How to deport Piers Morgan
posted at 12:31 pm on December 23, 2012 by Jazz Shaw
Here’s a plan which probably has roughly the same chance of succeeding as a NASA mission to land on the sun, but it’s attracting more than a little attention this holiday weekend. One of the “reasonable discussion” voices in the gun grabbing movement will be familiar to regular readers. He’s CNN’s Pier’s Morgan, who reasonably told someone who dared to suggest the Second Amendment was still important that he must be “a very stupid man.” The British, non-citizen’s repeated commentary about the need to start snatching up all of those nasty guns has now drawn some attention of an unwelcome sort, as reported by The Daily Caller.
Wall Street Journal columnist James Taranto Saturday night joined in the chorus of American voices suggesting that British-born CNN host Piers Morgan could legally be deported from this country for his televised attacks on the Second Amendment, and pointed out the legal precedent that leaves Morgan vulnerable to deportation.
Morgan began the dispute when he complained on Twitter Saturday about a petition on the White House’s “We the People” Web page that asks the government to deport him.
“British Citizen and CNN television host Piers Morgan is engaged in a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment. We demand that Mr. Morgan be deported immediately for his effort to undermine the Bill of Rights,” the drafters of the petition wrote in their introductory statement.
They’ve already gotten more than 15,000 signatures as of Sunday morning, out of the 25,000 needed to trigger a White House response. This is entirely symbolic, of course, since there is no way that the White House would suddenly deport one of their biggest cheerleaders, and even if they did it would set a horrible precedent. I do agree, however, with Taranto on the merits that Morgan’s position – as a non-citizen – is hardly assured. They had a brief exchange on Twitter covering this subject.
“Ironic U.S. gun rights campaign to deport me for ‘attacking 2nd Amendment rights’ – is my opinion not protected under 1st Amendment rights?,” Morgan tweeted.
“Your opinion is protected, your presence in the U.S. is not. See Kleindienst v. Mandel (1972),” Taranto replied to Morgan.
While this may be technically true, one of the crowning and wonderful ironies of our system is that we can criticize anything we like, including the Bill of Rights which allows us to do so. Of course, not being a citizen, one could argue that Morgan’s rights might not be quite as generous, but we traditionally allow a broad platform for anyone to participate in the free exchange of ideas. (No matter how offensive they might be.) Further, citizen or not, Morgan is ostensibly part of the media. If the day has actually arrived when the United States government starts shipping journalists out of the country (even if we’re stretching the definition a bit here) then we’ve got a real problem.
But this also brings up another question for me. We’ve been running this little “We the People” petitioning experiment for a few years now. Do we need to continue with it at this point? I mean, has there ever been a single, meaningful proposal brought up there which wasn’t already under debate and consideration by Congress which actually went anywhere? (I’m not saying there hasn’t been. I just can’t think of one, but would be happy to hear any examples.) I mean, if they could actually produce something productive, like diverting PBS spending into funding the blimp that guy is building to find Bigfoot, then I could see doing it. But thus far it really looks like little more than a diversion for bored people who want to draw some headlines.
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I don’t believe for a second that all these employees doing it didn’t have supervisors monitoring their work.
Blake on May 15, 2013 at 6:15 PM
IRS just got sued for $250 BILLION, yes, that’s with a B, for confiscating 60 MILLION medical records on 10 MILLION patients in GULAG. I guess we’ll find out the answer soon enough.
riddick on May 15, 2013 at 6:23 PM
The best way to handle this is to fire every person in the office, then announce that every person who comes clean gets their job back except for the offenders……they get a front row seat in a courtroom.
antipc on May 15, 2013 at 6:25 PM
This involves up to 500 organizations all across the nation. How is it possible that it involves two people at a Reds game?
xkaydet65 on May 15, 2013 at 6:27 PM
Let’s play pretend and say they didn’t. That is enough reason to have people fired.
CW on May 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM
TWO EMPLOYEES? And what the hell was “management” doing all this time?
FIRE EVERY DAMNED ONE OF THEM!!!
GarandFan on May 15, 2013 at 6:32 PM
…or the local greedy-union rep.
slickwillie2001 on May 15, 2013 at 6:36 PM
Let’s play along here. Fine, so two lowly employees can make hell for hundreds of groups on a whim. Got it.
Imagine what one “rogue” employee can do equally to destroy the lives and livelihoods of individuals and businesses, let alone 106 thousand possible rogue IRS employees in the mix.
Some defense IRS. Nothing but more proof even if we accept you BS here that the entire thing needs to be scrapped and a truly fair and impartial system put in its place.
Borgcube on May 15, 2013 at 6:40 PM
Ahem…”bullshit”
That is all.
a5minmajor on May 15, 2013 at 6:43 PM
NO, it was the IRS commissioner before Miller who just resigned and it was, Holly Paz, a director; John Shafer, a manager; Gary Muthert, a screener; Liz Hofacre, a case coordinator; and Joseph Herr, a manager
jake49 on May 15, 2013 at 7:13 PM
No it wasn’t. Two people couldn’t have perpetrated something on this scale. Everybody knows it came from the rotting head of the top fish Obamuh. Oh yeah, the emperor is naked, too.
stukinIL4now on May 15, 2013 at 7:25 PM
Kinda strange that they’d toss the acting commissioner under the bus for the actions of two rogue employees, dont’cha think?
RationalIcthus on May 15, 2013 at 7:50 PM
Oh 2 employees. well there ya go. case closed. gee wasnt that easy?
johnnyU on May 15, 2013 at 8:46 PM
People just don’t get it. This is coming out right before the implementation of Marxist care. This is simply to gauge reaction for the real enforcement that is about to be unleashed. Wake up.
bgibbs1000 on May 16, 2013 at 4:55 AM
It’s clear the IRS data leakers were instructed to do so by a superior or more, and those superiors were instructed by Democrat senators and congressmen, and no doubt the White House.
It was NOT any rogue op by a few Democrat true believers.
Anti-Statist on May 16, 2013 at 10:57 AM
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