Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 29, 2012 by Allahpundit

New Yorkers of all income levels got a rude awakening yesterday when they saw in The Post how much more they will pay in taxes next year without a fiscal-cliff deal by Jan. 1.

“It’s that much higher?” asked IT worker Vikas Kataria, 34, who discovered that his combined household income of about $250,000 per year will cost him nearly $10,000 more in taxes.

“I thought it was a couple thousand — but that’s a lot,” said Kataria, who works at Merrill Lynch in Manhattan and is married to a systems analyst for a brokerage firm. “That’s huge!”…

“What am I supposed to do, work harder?” Hagon said. “I don’t want to find myself in front of my store dead with a heart attack!”

***

Whether or not a Senate deal can be reached is anyone’s guess, though it seems unlikely considering all the false starts that have characterized negotiations up to this point. Whether McConnell would allow for an up-or-down vote on a Democratic-authored bill is even less certain. On Friday evening, Reid’s office announced that it was preparing such a bill for a Monday vote as a contingency plan…

[A White House] official argued that any final deal that emerged from the Senate would have to be crafted with an eye toward garnering Democratic support in the House. Reid, after all, wouldn’t sign off on a bill that set the threshold for tax hikes too high. And since Boehner’s failed “Plan B” proposal showed he was unable to pass legislation raising rates only on millionaires, Democratic votes in both chambers would be needed.

“Whatever McConnell and Reid cook up is something that Nancy Pelosi has to support,” the official said. “The Minority Leader will have a powerful role in these discussions.”

***

The last-minute tax and spending deal being discussed in the Senate would do little to reduce the deficit, and could actually expand it, leaving difficult choices about Medicare, Social Security, and the country’s borrowing limit until next year…

This weekend, with talks moving closer to the deadline, the only item being discussed that would reduce the deficit is a White House proposal to let the Bush-era tax cuts expire for upper-income households. White House officials believe raising tax rates on income above $250,000, combined with changes in capital-gains, dividend, and estate-tax rules, would raise roughly $950 billion over 10 years, a level that is short of their $1.2 trillion goal. That means the White House is likely to try and pursue more tax increases as part of any subsequent budget debate in 2013…

The other items being discussed as part of the slimmed-down package would cost the government. One would extend emergency unemployment benefits for one year, at a cost of roughly $30 billion. Another would prevent Medicare payments to doctors from being cut close to 27%. This change would cost another $10 billion, according to estimates.

***

The big-ticket item hanging over the Reid-McConnell talks will be the income level at which taxes can rise. Boehner failed to win sufficient GOP support for a plan to increase taxes for income over $1 million, and Obama has previously upped his offer from $250,000 to $400,000. McConnell and Reid are also trying to agree on the level to set taxes on estates that are transferred after the death of an owner.

At the meeting, Boehner made clear any efforts to eliminate pending cuts to defense and domestic programs — about $109 billion next year — must be replaced by spending cuts to other programs. Republicans later said it appeared that the so-called sequester would not be addressed in a final agreement. A final deal appears unlikely to include an increase of the $16.4 trillion national debt limit, which will be reached on Monday, meaning that Congress will almost certainly renew the battle over taxes and spending immediately in the new year.

***

Multiple GOP lawmakers indicated that their goal now is to get through the fiscal cliff standoff one way or another, at which point Republicans can regroup and focus their efforts on extracting concessions from the White House in exchange for a debt-limit boost.

“Give the president whatever he wants [on taxes],” Grassley said hypothetically. “All it covers is somewhere between eight and 12 percent of the $1.1 trillion deficit.

“When you get beyond this fiscal cliff deal, the public starts looking at what we’re trying to do to cut down on spending as opposed to increasing taxes, that strengthens our hand,” he added.

A House GOP aide said the debt limit provides a “natural venue” for Republicans to continue to push for preferred fiscal policies, once the fiscal cliff is in the rearview mirror.

***

“A top Obama administration official” told The Huffington Post that “they don’t view an unresolved debt ceiling fight as too generous a concession because, as a matter of principle, the president will not negotiate with Republicans over raising it down the road.”…

If Obama drops the debt ceiling demand, he’s setting the stage for another round of budget talks in late February, during which the GOP will demand long-term spending reforms in exchange for an immediate increase in the debt ceiling.

***

A pair of GOP senators, confident Congress will head off the tax hikes set to kick in within days, are already turning their attention to entitlements and the debt ceiling.

