Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on January 1, 2013 by Allahpundit

House Speaker John A. Boehner kicked off the 112th Congress by saying Americans are ready for an adult conversation on spending and deficits.

Two years later, that broader conversation has yet to happen, either in the country or in the halls of Congress, where lawmakers were poised Monday to once again nibble at the deficit but shy away from fundamental reforms…

“Instead of having a president who runs around saying we’re going to stick it to rich people, what we really need are honest people to go around the country and say to people, ‘If you are working class or you are retired, the government is stealing from you,’” the Kentucky Republican said on the Senate floor. “Why do prices go up? Because we run a deficit up here giving you free stuff, we print up money to pay for it, and that steals value from what you have.”

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The “fiscal cliff” is a massive failure of presidential leadership. The tedious and technical negotiations are but a subplot in a larger drama. Government can no longer fulfill all the promises it has made to various constituencies. Some promises will be reduced or disavowed. Which ones? Why? Only the president can pose these questions in a way that starts a national conversation over the choices to be made, but doing so requires the president to tell people things they don’t want to hear. That’s his job: to help Americans face unavoidable, if unpleasant, realities. Barack Obama has refused to play this role

Until Obama conspicuously and consistently acknowledges these realities in straightforward and unmistakable language — something he hasn’t done and shows no signs of doing — he cannot be said to be dealing honestly with the budget or with the American people. The main reason that we keep having these destructive and inconclusive budget confrontations is not simply that many Republicans have been intransigent on taxes. The larger cause is that Obama refuses to concede that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are driving future spending and deficits. So when Republicans make concessions on taxes (as they have), they get little in return. Naturally, this poisons the negotiating climate…

Unfortunately, much of the media have accepted the Obama narrative that it’s only Republican rigidity that frustrates negotiations and leads to deadlock. This means, of course, that there’s even less incentive for Obama and congressional Democrats to engage in genuine bargaining.

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[W]e have crossed the Rubicon of political reality. The president holds a cheerleading session to ridicule Congress, not one plan offered makes even the smallest dent in our economic disaster, cynical political ploys by Harry Reid torpedo possible agreements — all these petty politicians fiddle while America burns. And then, we’re supposed to believe that a last-second deal responsibly solves the problem from a bunch of bickerers who had months (years, really) to tackle the issue?

Our crisis is political, not economic. Politics is ultimately a moral exercise, no matter what it deals with. Leaders are stewards of our social patrimony. What we see in Washington today is not gridlock. It is collapse. It is the final triumph of political theater over political reality, of ignorance over reasoned governing, of self-interest over principle. A $12 trillion economy and 230-plus-year history can survive a great deal of abuse and neglect. But history proves no state is immune from the self-inflicted idiocy of its leaders or people. Just how long we will survive in this state is now a proposition fully engaged. It is the great social experiment of the 21st century.

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None of the deals proposed to save us from falling off the mythical cliff would make even a tiny dent in our on-going trillion dollar deficits, which is what this exercise was supposed to be all about. The final battle has now been postponed until February or March, when we hit the debt ceiling.

Republicans hope to get spending cuts from the president in return for agreeing to an increase in the debt ceiling, and the president plans to force Republicans to accept tax increases so that in the absence of spending cuts the ceiling will not be pierced. All of which means a continuation of the uncertainty that has become part of the new normal, which has big business sitting on its piles of cash, and small businesses wondering whether they dare take on new employees. The private sector will have to overcome substantial political headwinds to produce a meaningful growth rate in 2013.

Of course, in the end the enemy is us: We elect and reelect the vast majority of those who are presiding over this policy mess. It is as if the Jets decide to keep the current coaching staff and player roster after their woeful performance this season; as if Wizards fans find ways to express overwhelming satisfaction with the current cast of characters that represent them at the Verizon Center; as if we come to agree with many Europeans who regard Jimmy Carter as the most distinguished former president, and demand his return to political life.

