Gallup: Majority of Americans approve of the NRA

posted at 9:31 am on December 28, 2012 by Erika Johnsen

With all of the vocal and vociferous hatred directed at the National Rifle Association, in general and especially in the wake of the Newtown massacre, it would be easy to think that the NRA is a highly unpopular organization whose deplorable degree of ill-begotten political clout only comes from some nefarious combination of money and corruption. The denunciations of the gun-rights advocate range from fervently partisan to downright evil, and the condemnations might make it seem that their many ostensibly under-handed dealings are at cross-purposes with most Americans’ opinions.

The actual reason that the NRA has so much political clout, however, is merely because it has so much popular support. Progressives are quick to point out as fact that the NRA tirelessly works against both the American majority and widespread common sense, but the NRA has over four million active members and most Americans hold a favorable opinion of the organization, according to Gallup:

Fifty-four percent of Americans have a favorable opinion of the National Rifle Association, while 38% have an unfavorable opinion. The public’s ratings of the NRA have fluctuated since first measured by Gallup in 1993 — from a low of 42% favorable in 1995 to a high of 60% in 2005.

What is your overall opinion of the National Rifle Association, also known as the NRA?

… Favorable opinions of the NRA are much higher than average among the 45% of Americans who report having a gun in the household — although one in four view the NRA unfavorably. At the same time, four in 10 of those without a gun in the household have a favorable opinion of the NRA.

As Byron York points out, it’s worth considering that:

The NRA didn’t come up with the Second Amendment — they simply harnessed Americans’ widespread and deep-seated support for the Constitutional guarantee of the means for self-defense, in all its forms.


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I’m as welcome here as you.

lostmotherland on December 28, 2012 at 11:03 AM

You’re about as welcome as the HIV or Ebola viruses.

SWalker on December 28, 2012 at 11:39 AM

The Idiocracy is here – and libtards like Moore are chugging down the Brawndo as fast as they can….

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 11:36 AM

It has electrolytes.

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 11:42 AM

It has electrolytes.

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Can President Comacho be very far behind?

coldwarrior on December 28, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Can President Comacho be very far behind?

coldwarrior on December 28, 2012 at 11:45 AM

I’d PAY for President Comacho right now. :)

– I’d take Beef Supreme.

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 11:48 AM

I’m a member of GOA. I let my NRA membership lapse because they’re too squishy as compared to GOA.

44Magnum on December 28, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Can President Comacho be very far behind?

coldwarrior on December 28, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Well, our current WH occupier has LESS career accomplishments than Comacho had. Heck, at least Comacho had actual jobs prior to President – porn star, pro wrestler, and… (can’t remember what else)…..
I’d gladly vote for a pro wrestler / porn star (just not Jesse Ventura) over the incompetent putz we have now….

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM

I’m a member of GOA. I let my NRA membership lapse because they’re too squishy as compared to GOA.

44Magnum on December 28, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Never heard of GOA before (other than a few mentions here recently). I’ll have to look into them.

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 11:52 AM

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Resist We Much on December 28, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Know what I have yet to see?

A single lib, especially from among the trolls here, to say to another liberal, “Man, you went too far that time.”

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 11:58 AM

LaPierre didn’t say anything about putting TSA in charge of guarding schools. He made a perfectly reasonable point that we need armed security at our schools. Lots of schools already have private armed security (as Sidwell does), or they have local cops assigned to spend time at the schoools – they’re called “Resource Officers” in my area.

You’re free to join or not join anything you want (just as I will never join AARP), but in my view, under the current circumstances, the NRA is possibly the best hope we have to defend the 2nd Amendment.

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Who did he say would be guarding the schools then? If you send your kids to a private school, the cost of the security probably built into your fee you pay.

However, how is this done at a public school? More Government employees paid by tax dollars. That is not an improvement in my book and is a run around to not let school employees already there be armed.

You may be right about the NRA and their support of 2A. I’m sure they are not the only organization out there to do so but then again, when one even considers endorsing Dirty Reid, I cannot support them.

