California: Invasion of the job-snatchers

posted at 9:21 pm on January 3, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Ah, competition; drink it in, it always goes down smooth. If, as California maintains, businesses will not react negatively to recent increases in all sorts of taxes, the requirements of their state’s cap-and-trade program, and other upcoming regulations — not to mention the ever-present threat of California instituting even more economically soul-crushing initiatives with their new liberal supermajority — then California shouldn’t have anything to worry about, should it?

If, however, the prospect of all of these new taxes and compliance costs has businesses starting to wonder whether the disadvantages of remaining in California possibly outweigh the advantages, then they might start shopping around for different options. It looks like the Californian government has reasons to start sweating a little, from the WSJ:

Nevada is one of a growing number of states stationing full-time business recruiters in California, as the nation’s economy recovers and the competition for jobs heats up. Economic-development bureaus seek to attract business and jobs from wherever they can, but California has become a particularly attractive target lately thanks to the prospect of rising taxes and new regulations that other states think could make companies there easier to lure away—an idea disputed by California officials. …

Now, states that have traditionally staffed external business-development offices only overseas are adding manpower in the Golden State. It isn’t the only place under siege—Virginia’s Fairfax County, for example, has also opened an office in Boston to lure biotech firms—but many are zeroing in on California, betting that new policies going into effect there will begin to push more businesses and entrepreneurs out. …

Companies rarely relocate purely at a recruiter’s suggestion. But states are hoping to capture the attention of Silicon Valley venture capitalists as well as California’s large number of entrepreneurs and CEOs, and to make sure they are on the shortlist for any expansions or relocations.

Perhaps California is right; perhaps the states’ aesthetic attractions, traditional location as a tech-haven, population, and etcetera will be its saving graces — but they do seem bound and determined to test the theory, don’t they?


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The word “snatchers”..

Scary…
Indeed..

Electrongod on January 3, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Maybe California should build a wall and keep people and businesses from leaving. After all, it’s what’s good for the government that’s important.

Weight of Glory on January 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM

California deserves it, richly.

The arrogance of the all-Democrat, super-majoritarian, state government demands it.

The nation needs an object lesson in the economic desolation created by socialist, and California is it.

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 9:29 PM

This is the essence of competition and why federalism is so important.

Much as the free market keeps prices low for products and services, federalism keeps taxes and regulations low by causing states to compete for businesses and productive tax-paying citizens.

We need more, not less federalism.

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Silicon Valley companies have already started moving parts of their operations to Texas and other Western tax-haven states. Guess why? A matter of time before they expand those offices and take their HQs out of Cali. They will maintain offices in The Land of Fruits and Nuts, but just for show and regional business. Those companies have been off-shoring for years as well.

It’s all about the Benjamins. When it gets too expensive to remain competitive, bye-bye.

Philly on January 3, 2013 at 9:31 PM

My only fear is that as businesses leave, Liberal voters follow them to red states without learning why businesses left in the first place.

Perhaps we need a waiting period before allowing new state residents to vote, especially if they’re CA Libs.

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Liberals always live in their dreams.

Liberals never want to live in their realities.

When the media fails to be an alarm clock and a clear window, the only people seeing reality are the victims.

At least you can leave a state.

IlikedAUH2O on January 3, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Erica, California is a lost cause those of us that are stuck here are going to suffer the consequences greatly.If you want to look where the USA is heading especially if we lose the House in ’14 look no further than Ca.We are the blueprint for Obama and his crooks.

jeffinsjvca on January 3, 2013 at 9:33 PM

California can solve this by introducing a 90% disloyalty surcharge on EBITDA.

So you want to take that business (you didn’t build it) somewhere else? Fine comrade – pay up or your new headquarters will be in Pelican Bay.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Parts of Colorado are full of former Cali people. What a mess.

IlikedAUH2O on January 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM

they sure as heck do.

California is an exercise in self destruction.

Look at Colorado. Look at Washington. Liberalism that maybe might somehow someway might make it. Supported by the conservative states of course. Look and learn.