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Ultimately, we should blame the American voters. The average Medicare couple pays $109,000 into the program and gets $343,000 in benefits out, according to the Urban Institute. This is $234,000 in free money. Many voters have decided they like spending a lot on themselves and pushing costs onto their children and grandchildren. They have decided they like borrowing up to $1 trillion a year for tax credits, disability payments, defense contracts and the rest. They have found that the original Keynesian rationale for these deficits provides a perfect cover for permanent deficit-living. They have made it clear that they will destroy any politician who tries to stop them from cost-shifting in this way.

Most members of Congress are responding efficiently to the popular will. A large number of reactionary Democrats reject any measure to touch Medicare or other entitlement programs. A large number of impotent Republicans talk about reducing the debt, but are incapable of forging a deal that balances tax increases with spending cuts.

The events of the past few weeks demonstrate that these political pressures overwhelm the few realists looking for a more ambitious bargain. The country either doesn’t know or doesn’t care about the burdens we are placing on our children. No coalition of leaders has successfully confronted the voters, and made them heedful of the ruin they are bringing upon the nation.

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You can blame the spineless politicians all you like, and I will happily blame them right along with you. But the fact is, this giant pile of irresponsible debt is what this increasingly soulless and immoral country wants. The longer we do this, the more we are wrecking our children’s futures. And tra la la, nobody seems to care. We’re going to “get the millionaires who are doing pretty well to do a little more,” to use the Huckster in Chief’s well worn phrase, and meanwhile the do-nothings who contribute zero to our society get to keep sucking on the socialist teat. And this is what we want, as a country. This is what we voted for

Our children’s futures are wasting away in front of our eyes, and nobody gives a damn, as long as we can keep injecting those sweet, sweet government benefits into our bloodstream. Just close your eyes and feel the calm wash over you, and try not to think about the small child gasping for air at your feet.

Ahhhh. Doesn’t it feel good, folks?


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And if RINO’s who side with Kim Roy don’t like me harassing him, well tough luck, he’s doing the same thing to my friends.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:07 AM

Her.

And it’s one person, Honda, that I respond with “FOAD, Obama voter” once when it comes and posts one of its hysterical screeds. You sure have a wide restriction on “harassment”. Noted that you don’t bother to admitting it when you are called to prove your “harassment” claim. I have a strong feeling that HA management would probably laugh at you, too, if you were to complain.

It’s nice, however, that you respect an Obama voter and wish to make an issue of it.

I’m not going to respond to you any further because you are a silly clown. It’s way more funner to laugh at you.

“Harass” away.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 3:18 AM

In ’10 I voted Republican down the line on my ballot on the condition that the GOP would keep it’s promises to and embrace the tea party. They lied, I’m done, good riddance to RINO scum.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:19 AM

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:15 AM

You are a kook..But you know that..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 3:22 AM

First, I didn’t say Romney.

He was the guy chosen to represent the GOP. From that I make the crazy assumption that Romney, Boehner, and McConnell represent the GOP.

Third, do you really think that RINOs and/or “neo-conservatives” are our problem, or does the problem lie with the 50% of our population that thinks “free stuff” exists?

I think the “free stuff” voters vote for politicians who will give them what they want on both sides.

Not waiting around for you to answer the question above, but I don’t believe your ideal politician exists. Even if he did, he’d have a heck of a time getting elected.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:17 AM

Reagan wasn’t perfect and he wasn’t a figment of my imagination either.

sharrukin on January 2, 2013 at 3:23 AM

And if RINO’s who side with Kim Roy don’t like me harassing him, well tough luck, he’s doing the same thing to my friends.

FloatingRock

I will name him Honda, and I will hug him and pet him and squeeze him. And pat him and pet him, and rub him and caress him.

xblade on January 2, 2013 at 3:24 AM

G’nite.

