LaTourette: Blame Tea Party “chuckleheads,” not Boehner’s leadership

posted at 4:16 pm on December 21, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Let the recriminations begin!  Now that the House Republican caucus has fallen apart, at least momentarily, we can expect a lot of finger-pointing and blame-throwing from all sides — and in fact, it started almost immediately last night.  Fox and Friends plays this reaction from Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-OH), who says not to blame John Boehner for last night’s failure of his Plan B strategy.  Instead, LaTourette blames the Tea Party “chuckleheads” who have “screwed this place up.”

Republican Rep. Steven LaTourette said that Boehner is not to blame for the stalemate, the Tea Party is.

“I don’t know what the number is but say the number is 40 out of 240 – that’s not a repudiation of his leadership. That’s the same 40, 50 chuckleheads that all year … have screwed this place up. And he has done everything in his power to make nice to them, to bring them along, to make them feel included, but it hasn’t mattered,” he said.

I’m not sure that kicking a few of them out of their committee assignments in the last week or so made them feel particularly included.  Here’s a question for LaTourette: why do that before walking out on a limb with this Plan B strategy, since it would obviously alienate them and their allies just before a leadership-affirming vote like this?  That goes directly to strategy and leadership.  If Boehner and his team wanted to punish a few people for disunity, perhaps it should have waited until after the fiscal-cliff negotiations ended, no?

That’s not to say that LaTourette doesn’t have a genuine beef, either.  Steve Doocy defends the Tea Party opposition to Plan B as a response to Boehner abandoning the key principle of not raising taxes. Unfortunately, that doesn’t make much sense as a defense.   At some point, we either cut a deal before the fiscal cliff raises everyone’s taxes, or go off the fiscal cliff and raise everyone’s taxes, or cut the deal after raising everyone’s taxes temporarily.  To the extent that the Tea Party caucus had an impact yesterday, it was a push toward those latter two outcomes.  And if either of the latter two outcomes happen, then Barack Obama will be able to claim credit for a massive middle-class tax cut after the fact, and the media will be more than happy to help build that narrative.

Republicans lost the presidential race and lost ground in the Senate, which means that they’re not going to be able to force a deal that doesn’t include some kind of tax hikes now.   Even the “revenue” that Boehner put on the table in his previous offers means tax increases — just not rate increases, a point on which Obama ran and won his second term as President.  That is what is meant by “elections have consequences.”  Apparently, the implications of the loss in November still haven’t sunk in with some in the House GOP.

Still, the “chuckleheads” to whom LaTourette refers got elected to their offices the same way Boehner and LaTourette did, and have as much claim to a mandate within their own districts. It’s the job of effective leadership to craft strategies that include enough of the caucus to bring them along — and to time punishment so that it doesn’t damage the key strategies in high-stakes negotiations.  There seems to be plenty of blame to go around today in the House Republican caucus, and name-calling won’t help resolve the situation.


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Get bent loser.

SirGawain on December 21, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Well there’s another worthless ‘moderate’ sumbitch.

rayra on December 21, 2012 at 4:17 PM

well there’s another worthless moderate.

rayra on December 21, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Guess we’ll see who the chucklehead is in 2014.

CurtZHP on December 21, 2012 at 4:18 PM

How quickly they forget who gave them the House back.

NeoKong on December 21, 2012 at 4:19 PM

LET THE PURGING BEGIN!!!!!

Reveal yourselves traitors (Democrat big gov loving accomplices) so that we know who you are.

Another one shows his true colors.

PappyD61 on December 21, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Steven LaTourette’s Syndrome: Publicly criticizing your base to please a reporter.

Rocks on December 21, 2012 at 4:21 PM

In 2011 LaTourette received a rating of 52.17 from the American Conservative Union. Gee, I wonder why he hates the Tea Party so much.

steebo77 on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Are conservatives the only ones with the vision to see what’s going to happen with our $16 trillion and growing national debt? Sow the wind, and reap the whirlwind. Sigh.

Paul-Cincy on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

every repub should start every conversation with the mantra that the dem senate has not discussed a budget in over three years

and mention the fact Obama has participated in arming Libyans, Syrians and cartels while working to disarm us

declare how much money has been cut from school safety programs under Obama’s watch

and quit cowtowing to the media

DanMan on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

This is all Christine O’Donnell’s fault.

portlandon on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

“Screwed this place up”……..kept us from folding to the evil Progressive filth that want to destroy individual liberty

I want to know why these 40 or 50 don’t find a microphone?

.

