Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

New Yorkers of all income levels got a rude awakening yesterday when they saw in The Post how much more they will pay in taxes next year without a fiscal-cliff deal by Jan. 1.

“It’s that much higher?” asked IT worker Vikas Kataria, 34, who discovered that his combined household income of about $250,000 per year will cost him nearly $10,000 more in taxes.

“I thought it was a couple thousand — but that’s a lot,” said Kataria, who works at Merrill Lynch in Manhattan and is married to a systems analyst for a brokerage firm. “That’s huge!”…

“What am I supposed to do, work harder?” Hagon said. “I don’t want to find myself in front of my store dead with a heart attack!”

***

Whether or not a Senate deal can be reached is anyone’s guess, though it seems unlikely considering all the false starts that have characterized negotiations up to this point. Whether McConnell would allow for an up-or-down vote on a Democratic-authored bill is even less certain. On Friday evening, Reid’s office announced that it was preparing such a bill for a Monday vote as a contingency plan…

[A White House] official argued that any final deal that emerged from the Senate would have to be crafted with an eye toward garnering Democratic support in the House. Reid, after all, wouldn’t sign off on a bill that set the threshold for tax hikes too high. And since Boehner’s failed “Plan B” proposal showed he was unable to pass legislation raising rates only on millionaires, Democratic votes in both chambers would be needed.

“Whatever McConnell and Reid cook up is something that Nancy Pelosi has to support,” the official said. “The Minority Leader will have a powerful role in these discussions.”

***

The last-minute tax and spending deal being discussed in the Senate would do little to reduce the deficit, and could actually expand it, leaving difficult choices about Medicare, Social Security, and the country’s borrowing limit until next year…

This weekend, with talks moving closer to the deadline, the only item being discussed that would reduce the deficit is a White House proposal to let the Bush-era tax cuts expire for upper-income households. White House officials believe raising tax rates on income above $250,000, combined with changes in capital-gains, dividend, and estate-tax rules, would raise roughly $950 billion over 10 years, a level that is short of their $1.2 trillion goal. That means the White House is likely to try and pursue more tax increases as part of any subsequent budget debate in 2013…

The other items being discussed as part of the slimmed-down package would cost the government. One would extend emergency unemployment benefits for one year, at a cost of roughly $30 billion. Another would prevent Medicare payments to doctors from being cut close to 27%. This change would cost another $10 billion, according to estimates.

***

The big-ticket item hanging over the Reid-McConnell talks will be the income level at which taxes can rise. Boehner failed to win sufficient GOP support for a plan to increase taxes for income over $1 million, and Obama has previously upped his offer from $250,000 to $400,000. McConnell and Reid are also trying to agree on the level to set taxes on estates that are transferred after the death of an owner.

At the meeting, Boehner made clear any efforts to eliminate pending cuts to defense and domestic programs — about $109 billion next year — must be replaced by spending cuts to other programs. Republicans later said it appeared that the so-called sequester would not be addressed in a final agreement. A final deal appears unlikely to include an increase of the $16.4 trillion national debt limit, which will be reached on Monday, meaning that Congress will almost certainly renew the battle over taxes and spending immediately in the new year.

***

Multiple GOP lawmakers indicated that their goal now is to get through the fiscal cliff standoff one way or another, at which point Republicans can regroup and focus their efforts on extracting concessions from the White House in exchange for a debt-limit boost.

“Give the president whatever he wants [on taxes],” Grassley said hypothetically. “All it covers is somewhere between eight and 12 percent of the $1.1 trillion deficit.

“When you get beyond this fiscal cliff deal, the public starts looking at what we’re trying to do to cut down on spending as opposed to increasing taxes, that strengthens our hand,” he added.

A House GOP aide said the debt limit provides a “natural venue” for Republicans to continue to push for preferred fiscal policies, once the fiscal cliff is in the rearview mirror.

***

“A top Obama administration official” told The Huffington Post that “they don’t view an unresolved debt ceiling fight as too generous a concession because, as a matter of principle, the president will not negotiate with Republicans over raising it down the road.”…

If Obama drops the debt ceiling demand, he’s setting the stage for another round of budget talks in late February, during which the GOP will demand long-term spending reforms in exchange for an immediate increase in the debt ceiling.

***

A pair of GOP senators, confident Congress will head off the tax hikes set to kick in within days, are already turning their attention to entitlements and the debt ceiling.