RedCrow on January 2, 2013 at 3:17 AM

Enjoyed it friend..Later..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 3:30 AM

xblade on January 2, 2013 at 3:24 AM

rofl..:)

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 3:31 AM

And it’s one person, Honda, that I respond with “FOAD, Obama voter” once when it comes and posts one of its hysterical screeds.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 3:18 AM

What you call hysterical screeds are usually far more insightful than any of the crap that you have written. If you disagree then you are welcome to attack peoples arguments but when you attack them personally and chase from thread to thread, day after day, week after week, you are in violation of the terms of service as I understand them. You won’t be the first to get banned for such behavior. I often agreed with Wise_man, (well, maybe not often), but I did not support banning him until after the election when he couldn’t let go and started harassing people and getting personal, for example your constant use of “FOAD”.

I think that it’s you that should FOAD, Kim Roy, and I believe precedent backs that up. Honda is within the terms of service, I haven’t parsed through all of the interactions between you two but from what I can tell you are usually the only one who is on the attack. Honda doesn’t seem to respect you enough to bother to respond.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:32 AM

I will name him HondaKim Roy, and I will hug him and pet him and squeeze him. And pat him and pet him, and rub him and caress him.

xblade on January 2, 2013 at 3:24 AM

Reversed

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:42 AM

why don’t you retards STFU?

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 AM

why don’t you retards STFU?

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 AM

I will if he does, that’s the point I’m trying to get across to him so thank you for expressing your irritation.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 4:00 AM

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 AM

And my apologies to innocent bystanders.

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 4:02 AM

I honestly don’t see any purpose in blaming Rs..or Boehner. As a country we are who we are. Rs lost badly in 2012.

r keller on January 1, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Idiot, the RINO Leadership acceded to this ‘fiscal cliff’ chicanery over 18mos ago! They willingly and stupidly put their own necks in this marxist-contrived noose then did nothing as it tightened.

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 4:04 AM

as you can see, I’m far from innocent. My complaint is don’t sit there in ‘I know I am but what are you?’ pissing matches. Somebody says something ignorant or trolling, smash’em, but don’t get bogged down in it. Drive on.

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 4:06 AM

went against their party. 85 republicans vs 16 democrats

2-1 repubs said the bill sucked. Dems voted for it about 10-1.

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 4:13 AM

I haven’t parsed through all of the interactions between you two but from what I can tell you

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 3:32 AM

Please don’t practice law. Your clients can’t afford it.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 4:14 AM

I wonder if there’s some way to instantly vanquish our unwelcome visitors that doesn’t require transmuting fire or getting Spark his own fairy . . .

Axe on January 2, 2013 at 2:51 AM

ROTF. Hey I invented a non-stick coating that won’t even stick to a frying pan so you can work on the fire thingy.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 4:23 AM

Please don’t practice law. Your clients can’t afford it.

kim roy on January 2, 2013 at 4:14 AM

Are you a lawyer?

FloatingRock on January 2, 2013 at 4:28 AM

The morning crew will be here soon. KJ will have another good read and cmsinaz will tell us what the MSM Libs are saying on the morning show.

Maybe flora will visit us.

B9 too.

Grace wasn’t here tonight so she missed the Scrumpster.

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 4:48 AM

lsm sure is giddy this am….dear leader refuses to negotiate on the debt ceiling…already blaming the gop if the ceiling does not rise….

the gop racked up the bills? ahem, who’s been in charge the last 4 years?

must have been joe biden…

cmsinaz on January 2, 2013 at 5:35 AM

SparkPlug on January 2, 2013 at 4:48 AM

morning spark…coffee coming up

cmsinaz on January 2, 2013 at 5:36 AM

i really didn’t have to see his mug on the top of drudge…

*sigh*

cmsinaz on January 2, 2013 at 5:38 AM

cripe, so the lsm will spike the football today for dear leader go with the ‘is john boehner a weak speaker’ meme all day long…

*sigh*

cmsinaz on January 2, 2013 at 5:52 AM

We of course believe that the national debt must be reduced, and certainly don’t believe that should be done by raising taxes, nor, obviously, by raising Federal spending.

