Quotes of the day
posted at 8:31 pm on December 29, 2012 by Allahpundit
New Yorkers of all income levels got a rude awakening yesterday when they saw in The Post how much more they will pay in taxes next year without a fiscal-cliff deal by Jan. 1.
“It’s that much higher?” asked IT worker Vikas Kataria, 34, who discovered that his combined household income of about $250,000 per year will cost him nearly $10,000 more in taxes.
“I thought it was a couple thousand — but that’s a lot,” said Kataria, who works at Merrill Lynch in Manhattan and is married to a systems analyst for a brokerage firm. “That’s huge!”…
“What am I supposed to do, work harder?” Hagon said. “I don’t want to find myself in front of my store dead with a heart attack!”
Whether or not a Senate deal can be reached is anyone’s guess, though it seems unlikely considering all the false starts that have characterized negotiations up to this point. Whether McConnell would allow for an up-or-down vote on a Democratic-authored bill is even less certain. On Friday evening, Reid’s office announced that it was preparing such a bill for a Monday vote as a contingency plan…
[A White House] official argued that any final deal that emerged from the Senate would have to be crafted with an eye toward garnering Democratic support in the House. Reid, after all, wouldn’t sign off on a bill that set the threshold for tax hikes too high. And since Boehner’s failed “Plan B” proposal showed he was unable to pass legislation raising rates only on millionaires, Democratic votes in both chambers would be needed.
“Whatever McConnell and Reid cook up is something that Nancy Pelosi has to support,” the official said. “The Minority Leader will have a powerful role in these discussions.”
The last-minute tax and spending deal being discussed in the Senate would do little to reduce the deficit, and could actually expand it, leaving difficult choices about Medicare, Social Security, and the country’s borrowing limit until next year…
This weekend, with talks moving closer to the deadline, the only item being discussed that would reduce the deficit is a White House proposal to let the Bush-era tax cuts expire for upper-income households. White House officials believe raising tax rates on income above $250,000, combined with changes in capital-gains, dividend, and estate-tax rules, would raise roughly $950 billion over 10 years, a level that is short of their $1.2 trillion goal. That means the White House is likely to try and pursue more tax increases as part of any subsequent budget debate in 2013…
The other items being discussed as part of the slimmed-down package would cost the government. One would extend emergency unemployment benefits for one year, at a cost of roughly $30 billion. Another would prevent Medicare payments to doctors from being cut close to 27%. This change would cost another $10 billion, according to estimates.
The big-ticket item hanging over the Reid-McConnell talks will be the income level at which taxes can rise. Boehner failed to win sufficient GOP support for a plan to increase taxes for income over $1 million, and Obama has previously upped his offer from $250,000 to $400,000. McConnell and Reid are also trying to agree on the level to set taxes on estates that are transferred after the death of an owner.
At the meeting, Boehner made clear any efforts to eliminate pending cuts to defense and domestic programs — about $109 billion next year — must be replaced by spending cuts to other programs. Republicans later said it appeared that the so-called sequester would not be addressed in a final agreement. A final deal appears unlikely to include an increase of the $16.4 trillion national debt limit, which will be reached on Monday, meaning that Congress will almost certainly renew the battle over taxes and spending immediately in the new year.
Multiple GOP lawmakers indicated that their goal now is to get through the fiscal cliff standoff one way or another, at which point Republicans can regroup and focus their efforts on extracting concessions from the White House in exchange for a debt-limit boost.
“Give the president whatever he wants [on taxes],” Grassley said hypothetically. “All it covers is somewhere between eight and 12 percent of the $1.1 trillion deficit.
“When you get beyond this fiscal cliff deal, the public starts looking at what we’re trying to do to cut down on spending as opposed to increasing taxes, that strengthens our hand,” he added.
A House GOP aide said the debt limit provides a “natural venue” for Republicans to continue to push for preferred fiscal policies, once the fiscal cliff is in the rearview mirror.
“A top Obama administration official” told The Huffington Post that “they don’t view an unresolved debt ceiling fight as too generous a concession because, as a matter of principle, the president will not negotiate with Republicans over raising it down the road.”…
If Obama drops the debt ceiling demand, he’s setting the stage for another round of budget talks in late February, during which the GOP will demand long-term spending reforms in exchange for an immediate increase in the debt ceiling.
