Democratic rep on cliff deal: No worries, your unemployment check is in the mail

posted at 2:51 pm on January 2, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Goodness knows I’ve grappled with exactly how I’ve hoped the fiscal-cliff finagling would finally finish up, but the overriding constant for me has always been the ultimate triviality of the entirely petty discussion — and this just so perfectly, painfully exhibits precisely why.

For Rep. Danny K. Davis, Illinois Democrat, the “fiscal cliff” fight came down to one thing: the unemployment checks the government will still be able to send to thousands of his constituents.

“When I go to church on Sunday, I know that I will see people with the assurance that pretty soon an unemployment check is in the mail,” he said.

Mr. Davis said he’d come to the floor Tuesday after speaking with two constituents who’d called his office begging him to vote against the cliff deal, which extended tax cuts for most Americans, allowed rates to rise for the wealthiest and included $330 billion in other new spending such as the expanded unemployment benefits for the long-term jobless.

Emphasizing the maintenance of unemployment benefits as one of the most critical aspects of this whole issue? How on earth did America get here?

Unemployment benefits are not, never have been, and never will be a real or even a temporary solution to any of our problems — because the preemptive condition of their existence is heady unemployment. Despite the back-patting over the wildly marginal and deceptive ‘progress’ in our national unemployment rate we’re meant to have seen in the past few months, this flirting-with-at-least-eight-percent has been around for a disturbingly long while. Just continuing to redistribute money we unequivocally do not have is not only going to add to our stupendously daunting debt problem, but it also helps to simply perpetuate a vicious cycle of joblessness. The prevailing attitude that taking more and more money out of the private sector — at the inevitable opportunity cost of business growth and job creation — is somehow a good idea, is one of the systemic conditions putting a damper on our economic growth.

Robust economic growth is the only real way that we can eventually climb out of this mess, but the Obama administration and the Democrats can’t seem to find it in their hearts to let it happen. Republicans don’t want to merely snatch away unemployment benefits, food stamps, and etcetera; they want to engender a healthy economy in which people neither need nor even want them, because the opportunities of the alternatives are vastly better.

Why and how are anybody’s constituents, anywhere, supposed to be placated by the fact that a taxpayer-funded check is on the way? How about — oh, I don’t know — a productive, private-sector job instead?


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Santa Clause for autocratic dictator 4eva!

tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Lean Forward, American Bark voters, and embrace the new normal, your guvment check is in the mail. This is what you wanted and you deserve it, good and hard.

Bishop on January 2, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Everything going according to the Democratic Party’s plan.

Make as many voters as possible reliant on government.

ButterflyDragon on January 2, 2013 at 2:55 PM

funemployment checks are so pre-2012. people should be sent an iPad 2 or a Samsung Galaxy. maybe include an auto-penned note that states “A gift for you from President Obama, because he cares <3"

Jeddite on January 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I will refuse to negotiate over raising the debt limit – unless the GOP agrees to a permanent extension of unemployment benefits to a limit of 50 years.

CorporatePiggy on January 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM

OT Those crazy “youths” at it again in the Islamic Republic of France.

Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were torched by French youths overnight in what has become a dubious New Year’s Eve tradition.

tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

How about — oh, I don’t know — a productive, private-sector job instead?

Racist!

rbj on January 2, 2013 at 3:02 PM

I can’t believe people still have to drudge to their mailboxes or ATM machines to access their funemployment.

Its barbaric, it is…

catmman on January 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM

OT, but Drudge has story that Journal News hired armed guards in the backlash for outing gun-permit holders?

John the Libertarian on January 2, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Good ole Wiki:

Surprise!

Davis is a member of the Congressional Black Caucus, Progressive Caucus, and Democratic Socialists of America.

Fallon on January 2, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Why and how are anybody’s constituents, anywhere, supposed to be placated by the fact that a taxpayer-funded check is on the way? How about — oh, I don’t know — a productive, private-sector job instead?

