Obama: Say, there was a little “sloppiness” in State Department security, huh?

posted at 11:01 am on December 31, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

“Sloppiness”?  Via Fausta, NBC’s David Gregory elicited the presidential understatement of the year in his big interview with Barack Obama on Meet the Press yesterday.  Amazingly — or really, not — Gregory let it pass:

GREGORY: Let me ask you about a couple of foreign policy notes. After the attack in Benghazi, is there a need for more accountability so that this doesn’t happen again? And do you know who was behind the attack at this point?

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Two points. Number one, I think that Tom Pickering and Mike Mullen who headed up the– the review board did a very thorough job in identifying what were some severe problems in diplomatic security. And they provided us with a series of recommendations. Many of them were already starting to be implemented. Secretary Clinton has indicated that she is going to implement all of them.

What I’ve– my message to the State Department has been very simple. And that is we’re going to solve this. We’re not going to be defensive about it. We’re not going to pretend that this was not a problem. This was a huge problem. And we’re going to implement every single recommendation that’s been put forward.

Some individuals have been held accountable inside of the State Department and what I’ve said is that we are going to fix this to make sure that this does not happen again, because these are folks that I send into the field. We understand that there are dangers involved but, you know, when you read the report and it confirms what we had already seen, you know, based on some of our internal reviews; there was just some sloppiness, not intentional, in terms of how we secure embassies in areas where you essentially don’t have governments that have a lot of capacity to protect those embassies. So we’re doing a thorough-going review. Not only will we implement all the recommendations that were made, but we’ll try to do more than that. You know, with respect to who carried it out, that’s an ongoing investigation. The FBI has sent individuals to Libya repeatedly. We have some very good leads, but this is not something that, you know, I’m going to be at liberty to talk about right now.

Ahem.  Obama conducted an unauthorized war against Moammar Qaddafi that decapitated the regime the previous year, which gave free reign to networks of Islamist terrorists in eastern Libya.  That was no secret; in fact, it was pretty well known that those “militias” participated in the uprising we enabled.  There had been a series of attacks on Western interests by these networks in 2012 before the September 11th attack that killed four Americans, including a few attempts on Americans before that.  Despite all this data, State deliberately dismissed military security for the consulate and insisted it could rely on local militias for security.

And this is “just some sloppiness, not intentional”?  Thank goodness Obama had to face a real journalist when giving that answer.  The follow-up to that must have been blistering, no?  Er … no:

GREGORY: In the politics, in the back and forth in this, do you feel like you let your friend Susan Rice hang out there to dry a little bit?

I’m sure he followed up on it after the Susan Rice question, right?  Right? Er … no:

GREGORY: You have another series of cabinet choices to make. Former Senator Chuck Hagel has come under criticism for some comments he’s made including about a former ambassador nominee during the Clinton years that being gay was an inhibiting factor to being gay to do an effective job. Is there anything about Chuck Hagel’s record or statements that’s disqualifying to you should you nominate him to run the Defense Department?

Is David Gregory a real journalist?  YMMV.

Update: Jennifer Rubin wasn’t impressed, either:

David Gregory’s Sunday interview with President Obama was typical of the softball, ineffective mainstream media encounters with the president we’ve been seeing. We can argue whether media personalities are bad at their job or intentionally inept, but the result is the same.


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I wonder what future sloppiness will result if O intervenes in Syria and more in the Persian Gulf region. The whole area is a powder keg, and I’m not sure the Administration knows whether the fuse is lit or not.

Liam on December 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Have Bill Clinton or Chelsea Clinton made any statements lately about Hillary’s condition? What hospital is she supposed to be in?

TarheelBen on December 31, 2012 at 12:24 PM

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:17 PM

It does sound dubious. I’m merely pointing out that a lot of people pick and choose their ‘dubious’ events to ensure they align entirely with their political ideology.

The same people who will tell you that there is zero evidence that 9/11 was anything other than an honest mistake and no one had any insight at all into it, will tell you that Benghazi was an elaborate failed attempt to kidnap a US ambassador and exchange him for the Blind Sheikh.

It’s a bit like lefties. They claim he is simultaneously the dumbest man ever to hold the Presidency and the darkest genius in modern history.

