Quotes of the day

posted at 6:01 pm on December 25, 2012 by Allahpundit

Should journalists be advocates for tougher gun control measures? It’s a question worth asking as more and more reporters, commentators, and TV anchors are openly promoting stringent gun policies in the wake of the school shootings in Newtown, Connecticut…

More notable are the ostensibly straight-news journalists who have come down on the side of stronger gun control. For example, when a Republican congressman, Georgia’s Jack Kingston, argued on MSNBC recently that tough gun control laws haven’t prevented mass shootings in some European countries, the network’s anchor, Thomas Roberts, responded, “So, we need to just be complacent in the fact that we can send our children to school to be assassinated?”…

At times the stereotype of journalist as anti-gun activist seems institutionally entrenched. For example, Frank Sesno, a former CNN reporter and Washington bureau chief who is now director of George Washington University’s School of Media and Public Affairs, said recently there should be a “media agenda” on guns to push the issue until government action becomes a reality. “The media themselves have a huge opportunity and power and responsibility to channel this,” Sesno told CNN’s Howard Kurtz.

***

The media paid scant attention to gun control in the past, in part because of a conviction that the NRA would block any reform on Capitol Hill. At the same time, they took their cue from the fact that officeholders in both parties were avoiding the issue at all costs—Republicans because they mainly support the status quo, Democrats because they mostly deem it political poison.

But since when is it our job solely to take dictation from pols? When it comes to subjects like climate change and same-sex marriage, the press has been out ahead of the political establishment. Given the carnage in Newtown as the latest example, journalists should demand whether we can do better. The fact that Obama now promises to submit gun legislation to Congress will help the narrative, but it shouldn’t be a mandatory requirement for coverage…

Here is where the media have not just an opportunity but a responsibility. The news business has no problem giving saturation coverage to such salacious stories as David Petraeus’ dalliance with Paula Broadwell. Isn’t keeping our children safe from lunatics far more important by an order of magnitude?

***

***

In a discussion about gun control, host David Gregory brandished a 30-round magazine purportedly for an AR-15 or similar “assault rifle.” The discussion took place on December 23, during the broadcast of NBC’s Sunday morning political talk show.

Washington D.C.’s gun laws, however, state that even possessing such a device is a violation. Meet the Press is filmed at NBC’s D.C. studios…

Breitbart contacted the office of the police chief and asked if there were any plans to look into this apparent violation of the District’s gun laws. In response, Chief Lanier replied, “Yes, we are investigating the incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real.”

***

Prior to yesterday, I never would have thought that possession of an empty magazine, kept separate from ammunition or a weapon, would violate the law, so I sympathize with Gregory on that point.

But I’m less sympathetic than you might expect because fear of unintentionally violating gun laws is one of the things that has kept me from purchasing a handgun…

That’s where we are with many gun laws, the law-abiding responsible citizens who worry about compliance are scared away or risk prosecution for unknowing violations, while the lunatics and criminals don’t care…

Certainly, if [Wayne] LaPierre had shown up with that magazine, there would be howls of gotcha, and widespread media demands for prosecution. Why should NBC News and its star be above the law?

***

As the State creates more prohibitions and steals more freedoms, it experiences an unavoidable problem: Those who administer or at least vigorously support the Prohibitive State discover that the laws they wish to inflict on others are uncomfortable straitjackets on themselves…

As the State increases in its ambition to Decide for us, those at the top of the control structure naturally look to excuse themselves from the blessings of Government Surveillance and Prohibition they would so generously grant to us all. And more and more what should be a liberal governance (old meaning of liberal) becomes a decidedly illiberal one, one in which Actions are not paramount, but Status

A liberal governance — again, I mean it in the old way — takes each man as equal and judges his actions only. But a government determined to make decisions for everyone and criminalize anything that it doesn’t actually mandate must begin making these determinations based on Status, because it’s the people with Status who have the ear of officials or friends in the media.

***

Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy

***


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4

Merry Christmas…

OmahaConservative on December 25, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Full as a tick.

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Oh, and Allah. Merry Christmas!

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:05 PM

I see HA is acting up again.

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Java? Thank you, think I will.

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Oh, and OC, you weren’t really first. Allah gifted you. ; )

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

When it comes to subjects like climate change and same-sex marriage, the press has been out ahead of the political establishment.