LaughterJones on December 28, 2012 at 11:58 AM

LaughterJones on December 28, 2012 at 11:58 AM

SAo long as local school districts control their own hiring and firing, budgets and maintenance of facilities, and not the federal government, one would hope that all local school security was provided for locally. and tailored to meet the needs and expectations of the local populations.

I would find it very hard to believe that LaPierre was advocating or would advocate for TSA or any federal security force to be placed in our schools…for any reason.

coldwarrior on December 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM

I finally got a hotel room in Houston for the NRA Convention just about all are sold out for May 2 thur 5th 2013 …. BUT the hotels are giving discounts in DC cause the Inaguration of the Obama-nation is not selling.

charmingtail on December 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM

They do NOT, no one I know likes them the least bit-Michael Moore.

JFKY on December 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Loading fu3l rods into Little B0y to drop on F@t Man later today or tomorrow, but….

BEHOLD:

“We’re an awfully fearful country considering that, unlike most nations, we’ve never been inv@ded. (No, 1812 wasn’t an inv@sion. We started it.) Why on earth would we need 300 million guns in our homes? I get why the Russians might be a little sp0oked (over 20 million of them died in World War II). But what’s our excuse? Worried that the Ind1ans from the casino may go on the w@rpath? Concerned that the Canadians seem to be am@ssing too many Tim Horton’s donut shops on both sides of the border?

No. It’s because too many white people are afr@id of bl@ck people. Period.

The vast majority of the guns in the U.S. are sold to white people who live in the suburbs or the country. When we f@ntasize about being mugg3d or home inv@ded, what’s the image of the p3rpetrator in our heads? Is it the freckled-face kid from down the street – or is it someone who is, if not bl@ck, at least poor?

Calm down, white people, and put away your guns.”

Michael Moore, Celebrating the Prince of Peace in the Land of Guns, 24 December 2012

You first…personally…ya f@t, ‘fr@idy, WHITE man (I think).

Resist We Much on December 28, 2012 at 12:06 PM

They do NOT, no one I know likes them the least bit-Michael Moore.

JFKY on December 28, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Loading fu3l rods into Little B0y to drop on F@t Man later today or tomorrow, but….

BEHOLD:

“We’re an awfully fearful country considering that, unlike most nations, we’ve never been inv@ded. (No, 1812 wasn’t an inv@sion. We started it.) Why on earth would we need 300 million guns in our homes?

It’s because too many white people are afr@id of bl@ck people. Period.

Calm down, white people, and put away your guns.”

Michael Moore, Celebrating the Prince of Peace in the Land of Guns, 24 December 2012

You first…personally…ya f@t, ‘fr@idy, WHITE man (I think).

Resist We Much on December 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM

BUT the hotels are giving discounts in DC cause the Inaguration of the Obama-nation is not selling.

charmingtail on December 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Then maybe those DC hotels should do the Obama-thing and let the homeless spend a free night. With room service, too.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM

On this issue about guns, I got this about what bho/dhs and their agenda? I don’t know if this is ‘true or not’, but this is a FYI for something to think about? As I said, ‘true or not’?

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=364c513134-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email
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letget on December 28, 2012 at 12:09 PM

FINALLY! I wish HA would put up a Do-Not-Use word list. Yikes!

Too bad George Carlin is dead. He could do an entire show on HA banned words and how one goes about figuring them out.

Resist We Much on December 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

My instinct is that LaPierre’s bold proposal to put armed security at schools, followed by his unflinching defense of his statement, came across to most Americans as not “crazy,” but as a debatable but fundamentally reasonable option. He did the NRA some good.

cane_loader on December 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM

It’s interesting to note, too, that the people apoplectic about LaPierre’s proposal seemed to think it was a great idea… back when Bill Clinton not only proposed but funded the same thing to put ‘cops in schools’ at least a couple of times in the 90′s.

