Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on January 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

House Speaker John A. Boehner kicked off the 112th Congress by saying Americans are ready for an adult conversation on spending and deficits.

Two years later, that broader conversation has yet to happen, either in the country or in the halls of Congress, where lawmakers were poised Monday to once again nibble at the deficit but shy away from fundamental reforms…

“Instead of having a president who runs around saying we’re going to stick it to rich people, what we really need are honest people to go around the country and say to people, ‘If you are working class or you are retired, the government is stealing from you,’” the Kentucky Republican said on the Senate floor. “Why do prices go up? Because we run a deficit up here giving you free stuff, we print up money to pay for it, and that steals value from what you have.”

***

The “fiscal cliff” is a massive failure of presidential leadership. The tedious and technical negotiations are but a subplot in a larger drama. Government can no longer fulfill all the promises it has made to various constituencies. Some promises will be reduced or disavowed. Which ones? Why? Only the president can pose these questions in a way that starts a national conversation over the choices to be made, but doing so requires the president to tell people things they don’t want to hear. That’s his job: to help Americans face unavoidable, if unpleasant, realities. Barack Obama has refused to play this role

Until Obama conspicuously and consistently acknowledges these realities in straightforward and unmistakable language — something he hasn’t done and shows no signs of doing — he cannot be said to be dealing honestly with the budget or with the American people. The main reason that we keep having these destructive and inconclusive budget confrontations is not simply that many Republicans have been intransigent on taxes. The larger cause is that Obama refuses to concede that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are driving future spending and deficits. So when Republicans make concessions on taxes (as they have), they get little in return. Naturally, this poisons the negotiating climate…

Unfortunately, much of the media have accepted the Obama narrative that it’s only Republican rigidity that frustrates negotiations and leads to deadlock. This means, of course, that there’s even less incentive for Obama and congressional Democrats to engage in genuine bargaining.

***

[W]e have crossed the Rubicon of political reality. The president holds a cheerleading session to ridicule Congress, not one plan offered makes even the smallest dent in our economic disaster, cynical political ploys by Harry Reid torpedo possible agreements — all these petty politicians fiddle while America burns. And then, we’re supposed to believe that a last-second deal responsibly solves the problem from a bunch of bickerers who had months (years, really) to tackle the issue?

Our crisis is political, not economic. Politics is ultimately a moral exercise, no matter what it deals with. Leaders are stewards of our social patrimony. What we see in Washington today is not gridlock. It is collapse. It is the final triumph of political theater over political reality, of ignorance over reasoned governing, of self-interest over principle. A $12 trillion economy and 230-plus-year history can survive a great deal of abuse and neglect. But history proves no state is immune from the self-inflicted idiocy of its leaders or people. Just how long we will survive in this state is now a proposition fully engaged. It is the great social experiment of the 21st century.

***

None of the deals proposed to save us from falling off the mythical cliff would make even a tiny dent in our on-going trillion dollar deficits, which is what this exercise was supposed to be all about. The final battle has now been postponed until February or March, when we hit the debt ceiling.

Republicans hope to get spending cuts from the president in return for agreeing to an increase in the debt ceiling, and the president plans to force Republicans to accept tax increases so that in the absence of spending cuts the ceiling will not be pierced. All of which means a continuation of the uncertainty that has become part of the new normal, which has big business sitting on its piles of cash, and small businesses wondering whether they dare take on new employees. The private sector will have to overcome substantial political headwinds to produce a meaningful growth rate in 2013.

Of course, in the end the enemy is us: We elect and reelect the vast majority of those who are presiding over this policy mess. It is as if the Jets decide to keep the current coaching staff and player roster after their woeful performance this season; as if Wizards fans find ways to express overwhelming satisfaction with the current cast of characters that represent them at the Verizon Center; as if we come to agree with many Europeans who regard Jimmy Carter as the most distinguished former president, and demand his return to political life.

