How to deport Piers Morgan

posted at 12:31 pm on December 23, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Here’s a plan which probably has roughly the same chance of succeeding as a NASA mission to land on the sun, but it’s attracting more than a little attention this holiday weekend. One of the “reasonable discussion” voices in the gun grabbing movement will be familiar to regular readers. He’s CNN’s Pier’s Morgan, who reasonably told someone who dared to suggest the Second Amendment was still important that he must be “a very stupid man.” The British, non-citizen’s repeated commentary about the need to start snatching up all of those nasty guns has now drawn some attention of an unwelcome sort, as reported by The Daily Caller.

Wall Street Journal columnist James Taranto Saturday night joined in the chorus of American voices suggesting that British-born CNN host Piers Morgan could legally be deported from this country for his televised attacks on the Second Amendment, and pointed out the legal precedent that leaves Morgan vulnerable to deportation.

Morgan began the dispute when he complained on Twitter Saturday about a petition on the White House’s “We the People” Web page that asks the government to deport him.

“British Citizen and CNN television host Piers Morgan is engaged in a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment. We demand that Mr. Morgan be deported immediately for his effort to undermine the Bill of Rights,” the drafters of the petition wrote in their introductory statement.

They’ve already gotten more than 15,000 signatures as of Sunday morning, out of the 25,000 needed to trigger a White House response. This is entirely symbolic, of course, since there is no way that the White House would suddenly deport one of their biggest cheerleaders, and even if they did it would set a horrible precedent. I do agree, however, with Taranto on the merits that Morgan’s position – as a non-citizen – is hardly assured. They had a brief exchange on Twitter covering this subject.

“Ironic U.S. gun rights campaign to deport me for ‘attacking 2nd Amendment rights’ – is my opinion not protected under 1st Amendment rights?,” Morgan tweeted.

“Your opinion is protected, your presence in the U.S. is not. See Kleindienst v. Mandel (1972),” Taranto replied to Morgan.

While this may be technically true, one of the crowning and wonderful ironies of our system is that we can criticize anything we like, including the Bill of Rights which allows us to do so. Of course, not being a citizen, one could argue that Morgan’s rights might not be quite as generous, but we traditionally allow a broad platform for anyone to participate in the free exchange of ideas. (No matter how offensive they might be.) Further, citizen or not, Morgan is ostensibly part of the media. If the day has actually arrived when the United States government starts shipping journalists out of the country (even if we’re stretching the definition a bit here) then we’ve got a real problem.

But this also brings up another question for me. We’ve been running this little “We the People” petitioning experiment for a few years now. Do we need to continue with it at this point? I mean, has there ever been a single, meaningful proposal brought up there which wasn’t already under debate and consideration by Congress which actually went anywhere? (I’m not saying there hasn’t been. I just can’t think of one, but would be happy to hear any examples.) I mean, if they could actually produce something productive, like diverting PBS spending into funding the blimp that guy is building to find Bigfoot, then I could see doing it. But thus far it really looks like little more than a diversion for bored people who want to draw some headlines.


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tom daschle concerned on December 23, 2012 at 2:20 PM

right over your head>>zoom~
So naughty lately.

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Britty slang for ERASER you dirty minded…

cozmo on December 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Britty slang for ERASER you dirty minded…

cozmo on December 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM

LOL! Well played Coz!..you got me.
;)
Your fault..you have influenced me. :)

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 2:33 PM

I can’t tell Piers Morgan and Joy Behar apart.

John the Libertarian on December 23, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Easy. Behar is the one with male genitalia.

M240H on December 23, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Piers keeps one in his nightstand.

VegasRick on December 23, 2012 at 2:34 PM

I can’t tell Piers Morgan and Joy Behar apart.

John the Libertarian on December 23, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Easy. Behar is the one with male genitalia.

M240H on December 23, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Piers keeps one in his nightstand.

VegasRick on December 23, 2012 at 2:34 PM

…still can’t tell!…the stench is the same!

KOOLAID2 on December 23, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Forget the petitions. Just confront the bastard and humiliate him at every opportunity. Stop treating the media with any respect at all. Every Republican goes into the interviews with his hat in his hand and a deferential, simpering smile painted on his face. Why for God’s sake? These people are clowns! Treat them like it.

rrpjr on December 23, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Your fault..you have influenced me. :)

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Somehow, its always my fault…

Ya’ know, I’ll take that one.

cozmo on December 23, 2012 at 2:54 PM

I can’t tell Piers Morgan and Joy Behar apart.

