Big jump in December background checks for firearm purchases

posted at 10:31 am on January 3, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

All of the talk in December about pursuing gun-control legislation had a big impact on the firearms industry — only perhaps not the impact intended by gun-control advocates.  The FBI reported yesterday that background checks for firearms purchases rose 40% over November to 2.8 million, almost a million more than the previous December:

The FBI reported a record-high number of background checks for firearms purchases in the month of December, in the wake of the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

According to a report from the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System out Wednesday, there were about 2.8 million background checks on those seeking to purchase firearms last month. That total was 2 million the previous month, and 1.9 million in December of 2011, news accounts noted.

Fox pointed out that this was a 49% increase from last December, which means that this wasn’t a Christmas retail season issue.  People got motivated to buy themselves a firearm, and it’s not difficult to figure out why.  The proposals on the table for gun control would necessarily grandfather existing firearms owned, and gun owners want to make sure they beat the deadline — just in case.

Take a look at the FBI stats in the report, too.  Some of the states with the biggest numbers of background checks come as no surprise: Texas and Kentucky, for example, are big gun-rights states.  Some others are more surprising, though, and point out the political risk for politicians attempting to pursue gun control.  Illinois makes it nearly impossible to carry a gun and nearly as difficult to own one, but requests for background checks jumped 22% to over 112,000.  There are few states as liberal as California these days, but background checks increased more than 32% to 150,805 in December.  Florida is a swing state, and saw background requests jump 52% to 134,345.  Even in solidly blue Pennsylvania, bitter clingers pushed background-check requests up 33% to 133,241.

Nor does gun control seem to have the same cachet as it did a couple of weeks ago, at least not on social media.  Dylan Byers reports that interest in the subject didn’t “survive Christmas”:

On the day of the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting in Newtown, Conn., we published a chart showing the Sisyphean nature of the national gun control discussion. In the immediate aftermath of a shooting, such as the one that took place in Aurora, Colo., mentions of the term “gun control” spike in the news media. In a matter of days, that discussion all but disappears. …

Blame it on the fiscal cliff, blame it on Christmas, blame it on our ability to forget, but the national discussion about gun control has once again ebbed. Mentions of the term “gun control” on television, in newspapers, and in online media are down to pre-Sandy Hook levels, according to the Nexis database.

As Dylan notes in an update, screening out references to Piers Morgan and David Gregory makes the trend even more pronounced.  Speaking of whom, Gregory’s former colleague David Shuster wants Gregory to apologize for his magazine stunt before police take the case to its legal conclusion, and scolds Meet the Press for its silence:

None the less, Washington, D.C. police are now stuck. If they let David Gregory off without getting any acknowledgment from him that he made a mistake, police will be throwing “equal justice under the law” out the window. After all, would an African-American in Southeast D.C. who violated a gun law — and wouldn’t acknowledge it — get a break? Of course not.

And yet, each day the Gregory investigation continues, D.C. police are wasting more precious resources and time.

I appreciate that NBC counsel have apparently urged David Gregory, his staff, and all executives not to say anything while the investigation continues. But in this case, the narrow interests of a company lawyer undercut the ethical obligations of Meet the Press to journalism and the city of Washington, D.C.

There is nothing that prevents David Gregory from showing some respect to those institutions right now by saying something like, “I am sorry that my actions have caused a police investigation. My team and I will cooperate fully with D.C. police and do whatever we can to help resolve this matter.”

For now, however, David Gregory and NBC News offer only silence and “no comment.”

This is unfortunate and hypocritical. Not taking responsibility is what Gregory himself accused the Obama White House of doing in October over Benghazi. Gregory said at the time, “the buck stops with the White House and the president on these matters.”

Well, either a so-called “high-capacity magazine” is dangerous on its own, or it’s not.  And in fact, it’s only dangerous when the owner intends to use it in a dangerous manner.  That’s the reason that Gregory’s journalistic colleagues are aghast that anyone would prosecute him merely for possessing it (and brandishing it on TV) — it’s because it clearly isn’t dangerous in and of itself, not in Gregory’s hands or in the hands of any other law-abiding gun owner.  Gregory’s stunt exposed the falsity of the underlying premise of the law, which is probably what Gregory and NBC will have to argue if police bring charges against him — a somewhat ironic end to his stunt.


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you anti liberty a$$clown libtards. I just want to get another 20 or so 30 rounders.

Can’t you just cry racism about something?

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Thing about gun control…it tends to turn normally apolitical gun owners into political activists.

In hindsight the talk before Christmas seemed designed to throw out liberal red meat to get base support for the Left, coupled with some good old fashioned scapegoating. The Left seemed pretty angry that a gun-free zone didn’t work, and they needed a target for that rage so gun owners became a handy focus.