Tennessee Sens. Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander pitched a plan on Friday to cut federal spending by $1 trillion — much of it from Medicare — in exchange for increasing the nation’s borrowing limit by that amount. The plan would raise the Medicare eligibly age to 67 and require wealthier Medicare users to pay higher premiums. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has estimated extraordinary measures can push the necessity of Congress addressing the debt ceiling until perhaps February.

“Here we are on Dec. 29 without a serious proposal before us to deal with the biggest issue, which is entitlements,” Corker said. “There’s been a lot of discussions about figuring out a way to deal with the … revenue side and at least getting that portion out of the way. Since we know it’s going to happen either before the 31st or after.”

***

Cliff-jumping also would mean that instead of spending the early weeks of January laying out big plans for a second-term agenda, Obama and his staff will be bogged down with negotiations over the myriad issues wrapped up in the cliff, including everything from the tax cuts and across-the-board spending cuts to the alternative minimum tax and the “doc fix,” the formula under which physicians receive reimbursement for treating Medicare patients. In the White House’s preferred scenario, a deal addressing key elements of the fiscal cliff would have been clinched by the end of this year and that could have been used to tee up negotiations in 2013 over a grand bargain on the budget. Obama has set a goal of reaching a long-term budget deal by the first half of next year and hopes to notch up an agreement as part of his legacy.

Not only will the grand-bargain discussions need to await an eventual resolution of the fiscal cliff, but other items on Obama’s second-term agenda risk getting pushed to the back burner, too, including gun control and immigration.

***

“I think everyone is trying to look busy, so when we go over, they can say, well, we tried,” Brooks said. “He came back from Hawaii. He had to do something. And so they had a meeting. If you don’t have new offers, you are not really making progress. You could have a nice frank exchange, but they are in the business of making a deal. And there is really, as far as we know, no real evidence that they moved. So I remain convinced, as I have been, that we are probably going to go over.”

***

Under the most likely scenario, Republicans will get nothing — nothing — in return for giving in on tax rates for the highest-income Americans. No spending cuts, at least no serious spending cuts beyond what are already included in sequestration, would be part of the deal done on Sunday or Monday, if that is indeed what happens…

As for spending cuts, particularly in entitlements, some Senate Republicans say they will press for those in January or February, during the coming battle over raising the nation’s debt ceiling. They believe that fight will give them leverage to extract real concessions from the White House and Democrats on spending. It’s not entirely clear why they believe that so strongly; Republicans will certainly take a beating in the press if they appear ready to push the nation toward default to win unpopular cuts. Nevertheless, some in the GOP are readying themselves for that fight…

So a deal will most likely be done. But the bottom line is that the fiscal cliff fight will not end happily for Republicans. They will have given in on what was an article of faith — that taxes should not be raised on anybody, poor or rich — in return for essentially nothing. All they will have is a plan to fight again, soon.

***

It’s difficult to find a Republican operative who is willing to say on the record that going over the fiscal cliff next Tuesday is a good idea. Provoking a crisis is bad politics: Republicans are resigned to taking the blame. And it’s bad for their policy agenda: They will likely be cornered into a broader tax hike than the best deal they could get from President Barack Obama today, and with none of the spending cuts that might now be on the table.

And yet, the dominant emotion among most Republicans here is one of sheer resignation.

“It’s a shit show,” one prominent Republican told BuzzFeed of the GOP’s messaging position. “Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”

***

Congress can prevent it from happening, if they act now. Leaders in Congress are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class, and I believe we may be able to reach an agreement that can pass both houses in time.

But if an agreement isn’t reached in time, then I’ll urge the Senate to hold an up-or-down vote on a basic package that protects the middle class from an income tax hike, extends vital unemployment insurance for Americans looking for a job, and lays the groundwork for future progress on more economic growth and deficit reduction.

I believe such a proposal could pass both houses with bipartisan majorities – as long as these leaders allow it to come to a vote.

***

The Republican-controlled House has taken a step in the right direction. The House has already passed bills to protect all Americans from burdensome tax increases. In addition, they’ve passed legislation to replace damaging across-the-board spending cuts with responsible targeted ones, and to bring our nation’s record debt under control. But instead of working across the aisle and considering the House-passed plan to protect taxpayers, Senate Democrats have spent months drawing partisan lines in the sand.

