Open thread: House Speaker vote; Update: Boehner wins

posted at 12:11 pm on January 3, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Under normal circumstances, the vote for Speaker of the House would be a footnote to the opening day of a new Congressional session — but these aren’t normal circumstances.  There has been some grassroots effort to unseat John Boehner in today’s vote, or at least to pressure him into some concessions to conservatives who have felt rejected over the fiscal-cliff negotiations.  It may take as few as 17 dissident Republicans to force Boehner to campaign for his seat:

Rep. John Boehner is running unopposed to keep his job as House speaker for a second term, but the Ohio Republican’s reelection bid – the first vote of the 113th Congress, which convenes on Thursday – is nonetheless a churn of rumor and controversy.

It would take just 17 GOP dissenters to force a second ballot in Thursday’s 12:45 p.m. voice vote and force, perhaps, Boehner to withdraw his candidacy for reelection as speaker.

“It’s not going to happen,” says Michael Steel, a spokesman for Mr. Boehner, responding to such reports in an e-mail.

Here’s the rub: while there has been considerable dissatisfaction over the way Boehner has handled his job, there hasn’t been any public challenge to his speakership.  No one has publicly declared him/herself a candidate for the job.  Nor has anyone demonstrated any real inclination to take it, either by word or deed, as Ben Howe commented earlier on Twitter:

Erick Erickson noted the problem of “who else” after hearing from sources on Capitol Hill:

Jim Antle isn’t seeing any options, without Majority Leader Eric Cantor challenging:

Honestly, who would want the job?  They’d have a weak hand in every negotiation, and would have to somehow corral the entire fractious caucus to get anything done. The obvious choice would be Cantor, but he owes his House Majority Leader position to Boehner and hasn’t expressed any interest at all in the job.  No one else would be likely to get the votes.

I’d guess that we may see two or three ballots on the question, just to press Boehner into a hard commitment to force normal order in the 113th, a pledge he renewed this week.  Unless a leader rises to represent the dissenters, though, the vote will eventually go Boehner’s way.

Update: If there was going to be a serious challenge, one could expect the momentum to come from the conservative Republican Study Committee.  As our colleague Guy Benson noted, though, it sounds as though they’ve achieved some accommodation with Boehner:

Update: “No further nominations” other than Boehner or Nancy Pelosi. Pretty sure any abstentions will be minimal at this point.

Update: Justin Amash, who lost his committee assignment in a round of whip-cracking by Boehner after the election, voted for … Raul Labrador.

Update: Cantor received a protest vote from a freshman Republican, but wasn’t too happy about it:

Cantor voted for Boehner, apparently, although there was some confusion as to whether he responded at all.

Update: It’s not just Republicans casting protest votes:

Derp!

Update: We’re more than a third of the way through, and so far only 6 protest votes from Republicans, but Tim Huelskamp also got revenge for his committee punishment:

But …

Update: At the halfway mark,it’s looking like Boehner may have to sweat out a first-ballot win:

Update: Interestingly, both Price and Schweikert — who have openly opposed Boehner of late — voted to make him Speaker.

Update: As I suspected, Boehner won on the first ballot, and managed to do better than the bare-majority 218, too. Not that Boehner actually needed 218 votes to win — he only needed a majority of votes cast for any candidate, as the Congressional Research Service explained a year ago in a report, emphasis mine:

Each new House elects a Speaker by roll call vote when it first convenes. Customarily, the conference of each major party nominates a candidate whose name is placed in nomination. Members normally vote for the candidate of their own party conference, but may vote for any individual, whether nominated or not. To be elected, a candidate must receive an absolute majority of all the votes cast for individuals. This number may be less than a majority (now 218) of the full membership of the House, because of vacancies, absentees, or members voting “present.”

It appears that Boehner had about a 20-vote cushion after accounting for various protest votes, so in effect it wasn’t even really close.

Update: Today’s biggest loser?

A conservative group aiming to oust John Boehner as speaker of the House said on Wednesday that they have commitments from enough Republicans in Congress to deliver the political surprise of the year and deny the Ohio Republican another two years with the speaker’s gavel.

“I have confirmed with a group of congressmen that Speaker Boehner will not be elected speaker tomorrow,” Ron Meyer of the group American Majority Action wrote in an email Wednesday evening. “He will either resign or be forced out tomorrow.”

