Quotes of the day
posted at 9:01 pm on December 28, 2012 by Allahpundit
Hobby Lobby and religious book-seller Mardel Inc., which are owned by the same conservative Christian family, are suing to block part of the federal health care law that requires employee health-care plans to provide insurance coverage for the morning-after pill and similar emergency contraception pills…
Kyle Duncan, who is representing Hobby Lobby on behalf of the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, said in a statement posted on the group’s website Thursday that Hobby Lobby doesn’t intend to offer its employees insurance that would cover the drug while its lawsuit is pending.
“The company will continue to provide health insurance to all qualified employees,” Duncan said. “To remain true to their faith, it is not their intention, as a company, to pay for abortion-inducing drugs.”
The Internal Revenue Service regulations now say that a group health care plan that “fails to comply” with the Affordable Care Act is subject to an “excise tax” of “$100 per day per individual for each day the plan does not comply with the requirement.” It remains unclear how the IRS would implement and collect the excise tax.
The Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, based Hobby Lobby chain has more than 500 stores that employ 13,000 employees across 42 states, and takes in $2.6 billion in sales. The company’s attorneys say January begins a new health care plan year for Hobby Lobby and that excise tax from the IRS would amount to $1.3 million a day…
After this piece of the law went into effect in August, religious nonprofits were given “safe harbor” of one year from implementing the law. “In effect, the president is saying we have a year to figure out how to violate our consciences,” Cardinal Timothy Dolan, the Archbishop of New York, said in January when the administration announced the move.
Today Hobby Lobby announced that they will not comply with this mandate to become complicit in abortion, which the Greens believe ends an innocent human life. Given Hobby Lobby’s size (it has 572 stores employing more than 13,000 people), by violating the HHS Mandate, it will be subject to over $1.3 million in fines per day. That means over $40 million in fines in January alone. If their case takes another ten months to get before the Supreme Court—which would be the earliest it could get there under the normal order of business—the company would incur almost a half-billion dollars in fines. And then of course the Supreme Court would have to write an opinion in what would likely be a split decision with dissenters, which could easily take four or six months and include hundreds of millions of dollars in additional penalties.
This is civil disobedience, consistent with America’s highest traditions when moral issues are at stake…
The issue before the courts here is whether the Greens religious-liberty rights include running their secular, for-profit business consistent with their religious beliefs. In other words, is religious liberty just what you do in church on a Sunday morning, or does it include what you do during the week at your job?
Recently, Belmont Abbey College and Wheaton College (which are Catholic and Christian respectively), fought for a similar exemption on religious grounds as did The Archdiocese of New York. In these cases, it was ruled that they should not be forced to provide coverage which violated their religious beliefs. The difference between these cases and Hobby Lobby is that the latter is not a religious institution, and the others are. However, the rights of the individual are a cornerstone of America’s foundation. There is no compelling reason for that freedom to be limited in this case, and must fiercely be protected…
The biggest questions may be with regards to what happens next. Will these battles cause a delay in implementation? With Constitutional protection for religious beliefs being thrown out the window, what will the next casualty be?
Believing their employees should have the opportunity to spend Sundays with their families, the company is closed on Sundays and only operates 66 hours per week. Indeed, the Greens strive to apply the Christian teachings on respect and fairness to their employees, increasing the pay of Hobby Lobby’s full- and part-time hourly workers for four years in a row. Full-time hourly workers now start at 80 percent above the federal minimum wage…
The Green family has no moral objection to the use of preventive contraceptives and will continue its longstanding practice of covering these preventive contraceptives for its employees. However, the Green family cannot provide or pay for two specific abortion-inducing drugs. These drugs are Plan B and Ella, the so-called morning-after pill and the week-after pill. Covering these drugs, as the government is forcing them to do under the threat of $1.3 million penalty per day, would violate their most deeply held religious belief that life begins at conception, when an egg is fertilized. The FDA-approved government birth control guide clearly states that these two drugs, the morning-after pill and the week-after pill, may prevent fertilized eggs from implanting in the womb, thus aborting the fertilized egg.
