Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

New Yorkers of all income levels got a rude awakening yesterday when they saw in The Post how much more they will pay in taxes next year without a fiscal-cliff deal by Jan. 1.

“It’s that much higher?” asked IT worker Vikas Kataria, 34, who discovered that his combined household income of about $250,000 per year will cost him nearly $10,000 more in taxes.

“I thought it was a couple thousand — but that’s a lot,” said Kataria, who works at Merrill Lynch in Manhattan and is married to a systems analyst for a brokerage firm. “That’s huge!”…

“What am I supposed to do, work harder?” Hagon said. “I don’t want to find myself in front of my store dead with a heart attack!”

***

Whether or not a Senate deal can be reached is anyone’s guess, though it seems unlikely considering all the false starts that have characterized negotiations up to this point. Whether McConnell would allow for an up-or-down vote on a Democratic-authored bill is even less certain. On Friday evening, Reid’s office announced that it was preparing such a bill for a Monday vote as a contingency plan…

[A White House] official argued that any final deal that emerged from the Senate would have to be crafted with an eye toward garnering Democratic support in the House. Reid, after all, wouldn’t sign off on a bill that set the threshold for tax hikes too high. And since Boehner’s failed “Plan B” proposal showed he was unable to pass legislation raising rates only on millionaires, Democratic votes in both chambers would be needed.

“Whatever McConnell and Reid cook up is something that Nancy Pelosi has to support,” the official said. “The Minority Leader will have a powerful role in these discussions.”

***

The last-minute tax and spending deal being discussed in the Senate would do little to reduce the deficit, and could actually expand it, leaving difficult choices about Medicare, Social Security, and the country’s borrowing limit until next year…

This weekend, with talks moving closer to the deadline, the only item being discussed that would reduce the deficit is a White House proposal to let the Bush-era tax cuts expire for upper-income households. White House officials believe raising tax rates on income above $250,000, combined with changes in capital-gains, dividend, and estate-tax rules, would raise roughly $950 billion over 10 years, a level that is short of their $1.2 trillion goal. That means the White House is likely to try and pursue more tax increases as part of any subsequent budget debate in 2013…

The other items being discussed as part of the slimmed-down package would cost the government. One would extend emergency unemployment benefits for one year, at a cost of roughly $30 billion. Another would prevent Medicare payments to doctors from being cut close to 27%. This change would cost another $10 billion, according to estimates.

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The big-ticket item hanging over the Reid-McConnell talks will be the income level at which taxes can rise. Boehner failed to win sufficient GOP support for a plan to increase taxes for income over $1 million, and Obama has previously upped his offer from $250,000 to $400,000. McConnell and Reid are also trying to agree on the level to set taxes on estates that are transferred after the death of an owner.

At the meeting, Boehner made clear any efforts to eliminate pending cuts to defense and domestic programs — about $109 billion next year — must be replaced by spending cuts to other programs. Republicans later said it appeared that the so-called sequester would not be addressed in a final agreement. A final deal appears unlikely to include an increase of the $16.4 trillion national debt limit, which will be reached on Monday, meaning that Congress will almost certainly renew the battle over taxes and spending immediately in the new year.

***

Multiple GOP lawmakers indicated that their goal now is to get through the fiscal cliff standoff one way or another, at which point Republicans can regroup and focus their efforts on extracting concessions from the White House in exchange for a debt-limit boost.

“Give the president whatever he wants [on taxes],” Grassley said hypothetically. “All it covers is somewhere between eight and 12 percent of the $1.1 trillion deficit.

“When you get beyond this fiscal cliff deal, the public starts looking at what we’re trying to do to cut down on spending as opposed to increasing taxes, that strengthens our hand,” he added.

A House GOP aide said the debt limit provides a “natural venue” for Republicans to continue to push for preferred fiscal policies, once the fiscal cliff is in the rearview mirror.

***

“A top Obama administration official” told The Huffington Post that “they don’t view an unresolved debt ceiling fight as too generous a concession because, as a matter of principle, the president will not negotiate with Republicans over raising it down the road.”…

If Obama drops the debt ceiling demand, he’s setting the stage for another round of budget talks in late February, during which the GOP will demand long-term spending reforms in exchange for an immediate increase in the debt ceiling.

***

A pair of GOP senators, confident Congress will head off the tax hikes set to kick in within days, are already turning their attention to entitlements and the debt ceiling.

