Open thread: House Speaker vote; Update: Boehner wins

posted at 12:11 pm on January 3, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Under normal circumstances, the vote for Speaker of the House would be a footnote to the opening day of a new Congressional session — but these aren’t normal circumstances.  There has been some grassroots effort to unseat John Boehner in today’s vote, or at least to pressure him into some concessions to conservatives who have felt rejected over the fiscal-cliff negotiations.  It may take as few as 17 dissident Republicans to force Boehner to campaign for his seat:

Rep. John Boehner is running unopposed to keep his job as House speaker for a second term, but the Ohio Republican’s reelection bid – the first vote of the 113th Congress, which convenes on Thursday – is nonetheless a churn of rumor and controversy.

It would take just 17 GOP dissenters to force a second ballot in Thursday’s 12:45 p.m. voice vote and force, perhaps, Boehner to withdraw his candidacy for reelection as speaker.

“It’s not going to happen,” says Michael Steel, a spokesman for Mr. Boehner, responding to such reports in an e-mail.

Here’s the rub: while there has been considerable dissatisfaction over the way Boehner has handled his job, there hasn’t been any public challenge to his speakership.  No one has publicly declared him/herself a candidate for the job.  Nor has anyone demonstrated any real inclination to take it, either by word or deed, as Ben Howe commented earlier on Twitter:

Erick Erickson noted the problem of “who else” after hearing from sources on Capitol Hill:

Jim Antle isn’t seeing any options, without Majority Leader Eric Cantor challenging:

Honestly, who would want the job?  They’d have a weak hand in every negotiation, and would have to somehow corral the entire fractious caucus to get anything done. The obvious choice would be Cantor, but he owes his House Majority Leader position to Boehner and hasn’t expressed any interest at all in the job.  No one else would be likely to get the votes.

I’d guess that we may see two or three ballots on the question, just to press Boehner into a hard commitment to force normal order in the 113th, a pledge he renewed this week.  Unless a leader rises to represent the dissenters, though, the vote will eventually go Boehner’s way.

Update: If there was going to be a serious challenge, one could expect the momentum to come from the conservative Republican Study Committee.  As our colleague Guy Benson noted, though, it sounds as though they’ve achieved some accommodation with Boehner:

Update: “No further nominations” other than Boehner or Nancy Pelosi. Pretty sure any abstentions will be minimal at this point.

Update: Justin Amash, who lost his committee assignment in a round of whip-cracking by Boehner after the election, voted for … Raul Labrador.

Update: Cantor received a protest vote from a freshman Republican, but wasn’t too happy about it:

Cantor voted for Boehner, apparently, although there was some confusion as to whether he responded at all.

Update: It’s not just Republicans casting protest votes:

Derp!

Update: We’re more than a third of the way through, and so far only 6 protest votes from Republicans, but Tim Huelskamp also got revenge for his committee punishment:

But …

Update: At the halfway mark,it’s looking like Boehner may have to sweat out a first-ballot win:

Update: Interestingly, both Price and Schweikert — who have openly opposed Boehner of late — voted to make him Speaker.

Update: As I suspected, Boehner won on the first ballot, and managed to do better than the bare-majority 218, too. Not that Boehner actually needed 218 votes to win — he only needed a majority of votes cast for any candidate, as the Congressional Research Service explained a year ago in a report, emphasis mine:

Each new House elects a Speaker by roll call vote when it first convenes. Customarily, the conference of each major party nominates a candidate whose name is placed in nomination. Members normally vote for the candidate of their own party conference, but may vote for any individual, whether nominated or not. To be elected, a candidate must receive an absolute majority of all the votes cast for individuals. This number may be less than a majority (now 218) of the full membership of the House, because of vacancies, absentees, or members voting “present.”

It appears that Boehner had about a 20-vote cushion after accounting for various protest votes, so in effect it wasn’t even really close.

Update: Today’s biggest loser?