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Philly on January 3, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Google, and most tech companies, have lots and lots of Lefty employees. They should be encouraged to stay in CA so they can’t wreak havoc in Red states.

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM

but they do seem bound and determined to test the theory, don’t they?

We’ll see ya in bankruptcy court!

Thanks in Advance for the bailout Li’l Bammie!!

And thank you working Americans for your tax money.

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 9:35 PM

It was here on Hotgas where I read a post to the effect of:
“lets have all the conservatives in California move to a purple state and turn it red”
Not a bad idea, no?

JusDreamin on January 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

The only answer for repelling boarders Liberals.

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

My only fear is that as businesses leave, Liberal voters follow them to red states without learning why businesses left in the first place.
Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Indeed. See Oregon, Washington, and Colorado.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

HeII, I just like the word snatch.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 9:42 PM

This is the essence of competition and why federalism is so important.

Much as the free market keeps prices low for products and services, federalism keeps taxes and regulations low by causing states to compete for businesses and productive tax-paying citizens.

We need more, not less federalism.

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Agree.

visions on January 3, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Be extremely careful all you citizens of States where Californians are moving into….. you all will be worse off than the current day CA in just a few years.
Companies bring revenues to your states , but they also bring CAians .

burrata on January 3, 2013 at 9:44 PM

HeII, I just like the word snatch.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 9:42 PM

You too…

Electrongod on January 3, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Quit whining and dig into your pockets.

We’ve got homeless people here without latte’s and cellphones.

Heartless neo-cons….BAIL US OUT or I swear I’ll make your speaker cry.

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Try this Linky for the full WSJ article!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324677204578185892215898494.html

canopfor on January 3, 2013 at 9:47 PM

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Exhibit A in my opinion is North Carolina. Could they elect Jesse Helms today?

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:47 PM

My only fear is that as businesses leave, Liberal voters follow them to red states without learning why businesses left in the first place.

Perhaps we need a waiting period before allowing new state residents to vote, especially if they’re CA Libs.

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:32 PM

I share the same fear. Liberals are like locust-they destroy an area then move to a new, lush area and destroy….again and again until the whole country is a barren wasteland!

wolverinefan on January 3, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Washington, and Colorado.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

are the sh!t

Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 9:48 PM

When examining corporations and business with old ties to dark blue states (such as CA), it’s important to not look at their existing business or headquarters, but where they expand and open new offices.

More often than not it’s more profitable to keep the original main offices in place (Silicon Valley, for example) while expanding in more business-friendly states (such as Nevada) instead of CA. Uprooting the entire headquarters and all of the employees can be prohibitively expensive. Plus there are often special “tax breaks” to keep the large headquarters and employees in the blue state. I’m not sure about CA but this happens all the time here in Illinois.

visions on January 3, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Northrop Grumman moved it’s headquarters to Falls Church Va last summer. Wonder why? It’s been grear for my buisiness!

faol on January 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Heartless neo-cons….BAIL US OUT or I swear I’ll make your speaker cry.

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 9:47 PM

When I mentioned crying….
Back in 2010…

Some troll told me to shut the hell up because Boner was a football player..

Electrongod on January 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM


Well that didn’t work,screw it!!

January 2, 2013, 7:46 p.m. ET

Promising Businesses a Better Life Elsewhere
States Are Sending Recruiters to California to Lure Companies With the Prospect of Lower Taxes and Fewer Regulations
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In 2011, Replico Corp. CEO Michael Whitehead decided it was becoming too expensive to do business in California. So he made up his mind to move his logistics company’s western distribution center from Gilroy, southeast of San Jose, to somewhere with less red tape and cheaper real estate.

Soon after making inquiries about new locations, Mr. Whitehead got a call from a local business-development consultant recently hired by the state of Nevada, who calculated the amount Mr. Whitehead could save by moving there. Following several meetings with the Nevada representative, Replico relocated its Gilroy operations—and one-third of its employees—to Reno last year.

“California is not a business-friendly state,” said Mr. Whitehead. Though the decision was “hard because of the employee impact,” the staff who made the move appreciate Nevada’s lack of income tax, he said.