Tennessee Sens. Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander pitched a plan on Friday to cut federal spending by $1 trillion — much of it from Medicare — in exchange for increasing the nation’s borrowing limit by that amount. The plan would raise the Medicare eligibly age to 67 and require wealthier Medicare users to pay higher premiums. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has estimated extraordinary measures can push the necessity of Congress addressing the debt ceiling until perhaps February.

“Here we are on Dec. 29 without a serious proposal before us to deal with the biggest issue, which is entitlements,” Corker said. “There’s been a lot of discussions about figuring out a way to deal with the … revenue side and at least getting that portion out of the way. Since we know it’s going to happen either before the 31st or after.”

***

Cliff-jumping also would mean that instead of spending the early weeks of January laying out big plans for a second-term agenda, Obama and his staff will be bogged down with negotiations over the myriad issues wrapped up in the cliff, including everything from the tax cuts and across-the-board spending cuts to the alternative minimum tax and the “doc fix,” the formula under which physicians receive reimbursement for treating Medicare patients. In the White House’s preferred scenario, a deal addressing key elements of the fiscal cliff would have been clinched by the end of this year and that could have been used to tee up negotiations in 2013 over a grand bargain on the budget. Obama has set a goal of reaching a long-term budget deal by the first half of next year and hopes to notch up an agreement as part of his legacy.

Not only will the grand-bargain discussions need to await an eventual resolution of the fiscal cliff, but other items on Obama’s second-term agenda risk getting pushed to the back burner, too, including gun control and immigration.

***

“I think everyone is trying to look busy, so when we go over, they can say, well, we tried,” Brooks said. “He came back from Hawaii. He had to do something. And so they had a meeting. If you don’t have new offers, you are not really making progress. You could have a nice frank exchange, but they are in the business of making a deal. And there is really, as far as we know, no real evidence that they moved. So I remain convinced, as I have been, that we are probably going to go over.”

***

Under the most likely scenario, Republicans will get nothing — nothing — in return for giving in on tax rates for the highest-income Americans. No spending cuts, at least no serious spending cuts beyond what are already included in sequestration, would be part of the deal done on Sunday or Monday, if that is indeed what happens…

As for spending cuts, particularly in entitlements, some Senate Republicans say they will press for those in January or February, during the coming battle over raising the nation’s debt ceiling. They believe that fight will give them leverage to extract real concessions from the White House and Democrats on spending. It’s not entirely clear why they believe that so strongly; Republicans will certainly take a beating in the press if they appear ready to push the nation toward default to win unpopular cuts. Nevertheless, some in the GOP are readying themselves for that fight…

So a deal will most likely be done. But the bottom line is that the fiscal cliff fight will not end happily for Republicans. They will have given in on what was an article of faith — that taxes should not be raised on anybody, poor or rich — in return for essentially nothing. All they will have is a plan to fight again, soon.

***

It’s difficult to find a Republican operative who is willing to say on the record that going over the fiscal cliff next Tuesday is a good idea. Provoking a crisis is bad politics: Republicans are resigned to taking the blame. And it’s bad for their policy agenda: They will likely be cornered into a broader tax hike than the best deal they could get from President Barack Obama today, and with none of the spending cuts that might now be on the table.

And yet, the dominant emotion among most Republicans here is one of sheer resignation.

“It’s a shit show,” one prominent Republican told BuzzFeed of the GOP’s messaging position. “Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”

***

Congress can prevent it from happening, if they act now. Leaders in Congress are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class, and I believe we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time.

But if an agreement isn’t reached in time, then I’ll urge the Senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for Americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction.

I believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities – as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote.

***

The Republican-controlled House has taken a step in the right direction. The House has already passed bills to protect all Americans from burdensome tax increases. In addition, they’ve passed legislation to replace damaging across-the-board spending cuts with responsible targeted ones, and to bring our nation’s record debt under control. But instead of working across the aisle and considering the House-passed plan to protect taxpayers, Senate Democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand.

The President’s proposal to raise taxes on the top 2 percent of Americans won’t even pay one-third of the annual interest that’s now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. In fact, the President’s tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. Americans deserve to know: What does the President propose we do for the other 357 days of the year?


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“Whenever men set out to create Heaven on Earth they invariably end up creating Hell instead” — Sophie

RWM, thanks for the smirks.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Hmmmmmmmmmmm,does this mean,only Hopey,and no one else,
oh wait,its at the WH,…..so its a Fiscal Cliff INFO
MERCIAL!!!