A conservative group aiming to oust John Boehner as speaker of the House said on Wednesday that they have commitments from enough Republicans in Congress to deliver the political surprise of the year and deny the Ohio Republican another two years with the speaker’s gavel.

“I have confirmed with a group of congressmen that Speaker Boehner will not be elected speaker tomorrow,” Ron Meyer of the group American Majority Action wrote in an email Wednesday evening. “He will either resign or be forced out tomorrow.”

In a phone interview with The Daily Caller, Meyer said “more than 20” Republicans have told his group they won’t vote for Boehner during elections Thursday. American Majority Action is a conservative organization based in Virginia that is active in the tea party movement. It is run by Ned Ryun, the son of former Republican Rep. Jim Ryun of Kansas.

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I wonder if Boehner will cry when he wins then say, “You love me…you really love me”, with Cantor rubbing Boehner’s shoulders…

William Eaton on January 3, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Not far off from the mark, I’m afraid. Sans the Cantor shoulder rub however.

Yup. The nutless Wonder Boy Boehner got all weepy and verklempt during his swearing in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAQgrHamL2U

Go figure.

SD Tom on January 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM

The only solace in the big picture is knowing that the coming years of liberal rule will eventually turn on itself and conservatism will someday make a comeback. That will only happen long after I am gone.

metroryder on January 3, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Sincere condolences

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I suspect everyone at Faux News is jumping for joy that their favourite RINO got re-instated. Hannity probably has a heart on. I’m sure Ann Coulter is wetter than a hurricane.

Faramir on January 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM

The Primordial: “The left is worse but the Vichy Right is more pathetic”.

Agree! The left stand up & fight for their immoral beliefs. The right stands for nothing & fights only to preserve their power & greed.

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Yup. The nutless Wonder Boy Boehner got all weepy and verklempt during his swearing in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAQgrHamL2U

Go figure.

SD Tom on January 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM

He’s gon’ really stick it to Obama in the next phases, heh.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 2:57 PM

You need a non-Romney, to lead and unite the followers…also, convince them why they should vote for you, not against a dummy narcissistic pretender.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Technically, it shouldn’t be required to tell people not to vote for (or vote against) a “dummy narcissistic pretender” and other fine descriptors.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Agree! The left stand up & fight for their immoral beliefs. The right stands for nothing & fights only to preserve their power & greed.

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 2:56 PM

You do get it, sad for the land and her children…

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM

In a land not full of sheeple and plankton, from both sides, alas

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 2:59 PM

OK, John…

… start cutting spending.

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM

metroryder on January 3, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Matt Lewis is an idiot.

rrpjr on January 3, 2013 at 3:04 PM

And yet most here will continue to dutifully vote Republican.

hatecraft on January 3, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Nope, I’m done. The failure of 2012 was the last straw for me. I’d have left after 2010 if I hadn’t wanted Obama out so badly.

I’m done with them. I can’t trust them. Their talk doesn’t match actions. Only a handful voted down Boehner? Really? This was their last chance to show they are principled.

Decoski on January 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I’ve been done with them since 2010 when it became clear that internal reform of the party was impossible. I’m basically looking around for some party which might be able to wipe out and replace the GOP from the outside.

Perhaps you and others are like this because you reconginze that you have no power whatsoever. So rather than take charge with your own hands and wade into the swamp, you would preene to stay on the shoreline wharing immaculate clothing while shouting epitaths at everybody else over the state of affairs. I really despise people like you for that, willing to exist over the backs of other, just like the left-wing in this country.

eva3071 on January 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM

You can “rage against the machine” all you like but you’re not entitled to his or anyone’s else’s votes. At some point a political party has to provide actual deliverables to its voters in the form of preferred policies and electoral victories. The GOP has manifestly failed in the former since, probably, the Bush tax cuts were enacted, and the latter since about 2006 or so.

