Are you ready for the big fiscal cliff summit?
posted at 12:31 pm on December 28, 2012 by Allahpundit
3 p.m. ET in the White House. No reporters, no cameras, just five people sitting around a table wasting each other’s time while an excruciatingly bored pundit class waits for smoke signals afterward.
This is the part of the Scooby Doo episode where Shaggy and Scoob get chased by the “monster.” I wonder how it’ll end.
Lawmakers seemed as pessimistic as ever about averting the fiscal cliff Thursday evening despite the White House scheduling a meeting with the top four congressional leaders for Friday afternoon.
The White House announced that President Barack Obama would meet with Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio; House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.; Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev.; and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky…
Republican Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said the GOP had expected the White House to deliver a new proposal Thursday, which never arrived, and that the meeting with the White House was originally supposed to be in the morning and was later pushed to the afternoon. Corker said that suggests to him the meeting might be more for “optics” than for cutting a deal, and he said it’s becoming more likely that the next Congress will have to deal with the cliff. The failure to address a problem two years in the making is a total “dereliction of duty,” Corker said.
Two obvious possibilities. One is that they’ll try to hash out a short-term deal that will extend the Bush tax cuts across the board for another few months while they continue broader negotiations, possibly including tax reform. Why jump off a fiscal cliff today when you can jump off another in the spring? A short-term fix might appeal to both sides since Boehner won’t have to worry about the upcoming Speaker election and O will have more Dems in the House and Senate to add to his leverage. Two is that Obama might unspool that last-minute “scaled-back” plan that people were whispering about yesterday but which never happened. According to Politico, Republicans are saying privately that they want Obama to up his offer on the new threshold for tax hikes from $250,000 to $500,000. (One Republican senator told NRO that a bill with a $500K cut-off would pass both chambers.) I don’t know why he’d do that now when he can dive off the cliff next week and then give a big speech proposing “the Obama middle-class tax cut” for those who earn less than $250K. House Democrats would support it unanimously (or nearly unanimously) and there’d likely be 30 panicked Republicans willing to join them.
Just one hitch, though: If you believe Boehner, he won’t bring any bill to the floor unless a majority of the Republican caucus supports it.
On the packed GOP members-only call, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., asked Boehner, R-Ohio, whether he would allow Democrats to carry a bill if the Senate passed a bill to which most House Republicans would object.
“I’m not interested in that,” Boehner remarked, according to a source on the call.
The speaker’s intention to stay steadfast means a rocky final stretch before Congress plummets off the fiscal cliff. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada tried to put pressure right back on Boehner by asking him to take up the bill the Senate passed earlier this year that extends the 2001 and 2003 tax rates on the first $250,000 of American’s annual income.
Could be he’s lying and just saying that now in order to pressure Obama into upping his offer, but having committed to it publicly, it’d be hard for him to walk away later. Question, then: How does Boehner get Obama to come off his $250,000 offer when O will have more leverage by going over the cliff, not less? One possible answer is to sweeten the pot by agreeing to raise the debt ceiling for another year. But could Boehner get a majority of Republicans to go along with that? Supposedly he had around 180-190 votes for Plan B; how many more would he lose for a compromise bill with Obama that lowers Plan B’s threshold for new taxes from $1 million to $500K and gives O what he wants on the debt ceiling?
Exit question via Marc Thiessen: Why not let it burn instead?
Update: HuffPo’s hearing rumbles that Obama will indeed make a “scaled-back” proposal at the meeting:
House Republicans expect Obama may offer to extend the Bush-era tax rates for incomes under $400,000, as he had done previously before negotiations blew up. The president had originally argued that any scaled-back deal should set that threshold at $250,000. Republicans still may insist that it be set at $500,000.
In addition, Republicans would be granted an extension of the current estate tax, which is a 35 percent rate over a $5 million threshold. The president wants a 45 percent rate on a $3.5 million threshold but would likely be willing to bend, in part because congressional Democrats are skittish about his proposal.
The deal would include an extension of unemployment benefits and various tax breaks for businesses and lower-income workers. In a concession to Republicans, it would not include the infrastructure funding that the president has requested to help stimulate economic growth. It would also allow the current payroll tax cut to expire, meaning that individuals would see larger withholdings in their paychecks.