A pair of GOP senators, confident Congress will head off the tax hikes set to kick in within days, are already turning their attention to entitlements and the debt ceiling.
Tennessee Sens. Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander pitched a plan on Friday to cut federal spending by $1 trillion — much of it from Medicare — in exchange for increasing the nation’s borrowing limit by that amount. The plan would raise the Medicare eligibly age to 67 and require wealthier Medicare users to pay higher premiums. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has estimated extraordinary measures can push the necessity of Congress addressing the debt ceiling until perhaps February.
“Here we are on Dec. 29 without a serious proposal before us to deal with the biggest issue, which is entitlements,” Corker said. “There’s been a lot of discussions about figuring out a way to deal with the … revenue side and at least getting that portion out of the way. Since we know it’s going to happen either before the 31st or after.”
Cliff-jumping also would mean that instead of spending the early weeks of January laying out big plans for a second-term agenda, Obama and his staff will be bogged down with negotiations over the myriad issues wrapped up in the cliff, including everything from the tax cuts and across-the-board spending cuts to the alternative minimum tax and the “doc fix,” the formula under which physicians receive reimbursement for treating Medicare patients. In the White House’s preferred scenario, a deal addressing key elements of the fiscal cliff would have been clinched by the end of this year and that could have been used to tee up negotiations in 2013 over a grand bargain on the budget. Obama has set a goal of reaching a long-term budget deal by the first half of next year and hopes to notch up an agreement as part of his legacy.
Not only will the grand-bargain discussions need to await an eventual resolution of the fiscal cliff, but other items on Obama’s second-term agenda risk getting pushed to the back burner, too, including gun control and immigration.
“I think everyone is trying to look busy, so when we go over, they can say, well, we tried,” Brooks said. “He came back from Hawaii. He had to do something. And so they had a meeting. If you don’t have new offers, you are not really making progress. You could have a nice frank exchange, but they are in the business of making a deal. And there is really, as far as we know, no real evidence that they moved. So I remain convinced, as I have been, that we are probably going to go over.”
Under the most likely scenario, Republicans will get nothing — nothing — in return for giving in on tax rates for the highest-income Americans. No spending cuts, at least no serious spending cuts beyond what are already included in sequestration, would be part of the deal done on Sunday or Monday, if that is indeed what happens…
As for spending cuts, particularly in entitlements, some Senate Republicans say they will press for those in January or February, during the coming battle over raising the nation’s debt ceiling. They believe that fight will give them leverage to extract real concessions from the White House and Democrats on spending. It’s not entirely clear why they believe that so strongly; Republicans will certainly take a beating in the press if they appear ready to push the nation toward default to win unpopular cuts. Nevertheless, some in the GOP are readying themselves for that fight…
So a deal will most likely be done. But the bottom line is that the fiscal cliff fight will not end happily for Republicans. They will have given in on what was an article of faith — that taxes should not be raised on anybody, poor or rich — in return for essentially nothing. All they will have is a plan to fight again, soon.
It’s difficult to find a Republican operative who is willing to say on the record that going over the fiscal cliff next Tuesday is a good idea. Provoking a crisis is bad politics: Republicans are resigned to taking the blame. And it’s bad for their policy agenda: They will likely be cornered into a broader tax hike than the best deal they could get from President Barack Obama today, and with none of the spending cuts that might now be on the table.
And yet, the dominant emotion among most Republicans here is one of sheer resignation.
“It’s a shit show,” one prominent Republican told BuzzFeed of the GOP’s messaging position. “Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”
Congress can prevent it from happening, if they act now. Leaders in Congress are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class, and I believe we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time.
But if an agreement isn’t reached in time, then I’ll urge the Senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for Americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction.
I believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities – as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote.
The Republican-controlled House has taken a step in the right direction. The House has already passed bills to protect all Americans from burdensome tax increases. In addition, they’ve passed legislation to replace damaging across-the-board spending cuts with responsible targeted ones, and to bring our nation’s record debt under control. But instead of working across the aisle and considering the House-passed plan to protect taxpayers, Senate Democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand.