You are getting too religious about politics. The Republican Party isn’t worth fighting for because it’s the Republican Party; it’s worth fighting for if it serves as a useful vehicle to advance the cause of conservatism. The party base right now doubts that utility and is starting to drift away from the GOP as the party leadership continues to tell fiscal, social, and foreign policy conservatives that their policy preferences are “too exrtreme.”

Doomberg on January 3, 2013 at 3:05 PM

All through Nancy Pelosi’s introduction, and when she handed re-elected Speaker Boehner the giant gavel, and throughout his acceptance speech, my mind’s mantra was: Don’t cry, dammit. Don’t cry!

He made it…barely, with only a couple hanky-wipes to the schnoz and one choked-up, half-blubbering rough patch.

Welcome to the Capitol, Lucky ’13 Congresspeeps!

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on January 3, 2013 at 3:07 PM

I especially liked his remarks about creating economic opportunity and prosperity for our children. Nice touch, Mr. Speaker.

Kissmygrits on January 3, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Who wants to explain to the dead possum?

tarpon on January 3, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Does anyone notice your whys, are decidely different than theirs.
Power and greed it’s all you need know to figure out WDC.

tarpon on January 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Give me a reason to support the GOP. First Boner delivers the fiscal cliff bill for Obama that spends $41 for every $1 in cuts. That adds to the deficit and raises taxes on 77% of the people who pay taxes.

In the house 150 republicans voted no only 85 voted with boner & obama. It was carried because the democrats voted with boner. Not two days later only 17 out of 150 don’t vote for boner for speaker.

Are the Gop in the house that worthless. Only 17 GOp house members have balls.

Forget about the senate GOP, they are all in the tank for Obama and don’t give me Rand Paul & rubio voted against. They voted strategically so as to run for president. If they were truely against the bill they WOULD HAVE LED AND GOTTEN MORE SENATORS TO VOTE AGAINST!!!!

Danielvito on January 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM

How ’bout that? Allen West was my choice, too. Good to see he got a couple votes.

The Rogue Tomato on January 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Benedict Obama couldn’t let his favorite chump get pushed out of the rino/eSTABrepub leadership position. After all, where else is the TRAITOR-in-chief going to find another lapdog like Boehner & the rest of the eSTABrepubs/rinos? Let’s face it, if it wasn’t for Boehner’s incompetence & treason, Benedict Obama, would probably be in jail by now! Between Fast & Furious and Benghazi, The Murderer-in-chief has gotten more cover from Boehner, Issa, juan Mclib, Lindsey Grahamnesty & the rest of the rino TRAITORS, then they did from their own sycophant Racists, you know, the Propaganda Ministry at MSKKK & the New Black Racists Network!

http://www.paratisiusa.blogspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on January 3, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Perhaps you and others are like this because you reconginze that you have no power whatsoever. So rather than take charge with your own hands and wade into the swamp, you would preene to stay on the shoreline wharing immaculate clothing while shouting epitaths at everybody else over the state of affairs. I really despise people like you for that, willing to exist over the backs of other, just like the left-wing in this country.

eva3071 on January 3, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Taketh thee to the nearest grammar, punctuation and spelling trauma centre. Some of us refuse to be “put in our place” by the illiterate.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Forget about the senate GOP, they are all in the tank for Obama and don’t give me Rand Paul & rubio voted against. They voted strategically so as to run for president. If they were truely against the bill they WOULD HAVE LED AND GOTTEN MORE SENATORS TO VOTE AGAINST!!!!

Danielvito on January 3, 2013 at 3:15 PM

You need to keep in mind that right now actual conservatives (as opposed to Republicans) are very weak electorally, especially in the Senate. There’s only a handful at best. I am no fan of Rubio (I like Paul much better) but they have very little power to do anything right now. The Senate is very firmly in the grip of the GOP establishment right now.

I think this problem, more than anything else, is why Jim DeMint walked away from the Senate. I can’t blame him.

Doomberg on January 3, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Derp?

peski on January 3, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Durka!

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 3:24 PM

OK, John…

… start cutting spending.