In a phone interview with The Daily Caller, Meyer said “more than 20” Republicans have told his group they won’t vote for Boehner during elections Thursday. American Majority Action is a conservative organization based in Virginia that is active in the tea party movement. It is run by Ned Ryun, the son of former Republican Rep. Jim Ryun of Kansas.

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If Boehner was a man, he would pass a budget with no funding for Obamacare included and adjourn. Hold a press conference saying that the House has executed its Constitutional and moral responsibility for the American people and that it is up to The Senate and President to do their jobs.

Then every member goes back to their districts and spends the rest of the year arguing their case.

Then the Republicans in the Senate should filibuster all activity until an up or down vote on that budget is taken.

Rinse and repeat until the American people either fire them or fire the Dems.

A guy can dream…

Malachi45 on January 3, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Agree with this 100% only I would not include funding for many more things other than Obamacare.

air_up_there on January 3, 2013 at 6:19 PM

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I’m not going ANYWHERE.
Fight!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 3, 2013 at 6:46 PM

No matter what you say, forever more, you will have always been one of the people that enabled the path to totalitarian governance. Nothing will ever excuse or change that.

Malachi45 on January 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM

The GOP has long been enabling in its implementation. Why do they get a pass?

The GOP will betray you

True_King on January 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Bold, fresh leadership. Did he cry?

SouthernGent on January 3, 2013 at 6:58 PM

o/t: Report: Hagel Worked to Shut Down USO Port in Haifa, Israel

Former senator Chuck Hagel, said to be on the short list to succeed Leon Panetta as secretary of defense, reportedly tried to shut down a USO port in the Israeli city of Haifa when he served as CEO of the USO. The Washington Free Beacon reports:

“He said to me, ‘Let the Jews pay for it’,” said Marsha Halteman, director for military and law enforcement programs at the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA), which led the battle to keep USO Haifa operational.

Hagel’s campaign to close the storied USO port struck many observers, including the U.S. Navy and congressional leaders, as misguided. Those same critics argue today that Hagel’s animosity toward the Jewish state leaves him unsuited to be the nation’s next defense secretary.

“He essentially told us that if we wanted to keep the USO [in Haifa] open—and when I say ‘we’, he meant ‘the Jews’—he said the Jews could pay for it,” said Halteman, who recalled being taken aback by the comment.

“I told him at the time that I found his comments to be anti-Semitic,” she said. “He was playing into that dual loyalty thing.”

Hagel has been accused of anti-Semitism for charging that lawmakers on Capitol Hill are intimidated by the”Jewish lobby,” and of homophobia for remarks he made in a 1998 confirmation hearing, for which he has since apologized. Outgoing representative Barney Frank, as well as senators Tom Coburn and John Cornyn have publicly expressed their opposition to his nomination.

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM

RIP, USA.

riddick on January 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Did he cry?

Si.

Mr. Arrogant on January 3, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Since you’re such an idiot – you REMEMBER that I voted for Obama – but don’t seem to remember why I voted for him.

HondaV65

It’s not complicated. You voted for him because you support him, despite whatever convoluted reasons you tell people here.

xblade on January 3, 2013 at 7:26 PM

House Speaker Boehner: ‘American Dream is in peril .. by this anchor of debt.’ Complete remarks – @SpeakerBoehner

4 hours ago from http://www.speaker.gov by editor
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FULL TEXT: Speaker Boehner Addresses the Opening Session of the 113th Congress
Jan 3 2013

WASHINGTON, DC – Following is the full text of House Speaker John Boehner’s (R-OH) address to the opening session of the 113th Congress:

Leader Pelosi, members of the House and Senate, dear family and friends, fellow countrymen:

We meet again at democracy’s great port of call. Every two years, at this hour, the Constitution brings a new order to this House. It is an interlude for reflection, a glimpse of old truths.

To our new members and their families, welcome. You are likely feeling awestruck right about now. History runs through here. And now you are among a select few to share in this privilege.

For those who are returning, who have walked these aisles before, maybe it’s time we feel awestruck again.