CorporatePiggy on December 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

With the combination of an 0bama and a Clinton, does anyone at all think they are giving us the straight-up truth about why Hillary couldn’t testilie?

I could fully see the Sec’y of State on a secret mission to Iran.

I could also see a landing accident in turbulence.

I could also see why the U.S. government might cover something like that up.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Solaratov on December 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Tyrannical swine don’t believe in the 1st, the 2nd and the 4th.

Schadenfreude on December 31, 2012 at 12:26 PM

CorporatePiggy on December 31, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Well, it would obviously come down to witnesses. Someone would have treated Hillary in Iran or in Germany.

And the Russian GRU report is coming from somewhere.

I see smoke… not sure if there’s fire.

Just very interesting conjuctions of events.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

LOL @ all the people alleging a conspiracy involving Hillziller, the Seal Commander, Iran, and a pending war.

There will be an official version of what is going on with Hillary and what happened to the SEAL commander. Will you buy it, or dismiss it out of hand as if it were one of the many flavors of 9/11 trutherism, JFK trutherism, etc.?

CorporatePiggy on December 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM

9/11 was quite different. We watched the whole think happen before our eyes.

The Hitlery tale is being played out behind the scenes and there are many conflicting stories and a lot of legitimate questions about what is really going on.

This is just like the ending of the movie “Dave.” Maybe the 0bama regime is searching for a Hitlery look-alike who can stand in for a while until they can come up with a good story about what happened to her..

UltimateBob on December 31, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Another eutimes exclusive

BallisticBob on December 31, 2012 at 12:27 PM

DANG!

And I ran out of tinfoil!!!!

Hey, as long as Hillary makes it out of the hospital and gets to testilie, I don’t care about any plane crash.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM

What hospital is she supposed to be in?

She is in a hospital in NY per Fox news.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/30/secretary-clinton-in-hospital-with-blood-clot-stemming-from-concussion/
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letget on December 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM

I remember Ron Browns timely death and the fake tears of then president Clinton.
As I recall the photo, he was laughing after the funeral while walking and talking, noticed the camera, changed his expression, and began wiping the phony tears…..
They got rid of the man who knew too much, then put their arms around his son, and held him very close.

Delsa on December 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

That is exactly the way I remember it, too.

UltimateBob on December 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM

I don’t for a minute think that if Sec’y Clinton was on a mission and diverted purposely to Iran for talks, that that wouldn’t have been kept secret.

It could also be bad luck if the plane had a hard landing and she was injured.

Things do happen.

As long as she appears and answers the questions, it’s all good.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Perhaps Mr. Obama needs enact a “Sloppiness” ban before he does anything else.

MessesWithTexas on December 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM

She is in a hospital in NY per Fox news.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/12/30/secretary-clinton-in-hospital-with-blood-clot-stemming-from-concussion/
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letget on December 31, 2012 at 12:29 PM

If it’s in NY, shouldn’t The Journal News be publishing a map with a pin on the address?

Tim_CA on December 31, 2012 at 12:32 PM

And by the way, folks, I’m not just trying to stir up conspiracy.

There’s just been a lot of mystery lately about Hillary’s whereabouts, including the over-the-top, accusatory State Dept. statement about her supposed vacation to the Dom. Rep.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:33 PM

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:09 PM

SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Damn browser.

Ok lets look at what was actually said in that article.

Report says the plane deviated suddeny toward Ahvaz. This doesn’t rule out an in-flight emergency. Doesn’t rule it in, either.

Any flight that occurred at that time period that Hillary Clinton was on, was indisputably a covert mission since Hillary wasn’t publicly acknowledged to be in the Middle East but was purportedly here in the United States preparing to testify before congress.

Since an important aspect of any covert mission is to keep the destination secret, and all aircraft in or around combat zones MUST file a flight plan or face a very serious risk of being shot down, a sudden deviation in the flight plan would be mandatory since the destination filed in the official flight plan would not be the actual destination.

Other report about unknown other plane the same week says landing-gear collapsed from hard landing in turbulence. This doesn’t rule out in-flight emergency, but it’s curious that the turbulence that caused the damage occurred during the landing.