These crooks are fine with both.

A co-worker told me some years ago about an episode on The Sopranos where one of the gangsters presented his boss with several thousand in cash paid back from loansharking. The boss yelled at him and said something to the effect, “What the hell are you doing? Get that money back onto the streets! We’re not making any money with it sitting here!”

So, if they ever really do reduce the national debt, a hell of a lot of concerns here and abroad will be hurt because they’re making mucho dinero off of the debt interest foisted upon us by Washington.

Follow the money…

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 2, 2013 at 6:00 AM

I’m just plain disgusted. My take.

kingsjester on January 2, 2013 at 6:48 AM

kingsjester on January 2, 2013 at 6:48 AM

ditto

i feel like charlie and the gop elite is lucy with the football….

Happy New Year KJ

cmsinaz on January 2, 2013 at 7:04 AM

cmsinaz on January 2, 2013 at 7:04 AM

Happy New year to you!

I notice that the usual suspects are on this thread, telling us that this surrender by the Republican Jello Caucus is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

kingsjester on January 2, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Now we get to go through the process again in two months plus the debt ceiling is coming up. Wonder how long it will take boner to cave on that…..Maybe zero will agree to cut his travel budget from 1.4 billionto 1.39999 billion.Now that’s a cut.

rodguy911 on January 2, 2013 at 7:10 AM

If the House Republicans — who failed at every level — had conceded that there were going to be tax increases and formulated a negotiating position demanding spending cuts in return, they might have have won something. Instead, they staked out an irresponsible and indefensible position and — after a few hours of public impotence — lost everything. Even I’m a little appalled at how miserably they performed.

urban elitist on January 2, 2013 at 7:17 AM

When will The Gods of The Copybook Headings begin to stir?

trigon on January 2, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Yepper KJ

cmsinaz on January 2, 2013 at 7:34 AM

A freakin land invasion from the entire Chinese army wouldn’t dick us over as bad as what we have done to ourselves by our dumb as a stump political class.

SparkPlug on January 1, 2013 at 9:22 PM

You encouraged this by voting. You really have no excuses aka you allowed this to happen

DevilsPrinciple on January 2, 2013 at 7:36 AM

If the House Republicans — who failed at every level — had conceded that there were going to be tax increases and formulated a negotiating position demanding spending cuts in return, they might have have won something. Instead, they staked out an irresponsible and indefensible position and — after a few hours of public impotence — lost everything. Even I’m a little appalled at how miserably they performed.

urban elitist on January 2, 2013 at 7:17 AM

I’ll concede that you’re someone who’s on drugs and has never really looked at a CBO budget analysis. There have NEVER been any substantive cuts in Federal budgets that had any real meaning.

In the future, you may confine your remarks to sugar plum fairy fantasies that you undoubtedly, have.

DevilsPrinciple on January 2, 2013 at 7:43 AM

Is it time for an aggressive marketing campaign by the conservatives to get a message out to the public?

How about starting with a list of Leftist supporters of Obysmal and the Dems who will have avoided a tax bite via the terms of this fiscal cliff “deal”?

onlineanalyst on January 2, 2013 at 7:58 AM

I’ll concede that you’re someone who’s on drugs and has never really looked at a CBO budget analysis. There have NEVER been any substantive cuts in Federal budgets that had any real meaning.

In the future, you may confine your remarks to sugar plum fairy fantasies that you undoubtedly, have.

DevilsPrinciple on January 2, 2013 at 7:43 AM

Are you saying, then, that there never can be?

urban elitist on January 2, 2013 at 7:59 AM

How about beginning with a solid list of cuts that prevent the nation from giving Obysmal another credit card extension via the debt ceiling?