Tennessee Sens. Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander pitched a plan on Friday to cut federal spending by $1 trillion — much of it from Medicare — in exchange for increasing the nation’s borrowing limit by that amount. The plan would raise the Medicare eligibly age to 67 and require wealthier Medicare users to pay higher premiums. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has estimated extraordinary measures can push the necessity of Congress addressing the debt ceiling until perhaps February.

“Here we are on Dec. 29 without a serious proposal before us to deal with the biggest issue, which is entitlements,” Corker said. “There’s been a lot of discussions about figuring out a way to deal with the … revenue side and at least getting that portion out of the way. Since we know it’s going to happen either before the 31st or after.”

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Cliff-jumping also would mean that instead of spending the early weeks of January laying out big plans for a second-term agenda, Obama and his staff will be bogged down with negotiations over the myriad issues wrapped up in the cliff, including everything from the tax cuts and across-the-board spending cuts to the alternative minimum tax and the “doc fix,” the formula under which physicians receive reimbursement for treating Medicare patients. In the White House’s preferred scenario, a deal addressing key elements of the fiscal cliff would have been clinched by the end of this year and that could have been used to tee up negotiations in 2013 over a grand bargain on the budget. Obama has set a goal of reaching a long-term budget deal by the first half of next year and hopes to notch up an agreement as part of his legacy.

Not only will the grand-bargain discussions need to await an eventual resolution of the fiscal cliff, but other items on Obama’s second-term agenda risk getting pushed to the back burner, too, including gun control and immigration.

***

“I think everyone is trying to look busy, so when we go over, they can say, well, we tried,” Brooks said. “He came back from Hawaii. He had to do something. And so they had a meeting. If you don’t have new offers, you are not really making progress. You could have a nice frank exchange, but they are in the business of making a deal. And there is really, as far as we know, no real evidence that they moved. So I remain convinced, as I have been, that we are probably going to go over.”

***

Under the most likely scenario, Republicans will get nothing — nothing — in return for giving in on tax rates for the highest-income Americans. No spending cuts, at least no serious spending cuts beyond what are already included in sequestration, would be part of the deal done on Sunday or Monday, if that is indeed what happens…

As for spending cuts, particularly in entitlements, some Senate Republicans say they will press for those in January or February, during the coming battle over raising the nation’s debt ceiling. They believe that fight will give them leverage to extract real concessions from the White House and Democrats on spending. It’s not entirely clear why they believe that so strongly; Republicans will certainly take a beating in the press if they appear ready to push the nation toward default to win unpopular cuts. Nevertheless, some in the GOP are readying themselves for that fight…

So a deal will most likely be done. But the bottom line is that the fiscal cliff fight will not end happily for Republicans. They will have given in on what was an article of faith — that taxes should not be raised on anybody, poor or rich — in return for essentially nothing. All they will have is a plan to fight again, soon.

***

It’s difficult to find a Republican operative who is willing to say on the record that going over the fiscal cliff next Tuesday is a good idea. Provoking a crisis is bad politics: Republicans are resigned to taking the blame. And it’s bad for their policy agenda: They will likely be cornered into a broader tax hike than the best deal they could get from President Barack Obama today, and with none of the spending cuts that might now be on the table.

And yet, the dominant emotion among most Republicans here is one of sheer resignation.

“It’s a shit show,” one prominent Republican told BuzzFeed of the GOP’s messaging position. “Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”

***

Congress can prevent it from happening, if they act now. Leaders in Congress are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class, and I believe we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time.

But if an agreement isn’t reached in time, then I’ll urge the Senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for Americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction.

I believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities – as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote.

***

The Republican-controlled House has taken a step in the right direction. The House has already passed bills to protect all Americans from burdensome tax increases. In addition, they’ve passed legislation to replace damaging across-the-board spending cuts with responsible targeted ones, and to bring our nation’s record debt under control. But instead of working across the aisle and considering the House-passed plan to protect taxpayers, Senate Democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand.

The President’s proposal to raise taxes on the top 2 percent of Americans won’t even pay one-third of the annual interest that’s now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. In fact, the President’s tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. Americans deserve to know: What does the President propose we do for the other 357 days of the year?


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4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:25 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Do you like blue grass music??..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:25 AM

I have been hearing conspiracy theories like that for at least 30 years. I have come to be very skeptical of them. Mostly I have come to embrace Hanlon’s Razor, “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” That said, the level and pervasiveness of corruption and Marxism within the Obama Administration does seem to stretch Hanlons’ Razor more than a bit.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:27 AM

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Why have you been skeptical?

