleombrotus on January 3, 2013 at 7:53 PM

The White House has repeatedly expressed a willingness – even an interest – in reducing the deficit through cuts to these programs. …

It has?

sharrukin on January 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

AKA, “You Lie!!”

tom on January 3, 2013 at 7:56 PM

S.P. Link on January 3, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I posted a similar question on a different forum just a couple days ago. My question was in regard to the huge spike in gun sales and how it really means nothing.

Look around you, the people you work with, the people you pass in the market, the people you see in a restaurant, your neighbors…do you honestly think that these people would be willing to fight, to die to keep their freedom?

Do you think that enough of these people you see would stand up in enough numbers, and be willing to die if necessary, to fight tyranny and totalitarian aggression by the government?

For example, WHEN they come to confiscate all the firearms, or after they’ve done that, WHEN they declare the Constitution and the rest of the Bill of Rights no longer applicable because after all, they were written SO long ago and by nothing but racist white bigots, and they’re just going to do away with those in favor of something more “modern”. Do you think enough average, non-military people would stand up and risk their very lives to defend them?

Neither do I.

Meople on January 3, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Also Diane Feinstein, and Barbara “I worked hard for that title” Boxer.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM

…there are no women in California…just cesspools!

KOOLAID2 on January 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM

And may the devil take your soul(s).

That you would relish burdening our children with a monumental debt (economic slavery) makes you deserving of nothing less than being thrown overboard into the Marianas trench with a millstone shackled to your necks.

This bipartisan curse goes out to every pathetic politician that willfully and knowingly perpetuated high crimes, misdemeanors and fraud upon us. Rot in Hades.

AH_C on January 4, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Pelosi lecturing on how to be a better dictator. Gotta hand it to her — she knows of what she speaks.

Crefonso on January 4, 2013 at 11:53 PM