Adios 2012
posted at 6:31 pm on December 30, 2012 by Jazz Shaw
New Years isn’t until Tuesday, but being “the weekend guy” this will likely be my final post of 2012 here. And as in years past, I’d hoped to share a few thoughts on what was clearly not the best year in history (at least from a political perspective).
Yeah… that whole election thing didn’t turn out very well. The employment situation was pretty dismal, with far too many of you either out of work, worried about keeping your jobs or seeing little in the way of improvement in your personal economic situations. The Pentagon is getting ready for more than 800,000 rolling layoffs. Countries around the world were embroiled in turmoil which continues to this day, leading to great uncertainty about the future. Our government shows absolutely no signs of doing anything productive to stop our slide into economic decline, either in the short term or the long term. A drought wiped out most of the corn crop and Mother Nature totally kicked out butts in a couple of places. If that wasn’t enough, Ed and I had to deal with the performance of both the Steelers and the Jets.
And don’t even get me started on the cancellation of Last Resort.
But even for all that, as James Tiberius Kirk once said while stranded in the heart of a dead asteroid, I always like to think there are possibilities. The general consensus seems to be that the US economy will slowly improve over the next few years… not because of the policies of Barack Obama, but in spite of them. We should all hope this is true, as we could certainly use some good news. There is also an assumption out there that these improvements will only go to benefit the Democrats in both the mid-terms and the next presidential election. I’m not so sure about that one. Even in defeat, the election did manage to spur a great national conversation about the economy, tax policy, growth and regulation. I, for one, think that form of forced education was worth all the effort and even the losses. Smarter people vote smarter, and continued voter education programs will still result in the election of representatives who are willing to do the hard work required for the nation’s future.
Or so I would wish.
We are a resilient people and a resilient nation. We always have been. Prospects for our future economic security may look fairly dismal at the moment, but these things tend to unfold in cycles. America always finds a way to fight its way back when we look like we’re down for the count. The only question is how far down we’ll have to go before that happens, but I still have to believe that it will. And with that positive thought, I’d like to thank all of you who spend time with us here at Hot Air week after week and participate in the discussion. We may not always see eye to eye, but it’s a refreshing chance to hash out the issues of the day and take part in the Great Experiment. And none of it would happen without you, so you have my gratitude. Happy New Year to all of you and may 2013 find us with fair winds and following seas.
And who knows… maybe another network will pick up Last Resort.
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First time ever here..
*clink* :)
wolly4321 on December 31, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Apparently.. the newest thing is that you cannot transfer money into IRAs.. Which is awesoe.because I just got a new job. So I’m screwed on this one. This really affects me so f’you Congress.
Illinidiva on December 31, 2012 at 9:49 PM
lol…you miss my point entirely.
What I’m telling you is…here you’re preaching to the choir.
99% (i.e. the non-nutjobs) who post here (that are from the genreation before yours) voted exactly like you would (assuming you’re smart)…they want YOU to have the same opportunities THEY did.
We/They have alot of skin in the game.
Tim_CA on December 31, 2012 at 9:49 PM
He did jack axe ;)
you probably won’t buy this or anything I provide but reading is fun, and knowing is half the battle so…
http://hightimes.com/entertainment/cbennett/3756
Slade73 on December 31, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Your just my lil bruda
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Yep.
Absolutely true, it’s possibly the most harmless drug used in the US.
Yeah, I blame that on catholic school.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 9:50 PM
If I have a water pistol or a nuclear bomb, what’s the difference?
5 pounds of pot won’t kill you. 5 pounds of coke will nuke your entire, extended family.
Not that I’m a prohibitionist or anything…..
Resist We Much on December 31, 2012 at 9:51 PM
Page 3 Bishop.. yep.. (struts)
wolly4321 on December 31, 2012 at 9:51 PM
double nickles
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 9:51 PM
She wants me to tell you that she puts her knickers on one leg at a time like you do:) Oh, did I mention that she is also one h@ll of a cook and can shoot to boot! Quite possibly one of the smartest women on the planet:) well except for marrying me, I mean who marries a poor farmer turned poor military guy?