It was about twenty years ago that a family member put the book “En Route To Global Occupation” (by Gary Kah) into my hand. Only a year after that another family member received an audio cassette with “Sustainable Development” on one side, and “The Most Dangerous Man In The World” on the other side. It was mostly about Maurice Strong, a man I had never heard of before listening to that tape.

Since then, I read lots more on Maurice Strong (the internet’s GREAT), and (Henry) Philip Isley.
Isley passed away this past June at age 97. He was the founder of the WCPA and from what I’ve been able to learn, he was a genuine gentleman in his manners and personality.
He would not (I don’t believe) have been for all of “under-handed”, clandestine activity that’s been going on to force the non-willfully-compliant countries (we’re #1 on that list) into submission to his One World Government.
But now he’s gone … and those taking the lead now, are not so scrupulous.

I believe the top of the current ‘leadership pyramid’ includes Mike Gorbechev, Maurice Strong, and George Soros.
They (or others beneath them) are the “Shadow Government” of the United States.

listens2glenn on December 30, 2012 at 1:26 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Do you like blue grass music??..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:25 AM

GAHHHH <—- Holds up fingers in the sign of the cross… Back demons… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Seven Percent Solution on December 30, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Good deal..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM

…Field Goal…E X P L E T I V E !

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Do you like blue grass music??..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:25 AM

Most of it, yes. You have a tune in mind?

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Some very good musicians and talent there..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Some very good musicians and talent there..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Just not my cup of tea… Not enough distortion, delay or sustain… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Good deal..A beautiful voice..:)

PS..Very good band also..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:31 AM

GAHHHH <—- Holds up fingers in the sign of the cross… Back demons… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Aw, it’s good for yoou. And, EAT YOUR PEAS! ;)

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Just not my cup of tea… Not enough distortion, delay or sustain… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Damned Metal-Head Purist!

(lol)

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Laudate Dominum – Mozart- Bartoli

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

I understand..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:32 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:27 AM

Some very good musicians and talent there..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM

Just not my cup of tea… Not enough distortion, delay or sustain… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:29 AM

I may live out in the rural countryside, but this here good ole country boy has a 120 octane shredding addiction to service… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

EAT YOUR PEAS! ;)

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:31 AM

GAHHHH <—- Holds up fingers in the sign of the cross… Back demons… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

However, in all he meant collectivism, not collective anything.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

And he believes that is where salvation lays.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

It’s a basic tenant of Marxism.

And, Black Liberation Theology.

Resist We Much on December 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

Field Goal MSU…Fluking E X P L E T I V E !

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

However, in all he meant collectivism, not collective anything.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Yes. You’d think after the “you didn’t build that” at last Americans would wake up to that. It sure isn’t the country I thought it was.

AshleyTKing on December 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Resist We Much, you are doing great work.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Thank you kindly, dear sir.

Resist We Much on December 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Ave Maria -Schubert- Renee Fleming

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:37 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:34 AM

from flawless classical to sustained shredding.

Very Nice.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:40 AM

2012 was a crummy year because of one day Nov 6.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Yeh Michigan State!! One of the few times I root for them:)

wolverinefan on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Yes, she does have a very nice voice.

Don’t know if you’ve heard of them, but Cornbread Red is a band that does Bluegrass covers of anything from rock, alternative rock, Christian, 60s & 70s Folk.

I actually like them. Not a lot by them on YT, but here’s an example.

Here’s one more.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

…1st time this year MSU hasn’t lost a close game in the last minute!

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Lascia ch’io pianga – Handel- Bartoli

Lascia ch’io pianga

Mia cruda sorte

E che sospiri

La liberta!

Il duolo infranga

Queste ritorte

De’ miei martiri

Sol per pieta

“Deja que llore mi suerte cruel y que añore la libertad”.

Let me weep over my cruel fate, And that I long for freedom! And that I long, and that I long for freedom! Let me weep over my cruel fate, And that I long for freedom! The duel infringes these images of my sufferings I pray for mercy. for my sufferances. I pray for mercy. Let me weep over my cruel fate, And that I long for freedom! And that I long, and that I long for freedom! Let me weep over my cruel fate, And that I long for freedom!

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Field Goal MSU…Fluking E X P L E T I V E !

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

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I like both teams, but I was pulling for MSU.

listens2glenn on December 30, 2012 at 1:45 AM

The Moon Goddess is here.

I spotted her first.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

dude friggin tortures that strat at the end….he gets more range finger tapping 1 string and bending the sh!t out of it with his tremelo bar…then most musicians get out of the whole fretboard.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Yeh Michigan State!! One of the few times I root for them:)

wolverinefan on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

…oh I’ll be rooting for U of M soon…and two basketball programs…until they play Izzo!