PappyD61 on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Thank goodness this guy’s leaving.

topdawg on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Hey, Steven LaTourette looks a lot like Tourette’s Guy-

Wait a minute… LaTourette… Tourette…

Could they really be one and the same?!

BigGator5 on December 21, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Thank God for TeaParty Chuckleheads.

My collie says:

The remaining politicians that call themselves Republicans need to stop kidding themselves and register as Demonrats.

CyberCipher on December 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM

That’s the same 40, 50 chuckleheads that all year … have screwed this place up.

– Dipsh!t Supreme LaTourette

Really, azzwipe? How did we end up with this asinine Sequester, anyway? Who negotiated that killer deal? What was the great Sequester supposed to be taken for? “Debt limit raise” sound familiar? Some idiot thought that this great Sequester was decent giveback by Barky and the Dems (LOL) in order to raise the debt limit earlier in the year. This Sequester – that you and everyone else is running away from as fast as they can – was supposed to be what the great negotiator Boner got in return for allowing Barky and the Dems to continue on with their insane, un-Constitutional, un-American spending … you know, the spending that includes that insane Porkulus in the baseline.

Get a brain, LaTourette. Maybe that’s asking too much. Get a brain stem.

Friggin idiot.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Regardless of whether he’s a good guy or a bad guy, you have to admit the use of the word “chuckleheads” is pretty funny.

KS Rex on December 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM

This is all Christine O’Donnell’s fault.

portlandon on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

And why do we burn witches?…

CyberCipher on December 21, 2012 at 4:25 PM

And he has done everything in his power to make nice to them, to bring them along, to make them feel included, but it hasn’t mattered,” he said.

In other words, we’ve done everything to corrupt these guy but they just weren’t buying.

WisRich on December 21, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Except he actually said “F**k you da*n sh*t tea partiers! F**k sh*t!”

Bishop on December 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

So, the TEA party reps are screwing up the place? Good, because that’s what we sent them up there to do.

Odysseus on December 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

LaTourette is just another “Deal Guy” who has no idea where he’s headed in the long run. He’s a professional fixer who takes great pride in crafting the cleverest solution to whatever problem the Democrats throw on his plate.
The problem with so-called “moderates” like him is that if you string all of his “solutions” together over time, they amount to nothing more than the Road to Serfdom!

Lew on December 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM

I want Conservative Leadership. I want somebody to stand up on their hind legs and tell Obama the way the cow ate the cabbage. I want someone to actually give a hoot ‘n holler about the average American, not the special interest groups, not the lobbyists, not “the smartest people in the room”…me.

I want an American President and competent American Congress people.

I want a dadblamed budget, first. I want them to be good stewards of MY money. Not their “revenue”. I want someone to stand up and be a MAN…or a WOMAN.

I am so dadgum tired of mealy-mouth squishes and political niceties and expediences, I could spit. Too many Americans are out of work and doing without this Christmas, while the three ring circus performs unabated under the Big Top on Capital Hill.

The American people are tired of cleaning up after the donkeys and the elephants.

/rant off

kingsjester on December 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Except he actually said “F**k you da*n sh*t tea partiers! F**k sh*t!”

Bishop on December 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

My collie says:

See…I toldya’ he’s a Democrat.

CyberCipher on December 21, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Instead, LaTourette blames the Tea Party “chuckleheads” who have “screwed this place up.”

um…stevie…..

Those “chuckleheads” are doing EXACTLY what the People who ELECTED them put them there to do.

I’d contend that “Establishment Douchebags” like yourself have “screwed the place up”.

But hey…we’re all entitled to our opinions (today anyway).

Tim_CA on December 21, 2012 at 4:28 PM

I blame Main Street Partnership-type Republicans more than anything.

steebo77 on December 21, 2012 at 4:29 PM

At some point, we either cut a deal before the fiscal cliff raises everyone’s taxes, or go off the fiscal cliff and raise everyone’s taxes, or cut the deal after raising everyone’s taxes temporarily. To the extent that the Tea Party caucus had an impact yesterday, it was a push toward those latter two outcomes. And if either of the latter two outcomes happen, then Barack Obama will be able to claim credit for a massive middle-class tax cut after the fact, and the media will be more than happy to help build that narrative.

Sorry, Ed, YOUR analysis is faulty.

The first scenario, Boehner’s Plan B, would have demanded that the GOP cave on it’s promise NOT to raise anyone’s taxes… yes, even the reviled “millionaires”, who incidentally create jobs and pay the most taxes for the moochers’ benefit.

