Open thread: House Speaker vote; Update: Boehner wins

posted at 12:11 pm on January 3, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Under normal circumstances, the vote for Speaker of the House would be a footnote to the opening day of a new Congressional session — but these aren’t normal circumstances.  There has been some grassroots effort to unseat John Boehner in today’s vote, or at least to pressure him into some concessions to conservatives who have felt rejected over the fiscal-cliff negotiations.  It may take as few as 17 dissident Republicans to force Boehner to campaign for his seat:

Rep. John Boehner is running unopposed to keep his job as House speaker for a second term, but the Ohio Republican’s reelection bid – the first vote of the 113th Congress, which convenes on Thursday – is nonetheless a churn of rumor and controversy.

It would take just 17 GOP dissenters to force a second ballot in Thursday’s 12:45 p.m. voice vote and force, perhaps, Boehner to withdraw his candidacy for reelection as speaker.

“It’s not going to happen,” says Michael Steel, a spokesman for Mr. Boehner, responding to such reports in an e-mail.

Here’s the rub: while there has been considerable dissatisfaction over the way Boehner has handled his job, there hasn’t been any public challenge to his speakership.  No one has publicly declared him/herself a candidate for the job.  Nor has anyone demonstrated any real inclination to take it, either by word or deed, as Ben Howe commented earlier on Twitter:

Erick Erickson noted the problem of “who else” after hearing from sources on Capitol Hill:

Jim Antle isn’t seeing any options, without Majority Leader Eric Cantor challenging:

Honestly, who would want the job?  They’d have a weak hand in every negotiation, and would have to somehow corral the entire fractious caucus to get anything done. The obvious choice would be Cantor, but he owes his House Majority Leader position to Boehner and hasn’t expressed any interest at all in the job.  No one else would be likely to get the votes.

I’d guess that we may see two or three ballots on the question, just to press Boehner into a hard commitment to force normal order in the 113th, a pledge he renewed this week.  Unless a leader rises to represent the dissenters, though, the vote will eventually go Boehner’s way.

Update: If there was going to be a serious challenge, one could expect the momentum to come from the conservative Republican Study Committee.  As our colleague Guy Benson noted, though, it sounds as though they’ve achieved some accommodation with Boehner:

Update: “No further nominations” other than Boehner or Nancy Pelosi. Pretty sure any abstentions will be minimal at this point.

Update: Justin Amash, who lost his committee assignment in a round of whip-cracking by Boehner after the election, voted for … Raul Labrador.

Update: Cantor received a protest vote from a freshman Republican, but wasn’t too happy about it:

Cantor voted for Boehner, apparently, although there was some confusion as to whether he responded at all.

Update: It’s not just Republicans casting protest votes:

Derp!

Update: We’re more than a third of the way through, and so far only 6 protest votes from Republicans, but Tim Huelskamp also got revenge for his committee punishment:

But …

Update: At the halfway mark,it’s looking like Boehner may have to sweat out a first-ballot win:

Update: Interestingly, both Price and Schweikert — who have openly opposed Boehner of late — voted to make him Speaker.

Update: As I suspected, Boehner won on the first ballot, and managed to do better than the bare-majority 218, too. Not that Boehner actually needed 218 votes to win — he only needed a majority of votes cast for any candidate, as the Congressional Research Service explained a year ago in a report, emphasis mine:

Each new House elects a Speaker by roll call vote when it first convenes. Customarily, the conference of each major party nominates a candidate whose name is placed in nomination. Members normally vote for the candidate of their own party conference, but may vote for any individual, whether nominated or not. To be elected, a candidate must receive an absolute majority of all the votes cast for individuals. This number may be less than a majority (now 218) of the full membership of the House, because of vacancies, absentees, or members voting “present.”

It appears that Boehner had about a 20-vote cushion after accounting for various protest votes, so in effect it wasn’t even really close.

Update: Today’s biggest loser?

A conservative group aiming to oust John Boehner as speaker of the House said on Wednesday that they have commitments from enough Republicans in Congress to deliver the political surprise of the year and deny the Ohio Republican another two years with the speaker’s gavel.

“I have confirmed with a group of congressmen that Speaker Boehner will not be elected speaker tomorrow,” Ron Meyer of the group American Majority Action wrote in an email Wednesday evening. “He will either resign or be forced out tomorrow.”