How about beginning legislation that replaces the income tax amendment with one that gives every citizen some “skin in the game”

How about initiating an amendment that gives the power to choose members of the Senate back to the states? Let’s make that belief in federalism a reality. We have a strong bench of Republican governors who could promote the idea.

onlineanalyst on January 2, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Our crisis is political, not economic. Politics is ultimately a moral exercise, no matter what it deals with. Leaders are stewards of our social patrimony. What we see in Washington today is not gridlock. It is collapse. It is the final triumph of political theater over political reality, of ignorance over reasoned governing, of self-interest over principle. A $12 trillion economy and 230-plus-year history can survive a great deal of abuse and neglect. But history proves no state is immune from the self-inflicted idiocy of its leaders or people. Just how long we will survive in this state is now a proposition fully engaged. It is the great social experiment of the 21st century.

True, that.

The top offers no solution as it is the problem.

To reign in the top requires that its collapse be allowed to happen, that its promises be shown to be false, that its leaders shown up to the blatant lies they espouse.

The solution is as it ever has been under this contractual agreement from the governed to its governors, but it requires that exposure of deceit and power grab FIRST before the contract gets put forth in more assertive manner. Thus it was with Ethelred the Unready, Henry I seeking solution after massive expansion of government, the imposed changes upon John I, and then the brink of horror under James II. The final piece was under George III and the Declaration contains within it the list of abuses that requires the political breaking of a people with their government.

Read that portion well as almost no one bothers to so loving the first few lines: it is in the bulk of the Declaration that the actual meat is put on the bones and if you cannot identify the meat then no matter how lovely the bones you have missed the point.

Your job and duty, as always in such times, is to hold fast to your knowledge that self-government is the best government, that no external government will ever create a good person, and that your upholding and passing on such beliefs that have been fully tested by history allows for a more perfect understanding amongst men and that perfection is ever barred from those who live in Nature’s world.

It is back to basics.

Food.

Guns.

Ammo.

Prepare yourself to be a help to others who can join with you in rebuilding. There are many times of horror and tears to come, those who say otherwise are in pure delusion as to what man is and the evil that prospers when man signs his liberty away for no security at all. If you do not see such things coming to pass now, at this late date, then I am truly sorry for the world you are about to go through and I can be of no help to you during such times. If, truly, God helps those who help themselves, then those placing dependence upon government are of no use to pass through such times as they will not do more than help themselves in the worst way: by coercive theft via government. Unable to be a help to others, they destroy the goodness and trust in society around them. I am not mad nor angry at same, but sad and pity them… such pity no longer extends to a helping hand as they refuse to help themselves create a better life and think it all must be bestowed upon them.

Do not worry about the dollar, it is a mere representation of your liberty and others debase that in your name. It is their hatred of liberty and YOU that causes them to do that and spend in such manner. Return that not with hate, but with understanding that they are killing themselves by doing this and creating a vacuum where their soul used to be. Stop accepting ‘help’ from government programs and start the long, slow and hard disconnect from as much as you can: you will be the new pioneer in the desolate frontier ahead and your wisdom, gained now, will help many good people to survive.

Your duty is to protect your life which is allowed for and sustained by your liberty which gives you freedom. That is a Natural Right, a Moral Right, and a duty to freely chosen government which you back. And that government starts with yourself, not with the State. This is, by far, the hardest of all duties, that necessary one to protect your liberty and freedom. No outside government CAN DO THAT FOR YOU. Only you can do that FOR YOURSELF this protection of your own governance, your liberty, your freedom, your family, and the products of your life and liberty all of which flow from your Natural Right which is inalienable to each person as an individual.

Our schools, rotted and an ancient institution that needs to die. Send no children to them, and utilize the new means to teach at home with others who are like-minded.

Universities are corrupted by apparatchiks and overburdened by them to the point where they can no longer teach without politics and agenda. Manual arts, however, are devoid of such as to run a machine tool, to weld, to build with masonry, to fit pipes… all are beyond politics and yet are necessary to sustain infrastructure for each of us. Hard work is its own reward and, now with so few to do it, lucrative as well since the elites disdain such skills and those who perform them.