The Green family respects the religious convictions of all Americans, including those who do not agree with them. All they are asking is for the government to give them the same respect by not forcing them to violate their religious beliefs.
As a conservative, regardless of how I feel about Obamacare, I believe the law is the law until it is repealed. Therefore, Hobby Lobby should be fined until they get a temporary injunction while the case works its way to the Supreme Court. (Justice Sotomayor denied an emergency injunction, by the way. How nice.) That’s the law. Liberals undoubtedly agree with me regarding Hobby Lobby, but they don’t when it comes to David Gregory. Of course, anyone else who breaks DC gun laws should be prosecuted, if you ask those same liberals. Just not David Gregory because he was making a point. Like Hobby Lobby. But that’s different, they’ll say.
How? How is it different? Both are cases where the law is being broken. I thought liberals were all about “fairness.” Where’s the fairness when Hobby Lobby has to pay 1.3 million dollars PER DAY to prove a point and David Gregory doesn’t even have a charge pending against him? And no, the ATF isn’t allowed to waive DC gun laws…
[B]y arguing that Gregory shouldn’t even be investigated, let alone prosecuted, liberals are saying that they get to decide which laws should be enforced. They are basically saying that the law is only relevant when they say it is. If that’s the case, the law has no meaning. And yet they’ll be the first to propose new laws that must be followed for the greater good, until they decide it can be broken to make a point.
You see where this leads?
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The Apostle Paul is starting to look more and more freaky-deaky!
SouthernGent on May 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM
But of course they would never be partisan about who gets healthcare — just because it is that way in every other country that has socialized medicine, that doesn’t mean it would happen here.
/sarc off
Axion on May 16, 2013 at 10:14 PM
Thank you.
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM
She cannot remain in her position.
BuckeyeSam on May 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM
“We see you bought a gun last year, Citizen, and we now wish to inform you that you are no longer eligible for medical care.”
Bishop on May 16, 2013 at 10:20 PM
50 + K a year in bonuses over two years.
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Conservative,, the new 1930′s jew.
This is bullshit.
wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:21 PM
Could be.. but I think he vastly over estimates his chances.. he is no Lincoln, who has righteousness on his side.. Lincoln wasn’t working to put chains ON people, Obama is..
I firmly believe the rank and file dems, regular moderates, their remaining conservatives.. will walk before signing on… plus the passion gap is huge,.. Our bloodiest was was fought with rifled muskets,.. another..
the carnage is unthinkable.. maybe they’ll shrink from it… we won’t be sent to gulags, and his passion to use federal agencies to punish normal Americans has GOT to wake most people up.. He may want an excuse to get a war with red State America..
but we won’t give him the excuse by starting it..
he’ll have to do that on his own.
I’ve never imagined before.. the blues are so hateful, so drunk on power.. they would think making being on the right a crime is something they would ever be allowed to get away with. The left has always been little Eichmann’s.. but never so openly.. or to actually use government as a weapon.
but as you suggest.. the stunning revelations make you wonder..
does he want a civil war?
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:25 PM
exactly. Message sent…and now received. I had seen the several tweets wrt obamacare…and clearly, now we see.
Obama is pretty sure he’ll be getting away with this. Basically a twofer…now that he’s re-elected. One…surprise…we got you good you tea partiers…and you anti-abortion people…Two..and oh, btw, you guys that work for my government? Well, no snitching to the AP, or anyone else
obama has always told us that if the congress didn’t do x he would implement things unilaterally. They didn’t ‘fix’ Citizens United…so he’ll fix them good
r keller on May 16, 2013 at 10:26 PM
I will try to make sense and make it short.
Others I’m sure heard the Dr. from Houston when he called Mark Levins show tonight.
This a short version of what he said:
A guy who used to use this Dr. had gone to an new Dr. re: PSA test on possible problem with prostrate ,,cancer,, this Dr. told him that he had new information from the GOVERMENT, that PSA test were not a good thing and that he would not do the test.