MarshFox on December 31, 2012 at 9:51 PM
I have tried to tell my liberal ex-friends that what keeps many of us from cleaning up is moral restraint and the rule of law. I figure once they reach into my pocket, the moral restraint part is stretched pretty thin. If they wish to do away with the Law part by disavowing the Constitution, they may really, really not like the outcome when the conservatives decide, “Let’s Roll!”
rgranger on December 31, 2012 at 9:51 PM
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 9:28 PM
Husband will be 54 in September. I’ll be 43 in October. My husband likes robbing cradles. LoL
annoyinglittletwerp on December 31, 2012 at 9:32 PM
annoyinglittletwerp:
Yup,robbing da cradles was a old saying,remember it well.
And now,the Jihadys have taken that,a step tooooooooo far:)
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 9:51 PM
A couple hundred thousand dollars.
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 9:53 PM
From DownUnder…………..
Julia Gillard @JuliaGillard
It’s in the world’s interest that the US Congress joins President Obama to address the fiscal cliff comprehensively. JG
https://twitter.com/search?q=fiscalcliff
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 9:54 PM
Pistol shrimp?
Resist We Much on December 31, 2012 at 9:54 PM
If it could I’d have been dead by about 1982.
Tim_CA on December 31, 2012 at 9:54 PM
Yes , be careful what you wish for. That Obamacare ruling by Roberts based on taxation will one day come back to bite the left.
Notice the prof did not write this when the Dems had both houses and the Presidency. Weird./
CW on December 31, 2012 at 9:55 PM
double nickles
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 9:51 PM
*sigh* Am I the senior member here?
And if so, do I get discounts?
predator on December 31, 2012 at 9:55 PM
Wiz of Oz: “Hey, Don’t Look At Me! It’s Those Damn American Tea-Bagger’s Fault!”
M2RB: Bohemian Rhapsody from “Wayne’s World”
He may only be “Acting” Prime Minister and Treasurer, but I’m nominating Mr Swan for an Obama for his extraordinary performance in “Wayne’s World of Blame.”
Resist We Much on December 31, 2012 at 9:57 PM
No frikkin kiddin
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 9:57 PM
Touche.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 9:57 PM
Is this the QOTD?
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 9:58 PM
Beware the Pistol shrimp! (:
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM
No way, we give full credit for your time in service.
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM
In a manner of speaking…
Steve Eggleston on December 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM
U.S. Budget Compromise Deal Reached
Dec 31 2012-5Mins Ago
*********************
President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans sealed a budget deal late on the final day of the year to avert the fiscal cliff that would raise income-tax rates for the first time in nearly 20 years, maintain unemployment benefits to millions of people and extend a number of tax breaks for families of modest means.
The deal also delays for two months part of the $110 billion in spending cuts that otherwise would have taken place in early January.
Top Democratic lawmakers said the Senate would vote on the deal Monday night. The House could reconvene, or wait until Tuesday to vote. Passage in the House isn’t assured and could depend in part on the result in the Senate as well as the reaction to conservatives of the delay in spending cuts.
Any delay would mean the U.S. technically would go over the cliff when midnight strikes. With U.S. markets closed Tuesday, the impact of waiting one day could be minimal. What damage the wrangling has caused—to the 2013 tax-filing season and consumer confidence—is already assured.
According to officials on both sides, the key elements of the deal, developed during all-night negotiations between Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) and Vice President Joe Biden, include:
Permanently raising tax rates on income over $400,000 for individuals and $450,000 for couples filing jointly.
Raising taxes on capital gains and dividends for those households, from the current 15% to Clinton-era levels of roughly 20%.
Limiting the value of personal exemptions as well as the value of itemized deductions, two restrictions that would kick in at $250,000 for individuals and $300,000 for couples. Those limits disappeared in 2010.
Setting the estate tax rate at 40% on estates over $5 million, up from the 35% that applies now to those over $5.12 million. That isn’t as high as the 45% rate Mr. Obama sought with a $3.5 million exemption.
The deal doesn’t do much to control the U.S.’s long-term budget woes, which are driven largely by entitlement spending, especially on health care, which were left untouched in this agreement. And depending on the budget math and the ultimate fate of the spending cute, it may not do much for the short-run deficit either.
By waiting until the last minute, and by cutting a deal on a much smaller scale than either side once envisioned, Washington also deferred many of its thorniest questions for perhaps as little as a few weeks. In late February of early March, the Treasury Department will run out of extraordinary measures to deal with the government’s borrowing limit—which it reached on Monday—and Congress would need to approve an increase, setting up a new and potentially more dangerous deadline.