There is nothing profoundly out of the ordinary for turbulence to cause an aircraft to crash on it’s landing approach. However, a hard landing that collapses the landing gear and results in fatalities is not called a landing, it is referred to as a crash.

This means that it’s possible that the flight deviated to Ahvaz – unscathed – for unknown reasons – and had a run-of-the-mill landing accident.

Ahvaz has been listed as a place Ahmadinejad has used for meetings, etc.

So,.. we can either think conspiracy to kill Clinton due to upcoming testifying

No, it means that the flight did not “Deviate” to Ahvaz, Ahvaz was it’s actual destination, this of course is predicated upon Hillary Clinton actually being on-board that aircraft.

Ahmadinejad and Hillary Clinton accidentally ending up at the exact same out of the way airport is 100 percent impossible. For them to both arrive at the same obscure out of the way airport within hours of each other could only be a result of careful planning.

Within seconds of the C-12 Huron crashing, this report continues, Iranian emergency and security personal responded freeing the victims, including Secretary Clinton who was reportedly unconscious and “bleeding profusely.”

After emergency aid was given, GRU agents stationed in Iran state that another US military flight was dispatched from Bahrain to Ahwaz which evacuated all of those wounded and killed in the crash including Secretary Clinton.

If this is true, it is further evidence that the Iranians were expecting Hillary Clinton, meaning that this was not an attempt to kill Hillary, but a covert meeting between Hillary and Ahmadinejad that was sanctioned at the highest levels of both government, otherwise an American Military aircraft would have never been allowed into Iranian Airspace to collect the causalities and survivors, the Iranian Government would have trotted them out in public claiming to have shot down a US spying mission.

SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 12:33 PM

That is exactly the way I remember it, too.

UltimateBob on December 31, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Me too.

The whole Brown death was odd…. about the airport beacon giving out the wrong coordinates… amid the Balkans mess.

And yes, Clinton was caught laughing at the funeral. Not that people don’t occasionally laught at funerals.

I also have no idea why the Sec’y of Commerce would be flying to the Balkans during a war. But it is what it is.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:35 PM

SWalker:

From the airliners dot net comments.

And these folks are non-political pilots. etc. I trust their comments.

The aircraft had a mechanical while exercising its rights to transit over Iran under Article 5 of the Chicago Convention. That places certain responsibilities on the State where the aircraft lands. If the aircraft suffered a mechanical problem in flight and was in “distress”, Article 25 of Chicago puts a duty on States to assist those aircraft both in air and on ground. It is a common enough occurrence that an aircraft gets stuck in an “unfriendly” State because of a mechanical problem. When that happens, the State has obligations it must meet or face possible ICAO sanctions.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Is “tongue-bath” acceptable on this site?

ss396 on December 31, 2012 at 12:39 PM

No, it means that the flight did not “Deviate” to Ahvaz, Ahvaz was it’s actual destination, this of course is predicated upon Hillary Clinton actually being on-board that aircraft.

Due to the above-quoted Article 25, yes the plane could have deviated to Ahvaz, even if Clinton were heading somewhere else, the way I read it.

Where the threads fray is where it’s said that turbulence upon landing caused a main-gear collapse.

That would seem to indicate that there was no emergency until the landing. If so, then yes, the plane was purposely heading to Ahvaz.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:40 PM

THIS is what the traitorous media won’t ask ANY POLITICIAN about.

And why wouldn’t David Gregory let it go “slopiness” indeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=blXkl9YVoHo

In 2013, Obama will be the DOTUS just like he was in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, etc.

PappyD61 on December 31, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Anyhow, weird news all around.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Key question – which hospital did Hillary check into after her concussion – and when?

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:43 PM

SWalker:

I have to take the eutimes article with a big grain of salt, after reading that UFO story.

I do not believe that people were killed, and yet the plane is repairable and flyable within 3 weeks.

I could believe that people were injured during a main-gear collapse, either by not belting in (as high-level people sometimes don’t do) or by being bonked in the head by falling luggage, falling ceiling panels, etc., and the plane repairable.

We need to separate the wheat from the chaff.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Of course we’re left with the disparity that one source calls the plane a Falcon-900, and another a C-12.

Two planes – same week – both planes repaired and flown out.

The runway in Ahvaz must suck.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Googled Earthed Ahvaz, Iran.