The President’s proposal to raise taxes on the top 2 percent of Americans won’t even pay one-third of the annual interest that’s now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. In fact, the President’s tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. Americans deserve to know: What does the President propose we do for the other 357 days of the year?
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The talking point king. Congrats!!!
Never an original thought.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM
As long as HAL is allowed..
Flucking is allowed..
:)
[I guess it wasn't..I had to change the word]
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM
The average is bumped up by the effective rate paid by those evil millionaires.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM
LOL. You appealing to “common sense” is like Barky appealing to “math” – and we all know that the Indonesian Imbecile didn’t crack 420 on the math section of his SATs. You guys are a laugh riot. I just wish someone would put you back in the sandbox where you can’t do any damage, except to yourselves.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 10:12 PM
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:10 PM
I guess I am pretty damn smart then!!!! lmao
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:12 PM
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 10:05 PM
I have several theories after..oh..5 yrs here?
That is the M.O.
Take a dump and jet.
Riles the thread up.
Until recently, with all the serious news..
HA way down on comment count.
Throw in a Palin thread, atheist,abortion,RP..
always a winner.
There are reasons..but I won’t go there with my 2 cents. Maybe one day in another town or hall.
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM
How did mine get thru?
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM
I agree.
KCB on May 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM
An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And no one can talk sense to an insufferable ass, of course
And especially, of course, if the insufferable ass is the famous Barack Obama
Go right to the source and ask the insufferable ass
He’ll give you the answer that deceivers will endorse
He’s always on a dissemblers course
Talk to Barack Obama
Barack Obama just yakkity yaks a streak and wastes your time of day
Does any sane person even believe anymore a single thing he has to say?
An insufferable ass is an insufferable ass, of course, of course
And this one’ll talk in prevaricating circles til his voice is hoarse
You never heard of a talking insufferable ass?
Well, listen to this
He is Barack Obama!
Cheshire Cat on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM
viking01 on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM
Even Allahpundit doesn’t come up with lines like that.
Cleombrotus on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM
See the IRS data and learn something instead of regurgitating TIRED, OLD TALKING POINTS.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM
When are we going to start talking about a Persecution Fund for those victimized by the IRS? These people and these groups should be reimbursed for the lawyers’ and accountants’ fees attributable to the excessive inquiry.
BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM
We go back in Political Time:
Could it be,that once Hopey got into POWER as POTUSA,
he planned Getting Evenism/Withism,er,REVENGE!!!!???
—————————————————–
IRS Investigates Church for Letting Obama Speak
February 26, 2008; 7:09 PM ET
******************************
The Internal Revenue Service has notified the United Church of Christ that the IRS has opened an investigation
into Senator Barack Obama’s address at the UCC’s 2007 General Synod.
The IRS is accusing the UCC of engaging in “political activities.”
I believe the “political activities” are on the other foot.
The UCC General Synod was in June of 2007, celebrating that denomination’s 50th Anniversary. It is only now fully nine months later,
when Senator Obama has become the front-runner in the race for President,
that this investigation is launched.
Further, the IRS did not contact the UCC or communicate with them while coming to this decision.
I was present when Senator Obama gave this speech at General Synod (along with 10,000 of my closest church friends and neighbors).
There were no campaign buttons, signs, electioneering or other such politically related activities.
Indeed, the UCC leadership took care to instruct the assembled about the fact that this was a faith event and we were welcoming a member of our church to talk to us about his personal faith in the public square.
It was an extraordinary speech. Pundits and competing candidates have criticized Senator Obama for being more about words than deeds.
This is, of course, just political noise,
but it is true that some words are more effective than others. This speech was an insightful, even luminous glimpse into the fundamental human dilemma of the search for meaning and purpose in life.