Each and every choice in your personal life will determine your course and survival, and that of your like minded fellow man. Continue to point out that even at this late date, that admitting our folly and mending our ways can still save us, but that the lies, deceit, and destructive underpinnings must first be admitted to and that no matter who is ‘helped’ by them, we all lose because of them. Place no faith in politicians who, like diapers, need to be changed frequently and for the same reason as well. The deluded will always be with us, or at least as long until their own lives are consumed by that which they create and then their screams of horror and shock are to be remembered and passed down: they created their own destruction happily and we should never do the same.

Failure for government? A simple though often bloody remedy.

Failure of a people? A time of winnowing brings necessary horror which you do try to stop, but which the happy ones who embrace horror will not see until the blade is for them.

Only YOU can fail YOU. Are you prepared to live free or die trying? Are you prepared to be a help and service to others who are looking for the way out in the times ahead? Are you willing to admit to folly that has been done in your name and no longer support it and to let others know that it IS folly at every turn and yet with a smile and an open hand as a clenched fist gathers no friends? These are duties you gain by being free and having liberty and they are not easy ones, but the most difficult of all. Defending your life is one thing… leading a good one that depends not on government beyond that which you create is something else, again.

ajacksonian on January 2, 2013 at 8:22 AM

why don’t you retards STFU?

rayra on January 2, 2013 at 3:54 AM

lol, nice bit of clarity, Sir!

Some of these folks need to get a room ;-)

cane_loader on January 2, 2013 at 8:49 AM

davidk on January 2, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Soetoro wasn’t born; he was hatched.

cane_loader on January 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Our children’s futures are wasting away in front of our eyes, and nobody gives a damn, as long as we can keep injecting those sweet, sweet government benefits into our bloodstream. Just close your eyes and feel the calm wash over you, and try not to think about the small child gasping for air at your feet.

Why would anyone expect the moochers and takers to give a flying fig about the future of our children when they are all for abortion on demand and the killing of millions of futures that go along with it. We lost the battle of it’s for the children a long time ago. The libs flog that to death every time they use it to take more of what we would like to keep.

Kissmygrits on January 2, 2013 at 8:58 AM

davidk on January 2, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Soetoro wasn’t born; he was hatched.

cane_loader on January 2, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Heh. I’m just trying to stir things up this morning. One way or another.

davidk on January 2, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Thanks, Rayra, I was wondering how long it would take dear leader to return to the links in HI quality family time for the remainder of his vacay. Did he sign the bill before jogging up the stairs of AF1?

Kissmygrits on January 2, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Of course, in the end the enemy is us

No. The enemy is the media. The media, through ignorance or perversion, continues to support Obama in his pretence that our economic woes can be solved by increasing taxes without addressing our spending and entitlement crisis.

The average voter believes the media. The average Obama supporter is too ignorant to care, believing the government will keep providing free stuff from Obama’s “stash” forever without consequence. So here we are, with insufficient political will to solve this critical problem.

talkingpoints on January 2, 2013 at 9:53 AM

We wouldn’t have any of these problems if the media and government weren’t the same thing.

Spliff Menendez on January 2, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Dire Straits on January 2, 2013 at 2:17 AM

You are wrong in two regards:

1. I am not depressed.
2. Nor am I on the rail.

I just watch the stupid world, with lots of Schadenfreude.

This situation is all self-inflicted, by the moronic populace, which doesn’t realize its demise, while Obama is back to HI, laughing his charlatanic head off at the fools.

Schadenfreude on January 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

II Timothy 3

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.

6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over gullible women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, 7 always learning but never able to come to a knowledge of the truth. 8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these teachers oppose the truth. They are men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected. 9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone.

tom daschle concerned on January 2, 2013 at 1:50 PM

What the black Jesus wants. Spend spend spend till it all crashes. Then the totalitarians take over. No shots fired.

I wouldn’t count on that “No shots fired thingy.”

Hammie on January 3, 2013 at 10:40 AM

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