***

Ultimately, we should blame the American voters. The average Medicare couple pays $109,000 into the program and gets $343,000 in benefits out, according to the Urban Institute. This is $234,000 in free money. Many voters have decided they like spending a lot on themselves and pushing costs onto their children and grandchildren. They have decided they like borrowing up to $1 trillion a year for tax credits, disability payments, defense contracts and the rest. They have found that the original Keynesian rationale for these deficits provides a perfect cover for permanent deficit-living. They have made it clear that they will destroy any politician who tries to stop them from cost-shifting in this way.

Most members of Congress are responding efficiently to the popular will. A large number of reactionary Democrats reject any measure to touch Medicare or other entitlement programs. A large number of impotent Republicans talk about reducing the debt, but are incapable of forging a deal that balances tax increases with spending cuts.

The events of the past few weeks demonstrate that these political pressures overwhelm the few realists looking for a more ambitious bargain. The country either doesn’t know or doesn’t care about the burdens we are placing on our children. No coalition of leaders has successfully confronted the voters, and made them heedful of the ruin they are bringing upon the nation.

***

You can blame the spineless politicians all you like, and I will happily blame them right along with you. But the fact is, this giant pile of irresponsible debt is what this increasingly soulless and immoral country wants. The longer we do this, the more we are wrecking our children’s futures. And tra la la, nobody seems to care. We’re going to “get the millionaires who are doing pretty well to do a little more,” to use the Huckster in Chief’s well worn phrase, and meanwhile the do-nothings who contribute zero to our society get to keep sucking on the socialist teat. And this is what we want, as a country. This is what we voted for

Our children’s futures are wasting away in front of our eyes, and nobody gives a damn, as long as we can keep injecting those sweet, sweet government benefits into our bloodstream. Just close your eyes and feel the calm wash over you, and try not to think about the small child gasping for air at your feet.

Ahhhh. Doesn’t it feel good, folks?


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thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:40 AM

You betcha. I might have a leash on but I’ll be there. hehe (:

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:41 AM

I don’t understand. Which corrupt bastards do you think they should vote for? Or do you think your chosen bastards are special and not corrupt?

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:29 AM

I’m saying that people should stop voting for them. If they won’t then they should stop pretending that they’re not part of the problem. Everybody who votes for a crony capitalist generational thief and defends them and makes excuses for them and promotes them and donates money to them are the problem.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Schadenfreude on January 2, 2013 at 1:37 AM

Maan, I knew she was into Jedi/Ninja/Huma tricks but that is awesome.

arnold ziffel on January 2, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Yep. You did. Quite a stretch too. Considering it was New Years Eve and Jackie is the life of any party.

Anyway you did a good thunk. That’s the past tense of think.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Who Will The Next Fool Be – Amazing Rhythm Aces

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Anyway you did a good thunk. That’s the past tense of think.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:46 AM

He thunk well.

Schadenfreude on January 2, 2013 at 1:48 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 1:36 AM

lolz..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 1:41 AM

Good evening Linus… errr dire… ;)

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Anyway you did a good thunk. That’s the past tense of think.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Shut up and give me my f****** brownie.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:48 AM

I want to go into the forest glen with the moon goddess and never come out.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:49 AM

I want to go into the forest glen with the moon goddess and never come out.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Be careful…

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 1:50 AM

All The Fools Sailed Away to DC

Schadenfreude on January 2, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Ever notice that sound…schplunk….schplunk….schplunk…that the water makes when it laps against the pilings of a pier, or the wooden hull of a small boat?

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM

I want to go into the forest glen with the moon goddess and never come out.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:49 AM

Warcraft??..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM

I’m saying that people should stop voting for them. If they won’t then they should stop pretending that they’re not part of the problem. Everybody who votes for a crony capitalist generational thief and defends them and makes excuses for them and promotes them and donates money to them are the problem.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 1:43 AM

You emphasized “stop.” So once the bastard is exposed as corrupt, there is no excuse for continuing to vote for the bastard. That?

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Schadenfreude on January 2, 2013 at 1:50 AM

Oh, excellent choice, Schadenfreude. You know I love DIO. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Schadenfreude on January 2, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Thanks for the clarification and no disagreement whatsoever.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Sorry, I’m done for the night. Just too great a day. ;)

arnold ziffel on January 2, 2013 at 1:33 AM

Nice post..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 1:53 AM

Warcraft??..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM

No, he’s hitting on Jackie, damn it.