We may have to go back to Lincoln to find such a weaving of transcendent themes of meaning and purpose in the search for how we want to live as Americans. What is truly innovative in this speech by Obama and what makes it such an incredible model for how we engage the public square with our faith without
violating the separation of church and state,
is that he never collapses his faith in Jesus Christ into a narrow path to salvation; instead, he reaches out from the power of his faith in God to the universal human striving for meaning in a world where poverty and injustice threaten to drive us down and out into despair and nothingness. People want “a narrative arc to their lives” Obama said.
The narrative structure of the speech was to take the audience with him as he went from his conversion to a personal faith in Jesus Christ to the broad theme of meaning and purpose in human life.
He started talking about his work as a community organizer and his work with older church folk who confronted him about being more an observer of faith, than a believer. He decided he’d better find a community of faith.
So one Sunday, I put on one of the few clean jackets I had, and went over to Trinity United Church of Christ on 95th Street on the South Side of Chicago.
If anyone could think that’s engaging in “political activities”
than I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
Obama went on to say what I think is the truly innovative part of how he relates his faith to public service, not only in his own life, but also in the larger American journey.
But my journey is part of a larger journey – one shared by all who’ve ever sought to apply the values of their faith to our society. It’s a journey that takes us back to our nation’s founding, when none other than a UCC church inspired the Boston Tea Party and helped bring an Empire to its knees.
The temptation to empire is the temptation to persecute freedom, especially religious freedom, rather than respect and honor it. It is now another UCC church, the national United Church of Christ, that is standing up for individual freedom, especially the right to religious expression free of government persecution.
Read the full text of the speech and all the relevant documents by going to the UCC website and judge for yourself.
The “narrative arc” of this speech tracks the “narrative arc” of how we as Americans respect our Constitution and also passionately engage in public service as a higher calling.
There is true irony in the IRS investigating the UCC for the presentation of a speech
that may go down in history as one of the most profound articulations of how we as Americans live into transcendent meaning and purpose through our free, democratic institutions.
Truly that is ironic.
And sad.
http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/panelists/susan_brooks_thistlethwaite/2008/02/irs_investigates_church_for_le.html
canopfor on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM
Scrumpy the u is a greek u.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM
You may be common, but heaven knows, you have no sense.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Yah. Just curious. :) Another mystery down. Back to my search for the noble wood ape.
I dunno b9, it’s a bit like Canada. Hm.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM
How did my re-posting of your post get through but the F word in my post caused it to go into moderation..?
Hmmmm
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Anyone else hear crickets?
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Pigford II!
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM
What is ” fair share” ? Give a %age that’ll make you happy .
So tax cuts don’t benefit job creation?
The explain this , this from your fool in CA supported by union thugs :
The two-year, $200 million extension to the movie and television tax credit program has been signed into law by California Gov. Jerry Brown. It ensures that there will be a program to stem runaway production at least through July 1, 2017.
…….“By creating tens of thousands of jobs and pumping billions into our economy, the film and television tax credit program has truly been a statewide economic stimulus package,” said Fuentes. “Extending this incentive program will prevent production companies from moving their projects, jobs and spending out of California.”
Did they tell you the meaning of ” common sense”?
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Scrumpy..
Are you holding out?
:)
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Not even the Democrats — the Inner Party Democrats, not the riffraff like HAL — believe in that crap. What’s laughable is HAL’s misguided belief that his party in Washington still cares about the “little guy”.
The only “guy” the Democrats care about is the plutocrat who pays for underclass busing come election time and the transgendered “guy” looking for federal $$$ for a sex-change operation. :-)
Punchenko on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM
What part of my share is your “FAIR SHARE”?
Just curious…
ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM
I think I could get up to that % if I include federal, state, and local taxes, plus both my and my employers contributions to SS, Medicare and Medicaid, and then removed my contribution to my family health plan from my income. However, the federal income tax portion is less than Romney’s rate.
Count to 10 on May 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM
They can never define “common sense” or “fair share” because their definition shifts with their goals.
Sooner or later the liberal trash will get around to stuffing people into gas chambers and chalking it up as a “common sense” solution to the problem of resource depletion.
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Cheshire Cat on May 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM
So cool!!
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM
YES! We want our money. :-D
Punchenko on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Do you have a savings?
Then you have too much..
HAL.