Obama’s peeps don’t want jobs. All they want is a taxpayer funded lifelong vacation, their Obamaphones and the knowledge that Santa Bama is going to keep the gravy train rolling along. It was the fear of actually having to work for a living that drove them to the polls in the first place.

HotAirian on January 2, 2013 at 3:08 PM

bho left for HI without signing this ‘must do now or the US will explode’ bill and some are wondering if bho will use ‘autopen’? Can’t take valuable time away from golf now can we?

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/02/will-white-house-use-autopen-again-to-sign-fiscal-cliff-bill/
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letget on January 2, 2013 at 3:08 PM

I don’t get the manufactured outrage here. The economy still sucks, and UE benefits have pretty much the highest stimulus multiples of any spending. There are a lot of things to get worked up over, but this is not one of them.

Focus, people.

blue13326 on January 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

OT Those crazy “youths” at it again in the Islamic Republic of France.

Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were torched by French youths overnight in what has become a dubious New Year’s Eve tradition.

tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Makes you wonder if they’d torch the cars if they knew the owners had firearms? /

Hill60 on January 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

I don’t get the manufactured outrage here. The economy still sucks, and UE benefits have pretty much the highest stimulus multiples of any spending. There are a lot of things to get worked up over, but this is not one of them.

Focus, people.

blue13326 on January 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Highest stimulus multiples?

Go teach your grandmother to suck eggs. That money was already confiscated from someone else. You people are unbelievable.

tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were torched by French youths overnight in what has become a dubious New Year’s Eve tradition.

tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

The French version of Cash for Clinkers to stimulate the economy?

Fallon on January 2, 2013 at 3:14 PM

I run a workforce development business.

Usually, on the first working day of the new year, our inbox is filled with inquires from job seekers and job changers wanting get going on upgrading their employability.

This morning there was a grand total of one.

Those with jobs have been in hunker-down mode since late last summer; I don’t see things changing up anytime soon – people are worried and paralyzed.

There is a hidden structural unemployment out there like I’ve never seen.

Scary time, folks.

Scary times.

Bruno Strozek on January 2, 2013 at 3:14 PM

blue13326 on January 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

If you really believe that, that unemployment is a stimulus, why not just take it to its logical conclusion? Shut down all private industry, put everyone on unemployment, and make up the difference by printing money. That should work, right?

Fenris on January 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Those checks keep people on the plantation and they don’t even have to pick cotton.

docflash on January 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

I don’t get the manufactured outrage here.

blue13326 on January 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

As a S-Corp co-owner trying to survive (and who employs 10 people), we just got screwed over by Boehner and company’s cave in to tyranny of the majority, after having been pilloried and vilified by half the country (including the OWS rapists and anarchists) and our president for over 4 years… Manufactured? Puh-lease…

*spit*

Fallon on January 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

“Hooray Beer!”

Thank you sir, may I have another? Who’s up for Obama 2016? Come on, you know you want it…and don’t EVEN try to tell me it can’t happen. If they realistically think they can get around the 2nd Amendment, which they do, they sure as hell can make a 3rd Obama term happen.

Because it’s for the good of the nation you know.

Meople on January 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Why am I not the least bit shocked or surprised that something this certifiable crass and stupid would come from the lips of one who is NOT ONLY an Illinois politician, NOT ONLY a Chicago Machine Politician, but ALSO HAS the dubious distinction of previously being a CHICAGO CITY ALDERMAN?!!!!!!

pilamaye on January 2, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Those checks keep people on the plantation and they don’t even have to pick cotton.

docflash on January 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

No – but a lot of them grow, pick, distribute, and/or smoke that good old MJ….

dentarthurdent on January 2, 2013 at 3:27 PM

In this case the house played the hand that was dealt. Obama only got a portion of the taxes he actually wanted and for the majority of taxpayers the Bush era cuts are now permanent. Their only real option was to let tax rates increase on all Americans and let sequestration begin, which would have been a great act of defiance but nothing else would have been accomplished. When you’re in a street fight, on the ground getting kicked from all sides your first first priority is to get up and escape the blows and the Republicans did just that. The GOP will hold the high hand in the next go around so get ready for the debt ceiling free-for-all.

rplat on January 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM

OT – Woman Tries Buying iPad with Food Stamps

CoffeeLover on January 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Please understand that as things are today your “debt” will grow from $184,298 today to about $1.8 million per person within the next 30 years. This is a mathematical fact; it is what an 8% growth in debt, which is roughly the historical average over the last few decades, leads to 30 years from now.

