Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on December 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

Mr. Obama repeatedly lost patience with the speaker as negotiations faltered. In an Oval Office meeting last week, he told Mr. Boehner that if the sides didn’t reach agreement, he would use his inaugural address and his State of the Union speech to tell the country the Republicans were at fault.

At one point, according to notes taken by a participant, Mr. Boehner told the president, “I put $800 billion [in tax revenue] on the table. What do I get for that?”

“You get nothing,” the president said. “I get that for free.”

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Had there been a vote on Republican House Speaker John Boehner’s “Plan B” to avert the so-called U.S. fiscal cliff on Thursday night, it would not have been close. He was probably 40 to 50 votes short of the number he needed to avoid a humiliating defeat at the hands of his own party, according to rough estimates from Republican members of Congress and staff members…

“Some people really really really really talked themselves into believing it was a tax increase even though Grover Norquist, of all people, said it wasn’t,” said Cole, referring to the anti-tax activist responsible for “the pledge” not to raise taxes that most Republicans sign.

“That is like me talking myself into believing something is a sin even though the Pope tells me it is not,” Cole said.

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“I think that there were members that are so gun shy about primaries that they weren’t willing to take a risk … some members told me that it was just too hard to explain how it wasn’t a tax increase,” Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.) said shortly following Thursday night’s abrupt conference meeting where Boehner told his colleagues they wouldn’t vote on the bill…

One lawmaker, who has served on the whip team for several years, told The Hill that he was “whipping people that I’ve never had to whip before.”

The lawmaker, who requested anonymity, was getting frustrated with his colleagues for regurgitating the “the same old bull—- lines … like, ‘If we don’t hold the line, or if we cave’… And I said, ‘What??? Then what?’”

He was able to turn several votes when his colleagues couldn’t answer “what then.”

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As things stand now, some worry that nothing short of a catastrophe could force a resolution.

“We have sunk to the lowest common denominator in order to get a deal — sheer panic,” said Republican strategist Ron Bonjean, a former aide to House and Senate leadership. “The reality of a stock market crash is probably the only way Washington will strike a deal. It is probably the only scenario that could likely force the speaker’s hand and allow for a deal driven by Democratic votes to pass the House.”

Which, of course, is not an ideal way to govern.

“The hard-core anti-tax conservatives in the GOP seem to believe that Barack Obama will be blamed if there is no agreement reached to avoid sequestration and the tax increases that are coming,” said Sheldon D. Pollack, a University of Delaware law and political science professor who has written a history of Republican anti-tax policy. “Calculated gamble? Or are they simply incapable of recognizing that they do not control the White House or the Senate, and hence do not have the ability to control the agenda? Sadly, I think it is the latter.”

***

Several conservative House Republican members are contemplating a plan to unseat Speaker John Boehner from his position on January 3, Breitbart News has exclusively learned. Staffers have compiled a detailed action plan that, if executed, could make this a reality…

Since there are 233 Republicans heading into the next Congress, only 17 Republicans would be needed to unseat Boehner. The House would continue having multiple elections throughout the day on January 3 until it agreed upon a new Speaker…

If Boehner loses on that first election try, he’ll be battered. For now, this is a leaderless movement – an “Anybody but Boehner” charge. But after that first secret ballot election wouldn’t have earned him his speakership back, those planning this ouster expect viable alternatives to emerge at that point.

One of those alternatives, they think, will unite the party and take the speakership.

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“This was not a vote of no confidence in the Speaker,” freshman Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-S.C.), an opponent of Boehner’s Plan B legislation, said in an interview. “This was a legislative defeat, not a personal defeat.”

Another vocal critic of the Speaker’s proposal, Rep. John Fleming (R-La.), said: “He is my Speaker, and I support him.”…

When asked if Boehner’s Speakership was in trouble, freshman Rep. Austin Scott (R-Ga.) — a conservative in the majority-making class of 2010 — gave a resounding “Hell, no!” to The Hill on Friday morning…

One conservative House Republican, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the only way Boehner’s position is likely to be in serious jeopardy is if he agrees to raise the debt ceiling in a fiscal-cliff deal with Obama without significant concessions on spending cuts and entitlement reform from the president.

“If he gives away the debt ceiling, he’s in trouble,” the member said.

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Risks to Boehner’s speakership be damned, Democratic leaders are anticipating they may have to join him in large numbers to pass a bill.