The changes in tax rates that were agreed to between Messrs. Biden and McConnell would raise roughly $600 billion in new revenue over 10 years. While that would represent the largest tax increase in decades, it would be less than 20% of the revenue that would have come in if policy makers allowed all the current tax breaks to expire on New Year’s Eve.
The Biden-McConnell deal is a classic compromise that included something for everyone to love—and hate. The key question is whether the positive components and the pressure of the Jan. 1 deadline are enough to neutralize the parts that raise objections. If not, attacks from the left and right could combine to topple the deal.
For Republicans, the bill includes the bitter medicine of the first income-tax rate increase since 1993, a violation of the anti-tax orthodoxy that has defined their party. On the other hand, it would codify the Bush-era lower income-tax rates for most Americans as permanent law, ending the recurring battles over how long they will endure.
For Democrats, the bill’s tax increase makes good on their party’s marquee promise in the 2012 election to raise taxes on upper-income Americans and not the middle class. But many Democrats, especially liberals, were infuriated that the bill set the income threshold as high as $450,000.
Heading into a meeting with Mr. Biden, Senate Democrats mostly declined to comment. Said Sen. Clare McCaskill, (D., Mo.): “Nobody’s happy—that means its probably a compromise.” Sen. Tom Harkin of Iowa gave a thumbs down. Sen. Barbara Boxer of California said she expects to support it.
“I’m believing we’ll get a big vote, which will help us in the House,” she said.
One sticking point in the talks has been automatic spending cuts, known as the sequester, which are set to take effect in coming days.
Republicans had insisted the cuts of $24 billion be offset with savings in other areas. The White House wants some of the offset to be in the form of tax increases, not just other spending cuts.
The deal pays for delaying the sequester with a mix of new taxes and spending cuts, according to a person familiar with the matter.
Other elements of the deal could be costly. It calls for a permanent fix to the alternative minimum tax, a one-year extension of unemployment insurance benefits, and a five-year extension of other tax breaks. Among them are tax credits for families of modest means, including one for college tuition, and an expanded earned income tax credit, which provides cash to working poor families who don’t earn enough to pay income taxes. It also would block a scheduled cut in Medicare payments to doctors for one year.
The deal taking shape also would include tax breaks adopted by the Senate Finance Committee earlier this year, aides with knowledge of the talks said. Among them was a one-year extension of the tax credit, with slight modifications that would allow wind-farm developers to claim the credit for projects that begin construction by Jan. 1, 2014.
Some Democrats and liberal activists said they believe the White House gave up too much, weakening Democrats’ position heading into next round of budget talks with Republicans. “It’s not a good deal if it gives more tax cuts to 2 percent and sets the stage for more hostage taking,” Richard Trumka, president of the AFL-CIO, said in a twitter message.
–Corey Boles, Patrick O’Connor and Siobhan Hughes contributed to this article.
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http://stream.wsj.com/story/the-fiscal-cliff/SS-2-87944/
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM
s’what I assumed….?
Tim_CA on December 31, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Allahpundit never said in the post who wrote this op-ed. Is it John Roberts?
Mark1971 on December 31, 2012 at 10:00 PM
For SWalker.
predator on December 31, 2012 at 10:00 PM
*clink*
Never judge a woman by who she marries. That’s my motto. One of them. If I had mottoes.
And never take her choices for granted, either. Just walk up and talk to the girl and see what she thinks. No telling what she’s going to think until she see’s you a bit. That’s another motto.
All my mottoes should be ignored since I’m stubbornly single.
No mottoes — that’s my primary motto. Or would be if it weren’t logically inconsistent.
Axe on December 31, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Happy. Happy. Happy!
txhsmom on December 31, 2012 at 10:01 PM
You could say that my friend, and then some, sailed a few of the seven seas in my day with salt spray on my cammies, I am the guy that gets off the boat though, just so you know:) Actually done a few amphibious landings, even in wartime, but we were just a decoy then. BTW just swore an oath to that document at the top of the thread right before I came home on leave, one more time into the breach I guess!
MarshFox on December 31, 2012 at 10:01 PM
Nope, so why don’t you go wait on the front page and when QOTD pops up come and get us? -_*
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:02 PM
2012 was 11 hours ago
DarkCurrent on December 31, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Ok will do.