@mpoindc tweeted:
mpoindc
President Obama will appear exclusively on @meetthepress this Sunday, as was just announced on the @NBCNews special report.

Dec 28, 2012, 6:02 p.m. from twitter.com by editor
=======================================================

BetsyMTP Betsy Fischer Martin 3h
Trying #behindthescene pic again – preps for @meetthepress interview w Pres Obama @adamverdugo pic.twitter.com/U23MuZQs
Details

https://twitter.com/meetthepress

https://twitter.com/BetsyMTP/status/285205254486757376/photo/1

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:05 AM

SparkPlug on December 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Hold on!!..If we are going to summon someone let’s make it Kate Upton..Why waste that power on Cher..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

canopfor on December 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

LOLZ. That could cause a bang.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Lets go over the cliff. The biggest problem we face today isnt the height of some particular tax, but the progressivity of our tax system. Its the basis for the Democrats “dont worry about Big Government, somebody else will pay it”-policies.

We should stop simply lowering every tax rate we can get our hands on anymore. “Starve the beast” failed. It left millions of citizens without any stake in fiscal sanity and limited government.

Our next big goals must be the flat-tax, the end of progressivity, the end of deductions and getting people back on the tax rolls.

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Wow. Let me see what I can do.

http://www.ftsldrs.com/events/kate-upton-shot-by-terry-richardson/

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 12:14 AM

canopfor on December 29, 2012 at 11:59 PM

LOLZ. That could cause a bang.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

SparkPlug:

Haha,ya,the shock-wave will penetrate,where sumpin sumpin
hasn’t ever gone before,er,…near!!:)

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Barky and Co stumble from one thing to another and get away with it by hiding behind Barky’s skin. That’s about the shape of it. There’s not much more to that angle. That’s all they have and that’s all they play. Just as in the election (with the assist from Romney’s retarded campaign, of course).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 29, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Indeed, and with the Obama-sh*t-consuming media. Suffocate from what you eat, most media. It ain’t Beluga caviar. May you all die, intoxicated from it.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:15 AM

HA was graced with genius today…

Somewhere, There Is A Motherland That Has Lost Its Idiot

Resist We Much on December 29, 2012 at 11:32 PM

By the way, fund your utopia without me, sucka.

Makes me smile, a lot.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:17 AM

SparkPlug on December 29, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Hold on!!..If we are going to summon someone let’s make it Kate Upton..Why waste that power on Cher..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Dire StraitS:

Just terrific,now I’ll have neverending Russian/Asain girls
advertisements,in the upper right of H/A page!:)

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Yea, I’m a bit skeptical, but sadly it isn’t something that I find to be so inconceivable as to completely discount.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:00 AM

That’s the thing about this administration. They’re just corrupt enough and extremist enough that you can’t discount any such thing. Couldn’t even say that about Bubba, despite his Chessmaster’s reputation; with him it was really just a question of what he was doing behind the scenes to get his ego (and another part) stroked.

With the creep we have and the cronies that surround him… can you ever feel 100% comfortable that a full on Communist r-word isn’t in the works? I never saw anybody question if Bubba would leave in 2001 or GWB leave in 2009. Is everybody 100% certain Obama won’t still be in office after 2016? 99%? 95%?

I think this is another part of those low spirits among conservatives as mentioned in that Green Room post a few days ago. I’ve followed politics closely since 2000. This is the first time I haven’t entirely felt like there is another battle to fight. After victory, there was always a sense that the fight continued to see what we could accomplish (tax cut) or how we could add to or defend our gains (2002, 2004), after defeat there was always the feeling that there was another chance out there. Sure after 2006, we knew we were probably losing in 2008, but there was still a fight. Then there was a fight to limit the damage, and to take back our government. The Tea Party movement started in the spring of 2009. We were the lowest we’d been in a long time, but there was still a fight.

Now though, I don’t feel that. I still say fight at every level, always shift right and yield nothing, but I don’t necessarily look forward to the potential ’14 mid-term gains as much as I did those in ’10, even though history would say we’re in good position to win big. Is it because half the GOP is too gutless to matter? Is it because this country has been overrun with morons, sexual degenerates, and takers? Is it because that article is true? I don’t know… but I just get the sense that we’ve fought our last battle… and lost.