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Well you need to sing this song to your fellow right wingers. They are the ones advocating “job creators” should pay relatively no taxes while you foot the bill.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM
Yep, he and Sun Tzu are the only China men worth listening to.
TXUS on May 18, 2013 at 10:18 PM
If I beat the crap out of HAL, there would be nothing left of him. Crap is all that he is.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM
I think CW meant that the filter will let it through, but we still aren’t going to use it. :)
Up to you though. Free country.
Sort of.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Drudge has a link to the IRS seizing medical records. Obamacare would be their only reason for doing so, so I wonder where this order came from? HAs anyone heard of this before?
clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM
Scrumpy the u is a greek u.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM
Aha I copied yours lol… cuz otherwise it looks normal!!
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM
I’d be willing to risk that.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM
I’ll stick to NOT using it, it’s not lady like and I am a Lady!!!
Sometimes ;)
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Folks like us threaten that but won’t do it because it is ingrained into our souls to get up and go to work everyday and work hard to get a good salary. The gubmint sucking loser, lowlifes like HAL have figured that part out. I will give them 1 minute of round number 5 in a 12 round 119 – 97 title fight.
VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Legitimate claims only. Kind of like a tea party rally, leaving the locale no worse off for having had the event held there.
BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Well if you are a billionaire, paying the same 30% im paying is fair
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM
I say “eh” too..go figure. :)
I have a personal..sorta reason for my
formatting.
~
You comment odd too! btw…
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM
OK, but I’m going to need a body condom. :-)
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:21 PM
– that’s . . . trans-dimensional, frood. A man who really knows where his towel is. :)
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Good bye progressive agenda.
Good bye to benevolent government, fueled by higher taxes.
You didn’t build it? You didn’t even want it.
You wanted to shut up everyone who didn’t believe as you did, because that’s the only way you could get a majority and win.
You had to shut up enough people.
So now your agenda is blown by your Nazi-like practices in practicing your benevolent government.
Enjoy it while it lasted.
itsspideyman on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM
B back later..
bazil9 on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Exactly!
ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Meh. I was wrong anyway. That’s not what CW meant.
Shit!
lol — K, enough of that.
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Thanks!…always liked that song, have it on my ipod, my mother hated it. Wonder why? Maybe that catholic girl stuff…definitely.
BeachBum on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM
I dont fight or hit women.
HotAirLib on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM
The strawman king.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Why in the heck are y’all wasting good tunage playin’ time gettin’ in the sewer with that dirty douche bag drinkin’ lyin’ idiot HAL?
It’s Saturday night, better folks are here to flirt with and we’re mostly vertical.
Spring finally reached east Texas. Ninety degrees and humid as all get out. I worked out doors any way. Very productive and now its time to drink.
You’ve been gettin’ the wrong burritos.
That’s right, I’m differn’t.
I miss Schlitz. The real Schlitz, not that swill they were sellin’ before they finally gave up.
I also miss drinkin’ it with my German grandfather and uncles.
cozmo on May 18, 2013 at 10:23 PM
No shit. We can beat the hell out of you, pansy boy.
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM
*pulls body condom from bulk-pack, hands to resist*
*offers harness*
*puts harness back*
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:24 PM
Folks, we are now into “Graduated Harvard Law” territory with this one. I can’t stomach anymore of it. Gotta leave.
VegasRick on May 18, 2013 at 10:25 PM
So you remember the lesson little Sally taught you in the second grade.
VorDaj on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM
You aren’t paying 30% of your income to federal income taxes. If you added up all of the thing that you are including in your 30% total, you would still find that the billionaires are paying a larger fraction than you, and a raw number that you could probably fit your lifetime earnings into with room to spare.
Count to 10 on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM
[Scrumpy] I would like to apply for a 501 d?
[IRS] What words do you use on conservative blogs?
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM
In COZMO’s Honor
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM
Fish around. I saw this about four or so days ago. It happened in San Diego or around there. Some insurance company (I think) was under an audit, and the IRS took over its audiences around the time of the NCAA tourney. As the IRS was confiscating (unnecessarily) the records of millions of insureds, some of the agents were ordering pizzas to the business and watching NCAA tourney games on media devices owned by the business. I think the business has recently sued the IRS in federal court.
