The fundamental problem is the media. And until we figure a way of dealing with them, the course of events is nearly entirely in their well-organized and leftist hands.

justltl on January 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM

+101001111

You are correct.

We can defeat 0bama… only to find the new media despot arise in his aftermath.

The media must be held to the spirit of the 1st Amendment, by coaxing, by legal injunction, or by force.

The cancer is identified.

The virus of the MSM has infected the country, and is must be cauterized and cured.

Otherwise,

America is over.

O-Pa Gangnam Styre!!!!!!!!11!!11!

Imagine if, in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, the Media focused on the real problems of a general degradation of morals and society, and the undervaluation of life, rather than focusing on stripping law abiding gun owners of their rights. What a different debate we would be having, eh? What a different outcome we would have.

So on a personal note, color me disgusted over our failure to even recognize and acknowledge the enemy within, let alone deal with them for what they are.

-The media is the problem.

-How the hell did Obama get elected in 2008 and then re-elected in 2012? If the media had done even a fraction of its job in laying out factual information about him and his record- never mind were they an actual cheerleader and propagandist for his opponent- he wouldn’t have been able to win an election for dog catcher. Hell, if the media acted toward Obama like they would have against any conservative or even liberal-leaning Republican, he would probably be jailed by now.

Think about what the media has let slide on Obama: Fast and Furious and Benghazi come to mind by virtue of their recent occurrence, but there are hundreds of other examples, as displayed in the OOTD threads. Now think about that for which the media has relentlessly excoriated conservatives and Republicans.

The same applies with issues. The media not only controls the debate but even the items that are debated. Gay marriage comes to mind as well as gun control, again because of their being recent issues. Imagine if the media laid out the actual facts about taxes, spending, the economy, etc., instead of propagandizing for one skewed viewpoint.

So we can beat our heads against the wall and engage in endless self-recrimination over the candidates that we run for office or how advocates such as the NRA present their case. And we can bemoan the “low information voters”. But they are not the fundamental problem.

The fundamental problem is the media. And until we figure a way of dealing with them, the course of events is nearly entirely in their well-organized and leftist hands.

“Dude, It ISN’T about YOU!”

It wasn’t about HIM, & it wasn’t about the Republican Party! After 4 years of Democratic Party ‘rule’, shoving everything down the opposing majority of American peoples’ throats, it was an opportunity to RESTORE SANITY / ETHICS / MORALITY / PROPER GOVT PROCEDURES to the House! Boehner completely missed that his nomination was not supposed to be a victory for HIM but for AMERICA! Instead of restoring all of that he attempted to play THEIR Game by THEIR Rules…behind THEIR closed doors.

Boehner learned NOTHING from that last Debt Ceiling Battle, during which closed-door negotiations he – & the nation – got our @$$e$ KICKED. He arrogantly attempted to take another shot at it, again behind closed doors with Obama, and once again came out holding his sore man parts and his tail between his legs! Hopefully his ego is firmly in check now & he fully understands ‘this’ isn’t about HIM!

Key phrase in Boehners’ sell out your principles world.

It’s going to be a llllllllllong and frustrating 2 and 4 years for True limited government CONSERVATIVES.

Posers will be content, and call us “unreasonable” and “hysterical” and “not a team player”.

SO BE IT.

The Senate passed that PORK-FILLED Monstrosity of a faux Sandy Relief bill…and the GOP then allowed them to lad the 1st political theatrical punch by using the media to attack them over refusing to vote on the bill.

WHAT BOEHNER SHOULD HAVE DONE, upon scanning the bill & finding the pork, was IMMEDIATELY just walk off the House Floor, right out of the House, & onto the House Steps to address the media…

BEFORE EVER ANNOUNCING TO THE HOUSE FLOOR THERE WOULD BE NO IMMEDIATE VOTE, Boehner should have made that announcement to / THROUGH the media:

“I just received the Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill, & I am APALLED by this parasitic bill that attempts to leech off of the misfortunes of those who have experienced such loss and tragedy! As Rahm Emmanuel once said, ‘Never let a crisis go to wast’, & that is what the Democrats in the Senate are attempting to do with this bill. They have packed this bill so full of PORK spending, for their own personal and party benefit, that the cost of that pork in this bill is a higher amount than what will be going to the victims of Hurricane Sandy! To try to use achieve personal gain at a time when these victims are still suffering is both unethical and immoral. What the Democrats have done by packing this bill with PORK is to delay much needed relief, as I can NOT, in good conscience, allow this bill in its current state to go forward. THERE WILL BE NO VOTE ON THIS DISGRACEFUL BILL…AND I PROMISE THE VICITMS OF HURRICANE SANDY THAT THE HOUSE WILL WORK AS QUICKLY AS IT CAN STRIP THE GREEDY ADDITIONS FROM THIS BILL AND PASS THE RELIEF YOU DESPERATELY DESERVE!”

Then I would have walked back into the House, told the GOP in the House to tell their Interns to order pizza, because they were going to be there as long as it took to srrip all that pork out of the bill before passing it!

The newly-elected House Members, God bless them, rebelled & challenged the good-ol’-boy/establishment-create procedures adopted over time – shocking Boehner – & caused him to lose his ‘Plan B’. Many stuck to their guns & refused to vote for the final bill, that they were handed 15 MINUTES before a vote was to be called. One new member stated that the new members have banded together to restore the PROPER procedures in the House — NO MORE BEHIND-CLOSED-DOOR NEGOTIATIONS & ANY BILL THAT IS NOT DELIVERED AT LEAST 3 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF ANY VOTE (As PROMISED by Obama, so everyone can read it/them) WILL GET A ‘NO/NAY’ VOTE FROM NOW ON! Good for them!

