D.C. police warned “Meet the Press” in advance that they couldn’t use a high-capacity magazine; Update: Or did they?

posted at 1:31 pm on December 26, 2012 by Allahpundit

So says William Jacobson and he’s got the official confirmations to prove it. Yesterday this was a story about how onerous gun regs could trip up even an unwitting, innocent reporter. Now it’s a story about media self-regard:

Officer Aziz Alali of the MPD Public Information Office … gave me this statement by telephone:

“NBC contacted the Metropolitan Police Department inquiring if they could utilize a high [capacity] magazine for thie segment. NBC was informed that that possession of a high capacity magazine is not permissible and the request was denied. This matter is currently being investigate and I cannot get into any further specifics on this investigation.”

Could be that Gregory ended up using a prop, not a real magazine, but that’s not how he identified it during the segment and that’s not something that NBC has ever claimed. More from WaPo:

A police official said the case has been assigned to detectives in the gun unit. Investigators will first determine whether the segment was taped in the District and then whether the clip Gregory held up on air was real and contained bullets.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the investigation was ongoing, said detectives would be reaching out to NBC officials, but had not yet spoken to Gregory. Any request to use a magazine would have been turned down as a matter of course, the official saids, because it would have implicated police in an illegal act.

Meanwhile, Jeffrey Goldberg tweets:

That’s the point of calling for Gregory to be prosecuted, though — to highlight how gun regs frequently force cops to waste time hassling non-dangerous, otherwise law-abiding gun owners. Charging a guy for possessing a high-capacity magazine when he had neither a gun nor ammo with which to use it is an absurd illustration of policing the weapon instead of the “shooter.” In fact, given the publicity this has gotten online, maybe they don’t even need to charge him now. Maybe the mere possibility of it happening (or the possibility of Gregory having to address this on Sunday’s show) is so ridiculous that the point has already been made.

Question, then: If the cops warned him beforehand that he couldn’t lawfully display the magazine, why’d he do it anyway? The most arresting thing about the MTP segment is how gratuitous that part is; a photo showing a high-capacity mag alongside a regular one would have made the point just as well. Why risk prosecution for such a negligible bit of showmanship, especially when gun-rights advocates could point to it as proof of how easy it is to bring a HCM into a jurisdiction with laws as tight as D.C.’s? I think it’s a simple matter of Gregory and his producers wanting to signal to their audience that their commitment to journalism trumps all else. If there’s a risk of prison here, hey — that’s something they’re willing to accept in order to please their audience with a dumb, dramatic flourish while grilling Wayne LaPierre. Besides, the risk is small. How likely is it that an anti-gun district like D.C. is going to send a reporter to jail for something he did while confronting one of the gun lobby’s top spokesmen on TV? Even if they were inclined to prosecute, the public outcry — and resulting skepticism towards gun laws — from a harsh sentence would force them to let him off easy with only the tiniest wrist slap. He risked basically nothing with his stunt and got tons of free press for it. I guarantee you that he’d do it again if he could.

Update: The confusion over gun laws deepens

Well-placed law enforcement sources tell TMZ … a staffer from “Meet the Press” called ATF before the show aired to inquire about the legality of David holding the empty magazine during a segment on gun control. We’re told the ATF person contacted the D.C. police to find out if the District of Columbia — the place where the show is broadcast — had a law prohibiting such a display.

Our sources say the D.C. police official informed ATF David could legally show the magazine, provided it was empty. An ATF official then called the staffer from “Meet the Press” to inform them they could use the magazine.

So two different D.C. cops told them two different things?


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I wouldn’t be surprised if there are two or three firearms at NBC right now that would break DC gun laws. Laws are for the peons, not the credentialed elite journalists.

Dusty on December 26, 2012 at 4:05 PM

WHAT? What kind of radical would even suggest left-wingers don’t follow the laws they push for us peons?/

dentarthurdent on December 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Does anyone seriously expect anything to be done to this David Gregory news “journalist”? Obviously, I do believe, many of us know the answer to that one. Liberals are above the law! Plane and simple. Had a Conservative news caster done this I can almost promise you that person, the Conservative, would be in jail by now. AS I said, liberals are above the law and flat don’t care.

mtdavs on December 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Liam on December 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM

I have noticed the trend. But, not just recent unless four years previously falls under recent.