Great examples. That’s why journalists should generally keep their mouths shut. They can’t even do the basic parts of their jobs correctly and they love to abuse their positions in order to push their retarded and anti-Western views on the populace. Most journalists are stupid people who couldn’t understand the first bit of math necessary to even have a reasonable discussion of global warming scientology and are actively hostile to all aspects of tradition, leading them to support gay pretend marriage in their effort to take society apart.

Every time a journalists speaks about something I’d like to see some scores from standardized tests and quizzes that show how much they really know. We know that Al Bore got Ds in science, which is why he was perfect leftist mouthpiece for fake science, but his Ds should have been advertised every time he opened his fat mouth.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Merry Christmas OC!

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Buncha law breaking hypocrits in the anti-gun movement.
Gregory is just the latest most blatant example. Plenty of ‘anti-gun’ mouthpieces busted on gun charges. The Million Mom Marcher who later gunned down a crimnalin a courthouse hallway, who harmed her son – ‘cept it was the wrong guy. The black DC journalist / HCI board member who shot some teen skinnydipper in the buttocks – and did it with an unregistered (in DC) revolver, improperly gifted to him by his FBI son. The Fast & Furious ATF SAC whose personal FN 5.7 pistol was found in Mexico at teh murder scene of that beauty queen. Josh Sugarmann of VPC who has an FFL in DC, but illegally operates it in VA. He supplies the ‘assault rifle’ props to Finestein et al for their scaremongering committee hearings. Feinstein, who has maintained a CCW since ’79, whiletrying to disarm everyone else. The list goes on and on, every year there’s an anti-gun bigmouth busted using guns outside the law.

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Merry Christmas OC!

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Back atchha’ Bmore…

OmahaConservative on December 25, 2012 at 6:10 PM

The sort of totalitarian bias replacing our rules of law will eventually lead to and require one thing – death squads.

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:12 PM

*********** MERRY CHRISTMAS Peeps/PeepEttes *************

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:12 PM

That is a scary looking assault clip Mr. Gregory is holding.

tom daschle concerned on December 25, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder

Looks like it took about three weeks to surface & start making the email rounds. another one we didn’t see on the National News….Wonder Why ? See link to story below. This NC Democrat State Senator is a diehard anti-gunner. He has voted for every anti gun bill that has crossed his desk, but when someone invaded his house, he picked up a gun for self defense. Hypocrites! See another news article below the link.

Anti-Gun Senator Shoots Intruder
h ttp://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/national/article/74-year-old_n.c._state_senator_shoots_wounds_intruder_at_his_home/287987/P10/

Aug 24, 2009 Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74, shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor City, N.C.. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the politician’s home county said.

The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital, but the injuries were not reported to be life-threatening, according to Rex Gore, district attorney for Columbus, Bladen and Brunswick counties.

The State Bureau of Investigation and Columbus County Sheriff’s Department are investigating the shooting, Gore said. Soles, who was not arrested, declined to discuss the incident Sunday evening.

“I am not in a position to talk to you,” Soles said by telephone. “I’m right in the middle of an investigation.”

Soles, a top-ranking Democrat and the longest-serving member of the legislature, already was the subject of an SBI investigation over sexual misconduct allegations with former male clients.

The Senator, who has made a career of being against gun ownership for the general public, didn’t hesitate to defend himself with his own gun when he believed he was in immediate danger and he was the victim..

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Certainly, if [Wayne] LaPierre had shown up with that magazine, there would be howls of gotcha, and widespread media demands for prosecution. Why should NBC News and its star be above the law?
================================================================

Looks like a candidate,to enform,the Ministry of Obama Law!
(sarc)
======

Well,isn’t this interesting……………..

Andrew Kaczynski ‏@BuzzFeedAndrew

Probably the best way to conduct a PR campaign. RT @NRA: David Gregory Violates DC Gun Law On National TV http://thepatriotperspective.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/david-gregory-violates-dc-gun-law-on-national-tv/
======================================

Meet the Press’s studios are located in Washington DC. This morning on “Meet the Press”, David Gregory decided to wave around a 30-round AR-15 magazine.

From DC’s gun laws:

DC High Capacity Ammunition Magazines – D.C. Official Code 7-2506.01

(b) No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. For the purposes of this subsection, the term large capacity ammunition feeding device means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The term large capacity ammunition feeding device shall not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition..”