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM

well nice job….now you’ve got him crying again.

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Speaker Sissytpants.

yaaaaay!

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 3:25 PM

LOL!

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Every spending bill has to originate in the House. I’m getting tired of hearing how the Republicans have such a weak hand. What they really have is a weak backbone. Since when is the one holding the purse strings in the weak position?

cajunpatriot on January 3, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Street thug sips Mai Tai on the beach…Nancy boy is all verklempt…

d1carter on January 3, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Meyer said “more than 20” Republicans have told his group they won’t vote for Boehner during elections Thursday.

Update: Boehner wins

Welcome to the new Republican party, Meyer. Liars, the lot of them.

Sterling Holobyte on January 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM

SWalker on January 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Hats off to you Sir! Great post!

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 3:31 PM

trauma centre. Some of us refuse to be “put in our place” by the illiterate.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM

It’s “center” :)

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 3:33 PM

This is how you play hardball for keeps. This is why Bonehead Boehner is a traitor and a coward. He could demand ANYTHING and get it. Demand a Flat tax, no flax tax, no money for anyone. No spending cuts, let’s see who can stand in the fire longer. The Speaker of the House could shut the Government down for 1 full year. Nobody would get paid during that time.

SWalker on January 3, 2013 at 12:37 PM

You’re talking about a speake with a full set, like Pelosi.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Technically, it shouldn’t be required to tell people not to vote for (or vote against) a “dummy narcissistic pretender” and other fine descriptors.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 2:58 PM

.
Coorrect…., unless you are a Democrat.

It’s not you, it’s me.

FlaMurph on January 3, 2013 at 3:38 PM

speaker

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 3:38 PM

It’s “center” :)

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Only for your rubes in the colonies. lol

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

… start cutting spending.

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2013 at 3:02 PM

*rimshot

equanimous on January 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

“you rubes”

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Every spending bill has to originate in the House. I’m getting tired of hearing how the Republicans have such a weak hand. What they really have is a weak backbone. Since when is the one holding the purse strings in the weak position?

cajunpatriot on January 3, 2013 at 3:29 PM

It’s not just Boehner – it’s McConnell too. McConnell could have shut down the Senate completely by vowing to filibuster – EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF LEGISLATION HARRY REID PUT FORWARD until he passed a federal budget.

We haven’t had a federal budget in what? Almost five years? Why the hell is McConnell allowing votes on Internet bills which are a violation of privacy anyway?

This is how you do sh1t people …

After two months of pressure tactics intended to force the Clinton Administration to revamp its foreign policy bureaucracy, Senator Jesse Helms has dug in, vowing to continue to hold up all ambassadorial appointments until he is taken more seriously.

As part of his campaign, the North Carolina Republican has halted business meetings of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, frozen 400 State Department promotions and blocked more than a dozen treaties and other international agreements, including the second Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty and the Chemical Weapons Convention, so they cannot be voted on by the full Senate.

As a result, 30 ambassadorial nominees and one Assistant Secretary of State are awaiting confirmation, about 15 percent of American embassies around the world have been left without new ambassadors and the day-to-day foreign policy business on Capitol Hill has ground to a halt.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

See…you ran those two Paulians off……well done!

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM

To the “stop whining and particpate” commenters: I did, and then the Dem put up billboards made to look like the GOP candidate did them, without ANY indication they were from the Dem. Violated election law, not one peep out of any significant news outlet in the district. Unwashed liberal freaks in one big city out voted the rest of us, Dem wins, will never be punished for violating election law. All of our efforts were like tilting at windmills, with the campaign staff of the dem including every almost every member of the district’s media . . .

To the “Boehner won, get over it”: I believe our lament is not that Boehner won, but that nobody stepped up to challenge him. It shows that our weak speaker is actually the strongest of the bunch, which is a horrible statement. It has to turn the stomach of all of those who worked their butts off to elect people like Bachmann, Cantor, etc. that in the end they wouldn’t stand up and do the really hard work and instead let a speaker who is facing multiple ethics charges and breaks every time run unopposed.