DDay on December 26, 2012 at 4:13 PM

[dentarthurdent on December 26, 2012 at 4:09 PM]

Shut up and get your butt back to the NBC websites and click on advertising links. They have wanton scofflaws to pay, don’t you know.

And that goes for everybody here!

:-)

Dusty on December 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Even if the ATF told NBC the wrong thing, they’re still responsible. If you call the IRS for tax support and they give you the wrong answer, you’ll still be fined for relying on it. Gun owners know never to rely on police advice on gun laws, as the cops rarely get it right and the gun owner goes to jail. Even California’s AG Lungren got the classification of the SKS Sporter wrong, requiring thousands of gun owners who relied on his written opinion to turn them all in to the police or face felony assault weapon possession charges.

Socratease on December 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM

I have noticed the trend. But, not just recent unless four years previously falls under recent.

DDay on December 26, 2012 at 4:13 PM

I think I’m just noticing it more since the MSM have been putting on the liberal full-court press since the advent of Emperor Obama I.

Liam on December 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

So David Gregory and Obama BOTH send their kids to Sidwell Friends, a (catch the irony here) QUAKER school that maintains ARMED GUARDS, and they’re both pushing for greater gun control? What do you suppose the “political” conversation was that led to armed guards at the school? The Quakers are against force. So who were those in favor of it? If Gregory and/or Obama was on record in favor of the armed guards, that would just be too delicious for words.

Paul-Cincy on December 26, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Dusty on December 26, 2012 at 4:16 PM

I won’t even watch pre-game or halftime of NBC Sunday Night Football anymore because of that dipsh!!te Costas. And I only watch the game if it’s a team I really want to see.

dentarthurdent on December 26, 2012 at 4:22 PM

I believe that the real question is who owns this magazine and how did it get into D.C.

wukong on December 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM

So, how do I get one of these great ‘felony waivers’ from the D.C. police? Are they available for all felonies, or just gun felonies?

Pork-Chop on December 26, 2012 at 4:24 PM

So David Gregory and Obama BOTH send their kids to Sidwell Friends, a (catch the irony here) QUAKER school that maintains ARMED GUARDS, and they’re both pushing for greater gun control? What do you suppose the “political” conversation was that led to armed guards at the school? The Quakers are against force. So who were those in favor of it? If Gregory and/or Obama was on record in favor of the armed guards, that would just be too delicious for words.

Paul-Cincy on December 26, 2012 at 4:22 PM

And ALL their libtard minions claim LaPierre is insane for suggesting that schools should have armed guards.

dentarthurdent on December 26, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I live in northern Virginia right across the river from DC. I could literally walk out my door right now and be across the District line in 15 minutes. (Though that would suck in today’s rain.) I didn’t know until now that this crazy law even existed. I knew about the no-gun thing, but not the magazine thing. So I could forget that I had a harmless piece of metal or plastic in my jacket pocket, go for a walk, and find myself in violation of the law?? This is how crazy our nation’s gun laws are. The Second Amendment is very clear. No restrictions whatsoever. Anywhere. That makes sense. Current laws, no sense. Why is this so hard for libs to understand?

Also, who was dumb enough in DC to think this would keep 30-rounders out of the city when you can drive 20 minutes in any direction out of the city and buy one with no problem? Crazy. Just ghetto politics I guess.

WhatSlushfund on December 26, 2012 at 4:28 PM

And the lies covering the lies begin…

ProfShadow on December 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM

I think I’m just noticing it more since the MSM have been putting on the liberal full-court press since the advent of Emperor Obama I.

Liam on December 26, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Yeah, something to that effect. I would suspect at least two more versions of the incident before it’s swept under the rug. You know, it’s impossible to muddy the waters to much.

DDay on December 26, 2012 at 4:31 PM

So two different D.C. cops told them two different things?