B9!

B9!

How do you make this louder . . .

B9!

B9!

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Bwaahhh. Ok if you get a brownie for that then I should get the 2012 certified psychic award for conjuring and summing people out of thin air.

I only goofed up a few times. hehe

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Boehner must be removed. Might as well have David Brooks in his place.

pat on January 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM

No…lol!:)

MY forest glade. There’s a lovely pool at the bottom of the waterfall. The air is heavy with the scent of rich loam, and tender green shoots. Tiny toads sit on their toadstools and watch as Spark dances with the forest nymphs. It’s a magical and wondrous place.

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Ever notice that sound…schplunk….schplunk….schplunk…that the water makes when it laps against the pilings of a pier, or the wooden hull of a small boat?

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM

Why are you thinking of that? That’s part of my inside, that sound. My dad’s there. :) Why are you thinking of that?

Someone cannon ball yur pool?

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Chain Of Fools – Franklin

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:57 AM

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 1:51 AM

No…lol!:)

MY forest glade. There’s a lovely pool at the bottom of the waterfall. The air is heavy with the scent of rich loam, and tender green shoots. Tiny toads sit on their toadstools and watch as Spark dances with the forest nymphs. It’s a magical and wondrous place.

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:55 AM

A lovely pool,eh…

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM

She is poaching me and I am weak, very weak.

B9,

Me and the moon goddess have a strictly professional relationship, we are examining the botany of the forest glen for research purposes.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Kim Roy is one of Romney’s online thugs.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 1:09 AM

You really are a clown. You defend an Obama voter because you think it’s romantic (oooo lookit us rebels fighting the establishment) meanwhile back in reality we have a choice of ick and ickier.

I will continue telling Honda to FOAD and now more so because it irritates you so.

You keep abusing that chicken because I believed Romney was a better alternative than Obama and better than a vote for a 1% of the vote candidate like Johnson.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Oh its a forest glade not a glen.

No wonder I got lost.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:59 AM

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:56 AM

I”m not sure. I suddenly ‘heard’ that sound. A memory from a place I used to go when I was a kid. I was instantly transported, as it were. I walked around musing about it for a couple of days, and then I wrote it into one of the novels and used it as a sort of symbolic recurring theme tied to the protagonist… and the place he finds himself.

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Oh its a forest glade not a glen.

No wonder I got lost.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:59 AM

lol

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:01 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

LOL! Great tune! Good evening, Walker. How are you this evening? :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:01 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

LOL! Great tune! Good evening, Walker. How are you this evening? :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Well, to tell you the truth, nervous as all hell, got a Job interview tomorrow. I know I should go to bed already but, nervous energy is keeping me up. o_O

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:54 AM

rofl..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM

You emphasized “stop.” So once the bastard is exposed as corrupt, there is no excuse for continuing to vote for the bastard. That?

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 1:52 AM

Sure, people have plenty of excuses, for most people the excuse is ignorance. Obviously unless you are just going to throw your arms up and give up and wait passively for the crash or worse, slow decline, then we need to try our best to wake people up to the truth in this country. They have to stop falling for the same old political/propaganda tricks and stop sending crooked politicians back to Washington DC just because they have billions of dollars of crony-money to fling around on deceitful propaganda.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Don’t believe him, B9! He’s making excuses for frolicking with all those forest dryads clad in diaphanous gowns with garlands of flowers and leaves twined in their hair! LOL!

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM

What’s up peeps?
(Happy belated New Year.)
Got home last night and lurked for a bit, but was a little too hammered to type. (Though, it doesn’t stop some! :))

This title fits for what’s happening in DC (though the lyrics don’t).
Cool tune, though.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:05 AM

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:06 AM

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 1:55 AM

Ok, you are officially in charge of creating my world. That was beautiful.

rich loam, and tender green shoots. Tiny toads sit on their toadstools and watch as Spark dances with the forest nymphs.

and there are forest nymphs, lots of them.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:06 AM

We have to wake people up to the fact that politicians and the D and R parties are some of the MSM’s most lucrative clients. We no longer have checks and balances in America, our system of government is corrupt and broken.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:06 AM

meanwhile back in reality we have a choice of ick and ickier.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/12-2/Tax%20Hike%20In%20Perspective.jpg

In reality the GOP isn’t offering anything significantly different than the Democrats.