John the Libertarian on December 23, 2012 at 12:38 PM

Piers is much prettier than Joy(less) Behar.

JannyMae on December 23, 2012 at 3:10 PM

The best cure for bad speech is more speech. The alternative was graphically illustrated by the Canadians when they went after Mark Steyn and Ezra Levant for publishing an article that a radical jihadist Canadian imam found offensive.

It was a show trial – amusing on the face of it but also a very revealing example of how little regard for liberty the Canadians have.

Most people would have settled out of court because they lack the means or drive to take on these pocket Hitlers.

I’m absolutely certain Barky and his fellow travelers would think deporting Morgan on some kind of trumped up sedition charge would be entirely worth it if it would allow them to hire an army of Richard Warmans to command the new AMERICAN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. And as Steyn notes at length, “Human Rights” these days is used as carte blanche in the West to persecute those of opposing viewpoints with the full weight of the State.

CorporatePiggy on December 23, 2012 at 3:22 PM

“Ironic U.S. gun rights campaign to deport me for ‘attacking 2nd Amendment rights’ – is my opinion not protected under 1st Amendment rights?,” Morgan tweeted.

..by the SECOND AMENDMENT, assshole!

The War Planner on December 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Having him take on Ted Nugent on a nightly basis may solve the Morgan problem…

http://www.therightscoop.com/open-thread-ted-nugent-smacks-down-piers-morgan-on-gun-control/#disqus_thread

katy on December 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Yes that Nugent smackdown was awesome

I’ve thought Nugent was too much of a distraction over the years to our cause, but he was likeable and articulate and passionate in this segment– this is exactly the tone we needed right now with all the media histrionics

Spokesmen like this are exactly what we need more of– a happy, gregarious warrior, articulating our viewpoints while remaining engaged in friendly warfare

We can’t let them caricature us as “angry old white men” any more, we need to have articulate voices like this in the forefront and chip away at the media war

Nugent was fantastic here

thurman on December 23, 2012 at 3:39 PM

The War Planner on December 23, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Last bastion of holier-than-thou liberals: I got my rights, man! Mine, mine, mine; gimme, gimme, gimme!

Liam on December 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM

I signed it…lol..why not?

clnurnberg on December 23, 2012 at 3:50 PM

If Piers wants us to import Brit culture on guns, why shouldn’t we also import his Brit culture on keeping foreigners out of the country? His opinions are doing nothing but fomenting trouble and disturbing the peace within a large segment of the population and it might lead to violence.

We need to weigh the importance of the liberty of a foreigner against the safety and tranquility of American citizens. He can still insult us from over there, nightly, so it’s no big deal anyway. As the global thinking citizen he most surely is, this request is really no different than asking him to change where he lives from 5th Avenue and Broad, to Saxbury and Trafalgar, or something.

Dusty on December 23, 2012 at 3:57 PM

B9 and I exchanged passwords.

So now I am she as she is me and we are all together.
See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly.
I’m crying.

SparkPlug on December 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Does Morgan not understand that his “rights” while here in America are based on us using our guns to defeat King George and his army who were hell bent on making sure we remained under the yoke of the King’s Law?

coldwarrior on December 23, 2012 at 4:05 PM

I’m crying.

SparkPlug on December 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM

….see what all the threads with Bonehead being the topic…do to people!…we are starting to weep on every thread!

KOOLAID2 on December 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM

SparkPlug on December 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Well, koo koo ka chew, yerself. :-)

coldwarrior on December 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM

SparkPlug on December 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM

The two of y’all are to too weird.

cozmo on December 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM

[katy on December 23, 2012 at 1:25 PM]

Well it took a minute or two to find what you wanted me to watch. I had to read the NSFW joke you had linked to first.

Thanks for both.

Dusty on December 23, 2012 at 4:11 PM

We can’t deport all these morons…they provide endless entertainment for the rest of us.

JetBoy on December 23, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Deport this limey twit!

Kini on December 23, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Kini on December 23, 2012 at 4:22 PM

And where have you been? :-)

coldwarrior on December 23, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Being Cajun, I have no love lost for the British, or its Royalty.

Some one needs to tell that pompous arrogant ass what time it is.

The Kings english is not spoken here.