The way our founders envisioned it, the republic would be led by citizens who recognize that the blessing of governing ourselves requires that we give something of ourselves. Everything depended on this. So they made each other – and their successors – swear an oath of allegiance.

In a few moments, I will take this oath for the twelfth time as representative of the Eighth District of Ohio. It is word for word the same oath we all take.

Note that it makes no mention of party, faction, or title … contains no reference to agendas or platforms – only to the Constitution

The one addition we dare to make, as George Washington did at the first inaugural, is to invoke the assistance of our Heavenly Father.

This covenant makes us servants of posterity. It calls us to refuse the pull of passing interests and follow the fixed star of a more perfect union.

Put simply, we are sent here not to be something, but to do something – to do the right thing.

It’s a big job, and it comes with big challenges.

Our government has built up too much debt. Our economy is not producing enough jobs. These are not separate problems.

At $16 trillion and rising, our national debt is draining free enterprise and weakening the ship of state.

The American Dream is in peril so long as its namesake is weighed down by this anchor of debt. Break its hold, and we begin to set our economy free. Jobs will come home. Confidence will come back.

We do this not just to boost GDP or reduce unemployment, but to secure for our children a future of freedom and opportunity. Nothing is more important.

As Washington wrote in his farewell address, we should not “throw upon posterity the burden which we ourselves ought to bear.”

Well, the burden is ours and so is the opportunity.

There is no substitute for the wisdom of the people. We are their servants. As Speaker, I pledge to listen and do all I can to help you carry out the oath you are about to take.

Because in our hearts, we know it is wrong to pass on this debt to our kids and grandkids. Now we have to be willing – truly willing – to make this right.

Public service was never meant to be an easy living. Extraordinary challenges demand extraordinary leadership.

So if you have come here to see your name in lights or to pass off political victory as accomplishment, you have come to the wrong place. The door is behind you.

If you have come here humbled by the opportunity to serve; if you have come here to be the determined voice of the people; if you have come here to carry the standard of leadership demanded not just by our constituents but by the times, then you have come to the right place.

There is a time to every purpose under Heaven. For the 113th Congress, it is a time to rise. When the day is over, and the verdict is read, may it be said that we well and faithfully did our duty to ensure freedom will endure and prevail.

So help us God.

http://www.speaker.gov/video/full-text-speaker-boehner-addresses-opening-session-113th-congress

canopfor on January 3, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Too much hair.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Are you sure? You’ve never seen Joe’s naked backside, have you?

Whether Biden or not … words still fail me.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:18 PM

If not Joe, maybe it was Gandhi, Juan Manuel Marquez (boxer who just whooped the overrated Manny Pacquiao’s butt), or Jim Morrison, all known imbibers?

Anti-Control on January 3, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Bachman!

sauldalinsky on January 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Nah ! How about a real conservative ! Like Jim Huntsman ! !

cableguy615 on January 3, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Since you’re such an idiot – you REMEMBER that I voted for Obama – but don’t seem to remember why I voted for him.

HondaV65

Let me refresh your memory. YOU’RE A PATHETIC MORON!!!!

theaddora on January 3, 2013 at 8:01 PM

First.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Your queen doesn’t have such a sassy spouse though.

Schadenfreude on January 3, 2013 at 4:03 PM

No, but she does have an idiot son.

bw222 on January 3, 2013 at 8:10 PM

No, but she does have an idiot son.

bw222 on January 3, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Actually, she has 3 and the first one has a lovely voice when he sings to his plants…or so I am told. :-)

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Only conservative left standing: Michael Savage?????????

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHh!!!!! *Gasp * BWAHAAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!

That old fart is no conservative! He is left of center !! And a washed up one at that !He even admits he is an “independent”.

cableguy615 on January 3, 2013 at 8:39 PM

LMFAO!!

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Honda I had a root canal this AM, reading this is taking my mind off the pain ! LOL

cableguy615 on January 3, 2013 at 8:41 PM

cableguy615 on January 3, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Prove that Michael Savage is left of center, you old washed up fart. What? Can’t do it? That’s because you’re a lying sack of %$#@.

theaddora on January 3, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Wow, cableguy615, you certainly sound like a progressive. & if you are, then indeed you would want to bash Michael Savage.

Hey, guys & girls, think this conservative will be a turncoat like the rest? One can always hope that he sticks to his principles & not swayed by money, greed, power & lobbyists.