In a phone interview with The Daily Caller, Meyer said “more than 20” Republicans have told his group they won’t vote for Boehner during elections Thursday. American Majority Action is a conservative organization based in Virginia that is active in the tea party movement. It is run by Ned Ryun, the son of former Republican Rep. Jim Ryun of Kansas.

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This has to be the most disappointing day since the election. In some ways it’s more depressing. We knew the moochers were going to vote for their Messiah, but this time, the Republican party has turned its back on their base conservative voters and just decided to give up on conservatism. Our government is now Socialism Plan A (Democrats) and Socialism Plan B (Republicans).

sauldalinsky on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

RINOs running wild!

philw1776 on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Your tin foil hat is on crooked.

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

CThe Republic is screwed.

rayra on January 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Those ones that “abstain” make me sick. Either way, make a stand Damn it! What a bunch of spineless numbnuts.
…just saying *sigh*

tencole on January 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Heh, Ryan and Bachmann…what traitors!!!

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Ha! I’m starting the new FU® party.

Mr. Arrogant on January 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Nah, Ryan was himself, but Bachmann? You are a harlot, like all the others.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Bring on the Pistol Shrimp for good measure.

Nugent, Norris, Pistol Shrimp.

Maybe a box jellyfish for Reid to swim with.

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM

The once freest land deserves to be scroomed until most bleed in pain.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM

What the heck happened to the Tea Party and TRUE LIMITED government Conservatives?

Are there none in Congress? Apparently not.

PappyD61 on January 3, 2013 at 1:19 PM

What Tea Party? You mean the ones who voted to raise the debt ceiling last time around? The ones who vote in line with establishment?

You’re kidding yourself.

Dante on January 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM

This was stupid. Nobody else wanted the job, of course he got the votes.

Rocks on January 3, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Yes. It would have been nice to heave Boehner out the door with a box of Kleenex, but could you just imagine the clusterfark trying to decide between all the good people beating the door down for the job?

What were they going to do? Draw straws? Play musical chairs and the last person standing gets the job? Roofie someone and place their body in Boehner’s chair?

Or just leave it as an empty chair?

It’s not a complete surprise when no one stood up and said “I’ll do it”.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM

i’m not surprised about bachman. she was mitts stalking horse, if y’all remember.

renalin on January 3, 2013 at 1:31 PM

What Tea Party? You mean the ones who voted to raise the debt ceiling last time around? The ones who vote in line with establishment?

You’re kidding yourself.

Dante on January 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM

You’re right!!! See Bachmann then and today, harlots one and all, whores on the dole.

All out in 2014, if there is still a land to vote for.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Reviewing the tape and CoffeeLover’s count (Boehner at 216 after the initial roll-call read-through), it appears it was Marsha Blackburn who put Boehner over the top. Thanks to 2 vacancies, he needed 217, not 218.

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Bring on the Pistol Shrimp for good measure.

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Where’s sparky?

Do you need a background check to legally own pistol shrimp?

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

O.K., I had to correct the cheap knock off of the Banana Splits
theme song…..below is the original

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxhoGTq_Sms

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

In a way it is good that Boehner won… This stupid public infighting among Republicans must stop and electing him shows at least the official party is united… Now for the screamers on the internet that is a different story…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

i’m not surprised about bachman. she was mitts stalking horse, if y’all remember.

renalin on January 3, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Yeah, Sarah Palin didn’t run and Bachmann did…and let’s make this thread into that nonsense…similar to the Ron Paul threads.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Can we now say it’s official in Teatermerica?

We have one party rule.

….WE must be disarmed before it all collapses.

At this point I expect the DEAD gop to go along with Amnesty and Gun Ban.

PappyD61 on January 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

It’s time to stop voting Republican, and time to form a new party.

THE WHIGS GOP MUST GO

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM

with you there ….

And it’s not that they don’t know. The base has been screaming at them for YEARS – and not just the Obama years – about spending.

No one cares.

Washington Nearsider on January 3, 2013 at 12:51 PM

time to make them care ….
time for a 3rd party …. I am do with these traitors

conservative tarheel on January 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

As usual, the CINOs are whining. Lol.

tommy71 on January 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

This is really a victory for Obama. He now knows it’s a weak GOP.