The last two scenarios totally depend on Obama. If he so wishes to take us all over the cliff, and trust me he certainly does, there is absolutely NOTHING we can do. Yep, not even a Plan B.

And so over the cliff we GO.

If Obama later tries to negotiate a tax cut, and correct me if I am wrong… doesn’t that have to originate in the House? We match him and go lower. If he asks for a rate of X, we give him X – 10.

Let the games begin and quit worrying about who takes the credit for what.

The GOP will ALWAYS be known as the party of lower taxes provided we do NOT cave on our principles by voting for senseless plans like Boehner’s Plan B.

TheRightMan on December 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM

I know if my congressman goes along with Boehner, he’s toast. I understand the need for party discipline, but it doesn’t trump representing the people in your district.

cartooner on December 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM

So what spending cuts has he proposed…?

Seven Percent Solution on December 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Looks like the MSM just found their new favorite Republican.

heretic on December 21, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Gee Mr. Douchette…we got rid of Nancy Pelosi for ya, huh? We were just great then, weren’t we? Maybe you would prefer her to have the gavel again. Wouldn’t surprise me.

NJ Red on December 21, 2012 at 4:32 PM

50 chuckleheads that all year … have screwed this place up. And he has done everything in his power to make nice to them, to bring them along, to make them feel included, but it hasn’t mattered,” he said.

Translation:They stood up for those unwashed villagers for voted them in. Merry Christmas!

ninjacoastie on December 21, 2012 at 4:32 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Exactly! This is what every conservative in Congress and in the media should be trumpeting.

The so-called “fiscal cliff” was the result of one of Boehner/RINOS negotiated compromises… and of course conservatives got the shaft as always.

&$#@#…

TheRightMan on December 21, 2012 at 4:33 PM

It looks to me that this a north/northeast phenom versus a South/Southwest phenom. The former has crapped on the latter for the last 50 years. There is little difference between the repubs and dems in the north/northeast, and they tend towards big government and socialism. Notice this ditz and Boehner are both from Oiho. These professional politicians could not even deliver their own state to the repubs. I’m not a repub, but I never will be if these national republican leaders don’t start representing some of my values. I think, with the actions of the current dhims, that we just don’t need to get along anymore. The dhims will NEVER try to get along with the repubs. Their idea of bipartisan or compromise is total, unconditional surrender to them. Get rid of Boehner, he is almost as bad as pelosi but without the body parts and the killer instinct.

Old Country Boy on December 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Oh Dear. If the Tea Party is blamed the MSM may begin to run negative stories about them and low information voters may begin to dislike them!

*clutches pearls*

Kataklysmic on December 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Listen to the Tea Partiers or perish.

Simple enough.

Now do it, you “chuckleheads.”

RedNewEnglander on December 21, 2012 at 4:35 PM

To Hades with all the squishes of the land, of the world.

Schadenfreude on December 21, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Boehner has lost the confidence of conservatives for a damn good reason, he is weak and has lost trying to negotiate with Barry directly. Though plan b was all one could hope for given boehners past failures, especially in creating the fiscal cliff in the first place. He is not a wartime consiglierre

phreshone on December 21, 2012 at 4:37 PM

LaTourette: Blame Tea Party “chuckleheads,” not Boehner’s “leadership”

Fixed.

Chuck Schick on December 21, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Conservative means huge debts on children i guess. Pass one year tax hike on millionaires to pay for Sandy aid.
Tea Party has no cred until they pass bills to kill all welfare.

Mormontheman on December 21, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Republicans and democrats alike have spent us into trillions of dollars in debt that will ultimately bankrupt this nation and Representative Tourette’s Syndrome has the audacity to blame the Tea Party?Targeted La Tourette,with a big bullseye on your political back!

redware on December 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM

No latourette, the whole flippen blame is with bho and the d’s! dingy ding dong harry hasn’t/won’t bring a budget to be voted on for four years! bho won’t sign a bill that doesn’t have every little thing he wants to completely crater our Republic! And even if everything bho wanted in the bill, HE STILL would not sign it, he wants to totally make the r’s resonsible for everything and bhopress will be happy to see this gets done!

So how about you latourette and every rino shut your face? We get enough krap out of bho mouth daily, we don’t need any from YOU!
L

letget on December 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM

This is all Christine O’Donnell Sarah Palin’s fault.

portlandon on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Fixed.

Odysseus on December 21, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Obama making annoucement at 5pm. Want’s scaled back package extension. Keep the rates the same at $250k and under.