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Is this the QOTD?
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 9:58 PM
SparkPlug:
Blasphemer,your gonna get stoned done good!
Oh,why yes,yes it is—————–:)
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Hm.
Axe on December 31, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Thanks for the great news. So Obama gets everything he wants (and more — now people making $450k pay 39.6%, but they also have their deductions limited), pro-liberty people get nothing they want, and republicans can pat themselves on the back for being bi-partisan.
Love it.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:04 PM
I got a page 3 Bishop, the ball should drop now.
(yea I’m drinking)
wolly4321 on December 31, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Ummm, my great great grandmother, great grandmother, grandmother and mom???
SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 10:05 PM
Get this outta da waaaay!
**************** HAPPY NEW YEAR H/A CREW *************************
With Love,from CANADA——————————————–:)
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:05 PM
New Year’s was last night people. Seriously, get a grip.
DarkCurrent on December 31, 2012 at 10:06 PM
Only on the dark side of the planet. :)
Happy New Year, agent of the Chinese government. Or the Guild of Chinese Mothers-in-law (not sure which yet, but I’m working it out).
Axe on December 31, 2012 at 10:06 PM
You forgot the 5 years of 50% of workers paying no income taxes, thus ensuring a top rate of 50% before too long.
Steve Eggleston on December 31, 2012 at 10:07 PM
You know what I don’t like about Canada? Not only are all the signs in Quebec in French (for godssake), but it always seems to be unbelievably cold.
But happy new year to you anyways
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Dude. I don’t even think that’s legal.
Axe on December 31, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Oh shit… I probably better not tell you the story of my first Tiger Cruise (when I was 14 or so) and the big plate of Shrimp, the ball bearings and the passageway to Marine country on the USS Denver… o_O
SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 10:08 PM
IOW, the Bo(eh)ning is almost complete. We’re just waiting for the transfer of the gavel.
Steve Eggleston on December 31, 2012 at 10:08 PM
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 9:59 PM
Thanks for the great news. So Obama gets everything he wants (and more — now people making $450k pay 39.6%, but they also have their deductions limited), pro-liberty people get nothing they want, and republicans can pat themselves on the back for being bi-partisan.
Love it.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Timin203:
Happy New Year Timin203,and WelCome Aboard the USS Hoy Air!
And,what else is there to say,you nailed it:)
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:08 PM
You’re f’ng kidding me by posting this thread? Hello? OVER THE RIVER AND OFF THE CLIFF, TO GRANDMOTHER’S PENSION we go, or something would be a better “gotcha” headline.
Who is John Galt on December 31, 2012 at 10:08 PM
I have realized that I am no longer a box jellyfish, because it seems that my true destiny is to be…a stonefish!
annoyinglittletwerp on December 31, 2012 at 10:09 PM
BWAHAHAHAH this is more my speed…
SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 10:09 PM
HAR DEE HAR HAR!!!
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Exciting. Because I’m mostly commission (which is paid in two forms: commission and bonuses), my money is withheld at a much higher rate then the rate I pay for the year. So while I get a big refund check (which I love, because it means uncle sam gets to keep my money, interest free, for a year), I really enjoy watching thousands of dollars deducted from my paycheck to pay for obamaphones and food stamps while half the country doesn’t have to deal with that pain.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:10 PM
the Bible says God gave us all plants to use.
Of course the Bible also says eating shellfish is equivalent to gay sex.
Maybe we shouldn’t place too much faith in a book manipulated by the Catholic Church and written by men who hear God in their heads. just sayin.
Slade73 on December 31, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Uhm, this is the QOTD. I proclaim it.
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:11 PM
Details of Tax Law Changes Spelled Out
December 31, 2012, 10:06 p.m. ET
*************************************
The tax changes included in the bill hashed out between the White House and congressional Republicans Monday includes the first increases in top income-tax rates in nearly two decades. They also set new thresholds for determining who is “rich,” while leaving most people’s tax rates unchanged.
“It appears nearly 99% of the population would see little or no change in their income taxes for 2013,” said Roberton Williams, an economist at the Tax Policy Center in Washington.
It is unclear how large tax increases will be for the 1%, he said, as important details have yet to be released. And the measure hashed out by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R., Ky.) and Vice President Joseph Biden still must be approved in both the Senate and the House, where passage can’t be assured.