The President’s proposal to raise taxes on the top 2 percent of Americans won’t even pay one-third of the annual interest that’s now owed on this massive $16 trillion debt. In fact, the President’s tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. Americans deserve to know: What does the President propose we do for the other 357 days of the year?


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I summon Scrumpy.

SparkPlug on December 29, 2012 at 8:33 PM

It doesn’t matter, let’s default, the moochers starve, and the productive restore order and society.

It is long past time for a purge.

tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 8:35 PM

In fact, the President’s tax hike would only fund the government for eight days. Americans deserve to know: What does the President propose we do for the other 357 days of the year?

Surfing in Hawaii? Flights there are free, aren’t they?

Gingotts on December 29, 2012 at 8:37 PM

Shallow graves for the lot of them.

lostmotherland

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I like blame.

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

/

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Is it terrible that I don’t even care anymore. So sick of that POS in the White House. I hate that he has any control over my life.

4 more years of him makes me want to throw up.

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Let’s blame the Whigs.

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

The big-ticket item hanging over the Reid-McConnell talks will be the income level at which taxes can rise. Boehner failed to win sufficient GOP support for a plan to increase taxes for income over $1 million, and Obama has previously upped his offer from $250,000 to $400,000. McConnell and Reid are also trying to agree on the level to set taxes on estates that are transferred after the death of an owner

…JugEars is getting better at math?…hia MILLIONAIRES now make $400,000…and “estates” are government property?

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Spread the pain equally for all to enjoy.

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I feel so sorry for all of those Obama voters whose taxes are going to take a major “hike”.

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

his

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 8:42 PM

I feel so sorry for all of those Obama voters whose taxes are going to take a major “hike”.

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I feel sorry for all of us who warned people it was coming and are going to pay the price for the moochers.

I am NOT in a good mood tonight :(

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Is it terrible that I don’t even care anymore. So sick of that POS in the White House. I hate that he has any control over my life.

4 more years of him makes me want to throw up.

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

.
As long as you don’t do it in the White House, he can live with it.

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Elections have consequences, dudes: you vote for more expensive government, you gotta pay for it.

Do not make a cliff deal, Repubs, people (even in Manhattan) are starting to get the message. Avik Roy was right, and letting the tax rates go up will teach everyone what the cost of voting Democrat actually is.

Let it burn.

MTF on December 29, 2012 at 8:45 PM

her

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM

The last-minute tax and spending deal being discussed in the Senate would do little to reduce the deficit, and could actually expand it, leaving difficult choices about Medicare, Social Security, and the country’s borrowing limit until next year…

kick
the
can
down
the
road
for
another
four
years!

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Wait until 2014. Things will get really interesting then. Especially when this becomes a nation of people who work 29.5 hours per week. But we get free health care! That will work wonders for the economy.

Philly on December 29, 2012 at 8:47 PM

“It’s that much higher?” asked IT worker Vikas Kataria, 34, who discovered that his combined household income of about $250,000 per year will cost him nearly $10,000 more in taxes.

“I thought it was a couple thousand — but that’s a lot,” said Kataria, who works at Merrill Lynch in Manhattan and is married to a systems analyst for a brokerage firm. “That’s huge!”…

Considering that Asians voted by over 70% for Obama, Vikas, is more likely an Obama voter.

Which in case, suck it you ignorant POS.

sentinelrules on December 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

“Guys, I can hear you over here”…

d1carter on December 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Let it, well…..you know.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 8:49 PM

I feel sorry for all of us who warned people it was coming and are going to pay the price for the moochers.

I am NOT in a good mood tonight :(

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

…don’t feel bad!….I’m MENOPAUSING!

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

The last-minute tax and spending deal being discussed in the Senate would do little to reduce the deficit, and could actually expand it

Noooooooo … You’re kidding, right?

/Status quo — some decades in a row: that’s surely the last thing that we’d expect!

ShainS on December 29, 2012 at 8:50 PM

0′s debt he created isn’t even covered or paid down in his budget. You leftist deserve to suffer for this. You have fluffed him. Debt on future generations is your reward.

Go find a ditch to die in.
lostmotherland on December 21, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Exactly.

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:51 PM

I feel so sorry for all of those Obama voters whose taxes are going to take a major “hike”.

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 8:41 PM

tee hee

Electrongod on December 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Folks freak at size of tax hikes if fiscal cliff isn’t averted in the coming days

May it consume you and everyone and everything you care about.

tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Let it, well…..you know.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Evening KCB! Saw your Bishop last night. ; )

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 8:52 PM

no God……….no common sense.