JohnTant on January 3, 2013 at 10:34 AM

No, it’s time for him to be charged and fight the charges as being unconstitutional or live up to his own beliefs and plead guilty and accept his punishment. (I believe $1,000 fine and, IIRC, 1 year in jail.)

andycanuck on January 3, 2013 at 10:35 AM

In the comments at Ace’s someone said people with no gun experience whatsoever were flooding in to buy guns that would probably be banned.

Liberals are so smart and stuff.

John the Libertarian on January 3, 2013 at 10:35 AM

One of those background checks was me.

Semmed a good idea to pick up an FNH FNX-9. Comes with three 17-round magazines. Shoots very well. Great ergonomics. No failures. Concealable.

Love living in Arizona.

Sgt Steve on January 3, 2013 at 10:36 AM

No apology needed, just conviction and doing the time for this doofus.

belad on January 3, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Yea…NBC needs to get this behind them so they can devote more coverage to the over 440 children shot in the liberal run Nirvana of gun-control known as Chicago……

Baxter Greene on January 3, 2013 at 10:43 AM

It’s a farce that the ‘investigation’ hasn’t been concluded yet.

The facts of the case are known, the evidence is not disputable, yet they are dragging their feet.

I don’t want to see the guy in jail but I’d like to see him plead out so that he can underline the stupidity of this law.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 10:43 AM

And yet, each day the Gregory investigation continues, D.C. police are wasting more precious resources and time.

What the hell is there to “investigate”. They got freaking video evidence!!!!

ButterflyDragon on January 3, 2013 at 10:43 AM

I’ve done 3 background checks (in Colorado) since the election – for buying 4 guns. The first check took 45 minutes, the second took 2 hours, the third (put in 21 Dec) took a week. Increased process time all due to the growing number of gun buyers.

Even my wife, who has never wanted a gun, now wants her own handgun and AR – just because the Dems want to tell her she can’t have them.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM

It’s too late to apologize.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3tOE_BbRmc

Night Owl on January 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM

If Gregory is indeed a man of principle, lmao, then he should gladly turn himself in, plead guilty, and serve 10 years just like the rest of us underlings would.

LaughterJones on January 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Thanks to those effers I can’t find so much as a crap-ass ProMag for any of my guns, much less the good OEM versions, it’s all just gone.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 10:50 AM

That’s the reason that Gregory’s journalistic colleagues are aghast that anyone would prosecute him merely for possessing it (and brandishing it on TV) — it’s because it clearly isn’t dangerous in and of itself, not in Gregory’s hands or in the hands of any other law-abiding gun owner

.
And yet these same people are the ones behind these very laws that make mere possession of an inanimate object illegal – and they want to implement MORE of these same laws.
The level of hypocrisy is absolutely mind-boggling.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Results for #guncontrol

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23guncontrol

canopfor on January 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Ed, just a couple points of clarification: buying a gun in Illinois isn’t that hard. Sure, it’s a more rigorous process, but for most of the state outside Chicago, it’s not a big deal. You *do* have to have a FOID card ($10 application fee), and you have to wait a day to pick up your long gun and wait 3 days for a handgun. There’s no allowance for concealed carry, though that should be changing in the next six months.

Now here’s something that’ll either boil your blood, or knock you out of your chair laughing: the Public Health committee of the Illinois state senate passed a bill outlawing pretty much every modern gun. They pretty much went “full-retard”. A few highlights:

–All guns registered ($10 fee)
–10 round limit
–no exemption for rimfires
–No transfers of grandfathered weapons unless they’re being transferred to someone outside the state or passed down after death
–Must report stolen/lost guns within 72 hours
–Must report all transfers of guns to the state
–A “one feature” definition of assault weapons (they at least picked up on thumbhole stocks this time!)
–Those without an FOID card cannot fire a weapon even at a firing range
–.50 caliber basically banned

The committee here consists of six D’s and four R’s, and the vote to pass it was 6-3. It’s not likely to pass the legislature, since the legislature has been working to allow CCW, rather than make gun laws more stringent.

Mohonri on January 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Thanks to those effers I can’t find so much as a crap-ass ProMag for any of my guns, much less the good OEM versions, it’s all just gone.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Well, you can take comfort in the fact that I don’t know what any of these things you talk about are, so you are that much further ahead than me. I have a Taurus .38 special and two boxes of bullets. I don’t know how much ammunition would be sufficient, but you make me think 2 boxes is not that number.

Night Owl on January 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Fast&Furious, Corzine, Black Panthers, Illegal wars, Immigration orders, etc…yeah, this will go somewhere.

Where’s Issa by the way?

Mr. Arrogant on January 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Guns and ammunition are about the only industries that have seen a benefit from the Obama administration. I love it!!

Deano1952 on January 3, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Gregory will see no consequences after this joke of an investigation. I still want to know from whom he got that magazine and where is it now? Far as I know, the detectives have yet to question Gregory himself.