Boehner simply doesn’t have the votes to do it even if he wanted to.

Haven’t we’ve seen this movie before?

WisRich on December 21, 2012 at 4:43 PM

I hope more “chuckleheads” come in and create more havoc in DC. That was the whole point of 2010 you GOP sh*tkickers!
Burn the system faster please…need more napalm!

FireFly on December 21, 2012 at 4:43 PM

How hard is it to say okay, Obama’s not negotiating in good faith, so let’s pass whatever a majority of the caucus wants to pass?

alwaysfiredup on December 21, 2012 at 4:43 PM

So, the TEA party reps are screwing up the place? Good, because that’s what we sent them up there to do.

Odysseus on December 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

yep, that’s the way I see it too. How many terms does this rockstar have in?

DanMan on December 21, 2012 at 4:44 PM

The fiscal cliff is no longer an option. It is now mandatory.

My collie says:

It is time to “get on” with the business of the global depression that our government has foisted upon us. We cannot start any meaningful or authentic efforts at recovery until the inevitable collapse arrives.

CyberCipher on December 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Obama making annoucement at 5pm. Want’s scaled back package extension. Keep the rates the same at $250k and under.

WisRich on December 21, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Harry Reid doesn’t have the votes in the senate to raise taxes on those making over $250k.

DanMan on December 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Retaliation thread by Athiestpundit in 3…2…1…

Eph on December 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Not only are the “true conservatives” handing the Democrats a huge victory here, they are probably going to win the House for the Democrats in 2014. The DNC should send huge checks to the various Tea Party groups, they are the best ally the Democrats have. Five Senate seats and counting.

crosspatch on December 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM

I Jazz-fruit and Doug Matagayness blame the Tea Party too.

Eph on December 21, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Until these people learn that attacking the Republicans only elects Democrats, this is not going to stop. Forget trying to create a “perfect” party. Politics is not and never has been that way. The far right is just as stupid as the far left.

crosspatch on December 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM

“Not only are the “true conservatives” handing the Democrats a huge victory here, they are probably going to win the House for the Democrats in 2014″

That was going to happen regardless. Whether you like it or not we are now officially a three party political system. Most welcomed I might add.

Eph on December 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM

“The far right is just as stupid as the far left.”

This guy don’t sound like he’s “far right” to me – as he is the one attacking

Eph on December 21, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Not only are the “true conservatives” handing the Democrats a huge victory here, they are probably going to win the House for the Democrats in 2014. The DNC should send huge checks to the various Tea Party groups, they are the best ally the Democrats have. Five Senate seats and counting.

crosspatch on December 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM

What makes you think there is going to BE an American republic in 2014?

CyberCipher on December 21, 2012 at 4:51 PM

“What makes you think there is going to BE an American republic in 2014?”

+1

The GOP is DOA regardless of what happen. Thanks Mitt

Eph on December 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM

I’m not in the Tea Party, however I am a chucklehead. Is this my fault?

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Obama making annoucement at 5pm. Want’s scaled back package extension. Keep the rates the same at $250k and under.

WisRich on December 21, 2012 at 4:43 PM

Harry Reid doesn’t have the votes in the senate to raise taxes on those making over $250k.

DanMan on December 21, 2012 at 4:47 PM

So why is no one talking about that?

JPeterman on December 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM

crosspatch on December 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Comments like yours make me laugh.

So conservatives/Tea Party will lose the House for the GOP in 2014, right? I fail to see where you give them credit for winning the House for the GOP in 2010… no thanks to your likes.

TheRightMan on December 21, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Oh, this is just the beginning of the name calling.

lea on December 21, 2012 at 4:54 PM

Sounds like LaTourette gotssss the athiest feeeevaaaah !!!

hahahahahaha

Eph on December 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

LIBERAL?MODERATE Republicans lost the presidential race and lost ground in the Senate, which means that… They should not be able to set the agenda for the GOP…….. That is what is meant by “elections have consequences.” …… Apparently, the implications of the loss in November still haven’t sunk in with some in the Moderate/liberal wing of the House GOP.

the moderates like crying John and Mitch McConell LOST they freaking LOST. We ran their campaign, we picked their nominee, We ran on their agenda and thier platform and they FREAKING LOST.

Elections have consequences. Means that AMerica has now rejected Bushism liberal moderate policy in 3 elections 2006, 2008 and 2012. America embraced reaganism in 2010 and gave the GOP a landslide win. Therefore if elections have consequences then the moderate/liberal wing of the GOp should be in the back seat and pass the levers of power over to the Reaganites within the party. The crying John’s LOST conservatives didn’t lose. it wans’t even on the ballot.