From Westlaw’s listing of DC’s gun laws:

District of Columbia Official Code 2001 Edition Currentness
Division I. Government of District.
Title 7. Human Health Care and Safety.
Subtitle J. Public Safety.
Chapter 25. Firearms Control.
Full text of all sections at this level Unit A. Firearms Control Regulations.
Full text of all sections at this level Subchapter VI. Possession of Ammunition.
Current selection§ 7-2506.01. Persons permitted to possess ammunition.

(b) No person in the District shall possess, sell, or transfer any large capacity ammunition feeding device regardless of whether the device is attached to a firearm. For the purposes of this subsection, the term “large capacity ammunition feeding device” means a magazine, belt, drum, feed strip, or similar device that has a capacity of, or that can be readily restored or converted to accept, more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The term “large capacity ammunition feeding device” shall not include an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
(More…)
==========

http://thepatriotperspective.wordpress.com/2012/12/23/david-gregory-violates-dc-gun-law-on-national-tv/

canopfor on December 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

ANTI-GUN WRITER SHOOTS INTRUDER
Post-Tribune (IN) See all results for this publication matching your search terms

Browse back issues of this publication by date

June 15, 1988 | Copyright
Copyright 2009, Post-Tribune. All rights reserved. REPRODUCTION PROHIBITED. This material is published under license from the publisher through Newsbank. All inquiries regarding rights or concerns about this content should be directed to Customer Service.Permalink Create a link to this page

Syndicated columnist and television commentator Carl T. Rowan, who has preached for years about the need for handgun control, broke up an unauthorized 2 a.m. pool party in his back yard Tuesday by calling the police and then winging one of the teen-age intruders with a single shot from his unregistered Smith & Wesson revolver. “Somebody will see irony in this,” said a terse Rowan, one of the most prominent journalists in America. “But I don’t.”
Rowan, 62, said he fired his .22-caliber pistol only after one of the trespassers ignored his warning and lunged at him as if he …

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:17 PM

‘Million Mom’ activist convicted in shooting
Bereaved mother shot wrong man after son killed
Published: 02/05/2001 at 1:00 AM
Read more at h ttp://www.wnd.com/2001/02/8073/#H7SAJhf4LV56Q84X.99

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

This is a stupid post because it ignores the fact that the media are advocates for any liberal policy they can manage to latch on to. The question isn’t should they be, of course they should not be. The question is what are we the Republican party going to do to stop them? And we know the answer to that can be found by reading stupid posts like this. Nothing.

SuperBunny on December 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Leader of No Guns group gets eight years
h ttp://articles.latimes.com/2008/jan/18/local/me-noguns18

Hector Marroquin, who ran the anti-gang organization, pleads guilty to illegal weapons sales.

January 18, 2008|Sam Quinones | Times Staff Writer

The director of the anti-gang organization No Guns, which the city of Los Angeles once paid $1.5 million to steer Latino youths away from a life of crime, pleaded guilty Thursday to illegally selling assault weapons to federal undercover officers.

Hector “Big Weasel” Marroquin, 51, was sentenced to eight years in prison, said Eric Harmon, the Los Angeles County prosecutor in the case.

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Does this blatant admission on the part of leading media representatives mean the the old plea of “Don’t shoot the messenger!” no longer applies?
After all, what they are plainly asserting is that they are no longer content to be just messengers. Now they want to choose and shape the message to achieve a desired affect. One that they’ve decided by their own values to be inherently noble and worthy.
So from now on, I would think they should be treated as combatants, and not mere messengers.

Lew on December 25, 2012 at 6:21 PM

Merry Christmas to one and all.

Even you, David Gregory.

(Btw Dave, you can effectively destroy that illegal GI mag you’re holding by stamping your heel on it. It won’t hurt, even in those ballet slippers you like to wear. XX)

CorporatePiggy on December 25, 2012 at 6:22 PM

Back in my days in retail, I had the dubious pleasure of dealing with the press on several occasions. Usually, this was when we were doing a promotion that was interesting enough to draw the attention of the news people (which should have been a very good thing. Free Publicity!) These news people never, ever, even once, got the facts straight as they were very carefully given to them.

Why should we trust them on anything? As a group, they are the most ignorant people about the world around them and how it functions that I’ve met in this life.

trigon on December 25, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Reporters on my Twitter feed seem to hate the NRA more than anything else, ever.

Well, at least Christians are no longer alone.

Bmore on December 25, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Christmas 2000, Sarah Brady buys a high-powered rifle for her son, violates Delaware’s purchasing / gift criteria.