Rather than trying to confiscate that magazine, I wouldn’t be surprised if what is really being looked into is who gets paid off and for how much.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM

canopfor on January 3, 2013 at 10:52 AM

From your link:

Marchella ‏@1Marchella

Being disarmed in the face of a tyrant is a mistake a free people only get to make once. #GunControl #tcot pic.twitter.com/EaOkLCQA

Night Owl on January 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Thanks to those effers I can’t find so much as a crap-ass ProMag for any of my guns, much less the good OEM versions, it’s all just gone.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 10:50 AM

No kiddin. EVERYTHING is backordered.
Another gun show in town this weekend – I’ll be there to see if they have anything at a reasonable price.

BTW – while other areas are doing more to ban guns (Illinois…) – we’re getting ready to open a county and Army (Fort Carson) sponsored public shooting range with multiple various distance ranges for all kinds of weapons. The range will be run by off-duty soldiers – and all proceeds go to Army MWR type support.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

In the meantime we’ve got an editorial (not letter to the editor) in the Des Moines Register that, among other things, calls for the razing of the NRA headquarters and dragging Boehner and McConnell behind a truck “until they get some sense.”

Where is the outrage for that? Last time I looked threatening a Congressional leader was a crime too.

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM

And it seems bho wants to make gun control and illegal aliens his TOP pick for Jan. to getter done? Just more krap and distraction from bho/team!
L

letget on January 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Does the Oppressive-left realize what is going on here?

Gun sales went through the roof when the dear liar was originally immaculated – those people are now out getting more to store for safekeeping.

Others were those in denial of what the O’commie wanted to do to this nation and are scrambling to catch up to the rest of us.

Finally, could it be that the Left is also arming themselves?

Firearm Sales Jump 39% In December, 19% In 2012
http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/firearm-sales-jump-39-december-19-2012

Washington D.C. saw the largest year-to-year increase with sales jumping 49.7%.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Except for Fox, our media is somewhat redolent of that present in the Third Reich and the Soviet Union.

As an East German once told me, the leaders don’t have to be good, they just have to be ahead of the people making and selling the facts.

Being ahead of the lot we have must have the left laughing every day.

Let us do a stockholder petition to have Newt or Sarah put in charge of CBS or NBC at 8 or 10 million a year.

The ratings would be there.

IlikedAUH2O on January 3, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Where is the outrage for that? Last time I looked threatening a Congressional leader was a crime too.

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Only if you disagree with the Marxist Democrat position, otherwise it protected political speech. o_O

SWalker on January 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

I don’t know how much ammunition would be sufficient, but you make me think 2 boxes is not that number.

Night Owl on January 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM

I currently have about 2000 rounds of .22, about 500 rounds of 9 mm, about 250 12 ga shells – but I can’t get my hands on ANY .223 / NATO 5.56. I’ve a backorder (3 – 6 weeks) in to Cabela’s for about 500 rounds of .223.
And I don’t think I have enough.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

I’ve given up for now. Cabelas isn’t even listing AR mags on their website, and the gun sales guys are getting pissed because they have to say “We don’t have any AR15′s and we don’t when we will be getting any more” 10,000 times a day.

I’ve turned back to bows for now. The range is nice and quiet and arrows have never been more plentiful.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

MILLER: Two systems of justice
David Gregory walks free while Iraq vet was jailed
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/1/two-systems-of-justice/

It’s been more than a week since police in Washington, D.C., opened an investigation into NBC’s David Gregory’s possession of a “high-capacity magazine” that’s prohibited in the District on on national TV. Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier’s spokesman refused Monday to respond to whether Mr. Gregory had even been interviewed yet. This is a rather curious departure for a city that has been ruthless in enforcing this particular firearms statute against law-abiding citizens who made an honest mistake.

In July, The Washington Times highlighted the plight of former Army Spc. Adam Meckler, who was arrested and jailed for having a few long-forgotten rounds of ordinary ammunition — but no gun — in his backpack in Washington. Mr. Meckler, a veteran of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, says he had no idea it was illegal to possess unregistered ammunition in the city. He violated the same section of D.C. law as Mr. Gregory allegedly did, and both offenses carry the same maximum penalty of a $1,000 fine and a year in jail.

Southern by choice22 on January 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Only if you disagree with the Marxist Democrat position, otherwise it protected political speech. o_O

SWalker on January 3, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Well, I’d love to give this guy a lesson in what he can do with his First Amendment rights. Seriously, leaving aside the violent nature of his comment, it was deliberately phrased to allude to the James Byrd death (for which the killers were convicted). The Des Moines Register is pretty damned irresponsible for printing something like this. But, as long as they are pandered to in their idiotic first-in-the-nation caucus I guess they don’t give much of a damn about anything else.

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Where is the outrage for that? Last time I looked threatening a Congressional leader was a crime too.

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:02 AM

They’re not calling for violence, no! They’re demanding justice! /

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Guns and ammunition are about the only industries that have seen a benefit from the Obama administration. I love it!!