Between the self-imposed surveillance that is Facebook, the propaganda machine that are the media, and the degenerate nature of most of the populace, we’re very ripe for such a thing to happen. The Germans of 1930 were stronger in mind and spirit than we are now… they just got desperate when crisis hit. Imagine the crises that could come in the next couple years, and the potential reaction of the Fluke generation.

Gingotts on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Just terrific,now I’ll have neverending Russian/Asain girls
advertisements,in the upper right of H/A page!:)

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM

And the down side to that is???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

SWalker on December 29, 2012 at 11:20 PM

I admit, I’m easily swayed by conspiracy stuff. Always have been. I am convinced that Oswald did not act alone.

But this has been developing a long time.

We are not to live in fear.

tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Thanks for that.

I do not fear for myself so much. But my family is halfway across the nation. Although it’s been slow, I think we are on the road to patching things up. My wife has at least consented to think about my moving back in for a trial period over the summer. But if the SHTF this spring, she will be on her own with a Gen Xer and a toddler to worry about. Yeah, it is her choice, but you want to help the ones you care about regardless of the choices they’ve made.

If it comes down like described in the CanadaFreePress article, anarchy will ensue and that will play into the Marxists’ hands.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Otay crew,I have the urge,for snuffation,er,
harmless game playing,Black Ops,PS-3!!!!

Nite Everyone———————————:)

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM

“Whenever men set out to create Heaven on Earth they invariably end up creating Hell instead” — Sophie

RWM, thanks for the smirks.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:04 AM

If I do say so myself, I do snark well.

If you want to see skeery for real – O in his own words:

Whenever Men Set Out To Create Heaven On Earth, They Invariably End Up Creating Hell Instead.

Resist We Much on December 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM

LegendHasIt on December 29, 2012 at 11:21 PM

“Chocolate to Rainbow City: Branding Black and Gay Washington, D.C., 1954-1978″

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:21 AM

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM

And the down side to that is???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

SWalker:Lol,….um…you’ll go blind!:)

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Gingotts on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

You have captured pretty much what I’ve think about where we are.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

I think that a lot of folks think those Bush “tax cuts” were only given to the rich..Like the first QOTD post points out..Some folks are in for a rude awakening..Very rude awakening..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Oh,before I go,anybody feel it!!

Nite Again:)
===========

Earthquake with preliminary magnitude 3.0 rattles California’s Gulf of Santa Catalina – @ABC7

3 hours ago by editor
=========================

https://twitter.com/ABC7

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Good news, indeed, david. I pray that things will work out for you & your family.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Just terrific,now I’ll have neverending Russian/Asain girls
advertisements,in the upper right of H/A page!:)

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:18 AM

lolz..Sorry..But I was dream BIG!!..:):)

PS..Good night friend..Enjoyed it as always..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Obama is to the Presidency what 4chan is to the internet.

I know Obama SOUNDS like he’s got big brains, but he is really just someone who never grew up and still lives in someone else’s basement. A basement he charges rent on, “or else”.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Tennessee Sens. Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander pitched a plan on Friday to cut federal spending by $1 trillion — much of it from Medicare — in exchange for increasing the nation’s borrowing limit by that amount. The plan would raise the Medicare eligibly age to 67 and require wealthier Medicare users to pay higher premiums.

As an interim step, this might do it.

AshleyTKing on December 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

And the down side to that is???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

You will go blind!!!..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:27 AM

SWalker on December 29, 2012 at 11:20 PM

I admit, I’m easily swayed by conspiracy stuff. Always have been. I am convinced that Oswald did not act alone.

But this has been developing a long time.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

I have been hearing conspiracy theories like that for at least 30 years. I have come to be very skeptical of them. Mostly I have come to embrace Hanlon’s Razor, “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” That said, the level and pervasiveness of corruption and Marxism within the Obama Administration does seem to stretch Hanlons’ Razor more than a bit.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Oh,before I go,anybody feel it!!

Nite Again:)
===========

Earthquake with preliminary magnitude 3.0 rattles California’s Gulf of Santa Catalina – @ABC7

3 hours ago by editor
=========================

https://twitter.com/ABC7

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Nary a bump or jog here in Southern CA by the coast.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Hope you had a Merry Christmas..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Nary a bump or jog here in Southern CA by the coast.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

You are in my back yard? <—- peeks out window… is that you standing over by the neighbors fence???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

You may say so, Sophie, because you are darn good at it.