Or did I miss where liberals where hectoring him and calling him crazy and such? Hmmm…

Midas on December 28, 2012 at 12:10 PM

You first…personally…ya f@t, ‘fr@idy, WHITE man (I think).

Resist We Much on December 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM

You know, that’s funny Moore said, “White people.” The rich slob is whiter than I am, and my linage is Scot. If he was any whiter he’d be transparent! What does he think he is–a black person trapped in a white man’s body?

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM

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Resist We Much on December 28, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM

More like 2 black people trapped in a white man’s body.

kingsjester on December 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM

More like 2 black people trapped in a white man’s body.

kingsjester on December 28, 2012 at 12:16 PM

LOL

Good one!

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:17 PM

You know, that’s funny Moore said, “White people.” The rich slob is whiter than I am, and my linage is Scot. If he was any whiter he’d be transparent! What does he think he is–a black person trapped in a white man’s body?

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:12 PM

No no no. He’s not black. He’s progressive. He’s genderless (though not sexless, but that doesn’t matter because he’s not “deterministic”), and he’s race-less, and he’s a-religious and well beyond anachronistic comfort-thoughts like “good” and “evil.”

He is above. We are below. He is transcendent. We are slough.

(Insert huge, huge new-age music here.)

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 12:18 PM

No no no. He’s not black. He’s progressive. He’s genderless (though not sexless, but that doesn’t matter because he’s not “deterministic”), and he’s race-less, and he’s a-religious and well beyond anachronistic comfort-thoughts like “good” and “evil.”

He is above. We are below. He is transcendent. We are slough.

(Insert huge, huge new-age music here.)

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 12:18 PM

In other words, the kind of alien that wouldn’t ever appear in a Star Trek movie?

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Who did he say would be guarding the schools then? If you send your kids to a private school, the cost of the security probably built into your fee you pay.

However, how is this done at a public school? More Government employees paid by tax dollars. That is not an improvement in my book and is a run around to not let school employees already there be armed.
LaughterJones on December 28, 2012 at 11:58 AM

As I posted earlier, my public school district already has local cops assigned to the schools, they call them “Resource Officers”. Yes they are local government employees and paid for by taxes – whether school funds or police funds – but it is all handled locally – no federal TSA gropers involved.
As I also previously indicated, I favor letting school staff be armed as well – but that is far less likely to get approval across the country – so I’m ok with LaPierre’s proposal.

BTW – it may be worth noting Columbine High School had an assigned County Sheriff Deputy as a school resource officer. He was out having lunch when the shooting started (a factor they probably planned for), and when he came back he exchanged shots with Harris (from about 60 yards away) who was back at the cafeteria door – at a point in time when there were only 2 dead so far – but the officer did not go into the school after Harris. And this is part of why I support letting school staff / teachers be armed.

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM

In other words, the kind of alien that wouldn’t ever appear in a Star Trek movie?

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:21 PM

:) — Well, maybe V.

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM

*If V existed. Which it doesn’t.

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM

As I also previously indicated, I favor letting school staff be armed as well – but that is far less likely to get approval across the country – so I’m ok with LaPierre’s proposal.

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Liberals will never consider my idea because it destroys all their endless objections since liberals see only ends and extremes.

My view is having plainclothes armed police in every school, and teachers are trained to use–and always carry–tasers.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 12:26 PM

I dunno. I’ve read some Troll Posts around here, which I throught could have been written by lizard people…or, at least snakes.

kingsjester on December 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

We need to look at the fact, and the government should too, that citizens are a very cheap homeland security answer. Capable and sane people are everywhere and are already armed (many of them anyway) at no cost to the government other than their own papertrail expenses to keep track of them all.

johnnyU on December 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

I dunno. I’ve read some Troll Posts around here, which I throught could have been written by lizard people…or, at least snakes.

kingsjester on December 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Lizards are illiterate.

Snakes are illiterate.