Progressivism in a nutshell.

PappyD61 on December 29, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Considering that Asians voted by over 70% for Obama, Vikas, is more likely an Obama voter.

Which in case, suck it you ignorant POS.

sentinelrules on December 29, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Vikas Kataria, 34,

…his name doesn’t sound like… Vortune Kookie!

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 8:54 PM

I feel sorry for all of us who warned people it was coming and are going to pay the price for the moochers.

I am NOT in a good mood tonight :(

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

.
TAKE COVER ! ! !

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM

this just in: Obama voters don’t know diddly about squat

Slade73 on December 29, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Hi B! Good to see you. My Bishop was nice, but I conjure Jackie up out of thin air. It was my highlight.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Conjured.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 8:58 PM

this just in: Obama voters don’t know diddly about squat

Slade73 on December 29, 2012 at 8:57 PM

.
Moron news at 11:00 . . . . . . . . . .

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 8:59 PM

TAKE COVER ! ! !

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 8:56 PM

At least I warned ya all :)

I just need something positive to look forward to. I’m so tired of moochers and lazy people.

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 9:00 PM

obamas puss again? time for a macallan single malt.

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Hi B! Good to see you. My Bishop was nice, but I conjure Jackie up out of thin air. It was my highlight.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 8:57 PM

…I almost spit my beer on the screen when that happened last night!

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Surprised me too.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I am NOT in a good mood tonight :(

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Gopherguy hardest hit.

CurtZHP on December 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

i really never see young people angry about what obama and boehner are doing to the country.

just us old folk.

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

You haven’t met my kids.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

You haven’t met my kids.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I have a few nephews under 16 yo that know 100x more than the rank and file democrat voter.

tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 9:07 PM

The anger from youth will manifest down the road a bit. Soon as they realize what has been done to them. If not, then they are deserving of it, and have no right to anger.

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Allow me to repost what I had posted on the pay-raise thread.

A timely description of the fall of the Roman Empire found in Stephen Greenblatt’s The Swerve:

A clearheaded, thoughtful, and unusually impartial historian, Ammianus seems to have sensed the impending end. His description of a world exhausted by crushing taxes, the financial ruin of large segments of the population, and the dangerous decline in the army’s morale vividly conjured up the conditions that made it possible, some twenty years after his death, for the Goths to sack Rome.

Sound familiar? And just who is orchestrating America’s fall?

onlineanalyst on December 29, 2012 at 9:11 PM

It’s amazing, reading the NY post article, to read how these Obama voters are crying over the loss of their Bush tax cuts.

Of course, if you told them the tax cuts were due to Bush, they would shriek, deny it and then slash their wrists.

sentinelrules on December 29, 2012 at 9:12 PM

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:06 PM

never had kids. but your suggestion about the woodford reserve, has more than made up for it:)

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Everyone says elections have consequences, but until we get off the credit card the fiscal consequences are non existent. Time to dive.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:12 PM

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Outstanding! I’m glad you approve.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM

this just in: Obama voters don’t know diddly about squat

Slade73 on December 29, 2012 at 8:57 PM

But…but…they said they were the smartest people in the room.

Huh.

Solaratov on December 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Longhorns! Let’s go!

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Will low info types even notice?

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 9:18 PM

i really never see young people angry about what obama and boehner are doing to the country.

just us old folk.

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM

It warms my heart to know that they seem to be perfectly happy to pay much higher taxes so that I can retire in comfort. /sarc

When they realize they could have bought their own birth control for $4.00 a month without putting the government in complete control of their lives, imagine how stupid they will feel.

Night Owl on December 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM

“It’s that much higher?” asked IT worker Vikas Kataria, 34, who discovered that his combined household income of about $250,000 per year will cost him nearly $10,000 more in taxes.

Pssst. Vikas, you’re supposed to educate yourself BEFORE the election (dim bulb).

DaveDief on December 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Will low info types even notice?

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 9:18 PM

All welfare, food stamps and free cell phone minutes should ge cut in half if we go over the cliff.

VegasRick on December 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM

VegasRick on December 29, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Worth the jump right there! *clink!*

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 9:22 PM

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:12 PM

matter of fact i’ll take a tasty sip in your honor sir.

oops i think i’ve unintentionally gone back to my days riding a low rider and listening to malo’s suavecito https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwmtbLJdKvI

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Worth the jump right there! *clink!*

Bmore on December 29, 2012 at 9:22 PM

Yep.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:23 PM

low info voters = low take home voters..