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/01/03/cruz-sworn-in-as-texas-first-hispanic-us-senator-will-introduce-bill-to-repeal-obamacare

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 9:01 PM

You guys are handling this like moderates.

My reactionary friend thinks the whole spending mess is Obama’s way to leave this country so broke we will be Canada.

I told him we are already worse off.

IlikedAUH2O on January 3, 2013 at 9:22 PM

IlikedAUH2O : Obama is following socialist/marxist guidelines. Power corrupts; Bush stole from the treasury, was the “father” of TARP, & Obama is taking it up many notches. & there’s very little, if anything, the “little people” can do. We basically have 1 party rule, & politicians are just looking out for themselves.

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM

ChunkyLover on January 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

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Yes, liberty is certainly dangerous to a statist.

Dante on January 3, 2013 at 1:50 PM

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Godlessness is dangerous to everyone.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM

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We have a “shadow government”, Belle.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 9:32 PM

♫ Meet the Old Boss,

Same as the New Boss….♫

Will we get fooled again?

viking01 on January 3, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Yep, a third party will take too long to form. We just don’t have the time. We need to rip the Republican Party away from maggots.

VegasRick on January 3, 2013 at 6:16 PM

That is a judgment call. Right now the Institutional Republicans control the entire nominating process. If you remember, they tightened control on naming candidates at the last national convention, so the state and national committees get a veto.

Conservatives who are in congress have been marginalized and removed from any committees where they can do some good. Thus, the process to have any affect on the national level is going to have to be spending years getting people elected over the objections of those who would collaborate with the Democrats. Then, once we get them in congress, we have to fight more years as they take fire from both sides until we have enough in office to over-ride the Institutional Republicans. And note, that the Democrats will side with the Institutionals against conservatives.

With things going the way that they are, we have less than a year before the organic waste impacts the rotating airfoil economically or politically. And maybe one more election before Obama goes for it all. A new party will have the chance of drawing a few of the conservative incumbents, could handle its own nominations without being suppressed by the Republican parties, albeit it would mean petitioning onto the ballot and the coverage would be far from nationwide. And the incumbents and any new candidates could campaign on conservative issues and not be subordinate to the likes of Boehner.

Do I think that we would have that great an effect before the organic waste impacts? No, but then again with the current Republican *sarc* leadership /*sarc* and refusal to stand and fight for anything; we are going to be beaten by the Leftists like a rented mule. A real second party can at least be used as a point of organization for the Splat! moment.

There is no benefit to staying with the Republicans. There is an extremely slim chance that a new party can accomplish something to rebuild the country in the future.

YMMV

Subotai Bahadur on January 3, 2013 at 9:43 PM

I just want to once again state how pleased and relaxed I am knowing the R’s have my back. It really can’t be said too many times.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 9:45 PM

listens2glenn: sadly, you are correct. If you care to, tell me why I should ever vote again. Betrayal right before our eyes, & they don’t even care to hide it, or make excuses for it. Talking with friends & family, they’re as exasperated as I am. I saw pictures of where the King, Queen & his family are vacationing in Hawaii, millions of cost to us taxpayers.

Michael’s on radio: “Obama is next going to destroy the military. The military budget will be cut so far that we won’t be able to sustain our national defense. When we lost the media, we lost the country”.
Also talked about while Diane Feinstein wants to take away Americans guns, her husband stands to make huge profits from the sale of Current TV to Al Jazeera.

http://www.jammiewf.com/2013/the-rich-get-richer-dianne-feinsteins-husband-also-cashes-in-on-current-sale-to-al-jazeera/

Belle on January 3, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

That works too. Will have to pay very close attention to who voted for what the last few days and also for the future. Will also take at least three or four cycles. Will require patience.

kim roy on January 3, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Take the Republican Party back.

That’s the fight that must be won, first.

listens2glenn on January 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM

No amount of conservatives with guts in Congress can save the country now. The Dems have won.

fossten on January 3, 2013 at 11:59 PM

That is a judgment call. Right now the Institutional Republicans control the entire nominating process. If you remember, they tightened control on naming candidates at the last national convention, so the state and national committees get a veto.