BuckeyeSam on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM
1. Hmm. :) 2. I do not!
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM
Ladies and gentlemen ,
we’ve found Warren Buffet’s ( the tax cheat’s) secretary……woooohooo..
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM
HAL is 41.5 > 30.0 ?
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:27 PM
lol
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Schlitz got nothing on Blatz. Or Griesedieck for that matter.
I used to drink Black Label (Not Carling) beer. The box said it was imported from Canada. Made in Detroit. My cats Chicken Pot Pie and Wompus loved the boxes.
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM
I had a nice day on the boat so I’ll forgive your ignorance this one time.
I AM a job creator, perfesser, but I’ve been less of a job creator the last four years because you and your fellow leftist trash thought it would be a great idea to install the political equivalent of a mail room clerk as CEO of the world’s preeminent company.
The money your Dog Eating Retard and his criminal minions sucked out of me has meant that I haven’t expanded, hired, or upgraded. Yet I drive by the state welfare office in Minneapolis at the start of each month and see car after car with Illinois plates, your fellow travelers comin’ on up from Chicago to get them some fine Minnesota welfare.
So spare me the clownish antics, you have no idea how close people like me are to simply selling off and retiring which I could do tomorrow if I chose to. Because if we do in any appreciable numbers your world is going to go to hell very quickly.
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:26 PM
WE ALL SHOULD!!!!
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Wow…fireworks out of Virginia. The “Tea Party is Dead” hypothesis rejected once again. Anyone have any thoughts on E.W. Jackson?
Robert_Paulson on May 18, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Thanks. I won’t ask what you are doing with a stash of body condoms. lol
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM
HAL must be Warren Buffet’s secretary..
MSM
Electrongod on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM
BUCKEYE SAM:
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM
No he ain’t. HAL ain’t even good at lying.
To hot for socks.
cozmo on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Hey, douchebag. “Billionaire” is a reference to WEALTH. You are talking abotu INCOME TAXES, not wealth taxes (not that you would really understand the difference).
Further, where did you get the idea that a flat percentage rate is the definition of “fair”? That’s a retarded concept. People understand, intuitively, that as absolute numbers go higher, the seeming “fairness” of percentage goes lower. That’s why percentage charges generally are reduced for larger transactions – everywhere but in government, of course, where idiot America-haters like you have made it exactly the opposite (though now you are trying to act like Steve Forbes and proposing a flat tax – LOL).
People observe this simple phenomenon with percentages all the time – such as small companies that have growth rates that large companies could never come close to. Because percentages with respect to small raw numbers are different than for large ones. Fairness, to anyone with a brain, would involve a lowering percentage as income increases, but this still stands separate from the issue with people who are “billionaires” and don’t get an income but make money through investing their money and taking the risk of losing their investments – which is something that you don’t do and, obviously, wouldn’t understand.
Now, could you please show a smidgeon of decency and go away? Leave. Vamoose. Disappear.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 18, 2013 at 10:30 PM
Don’t give him what he wants!
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Even if you are audited, I don’t think the IRS gets to violate HIPAA or sift through medical records.
clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM
HAL do you know how to answer even the simplest of questions?
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Considering social welfare benefits exceeded 2/3rds of the budget last year you have it backwards on what is minor and what is major.
chemman on May 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Yeah, OK
tom daschle concerned on May 18, 2013 at 10:32 PM
What a freaking stupid reply.
Even your hero Warren Buffett’s not paying that.
ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:33 PM
That comment may well be the most deadly serious thing I’ve ever seen you write, Bishop.
Count to 10 on May 18, 2013 at 10:34 PM
If a billionaire lives solely off of his assets, he doesn’t pay a dime.
I’ll let you figure out why.
Hint: Income tax
BTW: A federal wealth tax is unconstitutional.