Bring it.

Electrongod on December 29, 2012 at 9:24 PM

America is no longer operating under the rule of law.

A little-noticed brief filed last Thursday by House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Ranking Member Elijah Cummings and fellow Democrats John Conyers, Jr., Henry A. Waxman, Edolphus Towns and Louise M. Slaughter, asks the United States District Court for the District of Columbia to dismiss without prejudice the civil complaint by the Oversight Committee against Eric Holder following the Attorney General being found in contempt of Congress for refusing to produce subpoenaed documents related to the Fast and Furious gunwalking investigation.

From KD at M-T

tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM

am i the only one on this thread who is suppose to be doing work right now. the thought of obamas greasy hand in my pocket is like a ton of salt peter.

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

i have a hard time believing that there won’t be some kind of agreement to kick the can down the road. That is the one thing the Government seems to excel at accomplishing.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

i know i have to work. but my fingers won’t move.

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Sparky, where’s Scrumpy?

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Is it terrible that I don’t even care anymore. So sick of that POS in the White House. I hate that he has any control over my life.

4 more years of him makes me want to throw up.

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

While in general I agree with this, we need to go over the cliff and come back with a Stonewall Jackson on the debt limit. “Shut down the Feds”….Hell, yes! Force them to live on $3 TRILLION a year and stop all the stuff we hate funding.

To hell with D.C. – let them eat ($3T worth of) Cake!

So the GSA has a little company party like we do…bring a dish, etc.

L.I.B. and do NOT increase the limit. “Shut It Down!” should be the new “Let It Burn!”.

Who is John Galt on December 29, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Don’t mean to delve into ageism but we need younger more energetic people delivering our message. Roy Blunt said what needs to be said but far too often these messages by the older generation come off as after school, reading rainbow specials. I’d like to see Rubio or Rand Paul or someone like them do these from now on.

jawkneemusic on December 29, 2012 at 9:33 PM

Tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM

We haven’t been acting under the rule of law since 2008. Well, Chicago Law, but that’s not what the Founders had in mind. Obama is what the Founders had in mind when they wrote our beloved Constitution.

Sadly, I believe the Constitution is R.I.P., caused by Freedom Of The Obama Press.

Who is John Galt on December 29, 2012 at 9:37 PM

gophergirl on December 29, 2012 at 8:40 PM

i agree one trillion percent with you. its the control that makes me sick. he’s narrowing our choices, therefore taking away whats special about being an American citizen.

you are not alone in your misery. i find myself withdrawing from any news outlets. the news will always be bad, and there’s nothing i can do, nor the representatives i have helped to elect.

renalin on December 29, 2012 at 9:39 PM

“It’s a shit show,” one prominent Republican told BuzzFeed of the GOP’s messaging position. “Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”

Sun Tzu said something about leaving your enemy a way out, never forcing them to fight to the death. Democrats will blame Republicans either way. We’ve been left no way out. LIB!

txhsmom on December 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Not only will the grand-bargain discussions need to await an eventual resolution of the fiscal cliff, but other items on Obama’s second-term agenda risk getting pushed to the back burner, too, including gun control and immigration.

Repeat after me: “The cliff is your friend, the cliff is your friend…”

Bruno Strozek on December 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM

tom daschle concerned on December 29, 2012 at 9:27 PM

How did they do this? Did they file it as a “friend of the court”, or what?
Since cummings is not the committee chairman, he can’t file that motion in the name of the committee.
It would seem that they’d have to file as private citizens.

And, what is Issa going to do about it?

Solaratov on December 29, 2012 at 9:42 PM

LIB!

txhsmom on December 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Shut It Down! SID ain’t a good acronym, I wish I could come up with one that read S.H.I.T or S.I.T. ;) One of our HA aces will…I hope.

But LIB and then SID!

Who is John Galt on December 29, 2012 at 9:43 PM

So, when do the repubs cave? Agree to some nonsense on taxes and NOTHING on spending. Don’t believe me? Just watch and see what happens.

And as someone said upthread, I’m tired of this crap, too.

Mirimichi on December 29, 2012 at 9:45 PM

I’m moving to Concho AZ, to pooch elk. Wanna go GG?

Need a Ruger #1 in .300 win mag, or .458 lott.