One runway… not too big a town… Just north of the Gulf and east of Iraqi border.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Anyway, tinfoil hat off. Got work to do.

Have a Happy New Year, everyone!

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:51 PM

SWalker:

I have to take the eutimes article with a big grain of salt, after reading that UFO story.

I do not believe that people were killed, and yet the plane is repairable and flyable within 3 weeks.

I could believe that people were injured during a main-gear collapse, either by not belting in (as high-level people sometimes don’t do) or by being bonked in the head by falling luggage, falling ceiling panels, etc., and the plane repairable.

We need to separate the wheat from the chaff.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Interestingly enough, that eutimes article is now no longer available. However, as I pointed out, everything in that article is 100 percent predicated on Hillary actually being on that aircraft.

That article also made the assertion that Ahmadinejad had landed at the same airport just hours prior to the hard landing/crash that Hillary was purported to be involved in.

Are the eutimes a reliable source of information, absolutely not, but as The National Inquirer proved in the case of John Edwards, publicans like the eutimes sometimes do get it right.

SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 12:54 PM

This is silly. Hillary will testify sooner or later. Shes used to hostile questioning. She’ll eat the GOP questioners for lunch, assisted by the MSM. These are the Clintons, folks. As an indie, I know that you hate acknowledging it, but whenever the GOP goes against a Clinton, they’ve got their a** handed to them. Lol. Just don’t mess with them. Ultimately, they’ll win.

tommy71 on December 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM

God to speak at 1:30.

God damn all the fools.

Schadenfreude on December 31, 2012 at 12:56 PM

More interesting news……
http://naturalsociety.com/predictions-confirmed-shooter-adam-lanza-was-on-violence-linked-anti-psychotic-fanapt/

(I don’t know anything about naturalsociety.com)

Solaratov on December 31, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Some individuals have been held accountable inside of the State Department

liar

paulsur on December 31, 2012 at 1:00 PM

God to speak at 1:30.

And bho will blame the r’s and use ‘I’ every other word!
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letget on December 31, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Two points, the MSM are whores for Barry. And Barry couldn’t find his own ass given a map, compass, GPS or a set of written instructions.

GarandFan on December 31, 2012 at 1:09 PM

And I just thought shed fallen down while drunk?
Silly me.
Makes you think…..

Delsa on December 31, 2012 at 1:11 PM

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Interestingly enough, that eutimes article is now no longer available. However, as I pointed out, everything in that article is 100 percent predicated on Hillary actually being on that aircraft.

That article also made the assertion that Ahmadinejad had landed at the same airport just hours prior to the hard landing/crash that Hillary was purported to be involved in.

Ok it’s back up again, HA readers must have crashed their server, but here’s the quote I was referring to.

Within minutes of leaving Bahrain airspace, this report says, the C-12 Huron carrying Secretary Clinton and her US Navy Seal protectors, “without notice,” deviated from their assigned flight path heading, instead, directly towards Iran’s Ahwaz International Airport where, coincidentally, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had previously landed on an “unscheduled” visit.

SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM

And all of those who had a hand in this “huge problem” will be terminated, right?
This is just too funny, except that part (of course) where four people were killed due to the malfeasance of the overseers in Foggy Bottom.
Four Years, and Twenty Days more of this madness.

Another Drew on December 31, 2012 at 1:27 PM

What is it we’re always told about coincidence ? Or should I say too
many of them at one time .

Lucano on December 31, 2012 at 1:31 PM

SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 1:21 PM

My instinct is to use the broad parameters of the article, not to trust the details.

The “without notice” may mean that it wasn’t a scheduled stop.

This does not rule out an in-flight emergency.

But it also does not rule out a flight-plan deviation done secretly, with OK from the highest levels of Iranian gov’t.

The question remains – was there a crash?

We have independent reports now of a U.S. small plane damaged 3 weeks ago, repaired, and now flown out, said damage occurring at the same time as Hillary’s reported concussion.

As you say – the key factor is whether any reliable report ties Hillary to this aircraft.

The whole thing does stink.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 1:32 PM

What also stinks is the one report of the Seal committing suicide in Afghanistan, and the other report claiming he was killed on Sec’y Clinton’s plane.