You moderate/liberal GOP can’t get it in your head YOU LOST TO THE WORSE POTUS IN MODERN TIMES. YOU SUCk. Your agenda sucks, the AMerican people have REJECTED your “vision”, your “platform” and your “agenda. You all freaking LOST Conservatives and its policies are the only platform that has had any success at the polls in a decade. Give up the power to conservatives get in the back of the car and sit down and shut up. Don’t like it? become a freaking democrat. You are almost there already.

unseen on December 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

can we punk some Paultards and go cannibal on the FiCons now?

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM

I’m pro-Hobbit and now, apparently, pro-chucklehead… and I vote.

Fallon on December 21, 2012 at 4:56 PM

When Boehner finished, he received an obligatory standing ovation—tepid, perhaps, but still embarrassing to me. I remained seated on my hands until the moment everyone sat, at which point I stood and blurted out that it was inappropriate for him to be electioneering in front of people who can’t vote for him anyway instead of rousing a dispirited minority by telling us what he and his Republican colleagues were planning on our behalf.

He bristled at the impertinence. And defensively dismissed the comment in as few words as possible.

But he wasn’t off the hook. Someone else then stood and challenged him on a matter of policy. Then someone else on another issue. On it went for a thrilling half hour, at the end of which Boehner was sweating so heavily that his spray-on orange tan looked like smeared makeup (though that could have been my imagination).

On the way out I commented to Someone Famous (who would appreciate not being outed here) that if Boehner is the best we have, we’re totally f—ed.

I’m sorry to say, those were prophetic words.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/the-boehner-of-our-existence/#more

davidk on December 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM

“I’m pro-chucklehead… and I vote”

I can see the bumper stickers now!

Eph on December 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM

how can anyone be pro hobbit? That was the worst book ever written.

Oh! Cause what McCain said about hobbits. gotcha ;)

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Are conservatives the only ones with the vision to see what’s going to happen with our $16 trillion and growing national debt?

Paul-Cincy on December 21, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Yes.

kim roy on December 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

I would have thought the Republicans would have been better off at least sending a bill to the President/Senate that was going to get rejected than not doing anything at all. At this point the Republicans take all the blame for going over the fiscal cliff. From my perspective, that’s a pretty stupid move on the Republican’s part.

GCM on December 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

unseen on December 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Tell the truth and shame the devil.

davidk on December 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM

At this point the Republicans take all the blame for going over the fiscal cliff. From my perspective, that’s a pretty stupid move on the Republican’s part.

GCM on December 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

yes, but at what point were they not gonna take the blame? And since when were Republicans not stupid?

I reject your entire comment good sir!

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 5:00 PM

crosspatch on December 21, 2012 at 4:48 PM

hey idiot without the tea party Pelosi would still be speaker. You moderates didn’t earn the house/ didn’t win the house and do not deserve to have the powerful positions within the house. The TEa party gave you moderates the house in 2010 and we damn sure can take it away from you in 2014 . Deal with it. Compromise and give power to conservatives or get use to be ing the minority party for the next 50 years.

unseen on December 21, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Boehner’s Plan B was a setup and probably pre-arranged with Obama. It was a test vote to see whether Republicans could be suckered to go along with tax increases.

Now assume it had passed. Boehner would have reached a “compromise” with Obama that would have increased rates on those making $600,000 or more. And who would have voted against that? Boehner would pass the bill with enough Democrat support.

Unfortunately for RINOs and Dems, it failed.

Now they have to either pass a tax increase on their own without any support from conservatives that will make them sitting ducks in the 2014 primaries and general… or simply go over the cliff and live with the consequences.

Let it burn, anyone?

Ha ha ha ha…

TheRightMan on December 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Screw you, buddy. You’re a clueless twit.

Midas on December 21, 2012 at 5:03 PM

yes, but at what point were they not gonna take the blame? And since when were Republicans not stupid?

I reject your entire comment good sir!

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 5:00 PM

hmmm just a shot in the dark here but….how about before Crying John made the deal for the debt limit increase, how about instead of taking the debt limit increase and spending off the table for the election Mitt and compnay ran on it. Let the people decide if they wanted the debt limit raised at the ballot box. Maybe Mitt could have run on tax cuts or tax hikes. Tax and spend or less taxes less spending. Less borrowing and spening. Just a thought. Instead of Mitt and the GOPe running a cmapign on who can tax us and spend our money better they should have r un a different campaign and gave AMerica the choice to make a decision.

unseen on December 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Boy I’m sure glad someone finally called out these teaparty chuckleheads with the belief in “freedom” and “liberty” and the “constitution”!