Nevada is one of a growing number of states stationing full-time business recruiters in California, as the nation’s economy recovers and the competition for jobs heats up. Economic-development bureaus seek to attract business and jobs from wherever they can, but California has become a particularly attractive target lately thanks to the prospect of rising taxes and new regulations that other states think could make companies there easier to lure away—an idea disputed by California officials.

California also has more business to steal. Apart from its sheer size, its job growth, in the past few years at least, has been nearly twice as fast as the rest of the country’s, as the state has emerged from a particularly steep downturn, caused in large part by a collapsing real-estate market.

Now, states that have traditionally staffed external business-development offices only overseas are adding manpower in the Golden State. It isn’t the only place under siege—Virginia’s Fairfax County, for example, has also opened an office in Boston to lure biotech firms—but many are zeroing in on California, betting that new policies going into effect there will begin to push more businesses and entrepreneurs out.

Last year, Californians voted to raise taxes on the state’s wealthiest residents. They also voted to close a tax loophole that had allowed multistate corporations to avoid paying tax based on their California sales. Meanwhile, auctions got under way in November for California’s cap-and-trade program for emissions, forcing businesses to start paying for the rights to release more than a certain amount of greenhouse gases. This year, California companies will be held responsible if the warehouses they contract with underpay employees.

Companies rarely relocate purely at a recruiter’s suggestion. But states are hoping to capture the attention of Silicon Valley venture capitalists as well as California’s large number of entrepreneurs and CEOs, and to make sure they are on the shortlist for any expansions or relocations. Arizona opened its first two domestic out-of-state offices in October—one near Los Angeles, the other in Silicon Valley. Tennessee in November posted an ad for a new government position looking for California businesses to poach. Nevada hired its own representatives in California two years ago.

Historically, few of California’s job losses have stemmed from relocation. Only 2% of jobs lost in California between 1992 and 2006 went out of state, according to a study by the Public Policy Institute of California. About 9,000 jobs—less than 1% of the state’s 18.5 million jobs—go out of state each year. That number stayed relatively consistent each year regardless of how the economy fared, says study author Jed Kolko, now chief economist at real-estate website Trulia.

“The claim that California’s business climate is forcing jobs out of the state is not supported by facts,” said Riley Ray Robbins, a spokesman for California’s Governor’s Office of Business and Economic Development, adding that he doesn’t expect recent policy changes to cost the state jobs. “The competition on our radar isn’t Tennessee—it’s Brazil.”

Recruiters say most of their work centers on companies that are expanding, not relocating altogether. Ron Frierson, a Los Angeles-based representative for Kansas, says he spends his days scouring the state for businesses that may want to open out-of-state plants, warehouses or data centers. Doug Kiggins, one of Arizona’s two new California recruiters, said he has been spending about six hours a day driving around to promote Arizona’s business-friendly climate.

Pat Dinon, formerly a Long Beach, Calif., shipping-company president now recruiting for Georgia, says most of the job is “cloak-and-dagger.” For privacy’s sake, he takes some of his meetings in the Pacific Ocean, inviting executives and brokers to surf with him at San Onofre State Beach, north of San Diego.

“When you have a prospect that’s interested in doing something outside California, they don’t want it out,” says Mr. Dinon. “It may cost jobs, and it may create a lot of nervous people.”
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324677204578185892215898494.html

canopfor on January 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM

HeII, I just like the word snatch.

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 9:42 PM

Heh heh heh heh. You said “Snatch”. Heheheheh
/Bevis

bofh on January 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM

hey will maintain offices in The Land of Fruits, FLAKES, and Nuts, but just for show and regional business. Those companies have been off-shoring for years as well.

Philly on January 3, 2013 at 9:31 PM

:-)

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Exhibit A in my opinion is North Carolina. Could they elect Jesse Helms today?

Charlemagne on January 3, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Helms no. Ventura, yes.

Washington, and Colorado.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

are the sh!t
Slade73 on January 3, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Yes but they smell of sulfur and Michael Medved.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Oh yeah, Rick Perry has been poaching CA companies for years.