“There’s no rule preventing him from allowing the entire House to work its will, Democrats and Republicans together, and that may mean that we have to pass something that does not have 50 percent of Republicans on board,” Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., the ranking Democrat on the House Budget Committee, told National Journal…

One GOP member, who spoke on the condition of anonymity so he could speak openly, predicted the country “would go through the cliff, [President Obama] will figure out what deal he can cut, it’ll go through the Senate and we’ll have to pass it out,” he said.

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Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) is resisting pressure from Republicans pushing for the Senate to take a more active role to avoid the “fiscal cliff” after House legislation stalled Thursday.

Reid has rejected Speaker John Boehner’s (R-Ohio) assertion that avoiding the fiscal cliff now depends on President Obama working out a deal with the Senate. Reid’s allies said it is unrealistic to expect him and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) to step in and hammer out an eleventh-hour agreement…

“We’re now in a bad spot,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.). “I hope we don’t go over the cliff but I think we are.”

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“The American people re-elected President Obama on Election Day. They also re-elected a Republican majority in the House,” he said, confronting rhetoric by opponents who say Boehner needs to bow to the will of the majority of American people who elected a president that campaigned on higher taxes for the wealthiest Americans.

“In doing so, they gave us all a mandate,” he continued. “It was not a mandate to raise tax rates on families and small businesses. It was a mandate for us to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country’s future.”

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merry christmas sparkplug :)

cmsinaz on December 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Gowdy seems to have his act together enough to replace Boehner as speaker.

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Sorry for the misspells. ; )

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM

cms-
all the snickerdoodles ready?

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 8:37 AM

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Hey! What about me?!?! I watched a movie and enjoyed spending a lovely evening with Mom. I thought I contributed by not fooling around with those ass hat trolls. Movie with Mom is much cooler, don’t you think?

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 8:40 AM

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 8:37 AM

absolutely…i’ll be right over :)

cmsinaz on December 23, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Hey! What about me?!?! I watched a movie and enjoyed spending a lovely evening with Mom. I thought I contributed by not fooling around with those ass hat trolls. Movie with Mom is much cooler, don’t you think?

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 8:40 AM

Mornin’ B! You? It goes without being said..
my main man. You did good,not wasting time on them.
:) I just did a scan..was so weird I kept reading.
Blog rubber necking. ;)
Absolutely! Mom and a movie is precious time
well spent! I love many old movies..Dean was good.
I like him in Giant.
So HAPPY your with your mom and enjoying your time
together. The best gift you could have. No?

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Jesus is Lord.

davidk on December 23, 2012 at 8:54 AM

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 8:53 AM

The finest gift of all. I am watching her like a hawk as she goes about her daily activities. She is doing okay I guess. Scares the heII out of me. Not much in this world does. Lol! She makes me laugh. ; )

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM

“Be angry and do not sin. Do not let the sun set on your anger.” Ephesians 4:26.

Has the events of the past week angered you? Then before the sun sets, do something about it.

It does not mean, as most believe, not to go to bed angry. It means do something about it.

That presupposes that your anger is righteous anger, not unjustified selfishness.

Are you angered by the left? Do something about it before the sun sets–today, tomorrow, the next day, …, n; where n = “the day the left is vanquished.”

davidk on December 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM

My take. With apologies to clement Clark Moore…

kingsjester on December 23, 2012 at 9:05 AM

“Today America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”
Henry Kissinger

“We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and their great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”
David Rockefeller

“In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single global authority and realize national sovereignty wasn’t such a great deal after all.”
Strobe Talbot

“We need a global New Deal — a grand bargain between the countries and continents of this world.”
Gordon Brown

“It seems to many of us that if we are to avoid the eventual catastrophic world conflict we must strengthen the United Nations as a first step toward a world government patterned after our own government with a legislature, executive and judiciary, and police to enforce its international laws and keep the peace. To do that, of course, we Americans will have to yield up some of our sovereignty. That would be a bitter pill. It would take a lot of courage, a lot of faith in the new order. Pat Robertson has written in a book a few years ago that we should have a world government, but only when the Messiah arrives. He wrote, literally, any attempt to achieve world order before that time must be the work of the devil. Well, join me. I’m glad to sit here at the right hand of Satan.”
Walter Cronkite

“This is global governance in the making. But we must agree, and agree to a binding commitment.”
George Papandreou, former Prime Minister of Greece

“For the first time, humanity is instituting a genuine instrument of global governance. From the very earliest age, we should make environmental awareness a major theme of education and a major theme of political debate, until respect for the environment comes to be as fundamental as safeguarding our rights and freedoms. By acting together, by building this unprecedented instrument, the first component of an authentic global governance, we are working for dialogue and peace.”
Jacques Chirac

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
David Rockefeller, from his own book, Memoirs.