They’re ALL hypocrits. ‘Guns for Me but not for thee’. That includes ALL of the POS ‘political Police Chiefs’ in Bloomberg’s anti-gun front groups.

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Anyone who
lives in a gated community,
has armed guards guarding their homes and family members,
drives around with armed guards in armed limos,
travels in military /private planes for secirity reasons,
works in buildings guarded by armed guards and metal detectors,
has absolutely no effing business telling the rest of us that we don’t have the same right to protect our lives with same guns.

burrata on December 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

That is a scary looking assault clip Mr. Gregory is holding.

tom daschle concerned on December 25, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Heh, David Gregory looks duly “concerned” in that screen shot, too.

I understand that his children attend the same school as do the Obama girls, where there are plenty of security personnel.

Unfortunately for us, most journalists are not too well schooled in history, economics, the Constitution, etc. generally, and they don’t perform deep research before they pontificate. They are little more than self-important celebrities who are somewhat photogenic.

Why not do a little investigative research on Fast and Furious or the travesty in Benghazi, David?

onlineanalyst on December 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Then there are the scores of outright lies and fabrications that creep Moore put in ‘Bowling for Columbine’.

h ttp://www.hardylaw.net/Truth_About_Bowling.html

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:29 PM

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

raya:On your linky,..

…Move the h closer….(h ttp://)….to (http://)—-:O

http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/national/article/74-year-old_n.c._state_senator_shoots_wounds_intruder_at_his_home/287987/P10/

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:31 PM

NBC Evening news BS reader said President George Herbert Walker Bush has taken a turn for the worse…

OmahaConservative on December 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM

canopfer, I’m deliberately breaking the links. The last few days of posting such info, often as not my post vanished when I included an active link. Got tired of repeating the attempts. So now I just break them all and move on.

Here’s the US per capita murder rates by state for 2010.
Of particular note, the rate between DC with the strictest laws (stringent bans and hurdles to legal ownership) 21.8, vs those with lax laws on firearms, AZ (open carry, no-permit concealed carry) 5.5

h ttp://i.imgur.com/32Z3z.png

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:43 PM

As the State creates more prohibitions and steals more freedoms, it experiences an unavoidable problem: Those who administer or at least vigorously support the Prohibitive State discover that the laws they wish to inflict on others are uncomfortable straitjackets on themselves…

As the State increases in its ambition to Decide for us, those at the top of the control structure naturally look to excuse themselves from the blessings of Government Surveillance and Prohibition they would so generously grant to us all.

“The year was 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody else. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.”

Harrison Bergeron, by Kurt Vonnegut

The Handicapper General and her minions, of course, were not required to be handicapped to be “equal.”> They enforced equality on others.

Wethal on December 25, 2012 at 6:44 PM

NBC Evening news BS reader said President George Herbert Walker Bush has taken a turn for the worse…

OmahaConservative on December 25, 2012 at 6:35 PM

Oh no. Obama giving the eulogy at the funeral if something happens would just be all kinds of wrong.

Merry Christmas my friend.

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:45 PM

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:16 PM

rayra:

Well,I’ve tried every way but Sunday,and the link itself on
TimesDispatch seems good,and its Boinked up at their end!-:)

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Michigan / Detroit(ban plantation) – 5.5
Vermont (unrestricted) – 1.1

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:46 PM

So full! I am going to be more than ready to get back to my walking routine tomorrow.

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:47 PM

How about some accuracy in terminology and a basic understanding of firearms, journ0listers? How about a little common sense or reason, if you will?
http://reason.com/archives/2012/12/19/flash-suppressors-do-not-kill-people

onlineanalyst on December 25, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Oh no. Obama giving the eulogy at the funeral if something happens would just be all kinds of wrong.

I don’t think you have to worry about that, gophergirl.

He’s a Republican….

Barred on December 25, 2012 at 6:50 PM

canopfer, I’m deliberately breaking the links. The last few days of posting such info, often as not my post vanished when I included an active link. Got tired of repeating the attempts. So now I just break them all and move on.

rayra on December 25, 2012 at 6:43 PM

rayra:What ever works,and Lefty Hippy-Crits,…yup!:)

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:50 PM

I don’t think you have to worry about that, gophergirl.

He’s a Republican….

Barred on December 25, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Doesn’t the sitting President always give the eulogy at a past President’s funeral?

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:52 PM

Well……….hows that CHANGE working for ya,Libs???