The deal would delay sequestration, which if left in place would result in roughly $1 trillion in spending cuts over the next decade. It would leave the debt ceiling issue unresolved.
O’s going to come off of his $250K offer and hand the debt-ceiling issue back to the GOP so that we can go through another standoff over spending cuts in the spring? I know how I’d vote on that if I were a Republican legislator. And I know how I’d vote on it if I were a Democratic one.
Update: Hmmmm:
FLASH: President Obama’s opening offer on tax cut said to be $250,000 in income
— Bloomberg News (@BloombergNews) December 28, 2012
FLASH: Democrats said willing to consider $400,000 income threshold
— Bloomberg News (@BloombergNews) December 28, 2012
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Smart man.
rob verdi on May 21, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Yeah, why would Apple get the wrong idea, being hauled up in front of the Senate despite actually obeying the tax laws.
/sarc
gwelf on May 21, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Apple leaves its overseas profits overseas, and its domestic profits in domestic accounts. There’s nothing slimy about that. Paying 35% to import the money to the US would be downright stupid.
Fenris on May 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Juan McCain, the gift that should have been returned to the NVA.
tom daschle concerned on May 21, 2013 at 5:27 PM
Patience. America is only beginning to wake up from the nightmare where private industry is the enemy and government is blameless.
MadisonConservative on May 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM
It was BULLYING…and a subliminal ‘You aren’t a good citizen, Apple’ hearing. It was embarrassing.
For the record, I cheered the ‘whackobird’ and threw a shoe at that old, mean, deluded assh0le named Senator John Insane, who, evidently, brought home some of the NVA witch trial mentality.
I HATE, HATE, HATE JOHN McCAIN.
I HATE, HATE, HATE JOHN McCAIN.
I HATE, HATE, HATE JOHN McCAIN.
I HATE, HATE, HATE JOHN McCAIN.
I HATE, HATE, HATE JOHN McCAIN.
I HATE, HATE, HATE JOHN McCAIN.
I HATE, HATE, HATE JOHN McCAIN.
Resist We Much on May 21, 2013 at 5:29 PM
Rand is absolutely right.
And, by the way, see what all the eco programs and solar farms Apple builds has gotten them – hauled before the senate. If liberals want tax money, they don’t care if you use the New York Times page on your devices during keynotes. They just want money.
Dongemaharu on May 21, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Government…we are trying to invent a $1,000 iphone.
Oil Can on May 21, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Google having similar problems in Europe: Google Boss: I’m Very Proud of Our Tax Avoidance Scheme
All legal as well I suspect.
slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM
Levin is just pissed that he didn’t think of it himself. And McCain… well, his seat is safe for a few years, so he doesn’t have to pretend to be conservative at the mo’.
CantCureStupid on May 21, 2013 at 5:33 PM
From Market-ticker.org
What we need to do is throw out the IRS, and redo the entire tax law. It shouldn’t exceed the front page of one sheet of paper.
tom daschle concerned on May 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM
McCain stood up at beginning of Rand’s remarks; did he walk out?
And, if the GOP can’t use current situation to reform tax code, what. exactly. will. it. take?
aquaviva on May 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM
The thing is, everyone, even the smarmy people in Washington, know the tax system sucks.
But they’re obeying the law, they’re doing what the system allows them to do.
In the IT world we would say the tax system is “working as designed”. Get over it, or improve the system.
Meople on May 21, 2013 at 5:34 PM
So when is Warren Buffett paying up his back taxes ? Or it doesn’t matter because his secretary pays a lot in taxes ?
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Funny thing… even from reliably liberal tech commentators, Rand Paul is getting some good airtime. Levin and McCain are being castigated. This appears to be almost universal.
Heh.
Prufrock on May 21, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Meh. With this gang of lowlifes, criminals, traitors, and incompetents in Washington this is pretty much true for everything.