This representatives just representative themselves. Bachman, Ryan, the others talk a good game. But in the end they go establishment.

New American (Conservative) Party now!

Oil Can on January 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Stockman, Mulvaney and Labrador voted present/didn’t vote at all.

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Update: As I suspected, Boehner won on the first ballot,

Such trenchant analysis. Last time it WASN’T resolved on the first ballot was 1923.

rayra on January 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

it wasn’t her time. hold on to your undies. She’s coming.

renalin on January 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Reviewing the tape and CoffeeLover’s count (Boehner at 216 after the initial roll-call read-through), it appears it was Marsha Blackburn who put Boehner over the top. Thanks to 2 vacancies, he needed 217, not 218.

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Thanks for counting and keeping all informed. Apparently he didn’t need that many…Ed updated something up top…no matter, the land is full of harlots on the dole, starting with most all in DC.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1RFRoleEd0

and this.

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM

It appears that Boehner had about a 20-vote cushion after accounting for various protest votes, so in effect it wasn’t even really close.

Well, that was a shocker.

Yep, a real nail biter.

I was on the edge of my seat.

I just can’t believe that Bachmann or West didn’t pull off a coup.

There’s always next time.

Mr. Arkadin on January 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM

renalin on January 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM

I told y’all last time that she will not run. Let me be the first to tell you the same.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I always wanted one of those six-wheeled amphibious ATVs they used to drive during the show’s intro.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I just can’t believe that Bachmann or West didn’t pull off a coup.

There’s always next time.

Mr. Arkadin on January 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Pelosi would have, but then she has convictions.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I was thinking, while driving to the laundromat (another story)

:

The one way that Nemesis – a favorite meme of Prof. Victor Hanson – could still cite the Dems in the butt:

0bama – as is his wont, went out of his way to insult the GOP and rub it in. McCain made a point of speaking on it. Stay with me here….

The RINO’s have a fetish of standing on parliamentary collegiality – even with the traitors in our midst.

So…. we have McCain excoriating 0bama’s “I won” attitude the other night… Boehner telling Reid to GFY, Foehner saying he won’t meet with 0bama anymore…and 0bama bragging how he won’t budge on the fiscal cliff… and then McConnell this morning coming back with, “oh yes you will.”

It’s possible, in my opinion, that despite his brilliant job of dividing and crushing the GOP, 0bama’s and Reid’s hubris may just finally result in a perfect Nemesis storm where the GOP finally does tell 0bama to GFH on the debt ceiling.

Soime think otherwise… I think that the way the debt-ceiling fight goes down will decide the 2014 elections… and control of Congress.

Are the Repubs willing to shut down the Gov’t, a la Newt?

Not usually… but maybe the collegial squishes up there have finally had enough of 0bama’s attitude.

One can only hope, True_King notwithstanding.

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM

I just can’t believe that Bachmann or West didn’t pull off a coup.

There’s always next time.

Mr. Arkadin on January 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM

West isn’t there anymore to pull a coup. Bachmann, after Boehner’s re-election was assured, jumped on board the B-Train.

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Do you need a background check to legally own pistol shrimp?

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I catch ‘em with my bare hands…wearing asbestos gloves!

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM

LOL, seriously,that’s all there is left to say. republican party will be minority for decades. A real shame.

shar61 on January 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM

It’s nice to have all those who falsely ran on Conservative principles out of the closet at last.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM

flipped over to the Senate/Cspan 2 where Biden is squeezing every woman he can….What a leech!

CoffeeLover on January 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Not usually… but maybe the collegial squishes up there have finally had enough of 0bama’s attitude.

One can only hope, True_King notwithstanding.

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Don’t fool yourself, good one. These are all eunuchs, dancing to the king, living off of you.

You can do only one thing, despise them with the utmost passion and throw them out.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Thanks for counting and keeping all informed. Apparently he didn’t need that many…Ed updated something up top…no matter, the land is full of harlots on the dole, starting with most all in DC.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:34 PM

You’re welcome. I didn’t know how many “presents”/non-votes would stick, so I had to err on the high side.

Blackburn was the first person who was called on the re-read of the roll.