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Shall we dance in the forest glade, near the pool beneath the waterfall, Spark? :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:47 AM

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:36 AM

.
Yeh Michigan State!! One of the few times I root for them. :)

wolverinefan on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

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I nearly always pull for the all the BigTen teams in the post-season bowl games

listens2glenn on December 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM

Dancin’ In The Moonlight – King Harvest

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM

dude friggin tortures that strat at the end….he gets more range finger tapping 1 string and bending the sh!t out of it with his tremelo bar…then most musicians get out of the whole fretboard.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:46 AM

Yea, he aint no amateur that’s for sure… ;)

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:50 AM

I’m a little horrified that Gheorghiu is singing Carmen, as she is NOT a Mezzo in any way, but I guess that’s all we can hope for when it comes to people planning an opera event. Of course the woman who sings for Bumbry should be the spectacular Zajick or Blythe and you’d love for it to be O Don Fatale or something from Macbeth.
libfleeorlie December 07, 2009 at 03:43 PM

LegendHasIt on December 30, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Moonlight Tango – Richard Meyer

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:47 AM

I would love to. But you will have to lead, I will follow and I will look lovingly into your eyes as the frogs and crickets chirp in the moonlight.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM

If forgot to work in toad stools into the background.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:52 AM

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM

That sound lovely. I’ll use my special Moon Goddess powers to grant you the ability to dance any dance you like perfectly. YOU may lead, Spark. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:47 AM

I would love to. But you will have to lead, I will follow and I will look lovingly into your eyes as the frogs and crickets chirp in the moonlight.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:51 AM

Sure you wouldn’t rather dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:52 AM

lol! Perhaps the toads were using them to watch the dancing!:)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

All right Sally. I’m in heaven.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:54 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:44 AM

Excellent!!..I will have to look them up..Great covers..:)

PS..Speaking of great covers..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM

How many Americans are Wide Awake? Are there enough of us?

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Perhaps you’ll like this one better, Walker. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:57 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

hey. where was the spoiler alert? Now I have to cope with batman being dead. Now I’m having flash backs about Bambi in the forest fire running scared.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:57 AM

I nearly always pull for the all the BigTen teams in the post-season bowl games

listens2glenn on December 30, 2012 at 1:48 AM

What is you exception??..Let me guess..Ohio State??..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:58 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:56 AM

yeah. you kicked some tail with that track sister.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:58 AM

PS..Speaking of great covers..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Yes, I’ve always liked that one. Very nice!

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:00 AM

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:53 AM

haha. Little peeper toads sitting on toad stools smiling at me smiling at you smiling at them.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Who loves taxes? Come on. Who loves them? Chime in.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

River – Montgomery

S-l-i-d-e. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM

now that’s what I’m talkin’ ’bout.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

Who loves root canals? Come on people. Who does? click like if you love root canals.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:04 AM

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:02 AM

lol! Perfect. :) And I’ll smile back at you, too. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:04 AM

Perhaps you’ll like this one better, Walker. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Very nice… ;)

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

Glad you like it. :) A great tune…great feel. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:05 AM

We guitar junkies have to stick together! LOL!

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:06 AM

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 2:06 AM

Lets go over the cliff. The biggest problem we face today isnt the height of some particular tax, but the progressivity of our tax system. Its the basis for the Democrats “dont worry about Big Government, somebody else will pay it”-policies.

We should stop simply lowering every tax rate we can get our hands on anymore. “Starve the beast” failed. It left millions of citizens without any stake in fiscal sanity and limited government.

Our next big goals must be the flat-tax, the end of progressivity, the end of deductions and getting people back on the tax rolls.

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Starve the beast didn’t fail it was really tried. Yes taxes were cut but in order to keep spending borrowing was increased. The beast just got fat on borrowed money. The GOP is complicit in the whole scam. If we are going to starve the beast then no borrowing or printing money by the fed should be allowed.

chemman on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

You’re both right.

Although I support the fair-tax not the flat-tax. The flat-tax still requires the government to invade our economic privacy, the fair-tax doesn’t, thus is more compatible with freedom and liberty.

FloatingRock on December 30, 2012 at 2:06 AM

yeah. you kicked some tail with that track sister.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:58 AM

Lolz. Thanks, Spark. Nice turn of a phrase there.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Starve the beast didn’t fail it wasn’t really tried.

chemman on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

I forgot to include Chemman’s correction above.