Deano1952 on January 3, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Unfortunately, because of fiscal cliff impact on the stock market, I LOST money on Smith & Wesson stock – despite records sales and profits.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

All that gun control will achieve is a spike in mass murder by Roman candle.

The Chinese fireworks get bigger and more potent every year, at least in my neck of the woods….

cane_loader on January 3, 2013 at 11:11 AM

David Gregory will probably end up being convicted but the sentence will be immediately commuted by whichever donkey runs the D.C. these days. Since having a criminal record is probably a badge of honor among the journolickers, he won’t even petition for a full pardon.

Archivarix on January 3, 2013 at 11:12 AM

I’ve given up for now. Cabelas isn’t even listing AR mags on their website, and the gun sales guys are getting pissed because they have to say “We don’t have any AR15′s and we don’t when we will be getting any more” 10,000 times a day.
Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Our local Sportsman’s Warehouse gets a big shipment of guns and ammo every Friday morning. However, if you aren’t there in line when they open you won’t get much of anything. All ARs, magazines and .223 ammo are gone within minutes – first people in line walk out with multiple cases.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I’ve turned back to bows for now. The range is nice and quiet and arrows have never been more plentiful.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Plus, the ammunition is recoverable for future reuse.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM

He broke the law he advocates, thats not undone by an apology. Those who publicly advocate that Gregory and the likes of him are above the law should apologize to the public. But I wont hold my breath…

Valkyriepundit on January 3, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I wanted to get an AK and build a SBR, but I lollygagged two weeks too long.

You fluking libtards deserve to be disarmed and victimized. I wish I didn’t share the same political boundary as you reprobates.

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Two boxes is more than enough except for practice. Most likely any incident would not require a reload.

UncleZeb on January 3, 2013 at 11:16 AM

…and the retards down in Springfield, Illinois are advancing a bill to have a complete gun ban in this State…no grandfathering…if it passes you have to turn in your firearms to the State Police…

We will see how that works out…I mean after all the gun ban in Chicago worked out so well…we have to do it for the rest of this F#%&King State…

PatriotRider on January 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Wait a second. I thought there were no background checks. At least that’s what the left keeps telling us.

CurtZHP on January 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

I bought an AR-15 right before Christmas without a background check, because I have a CHL. So the NICS numbers don’t even account for people like me who were buying guns. The overwhelmed dealer was extremely relieved when I produced my license. The NICS was getting thrashed that week.

juliesa on January 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

I’ve given up for now. Cabelas isn’t even listing AR mags on their website, and the gun sales guys are getting pissed because they have to say “We don’t have any AR15′s and we don’t when we will be getting any more” 10,000 times a day.
Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

BTW – Brownell’s shows lots of AR mags – but all on backorder. No idea how long the backorder wait might be though.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

I bought an AR-15 right before Christmas without a background check, because I have a CHL. So the NICS numbers don’t even account for people like me who were buying guns. The overwhelmed dealer was extremely relieved when I produced my license. The NICS was getting thrashed that week.

juliesa on January 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Is that your Bushmaster that you have longingly looked at without firing it?

hmmm?

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

My rule of thumb has always been at least 2k for each weapon in reserve. It’s easy if you buy it incrementally.

Another way to stretch your ammo is to take up reloading. For example, while I have several thousand rounds in 30.06, I keep a bunch of powder, primers, and bullets so I can stretch my assembled stock at least threefold.

Unfortunately, reloading components have taken a pretty hard hit lately too, but people may still be able to find what they need if assembled rounds aren’t yet readily available.

JohnTant on January 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM

and the retards down in Springfield, Illinois are advancing a bill to have a complete gun ban in this State…no grandfathering…if it passes you have to turn in your firearms to the State Police…

We will see how that works out…I mean after all the gun ban in Chicago worked out so well…we have to do it for the rest of this F#%&King State…

PatriotRider on January 3, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Illinois Dems advance gun control bills, firearms group warns of ‘no exemptions’
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/02/illinois-dems-press-forward-with-gun-control-bills-firearms-group-warns-no/

Amid the developments, the Illinois State Rifle Association issued an “urgent alert” to its members warning them that Democratic legislators were trying to push through last-minute anti-gun legislation.

“There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering,” the group stated in its alert. “You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the state police and avoid prosecution.”

What’s the line constantly bleated from the Oppressive-Left and their BSMedia minions – don’t worry, we’re not coming for you guns…

Sure they aren’t.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Is that your Bushmaster that you have longingly looked at without firing it?
hmmm?
tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Likely.
I got a new Windham M-4 just after Christmas that I can only look at, clean, fondle…. since I can’t get any .223 ammo.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM

I currently have about 2000 rounds of .22, about 500 rounds of 9 mm, about 250 12 ga shells – but I can’t get my hands on ANY .223 / NATO 5.56. I’ve a backorder (3 – 6 weeks) in to Cabela’s for about 500 rounds of .223.
And I don’t think I have enough.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Thank you for the info. I guess I need to go shopping!