So this guy said , I’ll go ask my former Dr. what he thinks.
Gets to his former Dr. and (the guy who called Mark’s show) and this Dr. said hell ya you should take the PSA test it saves lives and is not a hazard at all.
Seems the Obama Care “experts” math people, accouants ect, “death pannels” made this choice as the radation, Cemo, hospital care ect. to treat a prostrate cancer very costly, but just saying no and let the person just get cancer, give the person morphine, and bury the person is much cheaper.
Some one get the audio and post it some where here or Ms Ham or your helpers do this.
Seems very important this kind of knowing.
awk
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Insane.. but that’s the message he sent..
At least we aren’t alone, we still have conservative Jews with us, libertarians, Mormons, Catholics..
Herr Obama has cast a wide net.
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM
slick, I was already fired up and now you made me go and get another drink.
He–Chicago jeezus, would suck his own crank if he could. Course, he doesn’t need to anymore since there seems to be a plethora of clean up crews out there to take care of any business he desires.
arnold ziffel on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Set up the power structure, then cause one of these…
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht.
Then take the guns.
I don’t know in what order but we are being set up.
wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:29 PM
Well, he and Big Sis have been buying up all the bullets, right?
A gun without bullets is probably about as lethal as a baseball bat.
marybel on May 16, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Strong Men Tend To Be Conservative
Now, you know why HAL is a liberal…
Resist We Much on May 16, 2013 at 10:32 PM
Getting pretty tired of people who should already know better (and act accordingly) suddenly discovering that every public employee union member in this country almost without exception is a left-wing nutter who dutifully hates on whomever and whatever their union and/or Demo sugar daddies tell them to hate on.
Sacramento on May 16, 2013 at 10:33 PM
I’ve been looking for a photo of this woman, Drudge found it. Who’s going to jail? asks Boehner, I’d say this chick.
Marcus on May 16, 2013 at 10:34 PM
Don’t ever say ….
HE WOULDN’T DARE
Lucano on May 16, 2013 at 10:35 PM
BuckeyeSam- Holder still has a job. Right?
Who’s gonna fire her? Barky will sing praise.
The left loves them. Holder, ried, pelosi, schumer, durbin,nappyhoe, clinton, sebillious, ,,,,
It’s a long list. With the msm, they’re bulletproof.
wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Marcus- she won’t go to jail. She’ll get a bonus. And extra-Constitutional powers.
wolly4321 on May 16, 2013 at 10:40 PM
Perfect sense.. as it stands..
The workers comp burea controls my medical care.. even though a new MRI reveals a signifigant worsening on the 4th of my herniated disacs, and is smashing hard into a primary nerve root.. the first doctor said no to the surgery, and refused a second opinion, apppeal was rejected..
my Doc after running his hands through his hair in frustration, said.. you may have to go outside the system, see if medicare will cover it. Over the last few weeks, the pain has worsened a lot.. I’m now.. for the first time since the bones were crushed, and having truoble walking, my legs are unstable.. and cut out without warning for several seconds..
and now..
How can I know that my medicare case isn’t filed under a bright red C?.. or the workers comp claim file?
how will we know if we aren’t being fast tracked for the “Ignore.. F**k em” file?
Obama put in our minds the very very frightening notion, you are being punished for a thought crime. All by using the IRS and EPA plus others as weaponized versions of the liberal agenda..
How can I know my care is based on medical decisions and not political ones?
how can any of us now?
That bas@rd has much to answer for.
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:40 PM
but that is his goal isn’t it?
censor yourself into silence.. be a Good German.. or pay..
the only American answer.. is a hearty GFY and going after him even harder.
mark81150 on May 16, 2013 at 10:44 PM
The evil choice these two bit commie thug democrats and msm have made is that the commie democrats will spend the tax money to buy votes from the people in the unions, the ones on the dole and they will not spend the tax money on people they think will not vote for them. They have over taxed, over spent and they have run up the debt so high the world soon will not loan them any more cash flow , so the choice they have taken is to kill U.S. who do not vote for them off.