Conservatives who are in congress have been marginalized and removed from any committees where they can do some good. Thus, the process to have any affect on the national level is going to have to be spending years getting people elected over the objections of those who would collaborate with the Democrats. Then, once we get them in congress, we have to fight more years as they take fire from both sides until we have enough in office to over-ride the Institutional Republicans. And note, that the Democrats will side with the Institutionals against conservatives.

With things going the way that they are, we have less than a year before the organic waste impacts the rotating airfoil economically or politically. And maybe one more election before Obama goes for it all. A new party will have the chance of drawing a few of the conservative incumbents, could handle its own nominations without being suppressed by the Republican parties, albeit it would mean petitioning onto the ballot and the coverage would be far from nationwide. And the incumbents and any new candidates could campaign on conservative issues and not be subordinate to the likes of Boehner.

Do I think that we would have that great an effect before the organic waste impacts? No, but then again with the current Republican *sarc* leadership /*sarc* and refusal to stand and fight for anything; we are going to be beaten by the Leftists like a rented mule. A real second party can at least be used as a point of organization for the Splat! moment.

There is no benefit to staying with the Republicans. There is an extremely slim chance that a new party can accomplish something to rebuild the country in the future.

YMMV

Subotai Bahadur on January 3, 2013 at 9:43 PM

This. Exquisitely and artfully stated.

fossten on January 4, 2013 at 12:02 AM

So, in essence – my vote for Obama was a vote to “take the poison” – because the GOP doesn’t matter and can’t save us. Let’s go off the cliff now – and let Americans see what runaway entitlements does to their livlihoods.

HondaV65 on January 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Unfortunately see, everyone, good and bad, is going to have to pay for him, because of people like you.

Remind me never to be stuck in a firefight with you on my side. You would be the one forcing everyone to “take a bullet” just because you don’t like our odds of winning.

Sterling Holobyte on January 4, 2013 at 1:02 AM

No matter what you say, forever more, you will have always been one of the people that enabled the path to totalitarian governance. Nothing will ever excuse or change that.

Malachi45 on January 3, 2013 at 5:24 PM

The GOP has long been enabling in its implementation. Why do they get a pass?

The GOP will betray you

True_King on January 3, 2013 at 6:49 PM

They don’t get a pass. Or haven’t you read the Republican bashing from the bulk of the commentariat here these past years? But if you think voting for Republicans is comparable to voting for full blown fascists like Obama, as flawed as Republicans are, then you and I have no common ground we can both call reality.

Malachi45 on January 4, 2013 at 1:26 AM

We’ve all seen what “leading from being” has done to our foreign policy.
Way to go team Obama/Hillary!
I can hardly wait to see what two more years of arse inspired leadership dumps on the rest of us, I’ll bet it’s expensive.
Boehner will always be a big steaming stinker in the septic tank called congress.

kregg on January 4, 2013 at 4:35 AM

Correction: “leading from behind”

kregg on January 4, 2013 at 4:36 AM

Seriously, who’s pulling the strings attached to these puppets? They’re obviously getting their plays called in from the sidelines.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 4, 2013 at 5:57 AM

Seriously, who’s pulling the strings attached to these puppets? They’re obviously getting their plays called in from the sidelines.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 4, 2013 at 5:57 AM

Especially if we pair their words to their actions.
Only we’re the one’s being Tebowed (not the kneel, the benching).
Third party here I come!

kregg on January 4, 2013 at 6:03 AM

My take.

kingsjester on January 4, 2013 at 6:56 AM

“A house divided against itself cannot stand” . . . In this case “house” equates to the entire country and the house of Representatives. The Republicans must first unite then proceed with a common agenda and one voice. Until that’s accomplished, nothing of any substance will accrue. This constant bickering and internal dissent will get us nothing except an endless future controlled by leftists.

rplat on January 4, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Boehner PI$$ED his fellow Republicans in the House off when 1) He negotiated with Obama BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, even though Obama is the big LYING HYPOCRITE who promised to run the ‘most transparent administration evuh’. NOTHING should be negotiated behind closed doors, ESPECIALLY anything pertaining to how our lives will be affected being negotiated by rich elitists who are exempt from the legislation they are arguing over!