It doesn’t matter what the cops interpreted the law to mean. Possession of the magazine within city limits is the offense. No mention of its loaded or unloaded status is made in the law.

blammm on December 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM

So two different D.C. cops told them two different things?

Absolutely and makes total sense. Happens to law-abiding gun owners ALL the time. There is a standard mantra on firearm forums when questions about legality of concealed carry and like matters such as possessing a certain magazine somewhere … the absolute LAST person you want to ask about such things is a cop. Period.
They have no liability if they give you incorrect information that may literally ruin your life or at least your finances. They most likely will offer an opinion rather than the actual statute. And cops legally can lie to you about anything, any time, unless they are under oath.
Not saying cops are bad or that every single one will lead you astray accidentally or intentionally. Just that they are not attorneys or judges, you know, the ones who actually defend you or decide if you are actually guilty of violating a law.
Regardless of how this all happened, I would just say to David Gregory and NBC, “Hey, welcome to being a gun owner in America! Confusing and annoying isn’t it! You created it now sit down, shut-up and take whatever consequence you get. Mens rea is irrelevant in firearm violations due to lefties like you.”

deepdiver on December 26, 2012 at 4:35 PM

LA holds gun buyback early after US school shooting
http://www.breitbart.com/system/wire/CNG—1237972d4eb479fc58af0233f1a013d5—341

davidk on December 26, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to all of our cutlery informers
(or cutlery terrorists) today.

Sometimes humor is the best medicine.

Barred on December 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM

We all know this is silly but we all really enjoy Gregory being effed with.

Hummer53 on December 26, 2012 at 4:43 PM

it actually does not matter what they were told, if it was a real magazine (as presented during the interview) then he broke the law.
the DC law says possession is illegal. nothing about any rounds in it, possession is illegal.
so either DG broke the law by showing a banned magazine (in a show where he wants to ban the very banned item he shows…) OR he lied as he said it was a 30 round magazine.

dmacleo on December 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Update: The confusion over gun laws deepens…

And from the “journalism” angle… guess which side has named sources and which are relying on “anonymous” ones?

I think the Prof. has built a very strong case for the fact that MTP went way out on the limb here. Of course, the libs/media are doing everything they can to muddy the water & cover for each other… “It wasn’t loaded,” “we were told it was ok,” etc. (but pointedly not answering “where did that thing come from?” and “is what Gregory did legal?”

It’s fun watching the pretzels form, even if we all know Gregory & the network will end up in no trouble at the end of the day.

cs89 on December 26, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Absolutely and makes total sense. Happens to law-abiding gun owners ALL the time. There is a standard mantra on firearm forums when questions about legality of concealed carry and like matters such as possessing a certain magazine somewhere … the absolute LAST person you want to ask about such things is a cop. Period.

I’ve seen the ATF send letters to gun owners telling them it was okay to do things that were easily illegal. I remember one involving forward grips on “pistols” where they basically told people it was okay to illegally make an AOW.

Hell, they even once accidentally issued a MG tax stamp to a guy in TN. So basically they legally told the guy he could make a brand new full auto AK-47. Then flipped out and told him he’d go to jail if he actually did what his paperwork told him he could do.

Listening to cops for gun advice is a damn good way to go to prison. That’s why lawyers exist.

Spade on December 26, 2012 at 5:01 PM

HotAirLib on December 26, 2012 at 3:38 PM <–Doesn't bathe regularly.

novaculus on December 26, 2012 at 5:02 PM

it actually does not matter what they were told, if it was a real magazine (as presented during the interview) then he broke the law.
the DC law says possession is illegal. nothing about any rounds in it, possession is illegal.
so either DG broke the law by showing a banned magazine (in a show where he wants to ban the very banned item he shows…) OR he lied as he said it was a 30 round magazine.

If the magazine was loaded Gregory would be looking at two charges: an illegal magazine and illegal possession of ammunition for a firearm he does not have registered to him.

Recently the MPD has charged tourists with crimes for having ammo in their cars.

Spade on December 26, 2012 at 5:04 PM

So two different D.C. cops told them two different things?