It is a great and growing evil.
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:50 PM
He put a quarter slot in the little door in front of his desk. Pelosi spent all day running up and down Pennsylvania Ave breaking dollar bills. Can you imagine that shiny old taught face looking up from your crotch.?
BacaDog on May 16, 2013 at 10:51 PM
It won’t be a blue dress that gets him. It will be Nancy’s chinhairs.
BacaDog on May 16, 2013 at 10:54 PM
gee wizz
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Best medical advise my Dr. has given me of late.
“Buy more ammo , be on guard…”
APACHEWHOKNOWS on May 16, 2013 at 11:00 PM
There is no way for them to “get the guns”.
There are at least 50,000,000 unregistered guns in the US.
Their first shots begin the carnage.
Look up “Bill Clinton’s Rules of Engagement” for Bosnia.
25 Million Dead
Good luck with that idea.
The 500 meter solution
III/0317
dirtengineer on May 16, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Its.The.Law.
But it will never be fully implemented because it doesn’t work.I love watching libs demonstrate their lack of intelligence. They are broke and stupid.
I can’t wait to watch all the mind numbed robots the prez’s GOTV brought in when their checks quit coming.
Remember – libs, progs, fascists – believe in nothing but power. If you think they care about you, ask them why under their reign the only group doing well is the wealthy.
Zomcon JEM on May 16, 2013 at 11:07 PM
It’s the law?
So is DOMA.
HopeHeFails on May 16, 2013 at 11:33 PM
Touche’
workingclass artist on May 16, 2013 at 11:40 PM
Hang in there. And, switch your party affiliation to a “D” just in case.
txhsmom on May 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Crossed the Rubicon.
oryguncon on May 16, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Analogy just hit me:
That worked out well…
de rigueur on May 16, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Yes.
And he probably thinks he can win such a civil war because, to him, he holds all the cards and positions of power. To him, he controls the media, he controls the under-30 crowd, he controls the opposition, he controls all minorities, he controls our health care and our money, and he wants to confiscate our guns and destroy our way of life.
But what we are seeing is a man so devoted to power and control, that he is starting to implode upon himself as this drumbeat of revelations goes on… and on… and on. He wants a civil war, but his administration is coming apart at the seams in shocking fashion.
History has proven, over and over, that such control freaks with the mentality Obama possesses never have a happy ending.
Never underestimate the firm power of karma.
Myron Falwell on May 17, 2013 at 12:37 AM
Yes I think he does.
Axion on May 17, 2013 at 12:42 AM
Thanks John Roberts…
PatriotRider on May 17, 2013 at 12:45 AM
-Il Douche has all the right character traits for a dictator: narcissist;bigot;amoral;anti-American;ultra-leftist;petty;vindictive;huge chip on his shoulder. These traits have been bred into him and re-enforced throughout his lifetime.
-A fascist state and tyranny of the left is clearly his goal. There is nothing that he will not do to establish this. So far, he has been able to achieve his goals peacefully, albeit deceptively, unfairly, probably unconstitutionally and likely illegally in many cases. His ability to achieve his goals thus far has been largely thanks to a generally ignorant and apathetic voting public, a very supportive and corrupt media, and a spineless and confused opposition.
-He is very likely frustrated by having any constraints at all. I have no doubt that he would like nothing more than to unburden himself of any and all constraints by whatever means necessary. If and when he reaches a road block (real or imagined), he will let loose. And this will be when he resorts to the use of violence.
-It’s all laid out for us in the history of dictatorships. And displayed in the history and observable character of Obama himself (what little history of him that there actually is, incredibly enough).
-I see a bad moon arising.
justltl on May 17, 2013 at 12:46 AM
No.
NO.
This cannot stand.