With the new laws and the Dems completely in charge, there should plenty for everyone to take, so dive in and get what you can.

juliesa on January 3, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Some troll told me to shut the hell up because Boner was a football player..

Electrongod on January 3, 2013 at 9:51 PM

lol…I’ve seen him play WITH his balls (every time he faces obama).

Now give us your money…we’ve got snail-darters and kangaroo-rats to save.

H8r

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Indeed. See Oregon, Washington, and Colorado.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 9:36 PM

See North Carolina, Virginia, Florida and New Hampshire on the East Coast.

Liberals ruin states, move to escape these ruined states, and then ruin Red States.

sentinelrules on January 3, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Erika, you didn’t mention the likelihood that the Dem Legislative supermajority (necessary to raise taxes) and the Dem un-Governor will likely — they’re already talking about it — repeal parts, if not all, of Prop. 13 … resulting in property taxes on homeowners and businesses skyrocketing.

That’ll be the last straw for me and my wife; we’re already planning on leaving in 2013 in anticipation of that happening — looking at Southern UT and Northern AZ area.

[After researching and collecting lots of data from all states and most counties, my wife decided to build a website (http://www.leavingcalifornia.net) with filtering criteria to access the growing database; if anyone’s looking to relocate from any state, it can be a useful tool to help narrow down choices based on those things that matter most to you.]

ShainS on January 3, 2013 at 9:58 PM

They’re — tekkin our jobs?

Axe on January 3, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I wish I had a company that sold brains, I could move IN to California and make a killing.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Axe on January 3, 2013 at 9:59 PM

goobacks from the future?

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 10:01 PM

goobacks from the future?

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Only one thing to do . . .

:)

Axe on January 3, 2013 at 10:02 PM

The State will crumble to dust before the failed ideology of liberalism is blamed…

Seven Percent Solution on January 3, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Axe on January 3, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Hey, been waiting for you. I found a pic of St Basil’s for you to use in your upcoming — and absolutely fabulous, dahlink! — piece on Dostoyevsky:

Je t’aime Bacon! The Bacon Eiffel Tower…and More Foodie Fabus (w/St. Basil’s Gingerbread Cathedral)

XOXO!

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 10:06 PM

…as the nation’s economy recovers and the competition for jobs heats up.

On what planet is this taking place? I’ve seen nothing but reports of layoffs, companies folding, being liquidated and struggling to survive, amidst four years of 8% unemployment, more regulations, more taxes and the forthcoming obamacare.

BruthaMan on January 3, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I wish I had a company that sold brains, I could move IN to California and make a killing.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 10:00 PM

No problem…we’ll just tax the sh!t out of ‘em!

BTW….If I had a brain…I’m fairly sure that I’d be insulted by your statement (I’m still, however, looking up several words)…

Thank God I live in Cali…lol

Now give me something for free.

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Je t’aime Bacon! The Bacon Eiffel Tower…and More Foodie Fabus (w/St. Basil’s Gingerbread Cathedral)

XOXO!

Resist We Much on January 3, 2013 at 10:06 PM

:)

Axe on January 3, 2013 at 10:14 PM

ShainS on January 3, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Prop 13 repeal as well as Prop 30 were the 2 reasons which made me get rid of almost all my rental /commercial properties by
Dec 2012. I feel sorry ( well not really) for those idiots who took out loans to buy me out ,
dreaming of a prosperous future :( IN CA

burrata on January 3, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Parts of Colorado are full of former Cali people. What a mess.
IlikedAUH2O on January 3, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Yup. And they’re ruining the state. A buddy of mine who works for the Denver post said about 60% of the employees are from California or Chicago. All of them a bunch of left wing hacks.

jawkneemusic on January 3, 2013 at 10:14 PM

The Democratic idiots in Sacramento are doing to business what they’ve already done to farmers in the central valley. Yeah, they’ve saved the delta smelt, and laid waste to productive farm land.