Night Owl on January 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Likely.
I got a new Windham M-4 just after Christmas that I can only look at, clean, fondle…. since I can’t get any .223 ammo.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Is anyone out trying to get their hands on a stripped lower so they can build their own?

It’s a great way of learning the ins and out of the rifle – although those lowers are so small it’s easy to lose track of them.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Likely.
I got a new Windham M-4 just after Christmas that I can only look at, clean, fondle…. since I can’t get any .223 ammo.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:23 AM

There is plenty of ammo out there hombre. Pony up. :)

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Two boxes is more than enough except for practice. Most likely any incident would not require a reload.

UncleZeb on January 3, 2013 at 11:16 AM

The only practicing I do is from 10-15′, and it turns out I’m really good at that. I hope that you are correct that any incident would not require a reload.

Night Owl on January 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Is anyone out trying to get their hands on a stripped lower so they can build their own?

It’s a great way of learning the ins and out of the rifle – although those lowers are so small it’s easy to lose track of them.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I have searched high and low on the interwebs…nothing. I imagine you will have better luck face2face or frequenting your local shop.

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Related: Bob Munden died a few days ago.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

My rule of thumb has always been at least 2k for each weapon in reserve. It’s easy if you buy it incrementally.
JohnTant on January 3, 2013 at 11:21 AM

I grab a box or 2 of whatever they have (that I use) any time I find something actually on the shelf. So I’ve been slowly building my stock. Hard to find much since there are a bunch hoarders (preppers?) around here that will grab all cases of whatever the store gets as soon as they unload the pallet. A clerk at Sportsma’s Warehouse told me he knows of a customer who has grabbed at least 500,000 rounds in the last 6 months.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

I appreciate that NBC counsel have apparently urged David Gregory, his staff, and all executives not to say anything while the investigation continues.

No Comment!

This has become a standard liberal practice set forth by the Obama administration—Benghazi or any other injustice/broken laws.

Rovin on January 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Thank you for the info. I guess I need to go shopping!

Night Owl on January 3, 2013 at 11:24 AM

And I’m looking to add more.

I’ll probably use up a good portion of that as soon as it’s warm enough on the weekend to go to the range. Last time on the range with one of my boys, we used about 300 rounds of 9 mm in a couple hours.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Is that your Bushmaster that you have longingly looked at without firing it?

hmmm?

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Indeed, that’s the very one. STILL haven’t fired it, and now it’s trying to sleet here, so maybe next week. I don’t have much ammo, so it will be a short session if I can’t find more.

There is a gun show this weekend, but I’m guessing that all the ammo and mags we need will be gone before we get there if they even have it.

juliesa on January 3, 2013 at 11:33 AM

There is plenty of ammo out there hombre. Pony up. :)

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Ya? Where? Every store and web site I go to shows .223 as backordered.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I have searched high and low on the interwebs…nothing. I imagine you will have better luck face2face or frequenting your local shop.

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Try Windham Weaponry. They have just about every part for an AR-15 available online.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM

The only primers still available are large pistol and some magnum versions.

This is getting out of hand again.

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM

They’re not calling for violence, no! They’re demanding justice! /

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 11:10 AM

The dude wants to eliminate the Second Amendment and declare the NRA a terrorist organization. So yes, as far as the left goes, it is all about “fairness.” /

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Look at the report; what the HECK is with Kentucky?? Massively outdoing everyone else?? Surely it’s some quirk in the law, possibly allowing out-of state sales far easier (if so, picking up a BUNCH from Illinois). Can anyone explain this?

michaelo on January 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Try Windham Weaponry. They have just about every part for an AR-15 available online.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:36 AM

I like it! Ban the guns but allow companies to sell “kits.”

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Minuteman Right to Keep and Bear Arms
http://www.minutemanrkba.com/1/post/2013/01/we-will-not-disarm.html

“We will NOT disarm”

They knew that when it came down to it they had to depend on themselves and their neighbors, not on some far-off government.

Anyone who thinks it is fundamentally any different now is fooling themselves.

We will NOT disarm. Our natural rights, the right of self-defense being foremost, were given to us by God Himself, and Barack Obama and Dianne Feinstein are NOT welcome to them.

“Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these: First, a right to life; Secondly, to liberty; Thirdly, to property; together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.”
- Samuel Adams

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men…”

- The Declaration of Independence

Colbyjack on January 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

I like it! Ban the guns but allow companies to sell “kits.”

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Yup – and its interesting to me that Windham is based in very blue Maine.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:41 AM

. A clerk at Sportsma’s Warehouse told me he knows of a customer who has grabbed at least 500,000 rounds in the last 6 months.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Pretty savvy – he can probably unload that for double the price he paid.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Is anyone out trying to get their hands on a stripped lower so they can build their own?