For millions of wage earners, the most immediate effect would be the lapse of a two-percentage-point payroll-tax cut that was part of a deal President Barack Obama struck with Republicans late in 2010. It lowered to 4.2% from 6.2% the employee portion of the Social Security tax, allowing workers to keep more take-home pay.
For an individual earning the maximum 2013 cap of $113,700 or more, the increase would be nearly $200 per month. Overall, the expiration of this stimulus would cost working Americans $125 billion a year, according to J.P. Morgan Chase JPM +1.69% .
Beyond that, it will take up to four weeks after a bill is passed for many workers to know exactly what their 2013 take-home pay will be, according to Michael O’Toole, an official of the American Payroll Association, a group of 21,000 payroll managers.
The 2013 tax-filing season also is likely to be disrupted by Washington’s wrangling on deadline. In November, acting Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Steve Miller warned that the filing season would be delayed by several weeks. Normally the season opens in mid-January, but this year it may be delayed till mid-February or later.
As a result, many filers won’t be able to receive tax refunds as early as they normally do. “Congress’s delays have pushed back the repayment of interest-free loans to the government for millions of taxpayers,” said Lawrence Gibbs, a former IRS Commissioner now with the Miller & Chevalier law firm in Washington. The average refund is approaching $3,000, according to IRS data.
Here’s what is known about other provisions in the deal, with final details not yet available:
Income-tax rates. The top rate on ordinary income such as wages for joint filers earning more than $450,000 ($400,000 for single filers) would rise to 39.6%. Current law would be permanently extended for income earned below that level. Left unclear is whether the $450,000/$400,000 threshold refers to adjusted gross income (AGI) or taxable income. AGI doesn’t include subtractions for itemized deductions, while taxable income does.
The individual income tax is the government’s biggest single source of revenue, supplying nearly half the total.
Investment tax rates. For joint filers with income above $450,000 ($400,000 single), the top rate on long-term capital gains and dividends would rise to 20% from 15%. For taxpayers earning less than the thresholds, there would be a permanent 15% top rate on long-term capital gains and dividends, except perhaps for the lowest-bracket taxpayers, who currently have a zero rate.
Alternative minimum tax. The bill permanently and retroactively adjusts the alternative minimum tax to stop it enveloping more taxpayers than designed. The current fix expired at the beginning of 2012.
PEP and Pease provisions. The deal restores and makes permanent two backdoor tax increases for joint filers with incomes above $300,000 ($250,000 for singles).
When it was last in effect, the Personal Exemption Phaseout reduced or eliminated the value of personal exemptions for taxpayers earning more than the income threshold. The Pease provision—named after the late Rep. Donald Pease (D., Ohio)—reduced itemized deductions for taxpayers above a certain threshold. The formula’s net effect was to add a bit more than 1% to the top tax rate, says Mr. Williams of the Tax Policy Center, including the top rate on capital gains.
Estate and gift tax. The estate and gift tax exemption would remain $5 million or more per individual vs. the $3.5 million sought by President Obama. But the current 35% top tax rate on amounts above the exemption would increase to 40%.
Tax “extenders.” This term refers to several provisions that lapsed either at the beginning or the end of 2012. They would be extended for varying periods, and provisions that expired in early 2012 would be extended retroactively. Among these provisions are deductions for $250 of teachers’ classroom expenses; state sales taxes in lieu of state income taxes; tuition and related expenses; a conservation donation benefit; and the direct charitable contribution of up to $100,000 of IRA assets for people 70½ and older.
The deal would also extend for five years the American Opportunity Tax Credit; for many taxpayers this dollar-for-dollar credit is worth up to $2,500 and therefore the most valuable education benefit. And it would extend for five years the current versions of the Child Tax Credit and Earned Income Tax Credit, which are claimed by many lower-income workers making up to about $50,000.
Depreciation. A one-year extension of current “bonus” depreciation rules, which allow businesses to deduct up to 50% of the cost of a wide variety of property and equipment, excluding real estate. “This will be very helpful to a lagging economy,” says Don Williamson, an accountant who also heads the Kogod Tax Center at American University.
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323635504578214143016765544.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM
that was illegal at one time you know :)
just like Weed.