NO. The D.C. cops told them that they couldn’t, that it would be an illegal act. The ATF told NBC that someone they talked to, allegedly a D.C. cop, told them, the ATF, that they could. See the difference. Besides that the ATF has nothing to do with this since it’s strictly a local D.C. law that was violated. Why would NBC even contact the ATF. The ATF should have merely told NBC that it wouldn’t violate any Federal laws.

Oldnuke on December 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM

The ATF should have merely told NBC that it wouldn’t violate any Federal laws.

Oldnuke on December 26, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Liberals don’t understand the whole local laws vs Federal laws. They think that if they received the go ahead from the Feds, then they couldn’t possibly be in violation of the local law.

To them it is like getting a second medical opinion from a more specialized practitioner.

weaselyone on December 26, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Does anyone seriously expect anything to be done to this David Gregory news “journalist”? Obviously, I do believe, many of us know the answer to that one. Liberals are above the law! Plane and simple. Had a Conservative news caster done this I can almost promise you that person, the Conservative, would be in jail by now. AS I said, liberals are above the law and flat don’t care.

mtdavs on December 26, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Most liberals aren’t immune but the ruling class is.

FloatingRock on December 26, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Ace has Howie Kurtz most recent brain-farts on the that wanton scofflaw Gregory:

Was the moderator of Meet the Press caught on tape, armed and dangerous, liberating a few Slurpees from a 7-Eleven? No, he waved a high-capacity ammunition clip on the air while interviewing Wayne LaPierre, asking it shouldn’t be banned.

Was it a stunt? Yep, and an eye-catching one. Was Gregory being aggressive with the NRA chief, or seeming to push gun control in a confrontational interview? All that is up for debate.

But a police probe over what I assume was an empty ammo clip is a total waste of time. What it demonstrates above all is that journalists are getting ensnared in the political war over gun control.

The new standard for not having to abide duly constituted laws is if the law is related to subjects that are up for debate, you describe your actions as a stunt, preferably an eye-catching one, and you add in circumstances that are totally unrelated to the law at hand.

I think Howie has obliterated half the US Code with that column.

Dusty on December 26, 2012 at 5:26 PM

What’s interesting is that the staffer who supposedly made the phone calls never got the names of those he or she spoke to in the DC police or ATF. Far as we know, that is. So, the investigation being done by detectives should easily learn the name of at least the MPD persons. I can’t see the cop who said it was okay (assuming there is one) getting in trouble at all.

At the very least, the staffer screwed up and should have called a network lawyer instead. Or researched the DC law. There is nothing ambiguous about it; the law is clear and there are no exceptions or dispensations for being in violation.

Gregory is indisputably guilty, as video of his broadcast bears out. No claim was made the mag wasn’t real or rendered forever useless for its original purpose.

Maybe next time he’ll use pictures, because the written word–like in laws–doesn’t seem to readily get through to liberals.

Liam on December 26, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Why is this so hard for libs to understand?

WhatSlushfund on December 26, 2012 at 4:28 PM

For most libs it’s because they’re useful idiots, emphasis on ‘idiot’, but for the ruling class on either side of the isle it’s because the 2nd amendment is the primary obstacle that prevents them from imposing their will on the populace.

FloatingRock on December 26, 2012 at 5:34 PM

If Chris Wallace had busted out a 64 oz. soft drink while broadcasting Fox News Sunday from NY we would never hear the end of it.

weaselyone on December 26, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Does anybody really put ANY reliance on information from people like Gregory?

How could you?

DevilsPrinciple on December 26, 2012 at 5:35 PM

So two different D.C. cops told them two different things?

Hell, just call the IRS with a ‘tax question’. Call 5 of their agents, get 5 different answers.

GarandFan on December 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM

How about this scenario.

Gregory’s tool calls DC police for permission to use the magazine they know it is illegal to possess in DC as a prop, and the answer is no.

Unwilling to take no for an answer, because he is “special” and the DC gun law doesn’t make sense, Gregory tells tool to call a contact in the BATFE. BATFE contact calls friend on DC police, gets “permission”, relays it back to Gregory’s tool.