US holiday retail sales this year were weakest since 2008, report says – @AP

39 mins agofrom http://www.huffingtonpost.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM

Oh no. Obama giving the eulogy at the funeral if something happens would just be all kinds of wrong.

Merry Christmas my friend.

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Agreed. Merry Christmas darlin’

OmahaConservative on December 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM

That’s not good – not good at all.

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Not sure about that.

I could see Clinton doing it though.

Barred on December 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM

I don’t think you have to worry about that, gophergirl.

He’s a Republican….

Barred on December 25, 2012 at 6:50 PM
Doesn’t the sitting President always give the eulogy at a past President’s funeral?

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:52 PM

-
No, I think each president is allowed to plan his own funeral, and whether he wants it to be kind of a state funeral or a private one.

Wethal on December 25, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Otay,Turkey Time,enjoy everyone—–:)

Nightmarish Scenerio,ugh,…Christmas Tornados!

Christmas 2012 US storms

A strong winter storm brought a white Christmas morning to millions of Americans on Tuesday, Dec. 25, 2012 — but also high winds and a tornado that damaged seven homes in Mississippi. Looking forward, Tom Niziol of The Weather Channel said the storm was expected to produce wintry conditions from Eastern Oklahoma through Arkansas on Tuesday evening. Then, it will move to areas of the Ohio Valley and Eastern Great Lakes on Wednesday and Thursday. – NBC News

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/christmas-2012-us-storm
=========================================================

More: Reports of tornado damage in midtown Mobile, Alabama – @local15news

4 mins agofrom http://www.local15tv.com by editor

http://www.local15tv.com/news/local/story/Reports-of-tornado-in-midtown-Mobile/lFDwUfsIckutkYKCJxcrdw.cspx

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:59 PM

No, I think each president is allowed to plan his own funeral, and whether he wants it to be kind of a state funeral or a private one.

Wethal on December 25, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Not sure about that.

I could see Clinton doing it though.

Barred on December 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM

Thanks to both of you. I learned something new today.

Makes me feel better that Barry couldn’t make that day all about him.

Get better soon President Bush.

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:59 PM

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 6:53 PM

That’s not good – not good at all.

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 6:55 PM

gophergirl:I agree,its gonna be an interesting MSM spin on it!:)

Otay,supper time,Merry Christams GG—–:)

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Otay,supper time,Merry Christams GG—–:)

canopfor on December 25, 2012 at 7:00 PM

Merry Christmas and Happy Boxing Day to you as well :)

gophergirl on December 25, 2012 at 7:01 PM

I would laugh my ass off seeing David Gregory behind bars. I mean it. I have nothing but contempt for these MSM a-holes. They should be treated just like the French treated their whores who slept with the Nazis.

Mark1971 on December 25, 2012 at 7:09 PM

While the same media screaming for banning guns are on a 24/7 campaign to make Adam Lanza an international media sensation. Known for the wrong reasons, yes, but known nevertheless. Which is an aphrodisiac to the abused, low-esteem loner out there.

Of course forensic psychologists tell them all this – stop sensationalizing these things, flouting body counts and sirens and swat teams and running photos and details about the shooter’s life – but they’re too busy looking for false solutions that fit their own narrative to look at their own behavior as a possible contributing factor.

The point? It is not Adam Lanza who is watching the attention lavished on him in death, it is the next Adam Lanza.

But try getting through the noise to speak reason to the media when it’s in a frenzy. It’s impossible.

As to their assorted “remedies,” they would be about as effective as passing a national prohibition against killing more than one person at a time.

IndieDogg on December 25, 2012 at 7:10 PM

You gotta love chinese joints. They’re always open.

wolly4321 on December 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM

They’re coming…

jawkneemusic on December 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM

The solution for the media is to close the revolving door between the press and politics. Make a new House ethics rule forbidding the employment of ex-employees of large media companies for a period of something like five years. The House probably comprises a good half of the jobs Democrats imply or promise to journalists in return for favorable coverage. Once the political beat is no longer an audition for Congressman Libtard’s press office, maybe the press will actually have the nuts to do their jobs.

Sekhmet on December 25, 2012 at 7:40 PM

I could part davids hair from 500 yards with that clip.

wolly4321 on December 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

liberals hate the NRA like we hate the ACLU.

however as a pro gun person in general i see no problem limiting clip
size.

I do think an armed guard at every school is a good idea. far better than arming the teachers.

gerrym51 on December 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

And coming …

After all the promises from both Obama and Congressional leaders that indefinite detention for Americans would not be written into law, the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act contains exactly that.