Anyone have one for sale?

wolly4321 on December 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Repeat after me: “The cliff is your friend, the cliff is your friend…”
Bruno Strozek on December 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM

I don’t know if I’m truly ready to feel the pain, but I’ll be better off than some. It’s time America realized that voting for what feels good hurts.

txhsmom on December 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Mirimichi on December 29, 2012 at 9:45 PM

As much as I hate it, looks that way.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:47 PM

LIB, SID and burn, baby, burn.

Philly on December 29, 2012 at 9:51 PM

…Texas has time!

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 9:52 PM

Longhorns! Let’s go!

KCB
on December 29, 2012 at 9:15 PM

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One of the more bizarre “broken-play TDs” I’ve ever seen !

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Anybody really think the GOP would really betray us?///

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Nice toss rolling to the left though!

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

I’m leaving town. now.

wolly4321 on December 29, 2012 at 9:55 PM

The Republicans are going to betray you…every time.

Panther on December 29, 2012 at 9:59 PM

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 9:53 PM

.
Nice toss rolling to the left though!

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 9:54 PM

.
Totally !

I doubt it was planned that way . . . . .

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Oh no.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM

DON’T . . . . . throw an interception now.

Ok, ‘horns ?

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM

What are you doing!!

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM

Tennessee Sens. Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander pitched a plan on Friday to cut federal spending by $1 trillion — much of it from Medicare — in exchange for increasing the nation’s borrowing limit by that amount.

i don’t think we can underestimate the power of the knee jerk leftist intuition of the press as one of the great institutional failures of this country. the language that they use is leftist tinged from start to finish…

So Corker and Alexander are proposing to Reform medicare to the tune of 1T over 10 years (i’m not provided with any relevant baseline, however being smarter than a politico leftist, i googled it…about 520B in 2011…so a 10 year projection would probably be a big number say 7T…so the reform would be 15 percent or so)

i know that leftists don’t see that as their job…that requires Math…not their job

r keller on December 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM

btw, i’m totally for the Bush Tax Cuts (Evil) totally expiring. The reaction of the NY lefties getting a body blow from the expiration of the smirking chimps tax cuts would be worth twice the price of admission

please, barry…hold tight…go back to the Clinton taxes..please, i beseech you

(And the market would go UP…because a downgrade would be avoided…please barry)

r keller on December 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM

TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM

…Texas!

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 10:08 PM

Shut It Down! SID ain’t a good acronym, I wish I could come up with one that read S.H.I.T or S.I.T. ;) One of our HA aces will…I hope.
But LIB and then SID!
Who is John Galt on December 29, 2012 at 9:43 PM

Sounds good to me!

txhsmom on December 29, 2012 at 10:09 PM

It’s a shit show,” says one.

From all sides…

Seven Percent Solution on December 29, 2012 at 10:12 PM

…I ALWAYS want teams from red states to beat teams from blue states!………..But I have two kids that have MSU roots…one still there…so, sorry TCU!

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 10:14 PM

SACK!!! YES!!!

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

T E X A S !

KOOLAID2 on December 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

fourth down sack!! That should do it.

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 10:16 PM

I don’t know if I’m truly ready to feel the pain, but I’ll be better off than some. It’s time America realized that voting for what feels good hurts.

txhsmom on December 29, 2012 at 9:46 PM

I certainly don’t relish the thought of the cliff either, and lots of decent folks are going to be hurt, but responsible people who enable irresponsible people and not helping anyone, anyhow.

Shared consequences only work when they are actually shared, and if I’m gonna feel pain then those that chose this path to begin with need to feel it too…

Bruno Strozek on December 29, 2012 at 10:20 PM

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM

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What are you doing!!

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 10:03 PM

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Sorry, I just came back in from the woodstove (again).

I was trying talk them out of throwing another interception.

Maybe it worked. Most likely it was irrelevant.

‘horns WIN !

listens2glenn on December 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM

God Bless

KCB on December 29, 2012 at 10:21 PM

“It’s a shit show,” one prominent Republican told BuzzFeed of the GOP’s messaging position. “Tax rates are going to go up on everyone, and we’re going to get the blame.”

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It is a show you ALL had a hand in creating, you fecking GOPe.

It is the can YOU helped kick down the road.

It is the lie YOU sat back and ignored while it was told to the public.

The figurative fire is coming and it is going to burn your GOPe house down to the ground …

… and it is long overdue.

Let.It.Burn!

PolAgnostic on December 29, 2012 at 10:22 PM

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