I’m an America too- but ‘Israel Lobby’ is a code word for pure Jew-hatred. You might want to chose your words differently.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 2, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Typical lie-beral denying reality and using the tired old “dog whistles” argument. If there was not an Israeli lobby then AIPAC is just a figment of my imagination. The “Israeli Lobby doesn’t exist” crowd usually get their talking points from people who makes lots of money off of the foreign lobby business. It works the same way for countries other than Israel, why was Brent Scowcroft against the second Iraq War? Here’s a hint, Turkey didn’t get all their concessions and opposed it.

I’m an American, dear. My love, loyalty, and pride is for America and her national interests.

Punchenko on January 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM

I’m an America too- but ‘Israel Lobby’ is a code word for pure Jew-hatred. You might want to chose your words differently.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 2, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Look, I’m not going to be intimidated by you or any other to “choose my words differently” when discussing politics in what’s left of a free country.

Furthermore, the Israel Lobby is real, it’s powerful, and like other foreign lobbies before it, it is not above criticism. Period.

The GOP will betray you

True_King on January 2, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Not nearly as badly as the TruCons.

Punchenko on January 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM

I’m an America too- but ‘Israel Lobby’ is a code word for pure Jew-hatred. You might want to chose your words differently.

honestly, i think this is a red herring. Ignore the proferred first nomination, worry about the 2nd. That’ll be the one who they really want. They have learned to play the media and the citizenry like a fiddle, IMO.

ted c on January 2, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Hagel is a bad nomination but ted’s comment is right on.

Whereupon terrorism will be “returned to its proper status as a law-enforcement concern”, to quote Kerry when he ran for President in 2004.

al-Qaeda In (Everywhere) will be dancing in the streets and shooting AK-47s into the air five seconds later. Bet on it.

Then they’ll start planing another 9/11. Bigger and better than the last two, from their POV.

When it happens, Kerry will blame… the NRA. And have Eric Holder take “appropriate measures”.

Hagel at Defense and Kerry at State, with The One in the Oval Office, would be a trifecta for people who hate our chromosomes. But they, and The One, will settle for best two out of three.

On that count, he’s halfway there already.

clear ether

eon

Israel Lobby?. Who are you, Walt or Mearsheimer.?
Jew-hating swine.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 2, 2013 at 10:37 AM

I’m an American, dear. My love, loyalty, and pride is for America and her national interests.

No doubt the guy is anti-semtic based on his numerous statements but the first criteria should be skill set.

I know what you are all thinking, when the top dog (eater) doesn’t have the necessary skill set, why should anyone else.

The real reason people are railing against Hagel is that he is, in fact, a Muslim.

CorporatePiggy on January 2, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Link?

Israel Lobby?. Who are you, Walt or Mearsheimer.?
Jew-hating swine.

“He [Al Franken] recalled writing a skit called ‘Seamen on Broadway’ that was rejected from the Hasty Pudding show ‘by some preppie so they could take some other preppie’s skit.’ Franken started to smile again, but his tone was serious, too serious.

‘It’s not preppies, cause I’m a preppie myself. I just don’t like homosexuals. If you ask me, they’re all homosexuals in the Pudding. Hey, I was glad when that Pudding homosexual got killed in Philadelphia.’

The smile became so broad it pushed his eyes shut. He couldn’t stand it any longer. ‘Put that in, put that in,’ Franken laughed, leaning over the desk. ‘I’d love to see that in The Crimson.’”

Live From New York: It’s Al Franken, Harvard Crimson, 16 April 1976

Not that I want Hagel even nominated. Just keeping ‘em honest…

And, just to top off the weirdness, and rile liberals further, the likely second choice for DefSec Michele Flournoy gets a nod from…Paul Wolfowitz. Those tricky, sexist Republicans, criticizing an old, white man of their own party while arguing for the elevation of the first female Secretary of Defense.

Liberals aren’t riled — they’re winning. They actually look more pro-America and American interests than the GOP which is clearly in the tank for, erhmm, a foreign country and its lobby.

But it is rather amusing to watch neoconservatives, using the language of the left, denounce Chuck Hagel, a decorated war hero, as a “sexist”, “homophobe”, and an “old, white man” just because he won’t roll over for the Israel Lobby, the hawks, and their shared interests.

Can you really blame so many for walking away from the GOP? When not caving on economics, immigration, etc. they’re denouncing “old, white men” for not being sufficiently Israeli enough to be THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA’S SECRETARY OF DEFENSE.

It’s all a bit much.

Hagel getting stiffed by Barney?

coldwarrior on January 2, 2013 at 9:13 AM

…I didn’t read anything about salve!

You need to start preparing for the post-GOP political landscape.

Who’s going to lead? Who will step up to the plate?

What do you all need to do to save your nation?

What you’ve done so far, supporting the GOP regardless of what they do, has not worked. What is “Plan B”?

The GOP will betray you