Personally, I hate Apple, have always hated Apple and think that the company is just lucky that lefties love to be abused by it. But, they’ve done nothing wrong trying to minimize their tax payments (and this is a hint why they hung onto the offshore cash for all these years) … except, of course, that most of the douchebags at apple support raising everyone’s taxes and like to ally with idiots like BiteMe and his moronic “paying taxes is patriotic” cr@p.
In any event, Jobs is gone and apple is headed towards relative obscurity. This is the company’s last hurrah before it goes under … again.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 5:35 PM
Apple officers
Have responsibility
Fiduciary
They have to do everything they can to maximize shareholder value. If the law is such that complicated, but legal, tax dodges are the best way to protect the shareholders’ interests, Apple has a legal responsibility to engage in complicated, but legal, tax dodges.
Haiku Guy on May 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Whether or not what Apple and Google are doing (not necessarily exactly the same) is legal in Europe is one thing. That’s their issue. This issue is that the US Congress is getting snippy that they can’t figure out a way to tax Europe.
Fenris on May 21, 2013 at 5:36 PM
From the Lois Lame thread:
Ok AP, now you’re just toying with us.
can_con on May 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM
John McCain – retire, please.
albill on May 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM
I wouldn’t expect nothing less from Shoomer’s Republican !!
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Amen, Senator Paul!
Deafdog on May 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM
Democrats write convoluted, overly complex laws riddled with loopholes and then decry the unintended consequences.
Why aren’t the Dems grilling Jeff Immelt over GE’s legal, zero tax liability?
Yet another reason to scrap the income tax, especially the corporate income tax.
Surely even the LIVs can understand that corporations do not pay income taxes, they merely collect them from consumers on behalf of the IRS.
Taxes are like any other product expense, (raw materials, salaries, marketing, etc) and are included in the price of the reduction or service.
In spite of the false outrage by Dems most of them, not all (Sheila Jackson Lee, Bernie Sanders, et al) know this fact but use the corporate income tax to extract more money from individuals. They don’t have the courage to simply pass a national sales tax. Too transparent.
Charlemagne on May 21, 2013 at 5:38 PM
How much in taxes did Solyndra pay?
Rich H on May 21, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Rand Paul defends an American success story. John McCain defends Dem. Sen. Carl Levin…
Weight of Glory on May 21, 2013 at 5:40 PM
God, I hope so.
Corporal Tunnel on May 21, 2013 at 5:40 PM
Charlemagne on May 21, 2013 at 5:40 PM
He doesn’t have to since they made a Buffet Tax rule. Ol’ Butthead has carte blanche, now, to hold back all of his taxes since his name is on a rule trying to squeeze every last penny out of everyone else. He’s the perfect leftist … just as they intentionally tried to create laws with disparate impact to satisfy their need for race-based everything … and then they set out to try and take every other law by arguing that it has “disparate impact”, even unintentionally (which was all BS, anyway). But they never examine their own laws that were designed with disparate impact as the goal. Yep …
I’m still wondering when ol’ Warren is going to lose control of the $30 billion that he allegedly “gave away” years ago – to tons of splashy press about what a great guy the slug is. Somehow, he managed to “give away” all that dough but it still shows up as “his” in all the “richest person in the world” lists. Funny how that is.
But, we all know this is typical for leftists. They only care about what people think they do, not the underhanded, nasty, stupid things they actually do.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 5:41 PM
They were never profitable, so no taxes paid. They only stole our tax dollars.
NotCoach on May 21, 2013 at 5:41 PM
McCain is such an azzhole, a shame to the land.
His grandpa and father are disgusting with what he’s become.
Schadenfreude on May 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM
How much did GE pay?
Schadenfreude on May 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM
I wish Steve Jobs were alive today to stand in solidarity with Rand Paul. That would send the left into a collective tailspin.
“I’m done with Apple!”
sent from my iphone
(expect typos)
can_con on May 21, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Does Schumer actually own Juan..?
d1carter on May 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM
bayam will defend the tech. companies in 3, 2, 1.
Schadenfreude on May 21, 2013 at 5:43 PM
John McCain- getting ready to take on the role of Jimmah Carter- certified nut case.
Scotsman on May 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Can I point something out? What the Senate is shaming Apple for doing is basically the entire structure and appeal of H&R Block. Watch this commercial.