It’s a great way of learning the ins and out of the rifle – although those lowers are so small it’s easy to lose track of them.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I have searched high and low on the interwebs…nothing. I imagine you will have better luck face2face or frequenting your local shop.

tom daschle concerned on January 3, 2013 at 11:29 AM

I haven’t looked as of late…… I’m busy recycling cans and other scrap metal.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM

There are few states as liberal as California these days, but background checks increased more than 32% to 150,805 in December.

Just bought my first NEW weapon ever (all my other firearms were left to me by my father)…the state now has more personal info on me than any lender on any of my past home purchases…and the paperwork was insane.

It took 3 hours of waiting just to be afforded the privilege of making the purchase (the shop was that jammed)…and another 3 hour wait to pick it up (waiting in the line where everyone else was “picking up”)….

Obama has put more fire-arms in the hands of law-abiding California Citizens than I EVER would have imagined.

cudo’s to little Bammie….Thanks to your gun-grabbing-master-plan, I now feel safer than ever in this liberal fantasy-land.

Tim_CA on January 3, 2013 at 11:46 AM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Pretty savvy – he can probably unload that for double the price he paid.

CorporatePiggy on January 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM

What’s the joke out there.. A women is talking to her neighbor and brags they’ve stocked up 30,000 rounds.

To which her neighbor says…. Don’t worry, they’ll be plenty of time to get more.

At least that’s the way it used to be.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

If the libs get their way, what will happen to all those firms that provide armed security to Hollywood liberals like Michael Moore, Cher, and Rosie O’Donnell–and their families, too? What will become of that NY newspaper that outed holders of pistol permits in two counties which has hired armed guards to protect its offices? The execs of the paper say they are worried about the public outcry against their spiteful little action, though they made public no evidence of mass threats by any group or significant number of individuals.

What about the offices and studios of NBC, MSNBC, CNN, et. al.–will their security teams be disarmed, too?

Will any new laws allow the exemptions I listed, or will all those liberal enclaves simply claim some kind of exemption a la David Gregory&Co. though the new laws allow none?

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Colbyjack on January 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

We will NOT disarm. Our natural rights, the right of self-defense being foremost, were given to us by God Himself, and Barack Obama and Dianne Feinstein are NOT welcome to them.

Colbyjack, meet Donald Kaul of the Des Moines Register. Thought you two should meet. ;0

• Repeal the Second Amendment, the part about guns anyway. It’s badly written, confusing and more trouble than it’s worth. It offers an absolute right to gun ownership, but it puts it in the context of the need for a “well-regulated militia.” We don’t make our militia bring their own guns to battles. And surely the Founders couldn’t have envisioned weapons like those used in the Newtown shooting when they guaranteed gun rights. Owning a gun should be a privilege, not a right.

• Declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal. Hey! We did it to the Communist Party, and the NRA has led to the deaths of more of us than American Commies ever did. (I would also raze the organization’s headquarters, clear the rubble and salt the earth, but that’s optional.) Make ownership of unlicensed assault rifles a felony. If some people refused to give up their guns, that “prying the guns from their cold, dead hands” thing works for me.”

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Will any new laws allow the exemptions I listed, or will all those liberal enclaves simply claim some kind of exemption a la David Gregory&Co. though the new laws allow none?

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

A gun-hater called into local talk radio this morning. Seems his idea was that the only place you should “be allowed” (his words) to have a weapon is in your home or at the local range. You would have to hire a courier to transport your weapon from one place to the other. That was one of the more mock-worthy contributions for the morning.

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM

What’s the joke out there.. A women is talking to her neighbor and brags they’ve stocked up 30,000 rounds.
To which her neighbor says…. Don’t worry, they’ll be plenty of time to get more.
At least that’s the way it used to be.

Galt2009 on January 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Ya – as I hear it, in Texas she would be considered an unprepared amateur.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 11:48 AM

They will all be given exemptions from on high – just like the wind farms get a free pass on killing thousands of protected birds while oil companies get prosecuted for killing a couple unprotected birds.
That’s the problem with this type of tyranny – only those who are on the tyrant’s side get a free pass on everything – all others will suffer.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:58 AM

michaelo on January 3, 2013 at 11:38 AM

I just ordered a gun from budsgunshop.com which is located in Kentucky. The service and selection was excellent and even though they didn’t do a background check on my, they do have a retail store there. You’re probably right about people crossing the border from Ill.

mike_NC9 on January 3, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Liberals are quite something else, aren’t they?

Were I the host, I have asked if this imaginary courier had to be specially licensed to be in possession of and transport the weapons and ammo, and if he has to be bonded. And who would protect this courier from theft of the firearms–armed security? If so, they’re in violation of the desire of the caller to be ‘allowed’ guns only at home and at the range.

As the host, when the caller couldn’t adequately answer, I’d repeat to him the most famous line from the movie Deliverance. LOL

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:00 PM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Easy solution, then: Every gun owner suddenly starts a business providing executive security. A new booming industry, and Obama can say there were five million new business start-ups this year!