Liberals are just plain stupid.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

We need to look at the fact, and the government should too, that citizens are a very cheap homeland security answer. Capable and sane people are everywhere and are already armed (many of them anyway) at no cost to the government other than their own papertrail expenses to keep track of them all.

johnnyU on December 28, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Like this one – that the LSM will never talk about:

http://gunowners.org/sdc08272012b.htm

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 12:34 PM

I dunno. I’ve read some Troll Posts around here, which I throught could have been written by lizard people…or, at least snakes.

kingsjester on December 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

An insult to self-respecting snakes everywhere….
Hey – I like snakes – just not the hypocritical libtard variety…..

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I dunno. I’ve read some Troll Posts around here, which I throught could have been written by lizard people…or, at least snakes.

kingsjester on December 28, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Well, there’s progressivism as seen from the inside out, which I tried to describe, and then there’s progressivism seen from the outside in, which you tried to describe. :) Point of view, you understand.

Moore, inside out: Towering god-man.

Moore, outside in: “Where’d he go?”

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM

All of these old Liberal Congresscritters trying to violate our Constitutional Rights, are the same ones, who as members of “the counter-culture” in the 60s and 70s whined and cried about the Establishment violating theirs.

Disgustingly ironic, huh?

kingsjester on December 28, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Axe on December 28, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Know what is also interesting about Moore?

No tabloid has ever done a story about who he is dating. They’re all over the celebs and who they are with. But not one such story has ever mentioned Michael Moore.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

My only conclusion about Moore is that real women tend to reject him.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Who is Michael Moore dating?

Not sure, but this little number seems to fit the bill.

///Content Warning: Not for the faint of heart.///

coldwarrior on December 28, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Note to Feinstein “the rights of hunters are protected” – cow, the
With Dianne Feinstein cast in the role of Scrappy Doo… Not good, not good at all… o_O

You moronic hag, see the 4th Amendment too.

The once freest land is now the most stupid of them all.

Weasels never deserve to live/work freely. Btw, dictators hate, hate, hate weasels. Otherwise they wouldn’t be dictators.

Schadenfreude on December 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Hey Libs, go . . . what Ted Nugent said.

WannabeAnglican on December 28, 2012 at 12:58 PM

I have nothing against the NRA, but that lame idea to put TSA style armed guards into schools really was bad. Who wants their kids touched in a manner by strangers that TSA does to airline travelers?

paulsur on December 28, 2012 at 1:06 PM

No tabloid has ever done a story about who he is dating. They’re all over the celebs and who they are with. But not one such story has ever mentioned Michael Moore.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Even libtard wymyns have standards, low standards to be sure, but standards that would likely exclude Moore nonetheless….

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

And out of those 38%, how many responders blackballed NRA because it threw its weight behind Harry “The Pedo” Reid in Nevada?
Archivarix on December 28, 2012 at 9:39 AM

My problem. NRA backed knee jerk lib Michigan Congressman John Dingell for his pro gun record Politico, 6-22-12

Breaking with old allies in the gun lobby, Rep. John Dingell signaled Wednesday that he will oppose the Republican-backed contempt resolution against Attorney General Eric Holder and does not view it as a Second Amendment gun rights issue as the National Rifle Association argues.

“We don’t need contempt,” Dingell told POLITICO. “What we need is an honest thorough investigation so we know the facts and we need to see that these kind of things don’t happen again.”

However, LaPierre is the one the MSM will allow to be the voice of opposition on cable, because they think they can use the reputation they created for him, against him.

My instinct is that LaPierre’s bold proposal to put armed security at schools, followed by his unflinching defense of his statement, came across to most Americans as not “crazy,” but as a debatable but fundamentally reasonable option. He did the NRA some good.
cane_loader on December 28, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Mine too. LaPierre was called in by the MSM to be a punching bag and he landed one. I may have to donate, although, if LaPierre keeps this up, he will be kept off of cable.