“Sometimes this is a difficult road being in politics. Sometimes you can become fearful, sometimes you can become vain, sometimes you can seek power just for power’s sake instead of because you want to do service to God. I just want all of you to pray that I can be an instrument of God in the same way that Pastor Ron and all of you are instruments of God.

We’re going to keep on praising together.

I AM CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN CREATE A KINGDOM RIGHT HERE ON EARTH.”

- Senator Barack Obama, 8 October 2007

“My individual salvation is not going to come about without a collective salvation for the country. Unfortunately, I think that recognition requires that we make sacrifices and this country has not always been willing to make the sacrifices to bring about a new day and a new age.”

- Barack Obama, 1995

“… my individual salvation is not going to come about without a collective salvation for the country. Um, unfortunately I think that recognition requires that we make sacrifices and this country has not always been willing to make the sacrifices necessary to bring about a new day and a new age.”

– Barack Obama, 1998

“My individual salvation depends on our collective salvation.”

- Barack Obama, Dreams of My Father, 2004

“I ask you to take it because you have an obligation to yourself. Because our individual salvation depends on our collective salvation.”

- Barack Obama, Xavier commencement address, 2006

“Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation. Because thinking only about yourself, fulfilling your immediate wants and needs, betrays a poverty of ambition.”

- Barack Obama, Wesleyan commencement address, 2008

RWM, he lied in all of them. You collected well, and roasted him well.

However, in all he meant collectivism, not collective anything.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

http://youtu.be/Hz56aZDItII

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Hello, Dire! Are you going to spin us some tunes this evening?

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:30 AM

His arrogance must and will be punished.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:30 AM

AshleyTKing on December 30, 2012 at 12:26 AM

Good point BUT the Democrats will scare the He!! out of the seniors and that will end that..Remember Greece is the word!!..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Nary a bump or jog here in Southern CA by the coast.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

You are in my back yard? <—- peeks out window… is that you standing over by the neighbors fence???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Nah, if it was me, I’d be dancing in the wonderful rain we’re getting…and yelling out, “Hey, Walker, come on ouuutttt.”

:)

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:28 AM

Hope you had a Merry Christmas..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Oh, how nice of you to say. Yes, I’ve had a Merry Christmas. I wrote long letters to people I wanted to tell how much they mattered to me and why. It was a wonderful experience…for me. And I can only hope for those to whom I wrote.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Sure..I always have dreams..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

I hope you’ve had a Merry CHristmas, too.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:34 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Nah, if it was me, I’d be dancing in the wonderful rain we’re getting…and yelling out, “Hey, Walker, come on ouuutttt.”

:)

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

BWAHAHAHAH…. Way to cold here to be dancing in the rain, hell, it’s likely to be snowing here later tonight… It’s already snow up the road a bit from me… (Julian getting snow right now)

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:35 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Where is Tito? Opps I mean Axe.

haha. I owe him one, He said I smelled like chilli. I do but its still insulting when Jackie said I smell like tender plant shoots.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Let’s get this party started already…

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

And while Obama & his band of merry travelers plot all of this, the so-called leaders on our side wring their hands and keep WISHIN & HOPIN.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:36 AM

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Where is Tito? Opps I mean Axe.

haha. I owe him one, He said I smelled like chilli. I do but its still insulting when Jackie said I smell like tender plant shoots.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 12:36 AM

I think he’s out attempting to pawn his tambourine so he can buy a bottle of Night Train… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:38 AM

And yet, the dominant emotion among most Republicans here is one of sheer resignation.

FU, you pathetic excuse for Americans. Then resign. Because you’ve been in a state of “resignation” for four years. You can’t confront Obama, the Left or the media. You can’t identify a mortal enemy to your country or stand up for the rest of us; you’re good for nothing. The guy who yelled “you lie” was the only one actually doing his job and speaking truth to power but he was shamed into an apology. Go make your miserable deal and go to hell.

rrpjr on December 30, 2012 at 12:38 AM

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

didn’t feel a thing…and I’m 26 miles (across the sea) from catalina.