They just thought they could get away with it.

novaculus on December 26, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Firearms laws are so much fun. For instance, here in California there are three different laws about what constitutes a “loaded firearm” depending on which part of the law is in force in your particular circumstances. But even knowing all three of them and when they apply is not enough, because you also have to know the court cases where the laws were heard and various different interpretations those courts made to apply them in particular instances, plus the interpretations of various local law enforcement agencies which will get you arrested even though the charges will eventually get dismissed once your (expensive) lawyer points out their invalidity.

Now multiply that by about 50 different state prohibitions, plus federal statutes, plus rule-making by a hundred or more state, city, county, and federal agencies (not to mention special districts and commissions), most of which you’ve probably never even heard of before.

Going to jail is the least Mr. Gregory can do for his part in creating and expanding this legal minefield gun owners are forced to tiptoe through every day.

Socratease on December 26, 2012 at 5:45 PM

If Gregory and NBC were so sure that they were in compliance with the law why did he not mention that the magazine he was holding would normally be illegal for someone to possess in DC?

weaselyone on December 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Regardless if the clip was empty it’s still against the law to possess this equipment in D.C. EOM…..

Tangerinesong on December 26, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Let’s get the NRA to organize a “Million Magazine March” in DC. Somehow I don’t think participants would get off the hook for simply using said magazines as a prop in their political statement (march)…but there is precedent.

weaselyone on December 26, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Hell, just call the IRS with a ‘tax question’. Call 5 of their agents, get 5 different answers.

GarandFan on December 26, 2012 at 5:36 PM

That’s why our political party should support the fair-tax; replacing the income-tax with a sales-tax like we have up here in Washington State. Combined with the efforts of conservatives like Tim Eyman and the majority of Washington voters that limited the ability of the state government to raise fines and fees without public support, our system of taxation is far superior and less corruptible than income-tax.

The tax code, like the gun and self-defense laws, are increasingly stratified in America. The ruling class, which includes Obama and David Gregory, have their children in heavily armed and fortified schools but deny the same to the people. The ruling class is above the laws that we are all subject to. Making the people their subjects.

FloatingRock on December 26, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Then again the folks here on this blog are against any law that limits gun access to crazy people.

HotAirLib on December 26, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Define “crazy person”. You PC libs won’t allow anyone to be called crazy, nuts, psycho, etc. And we have HIPAA, which does not allow anyone access to health records (including mental health) unless you personally authorize them – even parents if the “patient” is over 18.

dentarthurdent on December 26, 2012 at 2:50 PM

“crazy people” = those who aren’t Liberals.

And if a self-professed Liberal does do something bad then they ignore those actions or make excuses for him. They always have the Press and the various media outlets to help out with the brainwashing/propaganda.

Why does Ted Kennedy keep coming to mind here? Hmmm.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 26, 2012 at 5:55 PM

weaselyone on December 26, 2012 at 5:49 PM

If they don’t prosecute David Gregory and his accomplices, or alternatively expunge the records of past victims of these unconstitutional anti-gun laws in DC, then your idea may be a great way of making a powerful political point to the American people, exposing how the ruling class is immune to the laws the rest of us are subject to.

The ruling class is overplaying a weak hand, IMO.

FloatingRock on December 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM

If Gregory and NBC were so sure that they were in compliance with the law why did he not mention that the magazine he was holding would normally be illegal for someone to possess in DC?

weaselyone on December 26, 2012 at 5:46 PM

He probably didn’t expect any real scrutiny because he’s a reporter/commentator, especially by DC police detectives. Police involvement now has Gregory’s colleagues basically saying he pulled an innocent stunt, so everyone should let it pass.

It’s almost an axiom to me that, when a reporter breaks the law and media circle the wagons, the guy is guilty and knew from the start he was committing a crime. And, the way the Left goes bonkers about guns this is a serious crime. It carries up to one year in jail and up to a $1000 fine.

It’s not like he double-parked his Beemer in front of a fire hydrant and then jay-walked across a street for his morning latte.

Liam on December 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM

In the absence opf any harm caused, Gregory shouldn’t be prosecuted for possessing a magazine, and neither should anybody else, period.