In the end Boehner STILL delivered a bitter pill for the GOP to swallow – a bill intended to reduce spending, pay down the deficit, & increase taxes on ‘the rich’ so the rest of us wouldn’t have to pay higher taxes. Instead, Boehner agreed to a bill that INCREASED deficit spending, ADDED $3.8 TRILLION in New Debt, got $15 Billion in spending cuts…OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, & raised taxes on 77% os ALL Americans. Boehner FAILED to negotiate anything REMOTELY to what even Obama promised – he negotiated & accepted something FAR WORSE!

If there is a bright spot to all of this, to Boehner’s behind-closed-door negotiations, it is that the kick to Boehner’s private parts Obama gave him & the scolding the rebellious new Republicans gave him when he limped back into the House has resulted in Boehner vowing to END the behind-closed-door negotiations!

Seriously, who’s pulling the strings attached to these puppets? They’re obviously getting their plays called in from the sidelines.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 4, 2013 at 5:57 AM

Especially if we pair their words to their actions.
Only we’re the one’s being Tebowed (not the kneel, the benching).
Third party here I come!

No matter what you say, forever more, you will have always been one of the people that enabled the path to totalitarian governance. Nothing will ever excuse or change that.

Malachi45 on January 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM

The GOP has long been enabling in its implementation. Why do they get a pass?

The GOP will betray you

True_King on January 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

They don’t get a pass. Or haven’t you read the Republican bashing from the bulk of the commentariat here these past years? But if you think voting for Republicans is comparable to voting for full blown fascists like Obama, as flawed as Republicans are, then you and I have no common ground we can both call reality.

So, in essence – my vote for Obama was a vote to “take the poison” – because the GOP doesn’t matter and can’t save us. Let’s go off the cliff now – and let Americans see what runaway entitlements does to their livlihoods.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Unfortunately see, everyone, good and bad, is going to have to pay for him, because of people like you.

Remind me never to be stuck in a firefight with you on my side. You would be the one forcing everyone to “take a bullet” just because you don’t like our odds of winning.

That is a judgment call. Right now the Institutional Republicans control the entire nominating process. If you remember, they tightened control on naming candidates at the last national convention, so the state and national committees get a veto.

Conservatives who are in congress have been marginalized and removed from any committees where they can do some good. Thus, the process to have any affect on the national level is going to have to be spending years getting people elected over the objections of those who would collaborate with the Democrats. Then, once we get them in congress, we have to fight more years as they take fire from both sides until we have enough in office to over-ride the Institutional Republicans. And note, that the Democrats will side with the Institutionals against conservatives.

With things going the way that they are, we have less than a year before the organic waste impacts the rotating airfoil economically or politically. And maybe one more election before Obama goes for it all. A new party will have the chance of drawing a few of the conservative incumbents, could handle its own nominations without being suppressed by the Republican parties, albeit it would mean petitioning onto the ballot and the coverage would be far from nationwide. And the incumbents and any new candidates could campaign on conservative issues and not be subordinate to the likes of Boehner.

Do I think that we would have that great an effect before the organic waste impacts? No, but then again with the current Republican *sarc* leadership /*sarc* and refusal to stand and fight for anything; we are going to be beaten by the Leftists like a rented mule. A real second party can at least be used as a point of organization for the Splat! moment.

There is no benefit to staying with the Republicans. There is an extremely slim chance that a new party can accomplish something to rebuild the country in the future.

YMMV

Subotai Bahadur on January 3, 2013 at 9:43 PM

This. Exquisitely and artfully stated.

Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

No amount of conservatives with guts in Congress can save the country now. The Dems have won.

Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

That works too. Will have to pay very close attention to who voted for what the last few days and also for the future. Will also take at least three or four cycles. Will require patience.

Michael’s on radio: “Obama is next going to destroy the military. The military budget will be cut so far that we won’t be able to sustain our national defense. When we lost the media, we lost the country”.
Also talked about while Diane Feinstein wants to take away Americans guns, her husband stands to make huge profits from the sale of Current TV to Al Jazeera.

http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/the-rich-get-richer-dianne-feinsteins-husband-also-cashes-in-on-current-sale-to-al-jazeera/

Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Yep, a third party will take too long to form. We just don’t have the time. We need to rip the Republican Party away from maggots.

VegasRick on January 3, 2013 at 6:16 PM

That is a judgment call. Right now the Institutional Republicans control the entire nominating process. If you remember, they tightened control on naming candidates at the last national convention, so the state and national committees get a veto.

Conservatives who are in congress have been marginalized and removed from any committees where they can do some good. Thus, the process to have any affect on the national level is going to have to be spending years getting people elected over the objections of those who would collaborate with the Democrats. Then, once we get them in congress, we have to fight more years as they take fire from both sides until we have enough in office to over-ride the Institutional Republicans. And note, that the Democrats will side with the Institutionals against conservatives.

With things going the way that they are, we have less than a year before the organic waste impacts the rotating airfoil economically or politically. And maybe one more election before Obama goes for it all. A new party will have the chance of drawing a few of the conservative incumbents, could handle its own nominations without being suppressed by the Republican parties, albeit it would mean petitioning onto the ballot and the coverage would be far from nationwide. And the incumbents and any new candidates could campaign on conservative issues and not be subordinate to the likes of Boehner.

Do I think that we would have that great an effect before the organic waste impacts? No, but then again with the current Republican *sarc* leadership /*sarc* and refusal to stand and fight for anything; we are going to be beaten by the Leftists like a rented mule. A real second party can at least be used as a point of organization for the Splat! moment.

There is no benefit to staying with the Republicans. There is an extremely slim chance that a new party can accomplish something to rebuild the country in the future.

YMMV