Maybe the eutimes is just messing with everyone. If so, they are making up a conspiracy theory out of whole cloth, then.

But why would the plane landing/crashing in Ahvaz be covered up for three weeks, but then released on Yahoo? Yahoo is not known for making headline stories out of small-plane hard landings that don’t kill people.

This is all very weird.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 1:34 PM

As well, say Hillary was in a crash.

For three weeks now it’s been covered up.

No one can come out now and tell the truth.

The 0bama admin is stuck now with whatever story they told… just like with Rice & Benghazi.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 1:36 PM

As I recall the photo, he was laughing after the funeral while walking and talking, noticed the camera, changed his expression, and began wiping the phony tears…..

Delsa on December 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I remember

HotAirian on December 31, 2012 at 1:41 PM

LOL @ all the people alleging a conspiracy involving Hillziller, the Seal Commander, Iran, and a pending war.

There will be an official version of what is going on with Hillary and what happened to the SEAL commander. Will you buy it, or dismiss it out of hand as if it were one of the many flavors of 9/11 trutherism, JFK trutherism, etc.?

CorporatePiggy on December 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Disbelieving Hillary Clinton is hardly irrational behavior.

tom on December 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Just when you think he can’t possibly do or say anything less human, he does. What a friggin’ sociopath. God Bless America.

sgtstogie on December 31, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Disbelieving Hillary Clinton is hardly irrational behavior.

tom on December 31, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Disbelievin the Clintons and Barry H. Soetoro is

OPERANT CONDITIONING

a la B.F. Skinner.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Bumps in the road

Not optimal

A little unintentional sloppiness

Thank goodness that has been cleared up and, more importantly, that no one in the State Department lost his job. Try those excuses in that order if the boss calls you on the carpet.

Christien on December 31, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Where aer the 30 people that the CIA operatives saved? Who are they and what were they doing in Benghazi?

tom daschle concerned on December 31, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Odd how none of the trolls that are normally fluffing 0 showed up. Sloppy is optimal for them I guess. Still, trolls wipe off your chins, not a good look on anyone, even you. ; )

Bmore on December 31, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Who gave the ‘stand down’ order…?

Seven Percent Solution on December 31, 2012 at 3:09 PM

As in Watergate, it’s the cover-up that’s going to nail these people.
I guarantee that Hillary’s condition is wrapped up in lies, no matter its provenance.

cane_loader on December 31, 2012 at 3:20 PM

It was not sloppiness. It was unbelievable stupidity on top of incredible incompetence!

It was Hilliary’s ship and safety of Ambassadors was a top responsibility. She should be held accountable.

Chessplayer on December 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM

The art of understatement.

The art of insulting, callous buffoonery.

hillbillyjim on December 31, 2012 at 6:41 PM

And I just thought shed fallen down while drunk?
Silly me.
Makes you think…..

Delsa on December 31, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Or, try this one out: She had a cerebral venous thrombosis leading to a stroke and loss of consciousness. That’s why she “fainted”. The fall was a result, not a cause.

Her medical spokesman is denying that she has MR evidence of a stroke, but then these are the Clintons, and this is the already-selected next POTUS. Major medical fragility does not fit into the pre-written scenario for her presidency.

Not saying I believe this, but neither do I believe the LSM reporting of her illness either.

bofh on December 31, 2012 at 10:04 PM

….I don’t see the word ‘trial’ or ‘prison’ anywhere?

KOOLAID2 on January 1, 2013 at 2:45 AM

If only there were someone at the top – a person who was actually in charge of the State Department. Oh, wait … never mind.

If Bush were President while this happened (and it never would have happened) the MSM would not rest until he was wearing an orange jumpsuit.

Jeeeezus this assclown is an amateur. It’s only going to get worse.

baldylox on January 1, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Lets see, we have a Secretary of State with lock jaw, Rice fell on her sword still talking about a video and the POTUS saying we have been a little sloppy; All of this to save the person who didn’t make the call after seven hours of calling for help while the live feed was being piped into the White House situation room. If a witness can have all history wiped clean and new history established for a witness protection just imagine what can be done to protect our President.

mixplix on January 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

For the record. The trolls normally love sloppy seconds. What happened trolls?

Bmore on January 4, 2013 at 10:11 AM

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