Kenosha Kid on December 26, 2012 at 6:13 PM

I can get 10 different answers from the IRS, but I am still responsible for the taxes that an auditor and judge say I owe. It was illegal to possess in DC.

tim c on December 26, 2012 at 6:16 PM

It’s almost an axiom to me that, when a reporter breaks the law and media circle the wagons, the guy is guilty and knew from the start he was committing a crime. And, the way the Left goes bonkers about guns this is a serious crime. It carries up to one year in jail and up to a $1000 fine.

It’s not like he double-parked his Beemer in front of a fire hydrant and then jay-walked across a street for his morning latte.

Liam on December 26, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Remember how the Left circled the wagons in 2002 to protect their Reporter God Bill Moyers, after he was popped for DUI in the Socialist State of Vermont?

Some reminders of what happened next:

1. He insisted at the time that he was following the speed limit and was “in full control of my faculties.” He vowed to fight the charges.

2. Moyers walked after the helpful local cops waited 90 minutes to give him a second Breathalyzer. As a result he was allowed to plead to “negligent driving” rather than being charged with DUI.

Del Dolemonte on December 26, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Del Dolemonte on December 26, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Of course Gregory is going to walk. I’m sure his network’s lawyers are already negotiating with prosecutors to plead the charge down to nothing more than the equivalent of a parking ticket, or to simply make it all go away for ‘lack of evidence’ or something similar.

Liam on December 26, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Just wanted to say thanks to all of our cutlery informers
(or cutlery terrorists) today.

Sometimes humor is the best medicine.

Barred on December 26, 2012 at 4:42 PM

You’re welcome. I am pleased with the reaction. People with sense see the absolute absurdity of the lib hy-steria.

dogsoldier on December 26, 2012 at 6:27 PM

The tax code, like the gun and self-defense laws, are increasingly stratified in America. The ruling class, which includes Obama and David Gregory, have their children in heavily armed and fortified schools but deny the same to the people. The ruling class is above the laws that we are all subject to. Making the people their subjects.

FloatingRock on December 26, 2012 at 5:51 PM

“ruling class”

Maybe, but if there is a ruling class, then one needs to figure out where it came from and what allows it to thrive?

To the Leftists, such a group exists because of Capitalism. To the Conservatives, it exists because of populist journalism, active Socialists and government corruption.

The extremists on both sides will have it out while we continue to sink, with no resolution to our problems whatsoever.

The Sheeple in the middle are the big problem. They don’t understand where science, technology, wealth, resources, consumer goods, water, power, food, fuel, etc. even come from. They just expect those things to be there…because they always have. They will move as a herd and support whichever side promises them the most security, not the side that will force them to work, compete, and take risks in order to achieve wealth and heightened security.

Those out there that have fantasies of fighting the second revolution against the forces of oppression have not factored in the Sheeple who have no patience for those who threaten theirs and their families’ precarious hold on security. They will not support you, they will turn you in, and if necessary they will shoot you for endangering their families.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 26, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Seems like Obama Administration-directed CYA from a Federal Agency, but perhaps they didn’t need to be asked and are just taking one for the home team.

Greg Toombs on December 26, 2012 at 6:43 PM

HotAirLib on December 26, 2012 at 2:38 PM

There is no such thing as a “gun show loophole“, you pathetic, stupid clown. You’ve been propagandized by the gun-grabbers. You’ve been PWN3D, HAL.

Now, sing Daisy for us, HAL.

Solaratov on December 26, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Its about time. We have Gregory, that liberal pencil necked geek, right where we want him. Anyone tell you this is a gigantic waste of time, tell them we computer crusaders are about to have the cuffs put on David Gregory and his studio closed down as a crime scene.

We’ll show the msm we mean business this time.

smokin hot politics on December 26, 2012 at 6:49 PM

It doesn’t matter how many government officials say you can break the law. If only one says that you can’t break the law you have been placed on notice that you can’t do it. The law is absolutely clear as written — there are no exceptions to the prohibition of magazines over 10 rounds.

scrubjay on December 26, 2012 at 7:08 PM

DG should be prosecuted so the monied NBC can challenge the DC laws for the greater good of everyone. I would like that a lot.

amr on December 26, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Its about time. We have Gregory, that liberal pencil necked geek, right where we want him. Anyone tell you this is a gigantic waste of time, tell them we computer crusaders are about to have the cuffs put on David Gregory and his studio closed down as a crime scene.