The newly-elected House Members, God bless them, rebelled & challenged the good-ol’-boy/establishment-create procedures adopted over time – shocking Boehner – & caused him to lose his ‘Plan B’. Many stuck to their guns & refused to vote for the final bill, that they were handed 15 MINUTES before a vote was to be called. One new member stated that the new members have banded together to restore the PROPER procedures in the House — NO MORE BEHIND-CLOSED-DOOR NEGOTIATIONS & ANY BILL THAT IS NOT DELIVERED AT LEAST 3 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF ANY VOTE (As PROMISED by Obama, so everyone can read it/them) WILL GET A ‘NO/NAY’ VOTE FROM NOW ON! Good for them!

In the end Boehner STILL delivered a bitter pill for the GOP to swallow – a bill intended to reduce spending, pay down the deficit, & increase taxes on ‘the rich’ so the rest of us wouldn’t have to pay higher taxes. Instead, Boehner agreed to a bill that INCREASED deficit spending, ADDED $3.8 TRILLION in New Debt, got $15 Billion in spending cuts…OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, & raised taxes on 77% os ALL Americans. Boehner FAILED to negotiate anything REMOTELY to what even Obama promised – he negotiated & accepted something FAR WORSE!

If there is a bright spot to all of this, to Boehner’s behind-closed-door negotiations, it is that the kick to Boehner’s private parts Obama gave him & the scolding the rebellious new Republicans gave him when he limped back into the House has resulted in Boehner vowing to END the behind-closed-door negotiations!

easyt65 on January 4, 2013 at 8:42 AM

Also….Republicans absolutely $UCK at communicating with the American people & in using PR…and that is in LARGE PART Boehner’s fault as well! (The man is having a bad month & it is only Day 4 of the 1st month of a new year!)

The Senate passed that PORK-FILLED Monstrosity of a faux Sandy Relief bill…and the GOP then allowed them to lad the 1st political theatrical punch by using the media to attack them over refusing to vote on the bill.

WHAT BOEHNER SHOULD HAVE DONE, upon scanning the bill & finding the pork, was IMMEDIATELY just walk off the House Floor, right out of the House, & onto the House Steps to address the media…

BEFORE EVER ANNOUNCING TO THE HOUSE FLOOR THERE WOULD BE NO IMMEDIATE VOTE, Boehner should have made that announcement to / THROUGH the media:

“I just received the Hurricane Sandy Relief Bill, & I am APALLED by this parasitic bill that attempts to leech off of the misfortunes of those who have experienced such loss and tragedy! As Rahm Emmanuel once said, ‘Never let a crisis go to wast’, & that is what the Democrats in the Senate are attempting to do with this bill. They have packed this bill so full of PORK spending, for their own personal and party benefit, that the cost of that pork in this bill is a higher amount than what will be going to the victims of Hurricane Sandy! To try to use achieve personal gain at a time when these victims are still suffering is both unethical and immoral. What the Democrats have done by packing this bill with PORK is to delay much needed relief, as I can NOT, in good conscience, allow this bill in its current state to go forward. THERE WILL BE NO VOTE ON THIS DISGRACEFUL BILL…AND I PROMISE THE VICITMS OF HURRICANE SANDY THAT THE HOUSE WILL WORK AS QUICKLY AS IT CAN STRIP THE GREEDY ADDITIONS FROM THIS BILL AND PASS THE RELIEF YOU DESPERATELY DESERVE!”

Then I would have walked back into the House, told the GOP in the House to tell their Interns to order pizza, because they were going to be there as long as it took to srrip all that pork out of the bill before passing it!

easyt65 on January 4, 2013 at 8:58 AM

If you have come here humbled by the opportunity to serve; if you have come here to be the determined voice of the people; if you have come here to carry the standard of leadership demanded not just by our constituents but by the times, then you have come to the right place.

Key phrase in Boehners’ sell out your principles world.

It’s going to be a llllllllllong and frustrating 2 and 4 years for True limited government CONSERVATIVES.

Posers will be content, and call us “unreasonable” and “hysterical” and “not a team player”.


SO BE IT.

PappyD61 on January 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

FLASHBACK: When Boehner 1st won the nomination for Speaker of the Houe, he blubbered about the win & went on and on over his life story, how much he had overcome, & what it meant to him to chieve that position. As for me, I remember thinking at the time,

“Dude, It ISN’T about YOU!”