FloatingRock on December 30, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Sister Golden Hair – America

How about these guys, Tim? :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 2:06 AM

Good evening, Dire! Great to see you, and some excellent tunes you’ve been cuing up with 4Grace there, too. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Sister Golden Hair – America

How about these guys, Tim? :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Well if we’re going there

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Who loves taxes? Come on. Who loves them? Chime in.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:03 AM

…Joe Biteme loves them because it makes us all more Patriotic paying them!

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Waiting For A Girl Like You – Foreigner

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

How about these guys, Tim? :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Dug out my levi’s cords and Hang-Ten shirt to properly enjoy this, partner.

Undoubtedly one of America’s best.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:13 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Yes. That’s there alright. Good one. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 2:06 AM

Good evening, Dire! Great to see you, and some excellent tunes you’ve been cuing up with 4Grace there, too. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:10 AM

Don’t trust Dire Jack, he’s just trying to steal you DJ Tiara from you… ;)

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

New Steyn…

Laws Are For Little People

Resist We Much on December 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

The more tunes the merrier! Everyone should join in. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM

Well if we’re going there…

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

My goodness, haven’t heard that in ages. Nice.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM

How about these guys, Tim? :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:09 AM

Dug out my levi’s cords and Hang-Ten shirt to properly enjoy this, partner.

Undoubtedly one of America’s best.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:13 AM

Slaps Tim around… come out of it man… come out of it…

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Another song that yanks you back immediately….great choice.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:13 AM

Too cool. :) Glad I could help take you there. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:17 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:14 AM

LoLz..I prefer Fedoras..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Slaps Tim around… come out of it man… come out of it…

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM

lol….and you’re just as sick as I am.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

Resist We Much on December 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM

Can never have too much Steyn. Adore him!

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Joe bite me, haha good one

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:19 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Another song that yanks you back immediately….great choice.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM

I Wanna Be Sedated

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:19 AM

Ventura Highway -America

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:20 AM

Slaps Tim around… come out of it man… come out of it…

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:16 AM

lol….and you’re just as sick as I am.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

BWAHAHAHAH…. It’s obviously a result of living in California… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:20 AM

LoLz..I prefer Fedoras..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

And you wear it well, Dire. :)

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:21 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:19 AM

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:20 AM

Ya b@stards got me diggin’ out my “glaucoma” meds now!

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Golly. I stumbled on this tango.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7A5Ca4ZX8o

content warning.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

LoLz..I prefer Fedoras..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 2:18 AM

And you wear it well, Dire. :)

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:21 AM

Psss… Dire is really Linus Torvalds… :wink wink:

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:23 AM

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

LOL! :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:24 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:23 AM

Red hat?

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:24 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:23 AM

Red hat?

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:24 AM

Fedora… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:25 AM

Golly. I stumbled on this tango.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7A5Ca4ZX8o

content warning.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

Ha. Stumbled, indeed. You’ll need a brand new invention to recover from that, Spark.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:26 AM

Williams was released on $100,000 bail Friday, and later asked TMZ rhetorically “How do you keep kids safe without guns?”

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/comedian-katt-williams-arrested-child-407113

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 2:27 AM

New Steyn…

Laws Are For Little People

Resist We Much on December 30, 2012 at 2:15 AM

…Good!…thanks!…I just had a “little people” experience ‘current law’… that cost me $180 that none of my acquaintances knew about either.

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 2:28 AM

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 2:22 AM

:)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:29 AM

A lawyer who’s asking to sue Connecticut for $100 million on behalf of a 6-year-old Newtown school shooting survivor who heard violence over the school’s intercom system says the potential claim is about improving school security, not money.

“It’s about living in a world that’s safe,” New Haven attorney Irving Pinsky told The Associated Press on Saturday. “The answer is about protecting the kids.”

Pinsky asked this week to sue the state, which has immunity against most lawsuits unless it gives a party permission to go forward with a claim. Connecticut’s claims commissioner couldn’t be reached for comment Saturday.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/conn-attorney-asks-sue-state-shooting-18088205#.UN_tMXeynnx

Sure.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

And with that… I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon….

as I …. fade to black. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:31 AM

A little Gonzo…

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:32 AM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

And with that… I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon….

as I …. fade to black. :)

thatsafactjack on December 30, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Meh… Screen writers, always fading to black… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 2:35 AM

Sure.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 2:31 AM

Another good line: “It’s about living in a world that’s safe.”

I think their definition of safe and our definition are not the same.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 2:35 AM

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