We’ll show the msm we mean business this time.

smokin hot politics on December 26, 2012 at 6:49 PM

Nothing like being excited about using the force of government against someone exercising his unalienable right just because you don’t like his opinions.

Pathetic.

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

Dante on December 26, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Another apparently relevant NY law.

Doesn’t that say blanket requests for all licensees info should be denied?

novaculus on December 26, 2012 at 7:19 PM

He probably didn’t expect any real scrutiny because he’s a reporter/commentator, especially by DC police detectives. Police involvement now has Gregory’s colleagues basically saying he pulled an innocent stunt, so everyone should let it pass.

Too bad LaPierre didn’t know DC law well enough to nail Gregory to the wall on national TV.

But then, it’s not possible for anybody to keep track of all the laws gun owners can be sent to jail for violating.

Gregory has certainly been able to provide us all with a great example for the gun debate. If he’s charged, it will be an example of the ridiculousness of our gun laws and the stupidity of adding more. If he walks, it’s an example of liberal hypocrisy and how our corrupt legal system sends violators to jail or lets you walk depending on how politically connected you are to the liberal elite.

Socratease on December 26, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Its about time. We have Gregory, that liberal pencil necked geek, right where we want him. Anyone tell you this is a gigantic waste of time, tell them we computer crusaders are about to have the cuffs put on David Gregory and his studio closed down as a crime scene.

We’ll show the msm we mean business this time.

smokin hot politics on December 26, 2012 at 6:49 PM

LOL. Liked the Freddie Blassie allusion.

The alternative is for us to get off of the internet, and keep our mouths shut the way we have for the last 50 years of the Twentieth Century. Afraid that all we have left is an occasional visit to the ballot box and forums like HA. If nothing else, we know we’re not alone.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 26, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Maybe, but if there is a ruling class, then one needs to figure out where it came from and what allows it to thrive?

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 26, 2012 at 6:37 PM

The central bankers and with “coercion for governments around the world to wean their subjects off of gold and silver and to foist paper notes upon them.”

Dante on December 26, 2012 at 7:25 PM

So let me get this straight; despite laws banning Gregory from having a 30-round magazine he managed to get a hold of one?

/oh the irony

roy_batty on December 26, 2012 at 7:58 PM

…we need to start doing some bitchslapping!

KOOLAID2 on December 26, 2012 at 9:30 PM

from a comprehensive topic on this subject at ar15.com

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Originally Posted By Adjax65:
Many here are calling for David Gregorys arrest and prosecution.

If it was John Doe, law abiding citizen,resident of DC, making a Youtube video about how gun control laws do or do not work, he would not be arrested and prosecuted.

He would be violently SWAT raided at 3am. His wife drug outside in her night clothes. His children held in the yard at gunpoint, forced to sit in the pooling blood of the dying 11 week old yellow Lab puppy. HIs house destroyed in the search for the aresenal the magazine came from.

His name and face would be plastered all over the evening news. His job gone.

There is no chance he would be given any chance to turn himself in peacefully. No way in hell he could excuse it away as only using the magazine as a prop for the video.

He would be given the max penalty available, and NBC would give it week long coverage.

I demand the same level of treatment for David Gregory.

rayra on December 26, 2012 at 9:42 PM

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http://preview.tinyurl.com/chls3ms

rayra on December 26, 2012 at 9:44 PM

Gregory’s vacation was scheduled prior to last week’s show, according to NBC.

Sure it was, and Santa Claus is a fictional character, sorta like Gumby.

D-fusit on December 26, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Out of the country, no doubt.

JPeterman on December 26, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Can we start a petition to have his passport revoked? We need to start doing that with more lib idiots so they stop returning to their earth-killing mansions and instead stay in their Euro-Commie trash holes.