To those saying the deal “added to the deficit”: NO IT DIDN’T. First, nobody ever believed the “middle class” tax cuts weren’t going to be extended, except the CBO who used it for previous deficit calculations and had to redo them without that revenue. Second, overspending is ALWAYS the cause of deficits. Revenue goes up and down unpredictably with the economy, tax rates, etc, but deficits can be controlled by only spending what you bring in. Conservatives especially need to stop falling for this.

To those saying “the GOP is done”: Unfortunately I agree, but I also think it will all be moot (I know the trolls would spell this “mute”). Obama is going to issue an EO attempting to take our guns, or the money is going to run out, or our credit rating is going to get lowered, or all of the above and more. The average urban grocery store has 4 days worth of food. How long do you think unrest has to happen that disrupts deliveries before the cities start food riots? This country is teetering on the edge of chaos and the progs are licking their chops at the prospect of pushing us over. And they’ll do it by EO whether Boehner or Cantor or Allan West is speaker, with full cover and support by the Traitorous media.

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

OK, I’ve figured it out, I think. All these Repub pols are just in it for the power and money but they’ve got a mostly RW constituency to serve.
When the election is far off they act like typical power/money hungry parasitic pols but(and here is what I figured out) when the election gets close they start to talk all conservative; They are going to cut this and slash that. And they believe in limited government and the power of the individual,blah,blah…

And they all talk so good that I totally forget that they didn’t do none of it for the past 2-6 years. So, every time the election comes along I hear this sweet talking Repub telling me what I want to hear, and he’s running against a flaming commie, so the repubs got my vote. But then, the next day he’s talking amnesty and status quo on spending. And I’m like whaaaa happened?!?

I wish I could say that next election wont be different but IT WONT. I’m a boxhead and there are billions of us. We get fooled every time. Those pols are just too smart.

BoxHead1 on January 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Only for you rubes in the colonies. lol

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Your queen will come after you :)

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Raul Labrador 4 President!

Abby Adams on January 3, 2013 at 12:43 PM

I know people who know him personally so please believe me when I say

NO! NO! NO WAY! ABSOLUTELY NOT!

alchemist19 on January 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:41 PM

grrrr…my face is crimson in colour.

;-)

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 3:42 PM

How come you’re not happy? You voted for Obama.

You are getting what you voted for.

Awww. You’re here to mock us and make fun of us because we lost and didn’t vote for Obama, The Winner, like you did.

That is not very nice.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Your queen will come after you :)

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM

At least, my Queen is less expensive than your Emperor. lol

See…you ran those two Paulians off……well done!

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM

When they start whining about Paul Pot mockery, as though it is unjustified, it doesn’t take much.

PINK MONEY! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, we need libenslavedthendie to give us the homosexual take on that. My gaydar starts blinking whenever I read the quote about “pink money.” Smacks of homophobia, if you ask me. :-)

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM

This worthy watching.
Strangely engrossing.

verbaluce on January 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM

grrrr…my face is crimson in colour.

;-)

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM

I see what you did there. ;-)

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

with full cover and support by the Traitorous media.

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Do not forget that Gore sold Current to Al Jazeera rather than Glenn Beck (who had a higher $$ offer apparently).

This is who we are fighting. They are not in it to lose and will align with anyone in order to do so.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Excellent post, PastorJon.

Just one more item – the gov’t has been steadily scouting for and making note of all the water supplies, large and small. It is one more big item to control the masses or to create chaos with.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 3:57 PM

This worthy watching.
Strangely engrossing.

verbaluce on January 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM

bad link actually –
i mean this on c-span:
Ceremonial Swearing-In of House Members: Live Now

verbaluce on January 3, 2013 at 4:00 PM

spineless toads………. now we have proof.

ultracon on January 3, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Oh, and WHEN it all comes crashing down, I hope all the moochers who have been convinced we’re going broke because the 1% need to pay more than 58% of the taxes attack the 1%ers in the media first. May Diane Sawyer, George Stephanopolous, David Letterman, Matt Lauer, Katie Couric, etc. be their first targets as the moochers come to take what Obama and their ilk have convinced them is theirs.