It wasn’t about HIM, & it wasn’t about the Republican Party! After 4 years of Democratic Party ‘rule’, shoving everything down the opposing majority of American peoples’ throats, it was an opportunity to RESTORE SANITY / ETHICS / MORALITY / PROPER GOVT PROCEDURES to the House! Boehner completely missed that his nomination was not supposed to be a victory for HIM but for AMERICA! Instead of restoring all of that he attempted to play THEIR Game by THEIR Rules…behind THEIR closed doors.

Boehner learned NOTHING from that last Debt Ceiling Battle, during which closed-door negotiations he – & the nation – got our @$$e$ KICKED. He arrogantly attempted to take another shot at it, again behind closed doors with Obama, and once again came out holding his sore man parts and his tail between his legs! Hopefully his ego is firmly in check now & he fully understands ‘this’ isn’t about HIM!

easyt65 on January 4, 2013 at 9:14 AM

They couldn’t find 20 CINOs, oh I mean, TrueCons to unseat the Speaker? Bwahahaha. What happened? Where are those ‘Conservative Principles’? Lol, beyond pathetic. Next time, follow the Speaker, or have the courage to throw him out. What a reactionary bunch of whiners!

tommy71 on January 4, 2013 at 12:12 PM

When top level people look down,they see only shitheads;
When the bottom level people look up,they see only assholes.

Schadenfreude on January 4, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Observation:

-The media is the problem.

-How the hell did Obama get elected in 2008 and then re-elected in 2012? If the media had done even a fraction of its job in laying out factual information about him and his record- never mind were they an actual cheerleader and propagandist for his opponent- he wouldn’t have been able to win an election for dog catcher. Hell, if the media acted toward Obama like they would have against any conservative or even liberal-leaning Republican, he would probably be jailed by now.

Think about what the media has let slide on Obama: Fast and Furious and Benghazi come to mind by virtue of their recent occurrence, but there are hundreds of other examples, as displayed in the OOTD threads. Now think about that for which the media has relentlessly excoriated conservatives and Republicans.

The same applies with issues. The media not only controls the debate but even the items that are debated. Gay marriage comes to mind as well as gun control, again because of their being recent issues. Imagine if the media laid out the actual facts about taxes, spending, the economy, etc., instead of propagandizing for one skewed viewpoint.

So we can beat our heads against the wall and engage in endless self-recrimination over the candidates that we run for office or how advocates such as the NRA present their case. And we can bemoan the “low information voters”. But they are not the fundamental problem.

The fundamental problem is the media. And until we figure a way of dealing with them, the course of events is nearly entirely in their well-organized and leftist hands.

justltl on January 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM

If the Republicans ran Jesus Christ and the Democrats ran Lucifer, JC would maybe win in a squeaker, or, more likely these days, lose- thanks to relentless propaganda by the Media.
And in the aftermath, we would end up quarreling over whether JC was man enough for the fight, rather than the fact that a completely corrupt media held sway over the voters.

Imagine if, in the aftermath of Sandy Hook, the Media focused on the real problems of a general degradation of morals and society, and the undervaluation of life, rather than focusing on stripping law abiding gun owners of their rights. What a different debate we would be having, eh? What a different outcome we would have.

So on a personal note, color me disgusted over our failure to even recognize and acknowledge the enemy within, let alone deal with them for what they are.

justltl on January 4, 2013 at 2:37 PM

My new phrase for “Que sera, sera,” in a lunatic age:

O-Pa Gangnam Styre!!!!!!!!11!!11!

cane_loader on January 4, 2013 at 2:51 PM

The fundamental problem is the media. And until we figure a way of dealing with them, the course of events is nearly entirely in their well-organized and leftist hands.

justltl on January 4, 2013 at 2:07 PM

+101001111

You are correct.

We can defeat 0bama… only to find the new media despot arise in his aftermath.

The media must be held to the spirit of the 1st Amendment, by coaxing, by legal injunction, or by force.

The cancer is identified.

The virus of the MSM has infected the country, and is must be cauterized and cured.

Otherwise,

America is over.

cane_loader on January 4, 2013 at 3:16 PM

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