:-(

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:39 AM

I have been hearing conspiracy theories like that for at least 30 years. I have come to be very skeptical of them. Mostly I have come to embrace Hanlon’s Razor, “Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” That said, the level and pervasiveness of corruption and Marxism within the Obama Administration does seem to stretch Hanlons’ Razor more than a bit.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Four years we’ve spent totaling up the ample evidence that Obama is an incompetent. This guy is a stumbling fool overseas. Self-absorbed to the point that he can’t even handle the easy jobs of tributes and eulogies. He has no economic sense and couldn’t manage a one-man thumb sucking contest.

Yet, I still wonder… did we fall for the same trap that captured the left in the ’00s? They just about literally convinced themselves GWB had an IQ of around 80. Where does the kabuki theater end and the direction of this administration begin?

I’m generally not a conspiracy theorist at all. I believe Oswald acted alone. I believe FDR had an understanding the Japanese would attack, but no idea of when, where, and how until it was on. I believe Elvis, Tupac, and Kurt Cobain are deader than three hammers. There’s still that lingering doubt though.

Perhaps the true fear isn’t what could happen in the near future, but that we actually have a government and a situation here and now where such an article can’t sincerely be laughed off…

Gingotts on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:31 AM

BWAHAHAHAH…. Way to cold here to be dancing in the rain, hell, it’s likely to be snowing here later tonight… It’s already snow up the road a bit from me… (Julian getting snow right now)

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Rain, snow, I’m a precipitation-freak. Love it, at any temperature and of any kind.

And rain in Southern CA is a thing of wonderment to me.

My favorite two sports-memories were, first, riding my bike in Hawaii during something that resembled a fresh-water lake turned vertical (tropical storm, downpour, nothing else like it), and, two, nightime cross-country skiing in Colorado during a Christmas Eve snowstorm with all that beautiful powder hitting my face with the whoosh-whoosh-whoosh of the skiis across and through heaps of powder everywhere.

So when in Southern CA and it rains, I’m someone who stands in the doorway or takes a walk just to relish in the rain.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Sure..I always have dreams..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Awesome choice! :)

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:20 AM

…thoughts and prayers going your way davidk

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

I think that a lot of folks think those Bush “tax cuts” were only given to the rich..Like the first QOTD post points out..Some folks are in for a rude awakening..Very rude awakening..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:23 AM

The germans have a saying: schadenfreude is die schoensten freude. Or something like that. And people definitely deserve to be confronted with the consequences when they vote for Big Government.

But putting glee aside, there is a serious issue here: I dont see the GOP adressing the point that the progressivity of our tax system is a big part of our spending problem. Boehners “Plan B” demonstrated that the GOP will desperately cling to any tax cut, no matter how the entirety of our tax system looks like. We argued during the campaign that the “fair share” argument was crap, because “the rich” already pay a huge parts of the income tax revenue and now Republicans – with the blessing of Grover Norquist – suggest compromises that make our tax system even more progressive. Its just insane.

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Good news, indeed, david. I pray that things will work out for you & your family.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

Thank you very much.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

canopfor on December 30, 2012 at 12:25 AM

didn’t feel a thing…and I’m 26 miles (across the sea) from catalina.

:-(

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:39 AM

What Californian does notice a 3.0???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:33 AM

Good deal..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM

…thoughts and prayers going your way davidk

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Thank you.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM

So when in Southern CA and it rains, I’m someone who stands in the doorway or takes a walk just to relish in the rain.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

And I’m the guy that b!tches that I can’t use the BBQ, and that the dog is wet and stinky.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

So when in Southern CA and it rains, I’m someone who stands in the doorway or takes a walk just to relish in the rain.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Heh heh, I’m not a snow person, but when it snows here I usually go out and enjoy it for a few minuets.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

And I’m the guy that b!tches that I can’t use the BBQ, and that the dog is wet and stinky.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

BWAHAHAHAH… that would be me as well… ;)

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:44 AM

And I’m the guy that b!tches that I can’t use the BBQ, and that the dog is wet and stinky.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Haha. Nothing worse than a wet & stinky dog. Unless there’s an unusable BBQ involved. ;p

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:46 AM

What Californian does notice a 3.0???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

True…but I was awake…and vertical.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:47 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:36 AM

Very nice..We need a Rainbow!!..:)

It is overdue..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

What Californian does notice a 3.0???

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

True…but I was awake…and vertical.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:47 AM

I’m not sure I can remember the last time I actually felt anything under a 4 awake and vertical or asleep.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

And I’m the guy that b!tches that I can’t use the BBQ, and that the dog is wet and stinky.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

Get yourself a Weber grill!