Against a great evil, a small remedy does not produce a small result;
it produces no result at all.

-John Stuart Mill

sharrukin on January 2, 2013 at 2:07 AM

Well, to tell you the truth, nervous as all hell, got a Job interview tomorrow. I know I should go to bed already but, nervous energy is keeping me up. o_O

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Prayers and my heart, brother. :) I hope it goes as it should go.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:08 AM

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Ignorant people don’t believe that they’re ignorant.
They just are.

You either haven’t tried to convince many ignorant people of the truth (America’s approaching doom), or you get beat up a lot (A LOT).

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:08 AM

frolicking?

Cripes, a guy can’t even frolick anymore. LOL.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:08 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

hey you should be well rested. Just lay down and relax and psych yourself up. You will shine.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:09 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Hello, Mr. Straits.
Good New Year? (I thought you were depressed, from the few comments I scanned. Hope you’re happy, now.)

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:06 AM

It’s wonderful to see you this evening, Dire! I hope you’re New Year’s celebration was marvelous. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM

Cripes, a guy can’t even frolick anymore. LOL.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Skipping is right out.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM

and there are forest nymphs, lots of them.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:06 AM

What about pixies?
(If so, save a few pixies for me.)

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Schadenfreude on January 2, 2013 at 12:41 AM

And don’t forget the Mark of the Beast; microchips will be implanted in you.

Mirimichi on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Nerves the night before is a good thing. It means you’ll have it out of your system and be comfortable and in control tomorrow, and ace that interview. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Prayers and my heart, brother. :) I hope it goes as it should go.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:08 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

hey you should be well rested. Just lay down and relax and psych yourself up. You will shine.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:09 AM

I appreciate you guys well wishes, but this is Kalifornia, and the job market here is brutal right now. They are claiming an official unemployment rate here of 8.4% but nobody in their right mind believes that, probably closer to 12 or 15%.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:14 AM

rich loam, and tender green shoots. Tiny toads sit on their toadstools and watch as Spark dances with the forest nymphs.

and there are forest nymphs, lots of them.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Made of cheese. Because that goes well with chili.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/12-2/Tax%20Hike%20In%20Perspective.jpg

In reality the GOP isn’t offering anything significantly different than the Democrats.

Against a great evil, a small remedy does not produce a small result;
it produces no result at all.

-John Stuart Mill

sharrukin on January 2, 2013 at 2:07 AM

I was/am painfully aware of that. A lot of work needs to be done. My hope was that it could be done without some of the ensuing nonsense and felt it was worth the try.

I still believe that either the GOP needs a serious purge or a viable third party needs to be built.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Ok. Jackie will paint vivid picture of those pixies. She is an artist of words.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Nerves the night before is a good thing. It means you’ll have it out of your system and be comfortable and in control tomorrow, and ace that interview. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Hoping your right. ;)

Well, I guess I really should go to bed now, don’t want to get there tired from not getting enough sleep, and it’s going to be tough getting to sleep tonight. Good night everyone.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:16 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM No.No..No..I’m not depressed..You need to see Schadenfreude..I was trying to help walk him back from the rail..Had a great New Year..Sounds like you had a good one..:):)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Well, to tell you the truth, nervous as all hell, got a Job interview tomorrow. I know I should go to bed already but, nervous energy is keeping me up. o_O

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Lol. I once “got sick” in the parking lot of a place right before an interview. Luckily, I never eat breakfast. It was also winter, and I covered it up with some snow.

Just be yourself. (Yes, I know how stupid that sounds.)