What can we conclude from that? That both the executive branch including Barack Obama, Janet Napolitano and Eric Holder and majority elements of the legislative branch — the Senate voted 81-14, and the House voted 305-107 — want the power to detain Americans indefinitely without charge or trial. And why would they want the power if they didn’t intend to use it?

http://azizonomics.com/2012/12/23/the-depressing-reality-of-indefinite-detention/

davidk on December 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Howdy, y’all!
If we were still living in Illinois-I would not own a weapon yet. The red tape and hoops the state makes you jump through to get one…would make it not worth the hassle.
A week ago today, when I was ready to purchase my handgun, I handed over my TX state Id to the gun shop associate, and filled out the background check form. 20 minutes later I left with my S&W.
There was no hassle-and headaches.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

What is surprising here? Journalists just read the teleprompters. So does the president. Find out who inputs the teleprompters and then you’ll know who is responsible.

These people together are dumber than a box of rocks. If I owned a network, I’d train some monkeys to read the news and ratings would soar.

platypus on December 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

David Gregory is a criminal.

Throw him in jail!

williamg on December 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

ALT owns a Smith. ;>)

wolly4321 on December 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

I understand that his children attend the same school as do the Obama girls, where there are plenty of security personnel.

onlineanalyst on December 25, 2012 at 6:26 PM

That’s one thing I found odd about the “we can’t put a cop in every school” outrage. There are already SROs in most high and middle schools. Even if you just had random patrols stop by schools, it would increase the perceived security there.

And for libs who say killers would just move on, that we can’t protect everything? I say we should protect our children. Grownups have a responsibility to protect themselves.

hawksruleva on December 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Any constitutional scholars here able to explain how a compulsory ‘buy back’ could pass constitutional muster?

jawkneemusic on December 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

How about banning hands and feet?

Wayne Lutton, editor of Social Contract Quarterly, writes:

That was a very sensible “Terrific comment on the gun control issue” posted on the 19th. It is basically what the NRA has been saying the past few days.

I am astonished that they haven’t publicized FBI crime statistics about the weapons used in murders. In 2010, rifles were used to kill 358 people. Knives were used to kill 1,704 (over four times the rate for rifles). Hands, fists, and feet were used to beat to death 758 people (over twice as many).

Clearly, rifles are way outstripped by other weapons used for murder. But does the left notice? Or care? And how about the dumb right?

http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/024084.html

davidk on December 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

This is a stupid post because it ignores the fact that the media are advocates for any liberal policy they can manage to latch on to. The question isn’t should they be, of course they should not be. The question is what are we the Republican party going to do to stop them? And we know the answer to that can be found by reading stupid posts like this. Nothing.

SuperBunny on December 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM

So you want politicians to be able to censor what the media can say? I think a better solution would be to get more conservatives in the media, so that our viewpoints were better represented.

hawksruleva on December 25, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Here is where the media have not just an opportunity but a responsibility.

How about just reporting the facts and leave the opinionating out of it?

I can’t bother with journolistas following a ‘story’ or being ‘responsible’ to push an agenda. Say, if you people want to push an agenda, then take of the ‘reporter’ and ‘journalist’ hat, and put on the ‘opinionator’ hat. State your personal feelings AS your personal FEELINGS not as FACT or a pre-determined worthwhile OUTCOME. And if you can’t be bothered to actually REPORT THE FACTS and stop there, then you are doing a DISSERVICE to the public.

The agenda pushing is disgusting and LOSING YOU VIEWERS AND READERS because of your lack of HONESTY about tainting everything with your own opinions and not even bothering to figure out what the actual FACTS are. Like Mr. Gregory, there. Hope he gets some face to face time in a court room and the exact same justice as any other citizen would get in DC.

ajacksonian on December 25, 2012 at 7:52 PM

ALT owns a Smith. ;>)

wolly4321 on December 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Today I had the joy of informing my husband’s family’s resident uber-lib, that her Aspie sister-in-law was(is?) now a gun owner. Though she was on the phone…I could tell that it was just ‘killing’ her to have to offer congrats. Heheheheh.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 7:54 PM

I could part davids hair from 500 yards with that clip.

wolly4321 on December 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Speaking of which, a friend who works in tech at MSNBC told me that Gregory dyes his hair gray to give him more gravitas.

photom on December 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

a little something from Thomas Sowell as a Christmas present

There must be something liberating about ignorance. Back when most members of Congress had served in the military, there was a reluctance of politicians to try to tell military leaders how to run the military services. But, now that few members of Congress have ever served in the military, they are ready to impose all sorts of fashionable notions on the military.