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Fear not… I think if this thing goes sideways, there will be a lot of ammo lying around just waiting to be picked up… Particularly .223, .40, and 9 mm…

PointnClick on January 3, 2013 at 12:04 PM

blockquote>Easy solution, then: Every gun owner suddenly starts a business providing executive security. A new booming industry, and Obama can say there were five million new business start-ups this year!

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM
Why not. I had a small graphic arts business on the side about 15 years ago. I didn’t make any money – but I wrote off all my computer equipment for tax purposes.
I’d be willing to do the same as a “hired gun” (who seldom or never gets hired) – then I could write off my guns and ammo as business expenses too….

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Into town road a dashing young man on great white horse and saved the day.
Arriving in Washington yesterday hours before his swearing-in, Congressman-elect Joseph P. Kennedy III said he’s ready to help lead the fight to tighten the nation’s gun laws in the wake of the tragic Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting massacre. Boston Herald

RickinNH on January 3, 2013 at 12:08 PM

As the host, when the caller couldn’t adequately answer, I’d repeat to him the most famous line from the movie Deliverance. LOL

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:00 PM

“squeal like a pig” ??

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Easy solution, then: Every gun owner suddenly starts a business providing executive security. A new booming industry, and Obama can say there were five million new business start-ups this year!

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:03 PM

But I’d bet applications for the gun exemption and business license will be compared to DNC donor lists. If you aren’t a DNC donor you can’t get the business….
That’s how it seems to work with green energy handouts.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:13 PM

it’s been more than a week since police in Washington, D.C., opened an investigation into NBC’s David Gregory’s possession of a “high-capacity magazine” that’s prohibited in the District on on national TV. Metropolitan Police Chief Cathy L. Lanier’s spokesman refused Monday to respond to whether Mr. Gregory had even been interviewed yet. This is a rather curious departure for a city that has been ruthless in enforcing this particular firearms statute against law-abiding citizens who made an honest mistake.

In July, The Washington Times highlighted the plight of former Army Spc. Adam Meckler, who was arrested and jailed for having a few long-forgotten rounds of ordinary ammunition — but no gun — in his backpack in Washington. Mr. Meckler, a veteran of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, says he had no idea it was illegal to possess unregistered ammunition in the city. He violated the same section of D.C. law as Mr. Gregory allegedly did, and both offenses carry the same maximum penalty of a $1,000 fine and a year in jail.

Mr. Meckler was charged with the crime and was forced to accept a plea deal to avoid the cost and time of a protracted legal fight.

I posted this in the headline. David Gregory knew he was violating the law since the DC police warned him in advance. He should suffer as a minimum the same punishment as Mr. Meckler.

IMHO we are no longer a nation of the law is king (LEX REX) but the king is law (REX LEX). This won’t end well.

chemman on January 3, 2013 at 12:18 PM

“squeal like a pig” ??

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Bingo! Liberals never think things through. And if they think they’re going to eventually see a massive confiscation effort, they’re crazy. Not only will there be combat in the high-crime areas of Chicago, but any people trying to go into bayou country to take the guns will never come out again.

I can’t picture special exemptions being written into law for private firms. That would be too blatant a show of favoritism that runs risk of being taken to court to show the law has ‘disparate impact’ or something; only the super-rich like in Hollywood can afford protection.

Without a new amendment to repeal the Second, liberals aren’t going to get as far as they think with their plans.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Colbyjack on January 3, 2013 at 11:40 AM

We will NOT disarm. Our natural rights, the right of self-defense being foremost, were given to us by God Himself, and Barack Obama and Dianne Feinstein are NOT welcome to them.

Colbyjack, meet Donald Kaul of the Des Moines Register. Thought you two should meet. ;0

• Repeal the Second Amendment, the part about guns anyway. It’s badly written, confusing and more trouble than it’s worth. It offers an absolute right to gun ownership, but it puts it in the context of the need for a “well-regulated militia.” We don’t make our militia bring their own guns to battles. And surely the Founders couldn’t have envisioned weapons like those used in the Newtown shooting when they guaranteed gun rights. Owning a gun should be a privilege, not a right.

• Declare the NRA a terrorist organization and make membership illegal. Hey! We did it to the Communist Party, and the NRA has led to the deaths of more of us than American Commies ever did. (I would also raze the organization’s headquarters, clear the rubble and salt the earth, but that’s optional.) Make ownership of unlicensed assault rifles a felony. If some people refused to give up their guns, that “prying the guns from their cold, dead hands” thing works for me.”

Happy Nomad on January 3, 2013 at 11:49 AM

As usual the Socialist have it all backwards.

They forget that they FIRST need to take our guns away, with all kinds of happy talk.

Then they can go out murdering the population.

Haven’t they learned anything from Mao, Hitler, Stalin and other storied Leftists?