RAGIN CAJUN on December 23, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Ok,so he has said and recognised the right to bear arms.He is asking about the weapons,ammo,license…
This all being discussed across the U.S so he is just reporting what Americans are saying.

You must feel very weak in your defence of your second amendment right
that Piers Morgan is threatening it in any way.

Words don’t kill. He must be pissing himself laughing at all of you.

P.S
Yes ,when somebody in the U.K says,’i’m going out for a fag’,don’t be alarmed it means a cigarette.
However if that Brit is George Michael i would refer you to the U.S
definition.

mags on December 23, 2012 at 5:07 PM

…, Morgan is ostensibly part of the media. …(even if we’re stretching the definition a bit here)…

No matter how far you stretch the definition, Morgan is just a ‘talk-show host’.
Unless Letterman and Leno are now considered “journalists”.

Solaratov on December 23, 2012 at 5:22 PM

You would think that a Brit would know what the 2nd amendment was about, or do they not mention the Minutemen in British history classes?

kam582 on December 23, 2012 at 1:33 PM

They try to downplay that as much as possible.

With good reason. :)

Solaratov on December 23, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Thank to HA I’m introduced to ACNNAH (Another CNN AssH—) Piers Morgan, whom I never heard of before.

MaiDee on December 23, 2012 at 5:39 PM

If not for the Brits, the USA would be speaking German. If not for the Brits, the USA would be speaking Spanish (not that there’s anything wrong with that). I have not forgotten that not even Hitler was bad enough for you to do something about.

yubley on December 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Uh-huh!

Sure, chauncey.

Solaratov on December 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM

I wouldn’t mind deporting him just because he’s an a$$hole on Twitter, to everyone, but alas, I dont see us doing away with our a$$es in this country, even the borrowed ones.

di butler on December 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM

They are now over 25,000 sigs.

Panther on December 23, 2012 at 5:49 PM

I’ve seen Piers of greater interest in the East River.

He exemplifies CNN perfectly. Still The Most Busted Name in News!

Del Dolemonte on December 23, 2012 at 5:54 PM

Has the WH responded to the Death Star petition yet? And yes it is stupid but putting silly petitions like the Death Star or deporting Piers Morgan really exposes how vapid the Obama administration is. Mockery is an effective weapon much more effective than getting angry. The meaningless petition to deport Piers Morgan has caused him to blow a gasket. If I was a conservative activist, I’d flood the site with really dumb petitions and get them to 25,000 signatures.. Perhaps one demanding unicorns would be in order. Whoever thought of the Death Star petition is a political genius… And since it was a joke, you bet it wasn’t an Obama cultist.;

Illinidiva on December 23, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Jazz seems to have an innate talent for ignoring the elephant in whatever room he’s standing in.
The (counter)point to Piers’ whinge is that it is the very 2nd Amendment right Piers is incessantly attacking which guarantees the 1st Amendment right he uses to attack it. His ‘free speech rights’ don’t come FROM the government, they exist DESPITE the government. And that totalitarian statist sack of shit is too ignorant – like so many of our own public-school-indoctrinated citizens – to realize it.
And Jazz again demonstrates he really doesn’t have a clue about the crux and depth of the entire 2nd Amendment issue. It underpins everything in this nation. It is what has – until now – kept progressive-totalitarian egoists in check. It’s why they’ve worked so hard the last 100yrs to undermine that fundamental right. They cannot quench freedom and liberty and self-determination in this nation without first disarming its citizens. And armed man is a citizen. A disarmed man is a SUBJECT. Subject to the murderous inclinations of totalitarian nations everywhere the people are disarmed. Everywhere the government has a monopoly on lethal force.

rayra on December 23, 2012 at 7:08 PM

Editor sacked over ‘hoax’ photos Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan has been sacked after the newspaper conceded photos of British soldiers abusing an Iraqi were fake.