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 4:02 PM

At least, my Queen is less expensive than your Emperor. lol

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Your queen doesn’t have such a sassy spouse though.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 4:03 PM

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Love it!!!

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Biden – in strange accent – to brother of the only African-American member of the upper chamber, Senator Tim Scott:

‘If you need any help on your pecs, let me know’

If Biden were a monkey in the zoo, he would fling shit at himself. What a buffooooooooooooooooooooooon!

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Your queen doesn’t have such a sassy spouse though.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Tru dat, but his arse is smaller.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Tru dat, but his arse is smaller.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 4:06 PM

He’s also a smaller ars.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

If Biden were a monkey in the zoo, he would fling shit at himself.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 4:05 PM

He’s proven that he doesn’t have to be a monkey to do that.

ElectricPhase on January 3, 2013 at 4:08 PM

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Yep, get ready for bunker mode. My how we’re ‘Progressing’.

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 4:02 PM

That would be lovely… but not likely. Regardless some LIVs are in for a rude awakening.

ghostwalker1 on January 3, 2013 at 4:12 PM

He’s proven that he doesn’t have to be a monkey to do that.

ElectricPhase on January 3, 2013 at 4:08 PM

You’re right.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM

How come you’re not happy? You voted for Obama.

You are getting what you voted for.

Awww. You’re here to mock us and make fun of us because we lost and didn’t vote for Obama, The Winner, like you did.

That is not very nice.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Since you’re such an idiot – you REMEMBER that I voted for Obama – but don’t seem to remember why I voted for him.

Several reasons – which I’ve explained all before …

1. Americans have lost their desire to fight for their freedom and liberty – the way our forefathers did. The only way to reverse that trend is to FORCE them to fight for their liberty and the only way to do that is TAKE THEIR LIBERTY AWAY. Appropriately, Obama being the most Marxist candidate (even though Willard was pretty “marxist” himself) was the appropriate vote.

2. The Republican party is a bunch of corrupt theives. I knew this almost two years ago – and many on HotAir are reaching the same conclusion now. It does NO GOOD to vote for the GOP. Hell, the best budget situation we ever had was with a Democratic POTUS (Clinton) and a GOP Congress (which actually had a few balls to fight – way back then). When the GOP took total control of the government in 2000 – what did it get you guys? It got you (us) Medicare Part D – the biggest expansion of the entitlement state since LBJ – UNFUNDED. And we “conservatives” b1tch today about Obama increasing entitlements even though we smilingly went along with G.W. Bush when he did it.

3. The Republicans don’t keep promises – they don’t deliver. The last 50 years is evidence of that.

4. The GOP Nomination process is rigged. Because most of the party is CONSERVATIVE – there is always a plethora of conservative candidates who run for the nomination. The liberal establishment however, picks ONE SQUISH every four years and that squish WINS with 30 percent of the GOP electorate’s support. I’m not rewarding such a warped process by VOTING for that squish once he’s nominated.

5. Clear to me – that the only salvation for liberty here is to get one party in shape to fight for it. That won’t be the Dims but it could be the GOP (or other party) if we body slam the hell out of the establishment that has brought us nothing but misery.

So, in essence – my vote for Obama was a vote to “take the poison” – because the GOP doesn’t matter and can’t save us. Let’s go off the cliff now – and let Americans see what runaway entitlements does to their livlihoods.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

…To those saying “the GOP is done”: Unfortunately I agree, but I also think it will all be moot (I know the trolls would spell this “mute”). Obama is going to issue an EO attempting to take our guns, or the money is going to run out, or our credit rating is going to get lowered, or all of the above and more. The average urban grocery store has 4 days worth of food. How long do you think unrest has to happen that disrupts deliveries before the cities start food riots? This country is teetering on the edge of chaos and the progs are licking their chops at the prospect of pushing us over. And they’ll do it by EO whether Boehner or Cantor or Allan West is speaker, with full cover and support by the Traitorous media.