You have no hope of paying $1.8 million per person and neither do the children you may bring into the world in the future.

This is a set of choices that nobody wants to see come, and yet it is coming. It will come in your lifetime. If you do not stop what is going on today by saying I WILL NOT PAY in a loud, clear, singular voice it is mathematically certain to come before your children reach adulthood.

KD@M-T

tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM

OT – Woman Tries Buying iPad with Food Stamps “Obama’s Stash”

CoffeeLover on January 2, 2013 at 3:31 PM

FIFY. :-)

Resist We Much on January 2, 2013 at 3:34 PM

LOL RWM….Happy New Year :)

CoffeeLover on January 2, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Moody’s out today saying they don’t like what Congress did last night….another potential downgrade coming despite Wall Street being up almost +250

CoffeeLover on January 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Sure, because institutionalized lunacy is soo much better.

An amendment that denies expenditures for domestic programs using borrowed money would cure every spending problem we suffer from, how likely is that?

Actually it doesn’t matter, when the bond market collapses borrowed money won’t be spent on anything.

Speakup on January 2, 2013 at 3:40 PM

We are no longer the USA, we are the FSA.

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 3:45 PM

How on earth did America get here?

A century of “Progressive” thought and indoctrination throughout all our educational institutions …

ShainS on January 2, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Rumour is that Boehner will be resigning as Speaker this afternoon at 5 PM EST.

Resist We Much on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

You, too, Coffee Lover!

Resist We Much on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Rumour is that Boehner will be resigning as Speaker this afternoon at 5 PM EST.

Resist We Much on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

IF only. Time to think outside of the Box, The Speaker of the Mouse does not have to be an elected Congressman, for the love of Goad and all that is Holy somebody put Col. Allen West’s name up as the next Speaker of the House.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM

OT Those crazy “youths” at it again in the Islamic Republic of France.

Interior Minister Manuel Valls said Tuesday that 1,193 vehicles were torched by French youths overnight in what has become a dubious New Year’s Eve tradition.
tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Is “diversity” their greatest strength, as it is ours?

What a sad, sick joke this world is.

AZCoyote on January 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM

I don’t get the manufactured outrage here. The economy still sucks, and UE benefits have pretty much the highest stimulus multiples of any spending. There are a lot of things to get worked up over, but this is not one of them.

Focus, people.

blue13326 on January 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

And where do we get the damn money to keep paying for the unemployed you stupid communist scum…

mnjg on January 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Rumour is that Boehner will be resigning as Speaker this afternoon at 5 PM EST.

Resist We Much on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Just in the nick of time, aye?

Nice final act as Speaker there pal! I hope your entire political career is finished as well, f’ing Rino.

Meople on January 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM

IF only. Time to think outside of the Box, The Speaker of the Mouse does not have to be an elected Congressman, for the love of Goad and all that is Holy somebody put Col. Allen West’s name up as the next Speaker of the House.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM

When is the last time there was a speaker of the House who was not an active US representative of the House?

mnjg on January 2, 2013 at 4:02 PM

I don’t get the manufactured outrage here. The economy still sucks, and UE benefits have pretty much the highest stimulus multiples of any spending. There are a lot of things to get worked up over, but this is not one of them.