Weight of Glory on May 21, 2013 at 5:45 PM
McCain has moved from wet starts to wet farts. The senile old coot needs to go.
HumpBot Salvation on May 21, 2013 at 5:47 PM
I wonder how much of that money is funneled back to pension plans and investment portfolios that are used for retirement as well?
Fun game: Ask a liberal where their pension money is.
kim roy on May 21, 2013 at 5:48 PM
In other words, Tim Cook declined to do something for this admin (Gov’t spying software in IOS?) and this is the government retaliation.
tdarrington on May 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Me too, sister. Preach it.
kim roy on May 21, 2013 at 5:49 PM
Watched all 10+ minutes. Great rant Senator Paul!
beancounter on May 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM
“It’s a game. We [tax lawyers] teach the rich how to play it so they can stay rich — and the IRS keeps changing the rules so we can keep getting rich teaching them.” — Attorney and best-selling author John Grisham
natasha333 on May 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM
Because the whole goal of fundamental transformation is to take money away from people and give it to other people.
Not necessarily “poor” people, because that would eliminate a Donk voter block, better to give it to more “politically correct” people.
Bruno Strozek on May 21, 2013 at 5:50 PM
o/t but breaking…
Resist We Much on May 21, 2013 at 5:51 PM
Some people are better than others.
Lauryn Hill’s going to jail while Buffett is not.
CW on May 21, 2013 at 5:53 PM
Why don’t they have hearings about all the “green” companies that have ripped off the taxpayer?
McCain was even joking about why does he have to keep “upgrading” his iPhone???
I am sure Apple has taken care of the great Senator from Arizona.
redguy on May 21, 2013 at 5:55 PM
The moderate and dem Senators are pissed that Rush Limbaugh is an Apple supporter.
redguy on May 21, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Yet Apple & most of their followers will continue to support the Libs, and bash the 1%.
Does this make sense?
portlandon on May 21, 2013 at 5:57 PM
I’m liking Rand Paul more and more. I’d have a tough time choosing between him, Ted Cruz, and Rick Perry for President.
Conversely, I like Rubio less and less every time he opens his mouth.
DRayRaven on May 21, 2013 at 5:58 PM
So heard about this ?
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/05/21/report-more-benghazi-whistleblowers-to-reveal-devastating-details-on-terror-attack-including-why-chris-stevens-was-in-libya/
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 5:58 PM
Oh we’re going to get paid back.
/
CW on May 21, 2013 at 5:58 PM
McCain’s end cannot come soon enough.
Midas on May 21, 2013 at 5:58 PM
two babes sitting behind Sen. Paul
commodore on May 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM
Carl Levin’s a bully!
Carl Levin’s a bully!
Carl Levin’s a stupid bully!
Carl Levin’s a stupid overpaid bully!
Carl Levin’s a useless, stupid, overpaid bully!
[OK, John, bring it on. I'm sure you'll hate me, too since I won't scratch your back.]
As for Rand, it’s nice to see some common sense in Washington.
And for the rest of the Senate, if you don’t like the amount of taxes Apple pays . . . wait for it . . . then stop bitching and change the tax code! Your nothing but a bunch of useless, stupid, overpaid bullies . . . until you prove otherwise.
Thanks for listen,
EB
EdmundBurke247 on May 21, 2013 at 6:00 PM
The Thug in Chief has priorities.
Schadenfreude on May 21, 2013 at 6:01 PM
1. Create high tax rate.
2. Create
market/social engineeringfairness loopholes for campaign donations from “concerned industry advocates.”3. PROFIT !!!
elgeneralisimo on May 21, 2013 at 6:01 PM
Indeed is Apple is doing tax AVOIDANCE, that’s not illegal, not immoral or unethical either.
Only tax EVASION is illegal.
Axion on May 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM
I am so impressed with this man! Very few people in Washington DC are impressive, so glad there is at least one.
bopbottle on May 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM
And which Party is largely responsible for these ‘tax loopholes’? What happened here — Apple wouldn’t be shaken down and it’s time for revenge?
THIS is a distraction.