PastorJon on January 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

This has been the 800lb gorilla in the room that’s been making me nervous since the election and our national direction was set by moron voters.

Meople on January 3, 2013 at 4:27 PM

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

this one is proud to be the first to throw in the towel, a man’s gotta stand fer sumpin’!

DanMan on January 3, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Update: Boehner wins America loses

Alternative headline …

ShainS on January 3, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Every spending bill has to originate in the House. I’m getting tired of hearing how the Republicans have such a weak hand. What they really have is a weak backbone. Since when is the one holding the purse strings in the weak position?

cajunpatriot on January 3, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Yep! No one steps up and makes the argument. Sad.

lucyvanpelt on January 3, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Is there a well-publicized place, one in which the media will take notice, where Republicans and former Republicans can sign a resolution/statement of no-confidence in the current Pub members of Congress? My first thought was the WH petition site but that wouldn’t fit or be appropriate. It wouldn’t be binding or have any such lofty goal. But it might get a few points across.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

So you voted to have people hurt more rather than work towards fixing things from the inside or getting a good third party going.

You voted for socialism and stupidity.

Regardless of how crappy the GOP is/was YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA, the king of crappy.

So now we all get to fight for the 1st and 2nd amendments and who knows what else for the NEXT FOUR YEARS. Think of that. Four more years of this. Four long years.

But it’s better than taking some crap now and working towards sanity, right?

And you’re absolutely positively 100% sure that hitting bottom won’t be worse and that socialism won’t gain roots that will never get cut.

Of course. You’re smarter than the rest of us, Obama voter.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 4:43 PM

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Might I also add that you had other options. Stay home. Vote for Johnson or some other name on the ballot. Leave it blank.

Whatever.

But you actually voted for Obama and socialism.

How can any self-respecting conservative respect that no matter what the rationale?

And you actually gave money to Elizabeth Warren. Good grief.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Well, I see this news engendered some commentary. Disappointing news. I’m used to it and, so over it I’ve pretty much checked out.

totherightofthem on January 3, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Drunk Uncle Joe and his casual racism on full display… Sad thing is that he is apparently more competent than Barry.

Illinidiva on January 3, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Boner:

“Mr. President, this time I REALLY mean it. I’m going to hold the line and get tough. Pinky swear.”

Tenwheeler on January 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Husband is talking 3rd party…if there was a 3rd party capable of winning.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM

So, in essence – my vote for Obama was a vote to “take the poison” – because the GOP doesn’t matter and can’t save us. Let’s go off the cliff now – and let Americans see what runaway entitlements does to their livlihoods.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

I agree with what you wrote, to this point.

At this point I nearly hurled.

All who brought Obama, from the left to the right, and theirs, deserve Obama’s full demise, horrendous suffering, hunger, in the cold/dark.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Newly-minted Congressman from Oklahoma votes for Cantor.

I admire your stones, Sir. Large, round, and furry.

Hope you enjoyed your moment in the sunshine.

Brutus (Boner) is coming for you.

Watch your back.

Tenwheeler on January 3, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Perversion.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Husband is talking 3rd party…if there was a 3rd party capable of winning.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM

GOP as it is is not capable of winning or if they do it’s a hot mess. Might as well use this time to get something better happening.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Perversion.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Shut up you “coward” and “Purist”.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Republicans that didn’t support Boehner:

Justin Amash-MI 3 (voted for Labrador)
Jim Bridenstine-OK 1 (voted for Cantor)
Paul Broun-GA 10 (voted for West)
Louie Gohmert-TX 1 (voted for West)
Tim Huelskamp-KS 1 (voted for Jordan)
Walter Jones-NC 3 (voted for Walker)
Raul Labrador-ID 1 (no vote)
Thomas Massie-KY 4 (voted for Amash)
Mick Mulvaney-SC 5 (no vote)
Steve Pearce-NM 2 (voted for Cantor)
Steve Stockman-TX 36 (present)
Ted Yoho-FL 3 (voted for Cantor)

Democrats that didn’t support Pelosi:

John Barrow-GA 12 (voted for Lewis)
Earl Blumenauer-OR 3 (no vote)
Jim Cooper-TN 5 (voted for Powell)
Jim Matheson-UT 4 (voted for Dingell)
Mike McIntyre-NC 7 (voted for Cooper)
Dan Lipinski-IL 3 (voted for Cooper)

topdawg on January 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM

yeah…his world-view is crazier than a bag of cats…it’s fun to watch him spout his pretzel logic though.

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM

; )

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 5:16 PM

If Boehner was a man, he would pass a budget with no funding for Obamacare included and adjourn. Hold a press conference saying that the House has executed its Constitutional and moral responsibility for the American people and that it is up to The Senate and President to do their jobs.

Then every member goes back to their districts and spends the rest of the year arguing their case.

Then the Republicans in the Senate should filibuster all activity until an up or down vote on that budget is taken.

Rinse and repeat until the American people either fire them or fire the Dems.

A guy can dream…

Malachi45 on January 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM

So, in essence – my vote for Obama was a vote to “take the poison” – because the GOP doesn’t matter and can’t save us. Let’s go off the cliff now – and let Americans see what runaway entitlements does to their livlihoods.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

No matter what you say, forever more, you will have always been one of the people that enabled the path to totalitarian governance. Nothing will ever excuse or change that.

Malachi45 on January 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Since you’re such an idiot – you REMEMBER that I voted for Obama – but don’t seem to remember why I voted for him.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

You wrote more than that; hope you enjoyed the finger exercise – I certainly stopped reading.

f*ck you, you POS.

Midas on January 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM

If Biden were a monkey in the zoo, he would fling shit at himself. What a buffooooooooooooooooooooooon!

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Please help me identify this creature – is it Biden, yes or no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRc8njN6C-E

Anti-Control on January 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Anti-Control on January 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

OMG! LOL LOL LOL LOL

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 5:32 PM

where’s Honda’s protector GravityStone? er I mean FloatingRock

DanMan on January 3, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Anti-Control on January 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

lol….

seriously disturbing / Hilarious

(I’m so conflicted)

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Please help me identify this creature – is it Biden, yes or no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRc8njN6C-E

Anti-Control on January 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Too much hair.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Since you’re such an idiot – you REMEMBER that I voted for Obama – but don’t seem to remember why I voted for him.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

“Why” doesn’t effing matter, moron.

Malachi45 on January 3, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Today’s biggest loser………
The American People …………

angrymike on January 3, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Taketh thee to the nearest grammar, punctuation and spelling trauma centre. Some of us refuse to be “put in our place” by the illiterate.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Whew! Thanks for that. eva’s post was almost painful to read it was such gibberish.

totherightofthem on January 3, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Michelle Malkin @michellemalkin

Gohmert votes for Allen West.

davidk on January 3, 2013 at 5:58 PM

*poof*
hehe………

angrymike on January 3, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Husband is talking 3rd party…if there was a 3rd party capable of winning.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 3, 2013 at 4:59 PM

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GOP as it is is not capable of winning or if they do it’s a hot mess. Might as well use this time to get something better happening.

kim roy
on January 3, 2013 at 5:05 PM

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Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Yep, a third party will take too long to form. We just don’t have the time. We need to rip the Republican Party away from maggots.

VegasRick on January 3, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Please help me identify this creature – is it Biden, yes or no?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRc8njN6C-E

Anti-Control on January 3, 2013 at 5:29 PM

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Whether Biden or not … words still fail me.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:18 PM

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