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

of course here comes the Ron Paul people, his cult of personality is just and annoying and dangerous as the Obama cult. What are you guys going to do in 2016 when he doesn’t run?

ChunkyLover on January 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

I always wanted one of those six-wheeled amphibious ATVs they used to drive during the show’s intro.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 1:36 PM

me too. Who’d have thought we’d look back with fondness at the LSD induced 60′s as opposed to this nefarious gathering of blood sucking azzwipes that befoul the Land like scarabs.

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Update: Boehner wins

Not anymore elections – I’m totally done with the GOP. There’s no reason to vote for any of them. They can all go straight to hell with the Indonesian and the Dems they’ve been aiding and abetting in the class war to kill America. Screw them all.

The Crybaby Boner should be ashamed of himself for even running for the Weepership after he’s been such a abject failure. What the hell ever happened to integrity – or just the sense that people who suck at things are embarrassed to do them publicly?

This is all too pathetic. And the House “Tea Party” contingent sucks for having let this happen.

Honestly, who would want the job?

Yes … who would want one of the most important and powerful positions in American politics? What a stupid question. You love to keep asking it, though. I can’t figure out why. You present a nice example of why Boner thought himself qualified to run for Weeper again.

People these days have no shame about their stupidity and incompetence.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

426 votes:

220 Boehner (R)
192 Pelosi (R)
3 Cantor (R)
2 West (R)
2 Cooper (D)
1 Labrador (R)
1 Lewis (R)
1 Powell (D)
1 Jordan (R)
1 David Walker (R)
1 Amash (R)
1 Dingel (D)
1 Present (R)

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Oh my…the drama queens are out posting today…the sky is falling, the sky is falling…

right2bright on January 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

jb34461: “The GOP is the party of big government and low taxes”.

May I correct? The GOP is the party of big government, high taxes, sleeping with lobbyists & gushing with pork.

Hence, there really is just 1 party.

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM

I know. I listen to 60s and 70s on XM in the car, going back and forth to work, unless Ben Ferguson is talking about something worthwhile in the afternoon.

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

The whole GOP can go BLEEP themselves. What a punch of cowards.

Pelosi should be smiling since she will take back the gavel in 2014.

The Republic is no more.

RedRobin145 on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Only idiots thought the result would be otherwise.

Adjoran on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

The only ones surprised, actually believed America would vote for Rick Santorum to be President.

They’re not really into the reality thing.

Moesart on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

What were folks expecting? Congressmen to vote against Boehner….and for whom? Nobody agreed on that beforehand, did they?

Were you expecting a hodgepodge of votes for a patchwork of people who have never put forth interest in the job, followed by some spontaneous movement towards some as-yet-unnamed candidate who will come down on a cloud to lead us to the bright and shining future?

You cling to luck, when we make our own luck.

Sekhmet on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Pelosi an “(R)” now?

right2bright on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Pelosi an “(R)” now?

right2bright on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

No. “Hag” is spelled with an “h”.

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Your tin foil hat is on crooked.

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Original. Never heard the tin foil hat one before.

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Note – that 426 total does not include the single present vote from Stockman.

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Pelosi an “(R)” now?

right2bright on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Whoops – I need to proofread (or note there is really no difference anymore)

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:46 PM

me too. Who’d have thought we’d look back with fondness at the LSD induced 60′s as opposed to this nefarious gathering of blood sucking azzwipes that befoul the Land like scarabs.

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:41 PM

The sad thing is that we were kids back then, and those dropping the acid are now running the country.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 1:46 PM

What does ‘because derp’ mean in English?

Tc0061 on January 3, 2013 at 1:46 PM

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Well…if you and Dante are going to say the same ol’ garbage about Father Conklin, Jr, everytime you post, why can’t we respond in like manner?

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 1:46 PM

No. “Hag” is spelled with an “h”.

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM

FTW!

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Pelosi is permanently smiling, thanks for botox wonders.
Also, her eyes are wide open.
Only conservative left standing: Michael Savage
Of course he has no legislative powers, so I guess he doesn’t count.

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

of course here comes the Ron Paul people, his cult of personality is just and annoying and dangerous as the Obama cult. What are you guys going to do in 2016 when he doesn’t run?