Focus, people.

blue13326 on January 2, 2013 at 3:10 PM

And where do we get the damn money to keep paying for the unemployed you stupid communist scum…

mnjg on January 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM

He cannot answer that, he doesn’t know what math is. He clearly thinks that the Graberment can just print “money” out of thin air. He’s about as bright as the dumb blond in that old joke, “What do you mean I’m out of money, I still have checks left”.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 4:03 PM

But afterward, there’s no doubt 3 million human beings were slaughtered. Jane Fonda said not a word. And to this day, she blames America for everything. And I think it’s wrong. But you’re not Jane Fonda. And it’s a pleasure to talk with you. And I’m going to give you the last word. You can say whatever you want. Go.

TURNER: I’d like to have this conversation at greater length about global warming…

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-horrifying-legacy-of-khmer-rouge.html

But that can’t happen here.

davidk on January 2, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Rumour is that Boehner will be resigning as Speaker this afternoon at 5 PM EST.

Resist We Much on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

http://www.sodahead.com/living/speaker-john-boehner-to-resign-today/question-3432145/

davidk on January 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Speaker Boehner owns shares in seven different Canadian tar sand companies and it is highly likely that he knows the job numbers are inflated as an investor and stands to profit if the pipeline is built. Boehner went so far as threatening to tie 160 million working Americans’ payroll tax cut extension to approval of the pipeline. Boehner’s extortion threats were the last straw, and inspired a national petition to force him to resign or face expulsion from Congress for ethics violations. However, ethics violations are the least of Boehner’s problems once the SEC finishes their investigation which they confirmed is actively under consideration.

http://www.politicususa.com/john-boehner-resign.html

davidk on January 2, 2013 at 4:10 PM

IF only. Time to think outside of the Box, The Speaker of the Mouse does not have to be an elected Congressman, for the love of Goad and all that is Holy somebody put Col. Allen West’s name up as the next Speaker of the House.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM

When is the last time there was a speaker of the House who was not an active US representative of the House?

mnjg on January 2, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Does it matter? Perhaps I should highlight this. Time to think outside of the Box, The Speaker of the Mouse does not have to be an elected Congressman,.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Makes you wonder if they’d torch the cars if they knew the owners had firearms? /

Hill60 on January 2, 2013 at 3:12 PM

My first thought exactly.

UltimateBob on January 2, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Does it matter? Perhaps I should highlight this. Time to think outside of the Box, The Speaker of the Mouse does not have to be an elected Congressman,.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 4:12 PM

But, the House must nominate someone as speaker, and they won’t look outside their little den of thieves.

UltimateBob on January 2, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Those still being productive citizens should take a two to four year vacation. The gubmint will pay for it.

Rockshine on January 2, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Hell with it…

WE’RE ALL LOOTERS NOW!!!!

BigWyo on January 2, 2013 at 4:28 PM

In this case the house played the hand that was dealt.
rplat on January 2, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Didn’t they deal from the bottom of the deck to stack their own hand?

cptacek on January 2, 2013 at 5:35 PM

This old fossil Davis should retire. I’d be embarrassed for his constituents every time he speaks but they’re all on the same level of incoherency. I’m curious though–how many of those people have had a job recently that they could collect unemployment off of? Or is he planning staff layoffs?

stukinIL4now on January 2, 2013 at 6:55 PM

…E X P L E T I V E…POS!

KOOLAID2 on January 2, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Those checks keep people on the plantation and they don’t even have to pick cotton.

docflash on January 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Excellent. Please allow me to That your ass.

^ That.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 9:06 PM

That diploma on the wall is not a skill.

mixplix on January 3, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Emphasizing the maintenance of unemployment benefits as one of the most critical aspects of this whole issue? How on earth did America get here?

Semi-retired able bodied work force hoping for ‘to the grave’ extensions… and the politicians they vote for.

RalphyBoy on January 3, 2013 at 11:34 AM

That diploma on the wall is not a skill.

mixplix on January 3, 2013 at 11:19 AM

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For many a diploma was a way to stay in high-school a few more years.

RalphyBoy on January 3, 2013 at 11:35 AM