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 12:57 AM
They’ve already been doing that; starting to walk back the advantages of preventative care like mammograms, saying it’s too costly for all these women to have all these early screenings – it’s not ‘necessary’, you see – so we can do with having fewer of them, you see – and if some more women get breast cancer and die, it’s still cheaper than paying for all these mammograms, you see…
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 1:04 AM
I suspect that somewhere in the White House, hidden from view, Il Douche has a large whiteboard hanging with these names written on it: Fox News; Talk Radio; Rush Limbaugh; the Internet.
justltl on May 17, 2013 at 1:08 AM
Big Mooch likely has a smaller one hanging with names like: Lobster;Cheeseburger;French Fries;Vacations;Louis Vuitton; Omar the Tentmaker, etc.
justltl on May 17, 2013 at 1:14 AM
So she’s the one who’s going to make it hard for me to get medical treatment because I’m in the Tea Party. It’s interesting to be able to put a face to it.
Alana on May 17, 2013 at 2:28 AM
Konservativen nicht erlaubt!
HICON on May 17, 2013 at 3:25 AM
And the libs see it falling apart too. They become more shrill and desperate each day.
dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 5:50 AM
So… when is Sarah Hall Ingram going to prison?
locomotivebreath1901 on May 17, 2013 at 6:13 AM
My take.
kingsjester on May 17, 2013 at 6:44 AM
“It’s the law” = Excuse for most tyrants.
fatlibertarianinokc on May 17, 2013 at 6:49 AM
Like the immigration laws that are so faithfully enforced?
MPan on May 17, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Does it really matter which maggot is/was where in this garbage can? Move one and another gazillion maggots are ready to take it’s place.
the cure: in order.
1. Dump the IRS from Obamacare (don’t fund them)
2. Dump Obamacare (the masses will help)
3. Dump the maggots in 2014 (see above)
4. 2016 Fumigate the barrel that the new maggots don’t enter. (that means keep the RINOs far away from feeding on our carcasses)
Don L on May 17, 2013 at 7:44 AM
I have just three words for Ms. Sarah Hall Ingram, who used her position as a faceless bureaucrat to torment tea party groups, but who is no longer anonymous – “Payback’s a bitch!”
chazmaz on May 17, 2013 at 7:48 AM
Harvard, Georgetown; it’s amazing how these once solid religious institutions have became the breeding grounds for stocking society with immoral unprincipled puppets.
Don L on May 17, 2013 at 7:50 AM
I pray they all go to prison very soon.
dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 7:59 AM
It’s just a coincidence….
Just because the Obama administration used ‘leaked’ personal tax info to attack the Koch brothers in 2010 doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….
Just because Obama’s 2012 Presidential campaign co-chair used Romney’s personal tax info to publicly attack Romney doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….
Just because during the 2012 campaign Harry Reid in a press conference used Romney tax data to declare Romney had not paid taxes in years then challenged him to release those documents so everyone could see doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….
Just because Obama’s criminal tax-data stealing, Conservative/TEA Party/Jewish-targeting should-be-in-jail IRS mobster has now been hand-picked & placed in charge of Obamacare’s Tax enforcement doesn’t mean Obama knew about the on-going scandal or that the information was used for political reasons….or that this new position will be further used to intimidate & punish those same groups!
easyt65 on May 17, 2013 at 8:30 AM
they won’t need gulags… they have our families’ health care in their grip…
only if the media covers the story going forward… they’re the ones who enabled this mess to begin with…
shinty on May 17, 2013 at 9:21 AM
ot only is the IRS not an “independent” agency, but it appears
that the substantial bonuses received by the head of the IRS tax-exempt division when the targeting of conservative groups occurred would have been approved by the White House because they exceeded $25,000.
J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 9:30 AM
Asking for internal controls is not a radical idea. It happens everywhere, in every kind of organization. External auditors look for internal controls in audits of financial statements of all kinds of businesses, and write it up when they are lacking. The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration looks for them when it reviews TE/GE’s programs. It is a familiar concept.
What all this spells out to me is that instead of incremental destruction of the country that the forces of the left have practiced historically lets bullet train everything. Hillary looks like a better than 50% bet to win in 2016 so why slow track socialism.