(yes, I’m steering the conversation)
Slade73 on December 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM
OR, maybe we shouldn’t take folks seriously who want to smoke perfectly good rope, paper or cloth… o_O
SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Yeah. Great. Sounds like another successful story of washington dc’s version of being bipartisan. Who could have seen that coming? :).
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Look. If everyone is going to start talking like SparkPlug, either give me a decoder ring or pass the pipe.
Axe on December 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Seriously you’re still in 2012?
DarkCurrent on December 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Happy New Year!!!!
To one and all!!
Glückliches neues Jahr
שנה טובה
Athbhliain faoi mhaise daoibh
С Новым годом
Šťastný Nový Rok
新年好
Felix Novus Annus
Bonne année
Feliz Año Nuevo
Manigong Bagong Taon
Ευτυχισμένο το Νέο Έτος
明けましておめでとうございます
Yeni Yılınız Kutlu Olsun
See you next year :-) God Bless each and every one of you…
Scrumpy on December 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM
JellyFish were popular in 2012. They are passe now. 2013 will be the year of the Crustacean.
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM
bah humbuuuuugh!
that’s the stuff that doesn’t have the “ingredient of awesomeness” THC
Slade73 on December 31, 2012 at 10:14 PM
Because I’m mostly commission (which is paid in two forms: commission and bonuses), my money is withheld at a much higher rate then the rate I pay for the year. So while I get a big refund check (which I love, because it means uncle sam gets to keep my money, interest free, for a year), I really enjoy watching thousands of dollars deducted from my paycheck to pay for obamaphones and food stamps while half the country doesn’t have to deal with that pain.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:10 PM
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:15 PM
LOL. Good one. OK, you are Penn and SWalker is Teller, just for the next hour. But then it switches back.
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:15 PM
I’m not saying I don’t appreciate you chumming the water (lots of good material there) and of course
is definitely an interesting topic… I just don’t feel like my hearts in it right now. I’m also being dragged out to the bar in an hour by my girlfriend, so I’m not sure I want to jump into anything too heavy.
Maybe I’ll get more into the vibe when someone says something outrageous.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:15 PM
RED ALERT ** RED ALERT
SCRUMPY SPOTTED ABOVE.
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:15 PM
I work for a pretty big corporation, they don’t give me too many choices in how I’m paid unfortunately.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Hey! What did we name your dog?
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:16 PM
annoyinglittletwerp on December 31, 2012 at 10:09 PM
You’ll be sacrificing the “reach” of a box jelly.
predator on December 31, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Lit up like an incandescent light bulb with a high resistance filament
DarkCurrent on December 31, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Then file married with 12 children. -_*
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:17 PM
I guess without the U.S. constitution we can officially declare the country dissolved, No need to have Washington D.C. and the federal government anymore either. Each state than can remain a individual country or can join with other like minded states to form a new union of states.
I doubt the progressives thought about that in their desire to get rid of the constitution and considering how things are going I wonder if that might not be a better path than our current path.
Happy New Year….
William Eaton on December 31, 2012 at 10:17 PM
JellyFish were popular in 2012. They are passe now. 2013 will be the year of the Crustacean.
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM
But I don’t wanna be a Crustacean, I wanna be a stonefish!
annoyinglittletwerp on December 31, 2012 at 10:18 PM
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:05 PM
You know what I don’t like about Canada? Not only are all the signs in Quebec in French (for godssake), but it always seems to be unbelievably cold.
But happy new year to you anyways
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Timin203:Sooooooooo true,BOINK the French I say,and yes,cold almost
for 8 months:)
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:18 PM
The StrawBerryPreservesFish is my favorite JellyFish.
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:18 PM
I’m assuming you didn’t read that AXE
It’s an endeavor so whatevs. Read it tomorrow after you’re not hung over anymore. Jesus used cannabis. It’s not a question, it’s a fact.