Even these cute economic models work great and they even have wheels so you can wheel ‘em under the roof edge or whatever when you’re not using them. http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/charcoal-series

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM

However, in all he meant collectivism, not collective anything.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

And he believes that is where salvation lays.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Good point..Just wait till someone really tries to fix this mess and the interest rates go up!!..:(

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:52 AM

However, in all he meant collectivism, not collective anything.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:29 AM

And he believes that is where salvation lays.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

It’s a basic tenant of Marxism.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Its just insane.

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Let them build their Utopia without you.

Starve the Looters (as in Ayn Rand’s bad characters).

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Heh heh, I’m not a snow person, but when it snows here I usually go out and enjoy it for a few minuets.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:43 AM

I’m spoiled by Colorado snow, I admit it: dry, powdery, huge drifts, lots and lots of it.

California has that sticky snow, damper than in the Rockies, so it’s not as, well…not as lovely.

California snow packs hard so it works for snowboarding but nothing beats Colorado powder.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:53 AM

It is overdue..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 12:49 AM

Aw, definitely one of their best!

I say we PUSH back against this corrupt regime!

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:54 AM

We’re all getting $25 Grand! Thanks to GYM!

Did your household make less than $50,000 and have a net worth under $200,000? Fairness requires a break for you. Our tax plan will send out lovely U. S. Treasury payments of $25,000 each this year..Think of what you could do with that money…pay bills..a new car..education aid…just elect us to give you the fair shot you deserve!

Just be grateful that a candidate never ran on the proposition that they could take a slice of net worth and raise taxes on the rich to a definite extent to make such an award.

This message brought to you by the “Get your money party”.

IlikedAUH2O on December 30, 2012 at 12:54 AM

I just read that among those with $200,000 plus yearly incomes Obama won the most recent election by 6 points, or maybe it was 8 points. Let them have the higher taxes they voted for. Why alienate those making less than $200,000 a year for them?

VorDaj on December 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

And he believes that is where salvation lays.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:51 AM

It’s a basic tenant of Marxism.

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:52 AM

Not for him and Michelle de Obamanette. They want to live like Louis XV and Madame de Pompadour, laughing at all the other fools, especially their minion, before they cut their heads off.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

The Marxists will send the hangman. I hope the horse’s name is Mac: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlR1mgjMyrA

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM

lol…you RainLovers have an answer for everything!

I’m voting SunParty…and raising ya a 4-zone, long-burner natural-gas grill (with optional smoker Box)

oh…and a dry, fresh-smelling crazy dog.

(I’m the guy at the umbrella table with the bloody mary)

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Resist We Much, you are doing great work.

davidk on December 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Let them have the higher taxes they voted for.

Indeed

Why alienate those making less than $200,000 a year for them?

VorDaj on December 30, 2012 at 12:55 AM

Because they also voted for him, believing the thug when he said that he “cares for the middle class”. Let them also suffer and find out how much he hates them, and the poor too. 11% of those who pay zero taxes now would have to pay if the cliff happens. It would be very schadenfreudig to observe the awakening.

Let them all pay. Over the cliff, Obama first. He must be exposed.

If only Boehner and McConnell had a pair, alas. OUT with both, asap. Install a speaker who’s not even in congress. There is no such requirement. Primary McConnell.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 12:50 AM

lol…you RainLovers have an answer for everything!

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 12:57 AM

I’ve got sensitive, very fair skin, and I like being outofdoors, so intense sun areas and times pose a problem for me. Plus, swimming early am and pm in the ocean is when the sharks are at their hungriest so there’s that — limits to when I can enjoy the beach and ocean due to sun exposure.

So when it rains, I get to forget all that sun coverup and skincare stuff and enjoy myself more. Same with snow-days.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Starve the beast didn’t fail it was really tried. Yes taxes were cut but in order to keep spending borrowing was increased. The beast just got fat on borrowed money. The GOP is complicit in the whole scam. If we are going to starve the beast then no borrowing or printing money by the fed should be allowed.

chemman on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Starve the beast didn’t fail it was wasn’t really tried.

chemman on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

FIFM

chemman on December 30, 2012 at 1:02 AM

I think he’s out attempting to pawn his tambourine so he can buy a bottle of Night Train… ;p

SWalker on December 30, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Bwaaahh. Hilarious. (:

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Add this to your trackings.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Indeed. And won’t many other Obama voters be shocked when they find out that Dear Leader needs to expand those increases to those earning UNDER $250k.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:04 AM

he “cares for the middle class”…

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 12:59 AM

That’s one of Obama’s most prized bombasts as it’s also one of his most deceiving.