The interview I had shortly before Thanksgiving was weird. The co-owner and I “shot the bull” for a half hour. He hardly asked any technical questions. I got the job. Weird.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:18 AM

I was/am painfully aware of that. A lot of work needs to be done. My hope was that it could be done without some of the ensuing nonsense and felt it was worth the try.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

It’s like the Hoover Dam is about to give way, and the GOP runs up with a pile of sticks in their arms and starts babbling about *maybe* making some repairs. It’s hard to take them seriously.

sharrukin on January 2, 2013 at 2:19 AM

Good night everyone.

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Later.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:20 AM

The interview I had shortly before Thanksgiving was weird. The co-owner and I “shot the bull” for a half hour. He hardly asked any technical questions. I got the job. Weird.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Congratulations to you, hopefully I will soon be counted again among the Obama Peons funding his dynastic dreams of Marxist glory… o_O

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:20 AM

You either haven’t tried to convince many ignorant people of the truth (America’s approaching doom), or you get beat up a lot (A LOT).

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:08 AM

We did just fine in the tea party days until the GOP establishment and media took it over and quickly made it as crappy and unpopular as they are.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:20 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Ok. Jackie will paint vivid picture of those pixies. She is an artist of words.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Of course there are pixies. They dance, leaping from one glittering refection of moonlight to the next as it plays across the surface of the pool, gathering the moonlight. When Spark dances with the dryads and nymphs, the pixies join in, casting tiny showers of sparkling light on the dancers, and the light shimmers on their gossamer wings. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Had a great New Year..Sounds like you had a good one..:):)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:17 AM

It was good. (I’m single, and without a girlfriend, so holidays–especially New Years–are usually a little awkward, as this one was.)

Still “high” off Christmas. Did Legos with my nephew. He’s a cool cat.

Start my new job on Monday. Excited and nervous. I should be fine (lol).

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:22 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Ok. Jackie will paint vivid picture of those pixies. She is an artist of words.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

NOT ‘weird’! CONGRATULATIONS! That’s wonderful news! :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:22 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Ok. Jackie will paint vivid picture of those pixies. She is an artist of words.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Goodnight, Walker! I’ll be thinking of you and holding a good thought about that job! Sleep Well. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Goodnight, Walker! I’ll be thinking of you and holding a good thought about that job! Sleep Well. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:24 AM

LOL! Sorry about that ‘quote block’ misfire earlier… still… wishing you the best! :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:25 AM

Congratulations to you, hopefully I will soon be counted again among the Obama Peons funding his dynastic dreams of Marxist glory… o_O

SWalker on January 2, 2013 at 2:20 AM

Lol. Indeed.
(You will get it. I’m sure of it.)
(Of course, you’re in CA, right? You might do better if you sign up for the dole. Take up painting, like Nancy says.)

You will get it.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:25 AM

It’s like the Hoover Dam is about to give way, and the GOP runs up with a pile of sticks in their arms and starts babbling about *maybe* making some repairs. It’s hard to take them seriously.

sharrukin on January 2, 2013 at 2:19 AM

Yes, it is, but until we get better options… hence the comment about a viable third party. Having some guy come in about six months out from an election and say “hi, I’m your current third party candidate” just isn’t good enough.

It needed to be started on 2009 and here we are starting 2013 with still the same band of idiots in charge.

Besides the handful of decent pols (West, R. Paul, Walker maybe a few others) they are all interested only in keeping their seat at the trough.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 2:25 AM

NOT ‘weird’! CONGRATULATIONS! That’s wonderful news! :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:22 AM

Thanks, Jackie. :)

(PS–Spark is right! Your pixies sound HAWT! Lol.)

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:26 AM

I will continue telling Honda to FOAD and now more so because it irritates you so.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

If you do you should be banned for violating HA’s terms of service by harassing long time HotAir commentators from thread to thread in a more offensive manner than Wise_man when he was banned 4 years ago at about this time after the ’08 election. He was just like you, he wouldn’t stop either.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:28 AM

We did just fine in the tea party days until the GOP establishment and media took it over and quickly made it as crappy and unpopular as they are.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:20 AM

Well, you’re changing the subject.
I was (am) all for the Tea Party movement, but they changed the mind of not one of the ignorants.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:28 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:11 AM No.No..No..I’m not depressed..You need to see Schadenfreude..I was trying to help walk him back from the rail..Had a great New Year..Sounds like you had a good one..:):)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:17 AM