As for McCain…He needs to just switch parties at this point and be done with it. I’m totally convinced North Vietnam twisted his head; their brainwashing worked.
Liam on May 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM
The government is running out of things to tax to fund their 1300 federal agencies and it goes for both parties too. The Social Security funds were a feast for the dems and Johnson loved every minute of it.
mixplix on May 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM
‘Toons of the Day: The Long, Hot, Dog Days of Summer and Scandal
Resist We Much on May 21, 2013 at 6:07 PM
BOOM.
That’s the figgin question right there.
RushBaby on May 21, 2013 at 6:08 PM
And the slimeball Jon Corzine is free as a bird.
slickwillie2001 on May 21, 2013 at 6:11 PM
I am simply amazed at the information gathering, knowledge, expertise, attention to detail, etc. that both Rand Paul and Ted Cruz have on many issues. I know they have offices, interns, research specialists, etc., however, I have great difficulty in trying to keep track of the Obama thug regime’s antics. They seem to just stroll along with ease mowing down the Obama’s thug regime agenda at every opportunity.
They are fighting for us on all fronts. It is time that someone stood up for private business. Thank you Rand Paul!!!
Lastly, I just want to say it is so very much appreciated. And I, like another poster, forgot what a true statesman is like. Its been a long draught.
Amjean on May 21, 2013 at 6:15 PM
OT – Marching Orders
Schadenfreude on May 21, 2013 at 6:16 PM
Biden’s economic advisor , planner of the stimulus, who ended up pleading the 5th ……Obama sure knows how to pick losers !!
burrata on May 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM
Not only is “avoidance” not illegal, a long line of tax cases say it is one’s “duty”.
Apple did not write the tax laws. A long a time ago we flipped a coin and decided on one of 2 ways to tax overseas earnings (basically not taxed until brought back, with a credit for any foreign taxes paid on those earnings). It is complicated, requires expensive software to calculate and requires a large tax staff to track, calculate and report (thus I believe puts pressure on Congress to not change it…it would put an entire industry out of business).
The US is one of the few countries to use this method. Most industrialized countries don’t tax overseas earnings at all!
teejk on May 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM
I despise McLame…
ladyingray on May 21, 2013 at 6:25 PM
I love Rand Paul! God bless him!
Yeah.. congress vilifies a company for following the law they create.
JellyToast on May 21, 2013 at 6:26 PM
No other country has American Democrats and RINOs, either.
Liam on May 21, 2013 at 6:27 PM
When will congress bring Soros in to grill?
docflash on May 21, 2013 at 6:40 PM
McCain has been in DC way too long.
Too bad, an idiot ran against him the last time in the Republican primary.
slp on May 21, 2013 at 6:40 PM
All this tax talk from idiots in Congress just reminds me of the criminal moron, Holder, who secured that last minute pardon for serious tax criminal Marc Rich, unlike apple which is just being a hypocritical lefty company that is doing the right thing (though it goes against everything everyone at apple believes for the rest of America). Funny how this all fits together.
Has anyone even mentioned Holder and his love of true tax evaders, seeing how relevant this is? Nah … this is pretty much the same Senate that confirmed that criminal for the JustUs head. Friggin idiots, traitors and criminals.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 21, 2013 at 6:45 PM
John McCain used to be a leader, but now he’s a dinosaur. Rand Paul has the ability to move the party his direction, while McCain no longer does. In fact, I suspect McCain may become a Democrat before long as both parties undergo a major reshuffling post Obama and Boehnner.
fatlibertarianinokc on May 21, 2013 at 6:46 PM
Personally, I am losing all respect for SC voters…they remind me too much of Teddy Kennedy and Robert Byrd voters…
ladyingray on May 21, 2013 at 6:46 PM
And not to mention AZ voters…
ladyingray on May 21, 2013 at 6:48 PM
Paul is a great statesman and God bless him for speaking the truth to those phoney baloney politicians.
Hey, he mentioned Johnson. That’s Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, right? Good on Johnson for what I presume was sticking up for Apple.