He “cares” about his idea that the US needs to be fundamentally remade into his Communist Tribal Village.

I don’t understand why people believe Obama’s incredulous boasts. He’s so clearly a performer with an ulterior motive.

People who voted for him are said to say they “believe Obama cares about (them).” It’s incredible that they are quite so gullible and easily entranced by a Cardboard Man.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 1:06 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Me say hi.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:06 AM

MSU just got VERY lucky!

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

ok…now I just feel guilty.

This is almost as bad as the time I asked the waitress “when are you due” – and she replied “I’m not pregnant”.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:11 AM

Me say hi.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Me say howdy. :)

So, can you give me a hint about your latest top-secret invention? Will it save us from Obama’s destructive intentions, or just steam the perfect rice?

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:13 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Latest invention is transparent food. Your dishes will always sparkle and parents won’t know if their kids have eaten all their veggies.

Plus you can throw it at my head and I won’t duck because I won’t be able to see it.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM

, I get to forget all that sun coverup and skincare stuff and enjoy myself more. Same with snow-days.

Lourdes on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

…come to Michigan!…we only average 84 days of sun a year..clouds clouds clouds…and we have a foot of snow on the ground right now! (:-<)

KOOLAID2 on December 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM

This is almost as bad as the time I asked the waitress “when are you due” – and she replied “I’m not pregnant”.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:11 AM

NEVER ask a woman when she is due…unless she is wearing a Baby On Board shirt or some such. It’s just not worth it. Learned that lesson the hard way.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Very nice..Always liked that band..You played one of their best..:)

Dire Straits on December 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Smart move. I usually ask them if they know who the father is.

Ok I made that up but the transparent food is real.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Plus you can throw it at my head and I won’t duck because I won’t be able to see it.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Me likey. ;)

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:18 AM

NEVER ask a woman when she is due…unless she is wearing a Baby On Board shirt or some such. It’s just not worth it. Learned that lesson the hard way.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Have NEVER uttered those words since.

(in my defense she did say “why does everyone keep asking me that”? – it was actually freaky)

I was mortified…I’m fairly certain I ate a spit-burger that day.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:21 AM

This is almost as bad as the time I asked the waitress “when are you due” – and she replied “I’m not pregnant”.

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:11 AM

NEVER ask a woman when she is due…unless she is wearing a Baby On Board shirt or some such. It’s just not worth it. Learned that lesson the hard way.

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:16 AM

That’s one of the great things about HA-QOTD….

one finds that he isn’t the only one who has done some really dumb things.

:)

Solaratov on December 30, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Hope you and little 7% had a Merry Christmas..:)

Dire Straits on December 29, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Thank you Dire, we did…

… I hope you had a plesant one as well.

I’ll join the discussion tomorrow, time to put Little 7% to bed…

… Night all!

Seven Percent Solution on December 30, 2012 at 1:22 AM

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Hint – work on inventing printed food, like printed guns.

Schadenfreude on December 30, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Ok I made that up but the transparent food is real.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:18 AM

Plus you can throw it at my head and I won’t duck because I won’t be able to see it.

SparkPlug on December 30, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Suddenly I’m interested :-0

Tim_CA on December 30, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Starve the beast didn’t fail it was really tried. Yes taxes were cut but in order to keep spending borrowing was increased. The beast just got fat on borrowed money. The GOP is complicit in the whole scam. If we are going to starve the beast then no borrowing or printing money by the fed should be allowed.

chemman on December 30, 2012 at 1:01 AM

I disagree. Even if we had a balanced budget amendment in place right now, we would still face a growing government, because the progressivity of our tax system allows politicians to convince citizens that somebody else will pay for their goodies.

STB maneuvered us into a situation where almost half the country doesnt pay federal income taxes anymore. Under the paradigm of STB thats an achievement but why would any of these people care about DC spending binges? They wont, because they will never see the bill. And some conservatives cheer that.

Valkyriepundit on December 30, 2012 at 1:23 AM

Solaratov on December 30, 2012 at 1:21 AM

Truth. :)

4Grace on December 30, 2012 at 1:24 AM

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