ChunkyLover on January 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

The same as I did this time, vote for the most pro-liberty candidate.

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

426 votes:

220 Boehner (R)
192 Pelosi (R)
3 Cantor (R)
2 West (R)
2 Cooper (D)
1 Labrador (R)
1 Lewis (R)
1 Powell (D)
1 Jordan (R)
1 David Walker (R)
1 Amash (R)
1 Dingel (D)
1 Present (R)

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Editorial comment? ;)

Nice that West got a couple of votes.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

I know. I listen to 60s and 70s on XM in the car, going back and forth to work, unless Ben Ferguson is talking about something worthwhile in the afternoon.

kingsjester on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Yup, the music is the Best.

ToddPA on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

THE ESTABLISHMENT MISERY CONTINUES.

Man – I think Conservatives have a fetish for PAIN.

Boehner again? Seriously?

LMFAO!!

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Peter King “Boehner is a voice of reason” after lambasting him just yesterday…go to Hades King, you too…God, what a bunch of less than women run around in DC.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

For some context, may wish to consider the following:

1. The 2011 deficit deal that conservatives justifiably hate was engineered by McConnell, not Boehner. Boehner walked away from a bad deal when Obama demanded more taxes.

2. Moreoever, the entirety of what we’ve seen from the GOP leadership was done to assist the GOP nominee for president, whether that was to be Romney, Perry, or whomever… not allow Obama to benefit from a government shutdown or other drama.

3. The tax deal with Obama this week was a product of Boehner not given the tools for Plan B when his caucus refused to approve it. Obama campaigned, and won, on a promise to raise taxes on upper income earners. Elections have consequences. Period. Regrettably and to our surprise, we are NOT a center-right country any more; we are a center-left country. In fact, the GOP has lost the popular vote in 5 of the last 6 presidential elections.

4. Presumably, the GOP now has significant more leverage with both the CR and the debt ceiling about to expire. It they fight and win, they will be re-elected. If they cave again, the GOP will lose the House in 2014.

5. The Speaker is a representative of ALL House members of both parties and historically is supposed to be LESS partisan than the House majority leader.

I am not a Boehner fan, admittedly he is no Newt, but the hysteria is a bit overdone.

matthew8787 on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The whole GOP can go BLEEP themselves. What a punch of cowards.

Pelosi should be smiling since she will take back the gavel in 2014.

The Republic is no more.

RedRobin145 on January 3, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Throughout the history of our Republic there has been countless number people who said what you just said: “The Republic is no more”… And they said in times where it was even worse than now but yet they were very, very, very wrong…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

I just can’t believe that Bachmann or West didn’t pull off a coup.

There’s always next time.

Mr. Arkadin on January 3, 2013 at 1:35 PM

That is making the assumption that there will be a “next time”. That is assuming facts not in evidence. Buckle up, it is going to be a bumpy ride.

Our family changed registration to unaffiliated yesterday as soon as the County Clerk’s office opened after the holiday. There is a certain relief at not being personally associated with that group of surrender monkeys anymore.

Subotai Bahadur

Subotai Bahadur on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Editorial comment? ;)

Nice that West got a couple of votes.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

No; just a typo.

Now, if I had done “Boehner (D)”, that might be a different story :-)

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Blah..more weakness coming up..blah blah blah

sadsushi on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

LOL @ at these far-right ‘tea party’ groups that think they have any real power.

blue13326 on January 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

the sky is falling, the sky is falling…

right2bright on January 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

There is no sky. It’s just all dark.

Enjoy the scrooming, until it bleeds, painfully.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Hello Obama voter. How are you this fine day? I trust you are well?

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Throughout the history of our Republic there has been countless number people who said what you just said: “The Republic is no more”… And they said in times where it was even worse than now but yet they were very, very, very wrong…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The Republic ceased to exist under Lincoln.

Dante on January 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Boehner in House already looks teary—

CoffeeLover on January 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

matthew8787 on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Believe it or not, the McConnell-Biden deal that is now law raised taxes less than what Bo(eh)ner was more than willing to give away when he was part of the negotiations.

Nice try though.