Bankers declare U.S. and Europe Conquered

Dante on December 23, 2012 at 9:09 AM

kingsjester on December 23, 2012 at 9:05 AM

most excellent KJ

Folks you HAVE to read his post

cmsinaz on December 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM

My take. With apologies to clement Clark Moore…

kingsjester on December 23, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Very clever, KJ. Nicely done!

Naturally Curly on December 23, 2012 at 9:11 AM

From cms’s linked Politico article:

The roots of his new toughness are rooted in the nature of his convincing November win over Mitt Romney.

The roots of obama’s rage? I think that one has been taken already. Obama is still the same anti-colonialist, hater of America and American history and malevolent Marxist redistributionist, but I guess Romney represented the perfect foil to Obama political philosophy. In his mind, when he beat Romney, he beat capitalism and the American spirit of the past, and now the tables have turned. Revenge is the new compromise.

Please, Sir, I want some more…?

“You get nothing.”

Oh, mornin’ all.

Fallon on December 23, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Fallon on December 23, 2012 at 9:12 AM

morning fallon…spot on friend

cmsinaz on December 23, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Thanks, y’all!
Merry Christmas!!!

kingsjester on December 23, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Fallon on December 23, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Right on.

It’s like Lenin and the Bolsheviks, redux.

kingsjester on December 23, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 9:02 AM

:)
XO
I’ll be thinking of you.
K’s Fam coming into town today to help the moving activities.
I’m off-the packing and related items is never ending.
Kiss*
See you in the new year.

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 9:19 AM

“Lenin is said to have declared that the best way to destroy the Capitalist System was to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, government can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. By this method they not only confiscate, but they confiscate arbitrarily; and while the process impoverishes many, it actually enriches some. – As the inflation proceeds and the real value of the currency fluctuates wildly from month to month, all permanent relations between debtors and creditors, which form the ultimate foundation of capitalism, become so utterly disordered as to be almost meaningless; and the process of wealth-getting degenerates into a gamble and a lottery.

Lenin was certainly right. There is no subtler, no surer means of overturning the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. The process engages all the hidden forces of economic law on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner which not one man in a million is able to diagnose.”

John Keynes

Dante on December 23, 2012 at 9:25 AM

bazil9 on December 23, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Happy packing! XO

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Jesus is Lord.

davidk on December 23, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Yes He is!

“And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.

2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)

3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.

8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.” Luke 2:1-20

JellyToast on December 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM

JellyToast on December 23, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Amen.

kingsjester on December 23, 2012 at 9:35 AM

The roots of his new toughness are rooted in the nature of his convincing November win over Mitt Romney.

Fallon on December 23, 2012 at 9:12 AM

I’m not convinced.

davidk on December 23, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Sorry for the misspells. ; )

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 8:35 AM

No you’re not.

cozmo on December 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM

cozmo on December 23, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Sometimes I am.

Bmore on December 23, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Heh

Let’s just see how “free”it is and how much he ‘get’s that.”

When the numbers don’t add up, and he’s going after the unionistas, let’s just see how “free” it is to him and his.

When China (and others) demand payment, not to mention any borrowing leverage with other nations, let’s just see how “free” he is.

Time to ‘let ‘er burn,’ as they (who mattered) said. I’m with ‘em.

jersey taxpayer on December 23, 2012 at 7:34 PM

G’night, and a very Merry Christmas to all of you.

jersey taxpayer on December 23, 2012 at 7:37 PM

We are stuck with Obama for four more years. Accept it and do something about it. Unless the Republicans chose to nominate candidates that can be elected (i.e. have a brain and can keep their brain and mouth fuctioning on the same level) the Democrats will control the Senate. That means the most corrupt individual to ever hold the office of Majority Leader, Harry Reid, will control that body. Accept it and deal with it.

The way to deal with it is to replace Boehner with someone who has a little backbone and will not cave to the President or the press. Time for Boehner to go. That simple.

georgeofthedesert on December 25, 2012 at 12:30 PM

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