The Unconstitutionality of a Wealth Tax
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Why is this medical records incident NOT bigger news, especially with the IRS enforcing the purchase of insurance policies/fines? Nobody was told that they’d be delving into personal info, but with the targeting scandal, it all makes sense. As this was a clear violation, were the people informed of the security breaches? Under law they must be….but who really thinks SIbelius will go against Obama’s pet enforcement pig?
clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Furthermore you fascist monkey, the manner in which you just dismiss a very powerful arm of the federal government targeting American citizens simply because of their perceived political stance is pretty damn pathetic.
I don’t care what political stripe you wear, every American should be furious and demanding scalps from the people who made and allowed it to happen. The fact that you don’t, that you actually take delight in your fellow citizens being attacked by their own government, makes you a Nazi; you know it and I know it.
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM
I’m in the process of the same , 90% there
burrata on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Chart of the Day: What ‘Social Democracy’ Looks Like
Resist We Much on May 18, 2013 at 10:38 PM
I don’t think I’ve ever seen you this angry.
gophergirl on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Obama is a child, with the leadership abilities of a child, and now he’s the leader of the free world.
Paul-Cincy on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM
I don’t care what political stripe you wear, every American should be furious and demanding scalps from the people who made and allowed it to happen. The fact that you don’t, that you actually take delight in your fellow citizens being attacked by their own government, makes you a Nazi; you know it and I know it.
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:37 PM
WOW Powerful stuff!! ^5
Gonna steal that!! :-)
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Obama is Billy Mumy in the Twilight Zone
clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM
I’m looking over some HIPAA stuff right now, since your first comment, and I’m not sure there’s any real protection there. The IRS is the enforcement arm of Obamacare now, anyway; they are the national health care system, or a large integrated part.
But I’m not sure. I’m closing out this HIPAA stuff. Not my field. :)
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM
HAL must be off giving the crickets BJs . I thought I heard a few moans in there.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Legal or not this should be a bigger story. Corporations go to great lengths and costs to comply with HIPAA.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:45 PM
I came in late, but I think this pretty much sums up this administration, and their lap dogs nicely.
I’m at the point where I don’t give a fig whether I’m targeted or not anymore…bring it you f’ing thugs!
ccrosby on May 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM
The Privacy Rule includes both civil and criminal penalties for violations of privacy. Generally, penalties are expected to be assessed in cases where organizations or individuals act with willful neglect or intent to cause harm. Civil penalties are specified at $100 per violation, not to exceed $25,000 per person per year for identical violations. Criminal penalties for wrongful disclosure of PHI can go up to $250,000 and/or 10 years imprisonment if the offense is committed with intent to sell, transfer, or use PHI for commercial advantage, personal gain, or malicious harm.
clnurnberg on May 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM
But that’s you, not them.
*shrug*
Axe on May 18, 2013 at 10:47 PM
I’m there, too, and if someone as small as me, with only a few employees, about 2K at last count, goes Galt, I can only imagine how many billionaires, with hundreds of thousands of employees, are thinking the same. It’s only a matter of time or destiny if or when the bell tolls.
Just hope the barnacles wake up at some point before their ships sink away.
TXUS on May 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM
I’m just so tired of this pap these people are blowing out of their pieholes, demorats and Republicans. The new budget is going to hammer people like me for another 2% as if I’m not already getting raped because I choose to work and build my businesses.
I almost passed out today filling the boat tanks, $4.51 per gallon, and last night I watched Klobuchar looking all concerned about the rising cost and saying she was going to demand answers of the refineries.
Demand answers? You stupid clown, Amy, your party WANTS this. Jeebus I hate these people, and I hate the human sewage like HAL who are furiously digging the national grave and asking “Is it deep enough yet, because I can go deeper.”
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM
HAL, as usual , when confronted with hard facts, runs away.
CW on May 18, 2013 at 10:51 PM
Bishop on May 18, 2013 at 10:49 PM
You said it way better than I could and I heartily THANK YOU!!!!
(hugs)
Scrumpy on May 18, 2013 at 10:52 PM
Hey, Harvard Law grad: That right there demonstrates you don’t know what the term “effective tax rate” really means. You really should try educating yourself before commenting here. Since you have the contrarian point of view, you should have a grasp of the facts, otherwise, it just makes you look like the !@#n fool you are.
AZfederalist on May 18, 2013 at 10:53 PM
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