After watching a documentary about the tragic story of Jonestown, I was struck by the utterly unthinking way that so many people put themselves completely at the mercy of a glib and warped man, who led them to degradation and destruction. And I could not help thinking of the parallel with the way we put a glib and warped man in the White House.

glib, ignorant…describes the media to a tee

and obviously, they feel that the country has now (finally) turned the corner…Now they can Rip off their Masks.

Ok, guys…we’re in charge around here…well, us and our dearest Leader and his beautiful wife…

r keller on December 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

I could part davids hair from 500 yards with that clip.

wolly4321 on December 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

Pretty good arm you’ve got there. :)

Solaratov on December 25, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Any constitutional scholars here able to explain how a compulsory ‘buy back’ could pass constitutional muster?

jawkneemusic on December 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

They would compare it to a Kelo-like eminent domain forced sale. You have to sell your property to the government.

Wethal on December 25, 2012 at 8:13 PM

If we were still living in Illinois-I would not own a weapon yet.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

Well, I can no longer say Illinois is all bad.

They were able to keep the world safe from ALyT…for a while.

cozmo on December 25, 2012 at 8:24 PM

however as a pro gun person in general i see no problem limiting clip size.

gerrym51 on December 25, 2012 at 7:41 PM

You don’t really think it would stop there, do you?

If they can’t do it any other way, the progressives will do it a step at a time.

Magazine capacity…
Flash Hider…
Railed Forend…
Pistol Grip…
Adjustable Stock…

Oh, what the hell…you might as well just get rid of ‘that kind’ of gun…and that one, too…and, of course, evil sniper rifles…and on and on and on.
If you give those b@st@rds an inch, they’ll take a couple of miles.

NO! Not one damned thing. Not one concession. Fight them tooth and nail over every one of their demands.

Solaratov on December 25, 2012 at 8:24 PM

What is surprising here? Journalists just read the teleprompters. So does the president. Find out who inputs the teleprompters and then you’ll know who is responsible.

These people together are dumber than a box of rocks. If I owned a network, I’d train some monkeys to read the news and ratings would soar.

platypus on December 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

………………………………………………………
That’s my question is have. Where is the surprise that the DBM is biased as hell and always have been.
NO matter what the dear leader proposes this is just another of a zillion issues the the drivebys side with the far left wing.
I don’t see the surprise.
This is part of the reason we are here to get the straight truth out since the nbc/cbs/abc kabal long since went over the hill siding with left wingers.
NOt much of a surprise, IMHO!

rodguy911 on December 25, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Fine arm indeed, sir.

wolly4321 on December 25, 2012 at 8:33 PM

As a pilot the coverage given aircraft accidents, especially those involving light planes, has been stupid beyond belief. These clueless twits jabber on and on about the plane “losing its wind” or similar drivel.

On another note I had been building my fun stash to buy a Ruger 7.62 Ranch semi. Last month I was pretty close and now up go the prices…..

owlpellets on December 25, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Good luck finding a journalists and NO they should STFU and
print / blab unbiased accounts and facts. Fat chance of that happening ! !

Texyank on December 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM

And if Bill Jabobson is correct, Gregory knew that possessing the clip was illegal because NBC sought to clear it though the MPD before the taping.

I’ll agree to disarm as soon as the Secret Service is dissolved and the president walks the streets unprotected.

Same thing for that doppelganger of the Grinch Who Stole Christmas – as soon as he is willing to put his children in the Washington, DC public schools with the poor bastards who have been reduced to sending their children to those wretched hell-holes by the Democrats he performs fellatio upon each Sunday.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is where the line in sand must must be drawn.

It must be understood that these people are not your parent’s Democrats – they are totalitarians, just like all the other totalitarians you’ve learned about throughout history.

Except this time, the totalitarians are our fellow countrymen, trying to tear the country down from within, and that they fully understand that the Second Amendment is the bulwark that stands between their evil designs and failure.

The current events of today are exactly why Madison wrote the Second Amendment – he and the other Founders fully understood that there would come a day when traitors would manage to come to power with the express intention of destroying everything that they had fought and died for in the Revolution.