Nutstuyu on December 27, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Are there different rights for journalists than for citizens?

tom daschle concerned on December 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Surely. The First Amendment is their Kevlar and lets them get away with much. Besides that, they work for multi-million dollar companies who are well-connected, have lots of lawyers

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 26, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Folks, we are just a week and two years away from abolishing all lawyers! #BacktotheFuture

Nutstuyu on December 27, 2012 at 12:19 AM

So two different D.C. cops told them two different things?

Contrast the green light source of alleged phone calls to the red light source of e-mails.

Which came first, being told he could, or being told he could not?

rukiddingme on December 27, 2012 at 1:11 AM

In the absence opf any harm caused, Gregory shouldn’t be prosecuted for possessing a magazine, and neither should anybody else, period.

Kenosha Kid on December 26, 2012 at 6:13 PM

That isn’t the f’n legal standard applied to the common man, and it shouldn’t be applied here. Gregory should get the same shafting Joe Blow regularly gets by DC PD.

rayra on December 27, 2012 at 1:43 AM

This is abject proof of the irrelevance of gun laws when even the leftists who support the laws will break them with little to no consequence.

This is also proof of what a hypocritical propagandist tool of the left that Gregory really is.

Lawrence on December 27, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Even California’s AG Lungren got the classification of the SKS Sporter wrong, requiring thousands of gun owners who relied on his written opinion to turn them all in to the police or face felony assault weapon possession charges.

Socratease on December 26, 2012 at 4:17 PM

When did this happen?

roy_batty on December 27, 2012 at 10:46 AM

And the lies covering the lies begin…

ProfShadow on December 26, 2012 at 4:29 PM

Exactly my first thought.

LooseCannon on December 27, 2012 at 11:16 AM

What we are against are the radical conservatives who seem to be against any sensible gun control law that prevents maniacs from obtaining guns.

okay, HAL, I’ll bite. What’s the gun law that would have stopped the Newtown massacre from taking place? Perhaps that training course you recommended earlier?

The Schaef on December 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM

okay, HAL, I’ll bite. What’s the gun law that would have stopped the Newtown massacre from taking place? Perhaps that training course you recommended earlier?

The Schaef on December 27, 2012 at 11:59 AM

What HAL is refusing to see out of sheer ignorance and rabid clinging to socialist dogma is the crazed gunman in New York. There are lots of laws against that guy owning a gun, but despite HAL’s bleatings, those laws did nothing to prevent that nut from getting the weapons he used to kill the firefighters.

dogsoldier on December 27, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Lies covering lies, indeed. What we know: (a) a named DC police official — from the people responsible for enforcing the law — told Gregory he could not have a 30 round magazine in DC. (b) some unnamed person in some unknown capacity in the DC police allegedly told another unnamed official from a federal bureau with no responsibility for the DC law who allegedly told another unnamed person at NBC that it was hunky dory to have a 30 round magazine in DC as long as it was not loaded. Riiiiiiight.

To be clear, I have no doubt that by now the Obama Administration has lined up somebody at ATF who is willing to say that some unnamed person in the DC police gave him/her erroneous information. Because the Most Transparent Administration in History just rolls that way (cough Benghazi cough Fast&Furious cough IG investigation of Sacramento mayor cough Solyndra approvals cough GM/Chrysler dealer terminations cough). And Gregory is a valuable Obama mouth. Piece.

Zumkopf on December 27, 2012 at 2:38 PM

People on the interchubes are saying Gregory shouldn’t be prosecuted because “he is one of the good guys.” See how that goes?

antisense on December 27, 2012 at 3:42 PM

People on the interchubes are saying Gregory shouldn’t be prosecuted because “he is one of the good guys.” See how that goes?

antisense on December 27, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Perhaps if a few of the left’s “good guys” got prosecuted they might see just how stupid most of these gun control laws are.

dentarthurdent on December 27, 2012 at 4:54 PM

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/336573/laws-are-little-people-mark-steyn

This is a very good link.

And, yeah, I’m a crazy 2nd Amendment libertarian who thinks MGs should be legal and I agree with the media here.

You shouldn’t be prosecuted for simple possession with no criminal intent. How neat is that?

Spade on December 28, 2012 at 8:01 PM

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