Let it all out and rapid fire everything they can get through. Obamacare and other commie/socialistc bills on the way and already in due to EO’s now become perfect vehicles for promoting socialism.
ITs the middle nearing the end of our way oflife.Its socialism warping into communism and the destructionof capitalism and our Republic.
rodguy911 on May 17, 2013 at 9:39 AM
That’s a woman? She really does look like Terry Jones in drag. Where does Obama find them?
totherightofthem on May 17, 2013 at 9:51 AM
LIBERAL women; I’ve got nothing against conservative women. :)
Midas on May 17, 2013 at 10:02 AM
BOOM So now he’s been audited AND he’s gonna lose his job.
dogsoldier on May 17, 2013 at 10:17 AM
Ads up in lesbian bars all over DC.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Time to make yellow ‘Don’t tread on me’ armbands compulsory for conservatives, so medical care can be denied before they get inot the ER.
txdoc on May 17, 2013 at 10:29 AM
BOHICA
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 10:38 AM
#FireSarahHallIngram
ITguy on May 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM
#ImprisonSarahHallIngram
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Thanks for speaking up. Now when Republicans get back in power, we know who to deny life-saving care to “for cost reasons”.
Saltyron on May 17, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Face it, when Obama says he knew nothing of the malfeasance of underlings that benefited him, and then does not really punish the underlings when caught, this means that he personally instructed them to do what they did (no paper trail, of course) and naturally does not want to punish them. IMO this is the default assumption that should be made.
Chessplayer on May 17, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Sarah Hall Ingram was paid a bonus mentioned here on HotAir but hasn’t been mentioned is that the bonus amount she received had to be approved by POTUS Barack Hussein Obama. If someone knows more please let me know.
If this is true Obama is full of sh!t up to his eyeballs.
hamradio on May 17, 2013 at 9:16 PM
And the dynomite goes boom.
My God, how did this little man/child get elected 2X?
mmcnamer1 on May 18, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Don’t worry, Obama will get to the bottom of all this.
Being a POS it should be very simple for him.
profitsbeard on May 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM
I just finished a very long post on the speech given by Sarah Hall Ingram in 2009. Everybody is looking for the architect. And she is right there. The speech came off the IRS website. It outlines everything!
Here is the link to the post. Read the speech (its linked) and tell me I’m wrong.
http://truthandcommonsense.com/2013/05/19/wh-says-the-woman-in-charge-of-the-irs-during-the-scandal-is-innocent-no-proof-she-did-anything-wrong-oh-man-let-me-try/
…But how was Ingram going to get from “A” (the concept) to “Z” the execution? She is kind enough to lay it out for us. She even titled it.
IRS Promotion of Good Governance
Somewhat controversially – at least to some – we have advanced the notion that there is a link between good governance and tax compliance. This concept seems intuitively true to many people. I certainly believe it; it does not seem like a controversial statement to me. But some have challenged this association of good governance and good compliance – not by pointing out cases in which well governed organizations nonetheless seriously violated the Code and put their tax-exempt status at risk – but simply by saying the point has not been proved.
These critics often note that effective governance arises from intangibles – the dedication and diligence of responsible officers and board members – rather than from the adoption of
numerous rules and procedures. These, in their view, can pile up on top of each other to such an extent that they prevent good governance rather than promote it . Knowing who is right in this discussion is not easy. We have set out to collect some information on the point. We are going to start asking agents, at the end of each examination, to fill out a check sheet about certain of the examined organization’s governance practices and internal controls. The check sheet is intended to identify instances of noncompliance found during the exam, and also to gather information about whether the organization had, and used, any internal controls. For each instance of noncompliance found – excessive compensation, political intervention, inurement, private benefit, material diversion of assets – the agent should ask, who made the decision to do it or to allow it? Was there a policy in place concerning the transition or activity, for example, and if so, was it followed? ….
At what point to we say gotcha?
Worse she goes on in greater detail explaining that is the IRS job to monitor your behavior in case you stray from being a person of good governance.
And she is in charge of IRS/Obamacare
sweeet….
archer52 on May 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM
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