Give them no quarter.

turfmann on December 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Gregory is an ill-educated and pretentious. His attempt to portray conformism as original is grating.

pat on December 25, 2012 at 8:41 PM

David Gregory is a criminal.

Throw him in jail!

williamg on December 25, 2012 at 7:44 PM

Arrest the gatekeeper…

Quoting Sir John Guilgood in “Arthur”, “Good luck in prison.”

Khun Joe on December 25, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Speaking of which, a friend who works in tech at MSNBC told me that Gregory dyes his hair gray to give him more gravitas.

photom on December 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

It ain’t working.

predator on December 25, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Journalists are promoting the World Constitution & Parliament Association, without mentioning it by name. Period.

Gun control is just one part of that agenda.

Environmentalism is one part of that agenda.

Agenda 21 is a part of that agenda.

Many unamed other details are a part of that agenda.
.
Journalists will fight “tooth and nail”, anything that opposes the WCPA. They’ll “make up facts” that aren’t, and deny facts that are. There is no lie that is too big, or act that is too heinous when it comes to loyalty towards the WCPA.

listens2glenn on December 25, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Speaking of which, a friend who works in tech at MSNBC told me that Gregory dyes his hair gray to give him more gravitas.

photom on December 25, 2012 at 7:59 PM

Is that latin for douchebaginess?

Rio Linda Refugee on December 25, 2012 at 9:21 PM

If we were still living in Illinois-I would not own a weapon yet.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 7:42 PM

.
Well, I can no longer say Illinois is all bad.

They were able to keep the world safe from ALyT…for a while.

cozmo on December 25, 2012 at 8:24 PM

.
. . . * Rim-shot * . . .

listens2glenn on December 25, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Agenda 21 is a part of that agenda.

Many unamed other details are a part of that agenda.
.
Journalists will fight “tooth and nail”, anything that opposes the WCPA. They’ll “make up facts” that aren’t, and deny facts that are. There is no lie that is too big, or act that is too heinous when it comes to loyalty towards the WCPA.

listens2glenn on December 25, 2012 at 9:20 PM

I’m reading that book now.

predator on December 25, 2012 at 9:30 PM

They would compare it to a Kelo-like eminent domain forced sale. You have to sell your property to the government.
Wethal on December 25, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Wouldn’t they have to prove the forced purchase is for public use? What could the possibly claim as public use justify stealing people’s private property? Taking guns away from us so they can be destroyed is not the same as taking private land so the gubmint can build a train.

jawkneemusic on December 25, 2012 at 9:36 PM

cozmo on December 25, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Enjoying your 1/4 of snow? Piker.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM

Enjoying your 1/4 inch of snow? Piker.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 9:39 PM

FIFM.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Any constitutional scholars here able to explain how a compulsory ‘buy back’ could pass constitutional muster?

jawkneemusic on December 25, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Compulsory ‘buy back’ is a tax ?

burrata on December 25, 2012 at 9:41 PM

boink. just hit my head on the ceiling.

SparkPlug on December 25, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Enjoying your 1/4 inch of snow? Piker.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 25, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Just enough for snowballs. It was great! Roads too warm for it to stick, ended before nightfall and all will be gone in a couple of days. No bad storms, the right amount of rain, guests left to beat the perceived worst case. It was all good.

cozmo on December 25, 2012 at 9:51 PM

I’ll hi Scrumpy you!

Lanceman on December 25, 2012 at 9:53 PM

@jwpetersNYT tweeted:
jwpetersNYT
Obama to cut Christmas vacation short and return to Washington as early as tomorrow, White House official tells NYT.

davidk on December 25, 2012 at 9:53 PM

“The media isn’t biased.” Ha ha ha. Anyone who has said that before has been thoroughly disproven and should be mocked accordingly.

drewwerd on December 25, 2012 at 9:54 PM

On another note I had been building my fun stash to buy a Ruger 7.62 Ranch semi. Last month I was pretty close and now up go the prices…..

owlpellets on December 25, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Just look around for an SKS. They make a very handy “ranch” rifle for hauling around the property and they are reasonably accurate.
Try to find a Yugoslavian if you can (and take off the bayonet).
The prices on an SKS haven’t gone out of sight yet, either.

Solaratov on December 25, 2012 at 9:54 PM

boink. just hit my head on the ceiling.

SparkPlug on December 25, 2012 at 9:50 PM

Where’s your helmet. We have laws, you know.

davidk on December 25, 2012 at 9:55 PM

Comment pages: 1 2 3 4