JPeterman on December 23, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Good item. Put it on Twitter. I just did. Beat it like a drum.

petefrt on December 23, 2012 at 7:10 PM

THIS is why a core of the gun owners in this nation will NOT surrender their arms to any edict or law or societal pressure.

rayra on December 23, 2012 at 7:10 PM

I don’t like him-but our free speech laws apply to everyone

gerrym51 on December 23, 2012 at 7:11 PM

gerrym51 on December 23, 2012 at 7:11 PM

until you cannot fight for it

RAGIN CAJUN on December 23, 2012 at 7:17 PM

I don’t like him-but our free speech laws apply to everyone

gerrym51 on December 23, 2012 at 7:11 PM

Of course, but that doesn’t mean we have to agree with his views, or decline to fight them tooth and nail if need be.

petefrt on December 23, 2012 at 7:18 PM

During the American Revolution, loyalists were run out of town on a rail

It wasn’t a case of being fair or unfair. The battles of Lexington and Concord were about the British seizing arms from the colonials. Gun control nuts talk about militia, but our militias were the people who wanted to keep their own country, and their own arms

The “Concord Hymn” – Ralph Waldo Emerson

By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood,
And fired the shot heard round the world.

In the case of this squirt, Morgan, they ought to make him get better hair. I find it offensive. Perhaps with better hair, he would remember he is a guest, not a citizen.

Sometimes folk who have hangups, inadequacies etc, cover their insecurities by lashing out at innocent bystanders.

This reminds me, I need some ammo

entagor on December 23, 2012 at 7:46 PM

We’re at 27,171 signatures now.

All together, well over 100,000 to remove the tax exempt status of the westbourough baptist church and designate them a hate group.

Mazztek on December 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM

A Brit telling the U.S. not to arm itself . . . that’s so 1776.

geckomon on December 23, 2012 at 8:43 PM

i SUPPORT ANY form of “justice” or”consequences” or “bad thing” happening to ANY journalist….

….and i MEAN “any”!

williamg on December 23, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Kick the loyalist redcoat bum out….give the Queen my regards Piers.

William Eaton on December 23, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Further, citizen or not, Morgan is ostensibly part of the media. If the day has actually arrived when the United States government starts shipping journalists out of the country (even if we’re stretching the definition a bit here) then we’ve got a real problem.

the highest priority of the media is themselves… toss a few out and maybe they’ll appreciate their rights

ignatzk on December 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM

Does Morgan have a right to keep and bear arms uninfringed in this country? Some citizens rightly don’t have the right ( felons ) so it’s illogical that non citizens would have that right.

Buddahpundit on December 23, 2012 at 11:08 PM

The bigger question is why does anybody watch Piers Morgan or for that matter CNN anymore? I removed CNN, HLN and MSNBC from my direct TV system prefs ages ago.

reno on December 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

We’re at 27,171 signatures now.

All together, well over 100,000 to remove the tax exempt status of the westbourough baptist church and designate them a hate group.

Mazztek on December 23, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Wondering why we would do this. There isn’t a more despicable group of ideologues out there. But now we “vote” to designate someone a hate group?

What do we gain by doing this? What do you want to accomplish?

hawkdriver on December 24, 2012 at 1:14 AM

The bigger question is why does anybody watch Piers Morgan or for that matter CNN anymore? I removed CNN, HLN and MSNBC from my direct TV system prefs ages ago.
reno on December 23, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Haha. You sound like me. I can still watch HLN at times, though.

bluegill on December 24, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Same (and still valid) argument I threw out during the Gitmo discussions. Constitutional rights are for CITIZENS of the United States. They do not apply to anyone who just happens to be here, or in one of our protectorates.

PJ Emeritus on December 24, 2012 at 9:17 AM

How to deport Piers Morgan…

1. wrap and regift him, “reset” for Putin.
2. return to sender.

Merry Christmas Eve

maverick muse on December 24, 2012 at 9:23 AM

I don’t think it’s right to deport someone for holding an opinion. It’s not as if he were advocating violent overthrow of the government. I own guns and believe that the 2nd Amendment protects my right to own them, but my response to Morgan’s opinions is that I don’t watch his show or bother to read his squawking. ‘Tis a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing. He follows liberal opinion, but hardly leads it.

flataffect on December 26, 2012 at 1:15 AM

yubley on December 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM

Sure thing. Got two words for you: Neville and Chamberlain. Euros pee in their own punchbowl for the second time in 50 years and get WWII for it, then whine that we don’t come fast enough to rescue you.

It’s the same reaction I have when Jeremy Clarkson is always nattering on about how “we” won WWII – referring tot he Brits. You were “winning” it by successfully running away a LOT, until we and the Russians showed up.

Save it.

PJ Emeritus on December 26, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Leave “We The People” up. It is no more ineffective than Congress and lets the people vent.

georgeofthedesert on December 26, 2012 at 4:49 PM

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