Although some of the NRA endorsements make me sick, LaPierre changed the national conversation. He stopped the snowball although the left has not caught on yet. Simple courage, whatever, he did it, and that ain’t small change

He not only changed the direction, he made people weigh the difference between hiding under a basket, and stopping their kids from being dead. He did it against the current of the MSM wuss machine.

This kind of event does not happen often. I give him my respect

entagor on December 28, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Riiiiiight.

lostmotherland on December 28, 2012 at 10:34 AM

I wasn’t aware Gallup was rated 24th out of 27 pollsters for this NRA poll. As usual,

F-

You’re Boring.

Del Dolemonte on December 28, 2012 at 1:34 PM

Just so politicians remember, the NRA is FAR more popular than the GOP. Republicans might want to remember that when gun control legislation comes up.

I can easily see Democrats slitting their throat on this, the elites live in a bubble.

BradTank on December 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM

No tabloid has ever done a story about who he is dating. They’re all over the celebs and who they are with. But not one such story has ever mentioned Michael Moore.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Even libtard wymyns have standards, low standards to be sure, but standards that would likely exclude Moore nonetheless….

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Moore imports hookers from Detroit to his mansion in Traverse City. But he has to pay them double for the excess tonnage.

novaculus on December 28, 2012 at 1:42 PM

As someone who volunteers in a pro-life ministry, I have found that hearts and minds are most often turned away from abortion by mothers who are brave enough to reveal what abortion did to their babies and to them.

Reading about Lou Ann Herron and Synthia Dennard, who died at the hands of “safe, legal” abortionists, says more than any statistics can ( http://realchoice.blogspot.com/2006/04/safe-and-legal-anniversary-lou-ann.html )

By the same token, the many good reasons for owning a gun, and knowing how to use it correctly and responsibly, are best conveyed by people whose lives and property have been saved through the use of them.

When I get my monthly copy of NRA’s “1st Freedom” magazine, I make photocopies of the “Armed Citizen” page and slip copies into magazines in waiting rooms. That way, people can read news accounts of men, women, old folks, etc. who are alive today because they had a gun at hand.

A good book along those same lines is Thank God I Had a Gun, by Chris Bird ( http://www.amazon.com/Thank-God-Had-Gun-Self-Defense/dp/0965678458 ).

KyMouse on December 28, 2012 at 1:43 PM

I can easily see Democrats slitting their throat shooting themselves in the foot (or other body parts) on this, the elites live in a bubble.

BradTank on December 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Since this is about guns…. ;)

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

I can easily see Democrats slitting their throat shooting themselves in the foot (or other body parts) on this, the elites live in a bubble.

BradTank on December 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Since this is about guns…. ;)

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 1:46 PM

Ok – I screwed that up…

I can easily see Democrats slitting their throat shooting themselves in the foot (or other body parts) on this, the elites live in a bubble.

BradTank on December 28, 2012 at 1:37 PM

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Sorry, correction

Note to Feinstein “the rights of hunters are protected” – cow, the 2nd is not about hunting, it’s not even about protecting…except from the gov’t.

You moronic hag, see the 4th Amendment too.

The once freest land is now the most stupid of them all.

Weasels never deserve to live/work freely. Btw, dictators hate, hate, hate weasels. Otherwise they wouldn’t be dictators.

Schadenfreude on December 28, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Schadenfreude on December 28, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Maybe I’m being too cynical, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pubs and Dems become one Party in the next four years, like how the AFL and CIO became one union in the 50s.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 10:41 AM

The “Democratic-Republicans”? :D

George Santayana was right!

TMOverbeck on December 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

George Santayana was right!

TMOverbeck on December 28, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Was that about Black Magic Woman or Evil Ways?/

dentarthurdent on December 28, 2012 at 2:09 PM

You’re not welcome here,

Who are you? Admissions Officer? I’m as welcome here as you.
 
lostmotherland on December 28, 2012 at 11:03 AM

 
Probably more so, frankly. Rational, fact-based posts might get a couple of “+1″ replies, but they don’t drive page refreshes, and page refreshes equal money for hotair.com (and townhall.com, their owner).
 