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

I am going to put this in military terms to try to illustrate what Boehner did after the election to show that he isn’t as bad as a lot of people might believe he is:

Imagine you are a general and are fighting an enemy on three fronts. You have the tax battle, then there is the debt battle, and there is the spending battle. The tax cuts expired January 1, the debt ceiling sequestrations were due to kick in January 1, and the current budget continuing resolution is due to expire in March.

The “enemy” in this case just came off a winning campaign and has the initiative. Their morale is high and they have a propaganda edge. Boehner COULD have tried to attack on all fronts at once, pull together all three of those issues and create a single resolution to all three of those issues at the same time. Had he done that, the result would have likely been bad.

Instead, he gave some ground on one front but held the enemy far short of its claimed objective (tax cuts expire for everyone making $250K or more). In the meantime, by giving that ground, he caused the enemy to expend significant resources and delayed any action on the debt ceiling for two months. That means Boehner still gets to fight that battle on another day. There was some additional spending in the tax bill, but the overall budget continuing resolution still expires in March. That front has so far still held.

From the enemy’s point of view they gained some ground on taxes but not what they had campaigned on. They fell short. They have made NO progress on the debt ceiling and a major battle on that front is building for two months ahead. They gained a few yards of ground on spending, but the big fight there is still ahead there, too, with something having to be done in March.

Boehner actually did pretty well in cutting his losses in a time fresh off of a winning campaign when the opposition has the upper hand. The biggest issues are still intact. The Democrats are now going to have a major fight on their hands in two months time.

crosspatch on January 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

of course here comes the Ron Paul people, his cult of personality is just and annoying and dangerous as the Obama cult. What are you guys going to do in 2016 when he doesn’t run?

ChunkyLover on January 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Yes, liberty is certainly dangerous to a statist.

Dante on January 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

No; just a typo.

Now, if I had done “Boehner (D)”, that might be a different story :-)

Steve Eggleston on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Yes, good point! ;)

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

LOL @ at these far-right ‘tea party’ groups that think they have any real power.

blue13326 on January 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Sure, they brought success and Boehner in 2010.

Their power will be on display when in Jan. 2015 Pelosi takes the hammer, again, with great verve and conviction.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Update: Boehner wins
Not anymore elections – I’m totally done with the GOP. There’s no reason to vote for any of them. They can all go straight to hell with the Indonesian and the Dems they’ve been aiding and abetting in the class war to kill America. Screw them all.

The Crybaby Boner should be ashamed of himself for even running for the Weepership after he’s been such a abject failure. What the hell ever happened to integrity – or just the sense that people who suck at things are embarrassed to do them publicly?

This is all too pathetic. And the House “Tea Party” contingent sucks for having let this happen.

Honestly, who would want the job?
Yes … who would want one of the most important and powerful positions in American politics? What a stupid question. You love to keep asking it, though. I can’t figure out why. You present a nice example of why Boner thought himself qualified to run for Weeper again.

People these days have no shame about their stupidity and incompetence.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Would “ThePrimordialOrderedPair” be the Savior of the Republic?… Let us all praise and glorify him… His internet bravado is so impressive… “ThePrimordialOrderedPair” a tough internet General…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM

The tax cheat is tired of robbing the treasury. He’s cutting out. Probably to become a lobbyist & rake in even more dough.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-03/geithner-said-to-plan-departure-before-debt-ceiling-deal.html

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Geez.. Palace coups work better if there are actual leaders.

Illinidiva on January 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM

In a way it is good that Boehner won… This stupid public infighting among Republicans must stop and electing him shows at least the official party is united… Now for the screamers on the internet that is a different story…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM

United in defeat….how touching.

You know I never viewed this as a Rhino vs. Tea Party thing, that was not my objections to Boehner, my objection is the guy is not leadership material and is a born loser. But it is clear the GOP likes being led by losers and stiffs. This is why they wanted Bush over Reagan and Newt, despite his faults, got kicked out.

The GOP likes wussy men more than the Democrats do. That is how far the party has fallen. Polosi, bat shit crazy as she is, is more of a man than Boehner is. Obama and Reid are going to destroy Boehner and his marry band of beta-men over and over again. Quick someone put out a emergency broadcast….Alpha men wanted for GOP. I don;t care if they are Tea party or Rhinos at this point…just some Alpha Republicans. Someone who at least wants to punk Obama just for personal pride sake, personal ego…anything….help!