Slade73 on December 31, 2012 at 10:18 PM
2014 will be the year of the stonefish. (:
SparkPlug on December 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Heh. Not going to lie, I claimed 3 dependents this year and I’m not married, and I have no kids. Hasn’t made a huge difference. I should probably get together with an accountant and try to work out the numbers though.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:16 PM
His name was Sam I Am…lol… sad to say, he slipped his collar and hasn’t been seen since, I have been beside myself for days :-(
I hope someone as nice as me took him in, like I took him in…
Scrumpy on December 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Impying that Tobias Smollett is not my great great great great great great great great grandfather is an outrage!
kenny on December 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Call acab cause you caint drive
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Let see if I get this straight…
… Congress (Democrats Social Engineering) caused the mortgage crisis in the first place, as a result the world economy collapsed, Bush was blamed, the only way to fix it was the Trillion dollar STIMULUS (sold as a one time influx of cash), the STIMULUS was added to the ‘Base Line Budget’ by the Democrats ensuring that the national debt would increase every year by at least a Trillion dollars until it is removed, and now that we are at the end of the road, the only way to fix things is to raise our taxes?
I’m astonished to find that we are only $16.4 Trillion dollars in debt with $100 Trillion in unfunded liabilities…
… I’m sure the true numbers are rarely spoken.
Seven Percent Solution on December 31, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Kinda scary wasn’t it, we tend to be considered a little extreme of all the branches of services, but in the end I am quite sure you enjoyed it all. Hazing wasn’t considered a crime back then like it is now, they have so watered down some traditions that it is almost not worth doing them at this point, but it has been years since I have been at sea. They fly us everywhere now, one day your rolling downtown Sangin AFG, the next I am holding on to Mrs MarshFox(not her real name) as she is crying because I am am back(she is happy) I am guessing your family were Navy? I often time think that is where we went wrong. We need to get back to having a powerful Navy/MC patrolling the oceans, that threat if used right is a powerful deterrent.
MarshFox on December 31, 2012 at 10:20 PM
predator on December 31, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Yeah-but the stonefish’s vemon is stronger…or I could be a sea snake. Sea snakes are cute!
annoyinglittletwerp on December 31, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Yeni Yılınız Kutlu Olsun
See you next year :-) God Bless each and every one of you…
Scrumpy on December 31, 2012 at 10:13 PM
Scrumpy:And to you as well—-:)
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:20 PM
HYmmm, be careful twerp, Magic Eight Ball says… 2013 is going to be the year Stone soup makes a huge comeback…
SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Have fun bringing in the New Year where ever you are…
Good night all and again God Bless!!
Scrumpy on December 31, 2012 at 10:21 PM
I just have a hard time taking anyone named “scrumpy” seriously..
wolly4321 on December 31, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Yeah, trying to navigate montreal is a nightmare if you, like all real americans, do not read french. Luckily my car has a button to switch MPH to Km/h on the digital display, I can’t imagine driving through Canada without that. That being said, I go to canada pretty regularly, it is a really fun country. Even if it does seem to always be uncomfortably cold out.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:21 PM
Does it never occur to these leftist idiots that without the U.S. Constitution, the federal government has no authority over any of us? It doesn’t even exist at that point. Nitwits.
Oh… and every parent who ever paid tuition at Georgetown for that idiot’s class needs to press for a refund. Damn.
Murf76 on December 31, 2012 at 10:22 PM
If you’re making good money it is better to pay a small businessman to help you keep as much as possible away from thye den of thieves in DC. Jessayin
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Yeah, well, when you’re talking pretend numbers, it’s easy to lose track. It’s safe to say we are beyond the point where our debt has any realistic possibility of being paid back and where our future obligations have any realistic possibility of being fulfilled.
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Moreover seems rather small-minded from a woman of your alacrity
kenny on December 31, 2012 at 10:24 PM
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 9:36 PM
Let see if I get this straight…
… I’m sure the true numbers are rarely spoken.
Seven Percent Solution on December 31, 2012 at 10:20 PM
Seven Percent Solution:Straight it you got:)
Must you Shine the Light of Truth on this particular matter:)
canopfor on December 31, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Sam I Am? No wonder he got lost! You should have gone with Spartacus.
Rio Linda Refugee on December 31, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Yeah, I don’t disagree. Something else to put on the to do list for 2013. :).
Timin203 on December 31, 2012 at 10:25 PM
Scary? I WAS the ONE with the great big plate of shrimp and a can of ball bearing holding 40 Marines hostage… Ok, it did kind of get scary when the Captain found out that I was holed up in the passageway eating freshly cooked shrimp while rolling ball bearings up the passageway walls making the Marines all crazy sea sick. Every have to clean out a bilge with a 5 gallon bucket and a tea spoon?
SWalker on December 31, 2012 at 10:25 PM
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