Seriously, think of who makes townhall.com more money:
 

The 2nd Amendment made sense in an 18th century context, not in a 21st. Repeal the 2nd Amendment!
 
lostmotherland on December 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM

 
or
 

So you don’t want provide the readers with the estimated number of crimes you’re going to prevent with a no-exceptions civilian ban on full auto weapons, verbaluce?

rogerb on December 22, 2012 at 4:42 AM

I guess not.

rogerb on December 22, 2012 at 10:01 AM

So a dead thread, verbaluce?

I guess it’s easier than defending flawed religious views, eh?

Well done.
 
rogerb on December 22, 2012 at 8:30 PM

 
I’m under no illusions regarding who brings in more money for the hotair/townhall corporate venture.
 
Congratulations, btw.

rogerb on December 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM

rogerb on December 28, 2012 at 2:29 PM

The trolls here are nothing more than horrid little monsters, who have protection. This is the Internet, so they have safety to spew here.

But they would never DARE saying in person what they post here.

Liberals are rotten horrid monsters.

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Again, I have yet to see one troll say to another liberal, “You’re over the top there. Back off.”

Liam on December 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Who funds the NRA exactly?

My uneducated guess is the gun manufacturers are funding it.

Your American 2nd amendment to your Constitution is a broad vague general statement. What goes on in America today is much scarier and larger than anything the writers of that amendment could possibly have conceived in their imagination, but not that we’d ever know.

I’m just glad I don’t live in the States (though many relatives do).

AlexB on December 28, 2012 at 9:30 PM

AlexB on December 28, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Start here…there are other references regarding “funding” of the NRA, a private organization, all over the net.

What goes on in America today is much scarier and larger than anything the writers of that amendment could possibly have conceived in their imagination

You are correct. The crime in the streets of our largest cities, those with the most strict and intrusive anti-gun laws, is an atrocity.

The fact that we have an administration, a political party, and a large number of Americans who would gut the Constitution because a dozen children in Connecticut were murdered by a known insane person…yet are silent to the point of criminal conspiracy in the deaths of hundreds and hundreds of children in our cities who are killed or wounded horribly by hundreds of thugs possessing illegal guns, in cities that have the strictest anti-gun laws in America.

Yet, when an average law-abiding citizen attempts to use a legally obtained and registered weapon for self-defense, most often they are regarded as the criminal and the thug they tried to stop is viewed as a victim.

So, yes, what the Founders envisioned is not the reality that many of us have to deal with daily.

But…unless one desires a police state, where we have more uniformed armed law enforcers than we have regular unarmed citizens…what is your solution?

Totalitarian police states where citizens are required to relinquish their Right to personal safety and security so “government” can control their every move, well, that is something the Founders wished to avoid at all costs.

As a citizen. I, too, wish to avoid at all costs.

Tyranny is tyranny, regardless of the underlying desire of those in charge or who have seized power or the citizens who would willingly surrender to the same.

coldwarrior on December 28, 2012 at 10:18 PM

What goes on in America today is much scarier and larger than anything the writers of that amendment could possibly have conceived in their imagination, but not that we’d ever know.
 
AlexB on December 28, 2012 at 9:30 PM

 
You’re talking about the 1st Amendment and the internet, right?

rogerb on December 28, 2012 at 11:29 PM

I would find it very hard to believe that LaPierre was advocating or would advocate for TSA or any federal security force to be placed in our schools…for any reason.

coldwarrior on December 28, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Me too. I think he proposed it as a federal measure (not necessarily TSA) to better capture the narrative. If pressed on the issue, I imagine he would support state and local control, even if federal funds are involved. Block grants to states, for example.

petefrt on December 29, 2012 at 8:21 AM

I’m just glad I don’t live in the States
AlexB on December 28, 2012 at 9:30 PM

Be sure, we are glad you don’t live in the states as well.

tom daschle concerned on December 31, 2012 at 7:57 AM

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