William Eaton on January 3, 2013 at 1:52 PM

As usual, the CINOs are whining. Lol.

tommy71 on January 3, 2013 at 1:33 PM

RINOs still need change the party platform, but that’s all there’s left to do. Moderates/liberals have taken over the GOP and marginalized conservative principles on taxes, job creators, debt, traditional marriage, freedom of religion, social issues…pretty much everything.

Once RINOs change the GOP platform, they can start calling themselves R-I-N and call conservatives Republican-In-Name-Only.

sauldalinsky on January 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM

You mocked Ron Paul, as I recall.

Dante on January 3, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Yes, because for every time Ron Paul makes sense, he’s insane three times.

Washington Nearsider on January 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM

And they said in times where it was even worse than now but yet they were very, very, very wrong…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

There were no times worse than now, retard. America has NEVER had an America-hater running the Executive, and one who was excused from all law, at that. In fact, there haven’t been many nations in all of history that have had people who hate them running the nations – and certainly NONE that have ever voted such an idiot in.

You’re too dumb to understand what position this country is in. You probably think it’s just peachy keen that empathy has been officially declared as a legitimate main criterion for a judge or judicial decision – in direct opposition to over three millenia of history of Western jurisprudence. You probably think that Benedict Roberts was just peachy keen in mangling English, the Constitution, and common sense with his declaration that the feral government can tax inaction and can tax for whatever reason it wants. You probably think it’s peachy keen to have an Indonesian America-hating Retard fundamentally deforming this nation while the GO sits on the sidelines and just cheers.

You are an idiot. But, you’ve been an idiot for a very long time … Enjoy your servitude, schmuck.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The republic is way past her time…lived longer than any other in history. There is always a first. What your kids will inherit after Obama/Reid/Pelosi/Boehner/McConnell will be done with, will not resemble what you have known.

Portugal and Argentina also ‘live’. So does Venezuela and Cuba.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Obama doesn’t have to destroy the GOP. It’s already committing slow suicide.

The only way the Pubs will get the point is if the Conservatives out here beyond the Beltway drop membership en masse and get behind a party better to our liking. Then convince newly-addled Pubs to join us, after Boehner&Co. pull more Dem-Lite stunts that finally cheese them off. Oh–and our money goes with us.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM

LOL @ at these far-right ‘tea party’ groups that think they have any real power.

blue13326 on January 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

Communist scum… You are confsuing internet macho guys who attack the GOP 24/7 and you see them on Hotair and other forums with the real tea party movement…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Geithner to Step Down End of January — Before Debt Ceiling Deal!

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Wow….thanks RWM!

CoffeeLover on January 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM

LOL @ at these far-right ‘tea party’ groups that think they have any real power.

blue13326 on January 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

TRUE. No money to any of these politicians.

And Freedom Works?……the group that paid DICK ARMEY $8 MILLION?

Sorry but if you belong to FWorks…….you helped to pay off the barnacle Armey.

(and as far as the sky is falling?…..only if you’re concerned about the future of individual liberty and freedom).

Otherwise it’s all dandy. Latch on.

PappyD61 on January 3, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Bet bho is laughing his forked tongue lying fool head at this news? bho has boehner by the..you know and he knows it!
L

letget on January 3, 2013 at 1:55 PM

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Don’t know who’s been more disappointing through out this whole thing……King?, the abstainees, or the ones who voted for the cliff deal to begin with and are now back tracking, rationalizing and coming up with all kinds of excuses to keep in good graces with “the base”?

Speaking of the base, listening to the radio today, I think we’ve been called “purists” 50 times all ready. Is that what we are now?

tencole on January 3, 2013 at 1:56 PM

I told you so…

Genuine on January 3, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Would “ThePrimordialOrderedPair” be the Savior of the Republic?…

mnjg on January 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Probably not, but worms like you are surely the death of it.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on January 3, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Obama exempted Google from the higher taxes and just a day later this.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 1:57 PM

What with the hysteria here? Its not like there was any lined up and wanting the job of the Speakership, so it would make since that Boehner would win. Yet certain jackwagons are bemoaning this as the end of the world and such.

eva3071 on January 3, 2013 at 1:57 PM

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