GarandFan on January 3, 2013 at 10:31 PM

As long as the libs don’t take their parasites with them from a numbers perspective it is very unlikely that they will turn a purple state blue or a red state blue. I see the parasitic class as moving to more blue states to take advantage of the welfare benefits when California is hit by the red ink typhoon and implodes. Kind of an inadvertent Cloward-Piven strategy except unless the Feds bail out the blue states it is doomed to fail.

nokarmahere on January 3, 2013 at 10:52 PM

I love how all these stories say “as the economy improves” like there is any evidence that is happening.

ellesar04 on January 3, 2013 at 11:11 PM

California: Invasion of the job crotch-snatchers

KOOLAID2 on January 3, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Bmore on January 3, 2013 at 9:42 PM

lol, you be very bad man.

arnold ziffel on January 3, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Philly on January 3, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Well – that’s not fully true. I have worked in the technology business all my life, in both Austin, Texas and the Bay area (Silicon Valley), and here’s what I finally concluded about their respective appeals. Austin attracts a lot of centers for relatively established tech businesses (with relatively lower margin but higher volume) which need to scale up on employees who will stick around – so the pro-business tax laws in Texas are helpful for them. On the other hand, Bay Area tends to attract a large number of entrepreneurs and tech venture capitalists – and therefore higher risk, higher reward businesses, whose employees will move around whenever another startup seems more alluring. The business models are somewhat different.

peter_griffin on January 4, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Now, the idiots are in charge, fully in charge, with no GOP interference what.so.ever.

Consider the possibilities.

Speakup on January 4, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Tahoe is now a suburb of CA. Along with their bizarre liberal beliefs, which they ran from and yet insist upon infesting everyone elsewhere , like a Muslim fleeing Pakistan or Iraq, they bring in millions of dollars. Fortunately virtually everything is cheaper in Nevada, so these diseased pussheads do not have to cross the line to shop. They do so merely to meet with lawyers and to hobnob with their ilk.

pat on January 4, 2013 at 12:59 AM

I use the exodus of business and rich people as the perfect example of Hayek’s Road to Serfdom. Planned economies ALWAYS end in totalitarianism. Ca will have to either relend in its socialist anti-business ways or it will be forced to keep people from leaving.

oddjob1138 on January 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM

Ca will have to either relend in its socialist anti-business ways or it will be forced to keep people from leaving.

oddjob1138 on January 4, 2013 at 1:44 AM

There is already serious talk of an exit tax.

pat on January 4, 2013 at 1:54 AM

There is already serious talk of an exit tax.

pat on January 4, 2013 at 1:54 AM

There’s a reason that the borders of Communist countries were open for entry, but closed for exit. With all the talk about taxing “the rich”, it’s coming.

Wanderlust on January 4, 2013 at 3:01 AM

This is liberals’ perfect opportunity to prove conservatives wrong. If California turns a corner now and starts to become prosperous then I will tip my hat to liberals and say you were correct. Chances of that actually happening are about 2%.

The Notorious G.O.P on January 4, 2013 at 3:23 AM

Californian’s and noreaster’s are like a fungus, they proliferate when given the right
environment. They have ruined western WA state and are well on their way to replicating in CO and NV. I hate people from California.

Mr. Arrogant on January 4, 2013 at 7:56 AM

On what planet is this taking place? I’ve seen nothing but reports of layoffs, companies folding, being liquidated and struggling to survive, amidst four years of 8% unemployment, more regulations, more taxes and the forthcoming obamacare.

BruthaMan on January 3, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Four years of 15% or higher unemployment. In reality it’s been over 20% since 2008, but what the heck, let’s pretend we have a recovery going on.

The BEA has been falsifying the GDP for quite a while, and very few are speaking up about it.

dogsoldier on January 4, 2013 at 8:03 AM

Let’s face it without the PC garbage. Lot’s of places are liberal (like Washington State) without driving out businesses. This is nothing more than White flight. As California government is taken away from Peter and given over to Pedro, CEO’s leave. It is true that Unions drive out businesses (Boeing) and Liberals injure and destroy businesses (Spotted Owl, Alar Scare) but long term structural flight is incompatible population driven.