Sorry for the strike out..Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:30 AM

Of course there are pixies. They dance, leaping from one glittering refection of moonlight to the next as it plays across the surface of the pool, gathering the moonlight. When Spark dances with the dryads and nymphs, the pixies join in, casting tiny showers of sparkling light on the dancers, and the light shimmers on their gossamer wings. :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Until the moon sets, and the shadows that were empty become solid and suffocating, reaching out and choking the pixie celebrants who fall to the ground like dying embers. And the elves that rush toward the gathering wind are driven back, and a rumble deeper and wider than thunder shakes the earth and sky, and onto the freezing ground a boot steps from a darker place, and with a stranger, colder light, someone new looks at your goddess and grins coldly.

“Ill met by moonlight, proud Titania,” he says. :)

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Start my new job on Monday. Excited and nervous. I should be fine (lol).

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:22 AM

You will be fine..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Moon Child – King Crimson

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

My wish for you all is a happy, prosperous, and magical New year!

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:35 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:26 AM

Yep. Jackie has gossamer wings. Now Axe is trying to rain on my fantasy pixie parade with buckets of cold mud pack; all because his tambourine got a fungus.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:36 AM

You will be fine..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Thanks. Hope so. (I’ll always be nervous around new people, etc.)

Really nice folks, though. Small company, making a lot of money. Many of them have been there for 10+ years. If I produce…

Should be good.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:36 AM

If you do you should be banned for violating HA’s terms of service by harassing long time HotAir commentators from thread to thread in a more offensive manner than Wise_man when he was banned 4 years ago at about this time after the ’08 election. He was just like you, he wouldn’t stop either.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:28 AM

You are silly.

Can you back up your claim of “thread to thread”? Can you at least show that I do it a minimum of once daily? Nope. What a whiny, exaggerating doof you are.

But you keep defending that proud Obama voter.

I’ll help you out here, Mr. Censorship. You can give the words “Contact Hot Air” a tap and voice your displeasure if you feel that strongly about it.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:32 AM

All unwelcome guests are instantly vanquished in my realm… and the moonlight never fades, it simply transmutes into the fire of the sun, only to be reborn in the sea at twilight. :)

“The moon is a silver tea cup adrift on a velvet sky,
and in the cup is a drop of fire to light the morning sun.” ~ Jackie ~ :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Yep. Jackie has gossamer wings. Now Axe is trying to rain on my fantasy pixie parade with buckets of cold mud pack; all because his tambourine got a fungus.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:36 AM

Yeah, I noticed that. Jackie prettily pours poetry for a fella, while Axe is over there, spewin’ filth–like something outta Penthouse Forum. Sheesh–some poeple!

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Night, J. :)

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:39 AM

All unwelcome guests are instantly vanquished in my realm… and the moonlight never fades, it simply transmutes into the fire of the sun, only to be reborn in the sea at twilight. :)

“The moon is a silver tea cup adrift on a velvet sky,
and in the cup is a drop of fire to light the morning sun.” ~ Jackie ~ :)

thatsafactjack on January 2, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Night Jackie. :)

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:40 AM

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 2:36 AM
Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:40 AM

Also, it seems my reading The Silmarillion as a teenager was not in vain. Happily.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:44 AM

When it comes to stalling difficult decisions, Barack Obama resembles James Buchanan and offers no comparison to Abraham Lincoln at all.

exdeadhead on January 2, 2013 at 2:49 AM

I wonder if there’s some way to instantly vanquish our unwelcome visitors that doesn’t require transmuting fire or getting Spark his own fairy . . .

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM

I was (am) all for the Tea Party movement, but they changed the mind of not one of the ignorants.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:28 AM

The tea party was so popular once upon a time because it was the kind of GOP that Republicans crave. Most people hate the GOP establishment, even most of the Republicans base do, and so when the tea party allowed the GOP establishment to take it over and they became one, instead of lifting the GOP establishment it sunk the tea party.