Colbyjack on January 3, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Without a new amendment to repeal the Second, liberals aren’t going to get as far as they think with their plans.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM

I tend to agree with that – but I believe they will try.
And while they might get away with some gun grabs in places like Chicago and NY – until they get stopped by the courts, there are a lot of places it won’t even go through. As I indicated earlier, my county is sponsoring a huge new public shooting range in cooperation with the Army, and we were one of the first with a “must issue” concealed carry law. The 2nd Amendment is very strongly supported in this very red, very pro military, very pro gun portion of Colorado – and I know there are many other areas like it.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:31 PM

I can’t picture special exemptions being written into law for private firms. That would be too blatant a show of favoritism that runs risk of being taken to court to show the law has ‘disparate impact’ or something; only the super-rich like in Hollywood can afford protection.
Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Actually, I CAN see them trying to do that. Lokk at the laws they’ve been writing – tons of exemptions and special favors for their cronies. Look at the pork in the Sandy bill. The problem is there aren’t enough people or organizations any more who are willing to spend the time and money to fight those things in court – so they get away with it. That’s what concerns me the most. Look at chemman’s posts – “equal protection” is already gone.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:34 PM

You have good points and, sadly, might well be all too right.

However, there are some magazines out there that teach people how to make a safe stash without risk of the gun getting rusty even after years. The stash can be made at home with common things easily found in hardware and plumbing stores.

Smug gun-grabbing liberals aren’t as smart as they think they are.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Democrats ready gun-control legislation that would ban high-capacity magazines
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/275401-democrats-ready-gun-control-bills-for-new-congress

Colbyjack on January 3, 2013 at 12:45 PM

I’ve given up for now. Cabelas isn’t even listing AR mags on their website…

Bishop on January 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

You might want to try The Mako Group (http://www.themakogroup.com/). Looks like they’ve got a pretty good supply line on AR 30-round mags manufactured in, and imported from, Israel, a country that is realistic about the need for these. You could also take satisfaction that in some indirect way you were probably helping fund opposition to the Pallies.

WhatSlushfund on January 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Smug gun-grabbing liberals aren’t as smart as they think they are.

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 12:41 PM

THAT is an absolute truth.
Even if they succeed in banning the commercial sale of 30 round magazines – the libtards don’t seem to have a clue that a machinist with some basic equipment can make his own very cheaply and easily. Shoot – it’s nothing more than some bent sheet metal with a shaped follower and a spring. They have no idea what kind of black market can and will quickly spring up for these things.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM

You might want to try The Mako Group (http://www.themakogroup.com/).
WhatSlushfund on January 3, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Great referral – thanks!!
Just went there and ordered 5 30 round mags. Should ship within 10 days according to the site.
If the mags show up, and my credit card doesn’t get compromised, I’ll be going back to them a lot more.

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Another million new business start ups!

Liam on January 3, 2013 at 1:14 PM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 1:06 PM

The other day I bought an angled foregrip from them (it was my first order from them) but everything seems legit so far. They sent me a personal email thanking me for the order, and, according to UPS via the tracking number, it should be in my mailbox tomorrow. Can’t wait.

WhatSlushfund on January 3, 2013 at 1:19 PM

The other day I bought an angled foregrip from them (it was my first order from them) but everything seems legit so far. They sent me a personal email thanking me for the order, and, according to UPS via the tracking number, it should be in my mailbox tomorrow. Can’t wait.

WhatSlushfund on January 3, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Is that the “natural pointing” angled foregrip?
I was just looking at that. Have you ever tried one to see how it actually feels?

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

AR doesn’t stand for assault rifle.

How about those of us who are the real victims here?

An AR-15 or similar or a Smith 65 or 66 is all I know how to shoot — the Bushmaster’s nomenclature was XM and I have a 2 S or some other designation you can’t find anymore.

I’m just fair with a 1911.

I hope the left gives me some special program or something.

IlikedAUH2O on January 3, 2013 at 1:38 PM

dentarthurdent on January 3, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Yep, that’s the one. I’ve never tested this particular model, but it looks interesting. I’ve fired with Magpul’s on friends’ ARs, but when I bought a Magpul AFG myself, it wouldn’t fit on my rail for some reason. Don’t know why; it’s a mil spec rail, and all my other Magpul stuff fits on it. (Anyone else have that problem?) Maybe some quality control issues there.

But this one looks like a more simple design, with interesting ergonomics, so hopefully I’ll be set up.

WhatSlushfund on January 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

WhatSlushfund on January 3, 2013 at 1:40 PM

With all due respect, I can’t understand why it would not fit if you had a standard rail and the model Magpul was made right.

The other folk’s here can’t answer unless you let them handle the thing and check your facts.

My suggestion: measure both and contact a good smith or the company involved as seller or maker.

Other than that, you are losing us.

IlikedAUH2O on January 3, 2013 at 2:06 PM

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