Look at Detroit, once the “Paris of the West” (100 years ago) and in terms of manufacturing, “the Arsenal of Democracy” (50 Years ago) Detroit is now the “Mogadishu” of the West and manufactures nothing, with over half of its population illiterate and over 80% of its graduating High School class unable to read. A few miles away, nearly all White Pittsburgh is doing fine, attracting businesses and building a communities.

To really destroy a State you have to look at the demographics, a California has been in the White replacement business for a long time.

La Raza!

Bulletchaser on January 4, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Bulletchaser on January 4, 2013 at 8:21 AM

One of the biggest falsehoods that’s going to come crashing down around our ears is the liberal myth that every person of every race and of either sex is perfectly interchangeable. This has gone on for so long that one man made an entire ‘historical’ movie (Guns, Germs, & Steel) to try to explain how certain peoples had more ‘cargo’ (stuff)…without seriously examining the values or behavior of said people. And he did it all because he basically felt guilty.

Now that doesn’t mean we should think about, say, restarting slavery. We have mechanical ‘labor’ now that is way more productive and doesn’t fantasize about murdering you in your bed.

But it does mean we are going to have to take a very hard look at who should get to vote, and when, and for what. Because folks, we are LIVING in the consequences of letting anyone vote for anything. I dare you to tell me it hasn’t been a complete disaster.

MelonCollie on January 4, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Thought this post was going to be about people crossing borders trying to escape an oppressive government and make a better life for themselves. . . . .

Oh, Wait!

TimBuk3 on January 4, 2013 at 10:25 AM

More often than not it’s more profitable to keep the original main offices in place (Silicon Valley, for example) while expanding in more business-friendly states (such as Nevada) instead of CA. Uprooting the entire headquarters and all of the employees can be prohibitively expensive. Plus there are often special “tax breaks” to keep the large headquarters and employees in the blue state. I’m not sure about CA but this happens all the time here in Illinois.

True enough, but CA is now upset that CA corporations are making money out-of-state that CA cannot collect taxes on. So CA now wants to tax out-of-state earnings for CA corporations. Corporations may retain existing corporate offices, but headquarters will move and they will abandon their status as CA corporations, registering instead as foreign corporations which can be taxed only on earnings in CA. Then CA will decide to tax all their earnings as well, and the corporations will leave entirely.

And one more thought: the states that want the corporations to relocate will be more than happy to pay the associated costs, including new office and manufacturing facilities.

The libs have killed the golden goose, now they want to kill the golden gosling.

UnrepentantCurmudgeon on January 4, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Californian’s and noreaster’s are like a fungus, they proliferate when given the right
environment. They have ruined western WA state and are well on their way to replicating in CO and NV. I hate people from California.

Mr. Arrogant on January 4, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Hey, some of us Californian’s are on your side. Albeit only about 35%. The wife and I will be joining our oldest daughter and grand kids in Texas when she retires in two years. The state that I loved so much has been sullied beyond imagination by selfish and rapacious leftists. Hopefully we get out before any kind of exit tax is instituted.

skeneogden on January 4, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Be extremely careful all you citizens of States where Californians are moving into….. you all will be worse off than the current day CA in just a few years.
Companies bring revenues to your states , but they also bring CAians .

burrata on January 3, 2013 at 9:44 PM

this has always made me laugh as a Californian. My ancestors came here 160 years ago, built up a prosperous state and economy, but unfortunately our population doubled every 20 years for a century since 1880. Our state was fine until butt loads of New Englanders came out and changed our voting demographics. so finally when the good Californians decide to leave we get hell. the rest of you guys are hypercrits for trashing us good ones with the bad. and remember my state had more votes for Bush than many other states have total population. we may be outnumbered here, but that’s in part due to all the east coast and Midwest fools coming west for the last 100 years.
get a life. at least we Californians speak English, tend to bring wealth with us and have productive skills helpful for the community. Compare that with what us Californians have had to put up with our immigrants, so stop crying and get over yourselves.

19thgenamerican on January 4, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Maybe it’s time to look at the businesses that are being affected and start new companies to compete with them. They can surely undercut them on pricing, knowing that the existing companies will have to pass on these new “costs” to their customers.

djaymick on January 4, 2013 at 3:23 PM