But you’re right, the tea party didn’t change minds, we were already out here in the real world waiting for a political party to represent us, as the tea party did for a while, and now we are waiting again because the corrupt GOP establishment and their corporate propaganda machine have won, for now.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:52 AM

I wonder if there’s some way to instantly vanquish our unwelcome visitors that doesn’t require transmuting fire or getting Spark his own fairy . . .

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM

I’m not certain, but I think canopfor is our resident alchemist. You should really ask him.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:52 AM

You really are a clown.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 1:58 AM

FOAD, scumbag.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:52 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 2:36 AM

You have great enthusiasm.Trust me..That will carry you a long long way..Do not ever lose it..:)

PS..What happened to the Detriot Lions?..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:55 AM

FOAD, scumbag.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:52 AM

Oh noes, oh noes I’m being harassed. Oh please help me Hot Gas mods. *clutches pearls*

Ban this dastardly meanie.

*cries*

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 2:58 AM

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 2:52 AM

I understand what you’re saying. But, we used to argue this crap all of the time. You still don’t see the “lesser of two evils” argument. This fact lessens your credibility, IMO.

Sure–many, many republicans in our federal government are good-for-nothing swine–no better than democrats. Still, they at least acknowledge that our system of entitlements are unsustainable. And, I would argue that there are enough “real conservatives” on the GOP side to actually do something to fix those entitlements.

The (vast majority–>90%)democrats deny that a problem even exists.

If your crew is mutinous, you’d do better to make the worst of the mutineers walk the plank, than those “sitting on the fence.” I.e., your anger is misdirected.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:01 AM

PS..What happened to the Detriot Lions?..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:55 AM

Lol. What usually happens to the Lions.
Did you know that most of the Offensive coaches got fired?
But…wait for it…NOT the Offensive Coordinator.

Personally, I’m in the club that thinks that, so long as the Ford family owns the Lions, we will continue to SUCK!

(Oh well, Spring Training is not far away!) :)

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:04 AM

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 2:58 AM

You are just an internet thug harassing somebody I respect, apparently trying to chase them off HotAir. It is in violation of the terms of service as I understood them in the past and is one of the reasons, as I recall, that Wise_man was banned for being an online McCain thug back about this time after the ’08 election. If you continue to harass my friends from thread to thread and HA is decides it’s OK then I’m going to do the same to you until they ban both of us.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:05 AM

…ban us because they get so sick of it.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:06 AM

And if RINO’s who side with Kim Roy don’t like me harassing him, well tough luck, he’s doing the same thing to my friends.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:04 AM

I hear you..:)

PS..Good Luck and much success in your new job..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 3:08 AM

*sigh*

Lurking.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 3:08 AM

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM

rofl..Ronulan..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 3:09 AM

PS..Good Luck and much success in your new job..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 3:08 AM

Thanks, bud. G’nite.

Lurking.

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 3:08 AM

The pretty ladies leave and you go all quiet? What if they’re lurking? They can’t observe your rapier wit, if you’re all quiet. :)

G’nite all.
(And, buckle up–you’ve got taxes to pay.)

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:11 AM

Still, they at least acknowledge that our system of entitlements are unsustainable.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:01 AM

And my campaign has made it very clear: the President’s cuts of $716 billion to Medicare, those cuts are going to be restored if I become President and Paul Ryan becomes Vice President. – Mitt Romney

Clear as mud.

sharrukin on January 2, 2013 at 3:11 AM

rofl..Ronulan..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 3:09 AM

LOL..RINO..:)

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:15 AM

Clear as mud.

sharrukin on January 2, 2013 at 3:11 AM

First, I didn’t say Romney.

Second, a President Romney would have been way better than Obama, when it comes to fiscal responsibility sanity.

Third, do you really think that RINOs and/or “neo-conservatives” are our problem, or does the problem lie with the 50% of our population that thinks “free stuff” exists?

Not waiting around for you to answer the question above, but I don’t believe your ideal politician exists. Even if he did, he’d have a heck of a time getting elected.

Probably, we’ll have to agree to disagree. (But you’re wrong, of course. :) )

G’nite.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:17 AM

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