Dusty on May 21, 2013 at 6:48 PM
And don’t forget, Hillary Clinton plays the part of a war hawk which will fit very nicely with the war boys of Graham and McCain. While Rand Paul will be trying to end foreign aid and military involvement as much as possible. The 2016 race will actually be a fascinating role reversal which seems to happen. Rand Paul will be the more anti-war, less military spending presidential candidate while Clinton will be the war hawk, defending our past military conquests and backing of terrorists. I think we know which side McCain is on in this.
fatlibertarianinokc on May 21, 2013 at 6:49 PM
Ya got to love McCain’s moronic suggestion Levin wasn’t bullying:
That, my friends, is the acme of bullying and the petulant arrogance of a petty tyrant.
Dusty on May 21, 2013 at 6:54 PM
Fixed because you know if he didn’t say it, he was thinking it.
Odysseus on May 21, 2013 at 6:55 PM
Good for Rand Paul.
It’s time someone put these DC insiders in their places.
Shame on John McCain.
So why did conservatives have a problem with McCain holding the torch for the Republican Party anyway?
dverplank on May 21, 2013 at 6:55 PM
She’s no war hawk…
ladyingray on May 21, 2013 at 7:00 PM
Senator Levin, when are you going to call GE to a Senate hearing regarding the taxes that corporation pays?
Yeah, that’s what I thought…
ladyingray on May 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM
This is a warning to Google: play ball with us or else. They did it to Microsoft years ago.
Follow the money….
PattyJ on May 21, 2013 at 7:16 PM
Good for Rand — what he said is absolutely correct, and the politically smart thing to do here. I can’t stand Apple, but this is just stupid.
Keep giving the Dems rope. Let them continue to be the party of big government and overreach. Let them continue to show that no matter much water you carry for the Left, they will turn on you and eat you first chance they get.
rightmind on May 21, 2013 at 7:19 PM
While I agree with everything Rand Paul said, it bears pointing out that the people at Apple help foster this environment. They donate to every lefty politician they can and Jobs wife sat next to Moochelle during the State of the Union Address a few years ago. Man up Apple and support the right side.
Big Orange on May 21, 2013 at 7:20 PM
Not excusing Buffet the hypocrite, but the difference is Lauryn Hill didn’t file her tax returns. As far as I know, Buffet did. Had she done so, she wouldn’t be going to jail either.
xblade on May 21, 2013 at 7:26 PM
Damn that TEA Party Senator Rand Paul is making too much common sense; He must be destroyed. He must have skeletons in his closet.
racquetballer on May 21, 2013 at 7:31 PM
Taxes, in addition to being a tool for social manipulation, is also the means by which all entities pay tribute to the almighty Federal government. Apple didn’t pay tribute and now they are being hauled before our central planners to explain.
antifederalist on May 21, 2013 at 7:36 PM
Senator Levin, when are you going to call GE to a Senate hearing regarding the taxes that corporation pays?
Yeah, that’s what I thought…
[ladyingray on May 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM]
Ha! A very good point, ladyingray. Kudos.
Dusty on May 21, 2013 at 7:39 PM
For all the bullying, Apple walks out of the hearing with every offshore dollar intact.
Just for fun, I might have left a $100.00 bill on the table for the cleaning crew.
BobMbx on May 21, 2013 at 7:40 PM
By the way, do any of you small government conservatives challenge the premise that Congress should have the authority to call in private citizens to testify before them? All of these Congressional hearings are show trials. This is suppose to be a constitutional republic, not a banana republic.
antifederalist on May 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM
Lol…
OK, Apple is awesome at what they do well, which is sell trendy gadgets to people who don’t know any better, but they are NOT innovators.
spinach.chin on May 21, 2013 at 7:47 PM
This is the only time I’ve approved of using the caps lock key. Really, if you are going to call yourself a Republican, you defend legitimate business practices.
thuja on May 21, 2013 at 9:05 PM
First California whined that Apple wasn’t giving them enough money… Now it’s the federal government. Maybe the government should just take it over…
Apple should save California (or the country) by paying higher taxes
http://www.imperfectamerica.com
imperfectamerica on May 21, 2013 at 9:47 PM
Rand, Cruz, and Lee. So sad to see so few in DC with a spine and common sense.
ritewhit on May 21, 2013 at 10:31 PM