Imaging that gall of these people advocating that we should all be responsible for ourselves and that the government works for US and not the reverse.

I’ve heard some of these crackpots even suggest that a representative we elect should actually READ and UNDERSTAND a bill before voting on it. Ridiculous.

And, they need to rid themselves of the outdated notion that one should not spend more than one earns.

/sarc (in case you haven’t figured that out yet)

kurtzz3 on December 21, 2012 at 5:05 PM

At this point the Republicans take all the blame for going over the fiscal cliff. From my perspective, that’s a pretty stupid move on the Republican’s part.

GCM on December 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Well, that’s certainly a well-informed perspective – if you happen to watch be informed by MSNBC all of the time, believe everything Obama says, and haven’t taken a moment to observe and think for yourself.

Well done.

Midas on December 21, 2012 at 5:06 PM

On the way out I commented to Someone Famous (who would appreciate not being outed here) that if Boehner is the best we have, we’re totally f—ed.

I’m sorry to say, those were prophetic words.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/12/the-boehner-of-our-existence/#more

davidk on December 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Love the first comment:

Not famous, barely social, but I felt and feel the same way. Wrote my congresswoman that if we don’t get better than the sequester cuts out of any deal to leave the office of Speaker sit vacant rather than this stiff. (my emphasis)

Fallon on December 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM

unseen on December 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

This.

Midas on December 21, 2012 at 5:08 PM

There is plenty of blame to go around..:(

Dire Straits on December 21, 2012 at 5:08 PM

how can anyone be pro hobbit? That was the worst book ever written.

Oh! Cause what McCain said about hobbits. gotcha ;)

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

You and my eldest daughter are on the same page about The Hobbit but, yes, the McCain comment put me solidly in the shire.

Fallon on December 21, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I see where Boehner was going with the strategy..Too bad some short sighted..:(

Dire Straits on December 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Less borrowing and spening. Just a thought. Instead of Mitt and the GOPe running a cmapign on who can tax us and spend our money better they should have r un a different campaign and gave AMerica the choice to make a decision.

unseen on December 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM

I can’t argue with much of this, but Mittens did run on lower taxes. The Media shat all over his proposal based on one study by the Tax Policy Center – then continued to call Obama’s plan “balanced” and didn’t say a thing when added more revenue and less cuts.

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Tea Party Chuckleheads were disinclined to support Boehners political ploy because they rightly believed Boehner is merely the latest in a long line of Dick Darman Republicans. For years Republicans have been thought to be small government supporters, and some have been, but mostly Washington Republicans have been more than willing to trade that position anytime business interests are threatened the Defense budget comes under consideration or some local museum comes looking for federal support for a parking structure.

Suddenly, TPC’s just aren’t playing the game anymore and LaTourette (as fine an example of a Large Government Scumbag as there is walking Pennsylvania Avenue) has noticed. Sure, Boehner is having a hard time working the political levers in DC. Yes, Boehner may have fatally wounded his Speakership. Absolutely, Republicans are in a fight to stay in the House majority in 2014. But one must start the renewal process somewhere and this POS no-possibility-of-passing tax gimmick Boehner so fondly calls “Plan B” is a good place to start.

MTF on December 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM

So why is no one talking about that?

JPeterman on December 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM

spread the word and that’ll make two of us…but its true

DanMan on December 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Correct me if I am wrong; but isn’t this WHOLE Fiscal Cliff thing Bohener’s inability to make a proper deal in the first place back in the Debt Ceiling negotiations (HA!) in the first place?

And it goes back to the First CR battle in 2011 where he showed Obama he wasn’t serious to begin with.

Yes it IS Bone Head’s Leadership that’s at fault.

jaydee_007 on December 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Dear America,

Your off the cliff, have been for some time now.

Your looking at the cliff face flashing by in front of you now.

Look down, that ugly thing at the base, that is your fate.

Learn to fly once more by freedoms wings or hit bottom hard.

Onewhoknows

APACHEWHOKNOWS on December 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Mr. Obama wins again.

unclesmrgol on December 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM

I guess Ed reading the article you seem to think we have to have a deal. Listening to Rush he had the same idea as me. Ed you are wrong in my opinion to make the “deal” before the cliff the ONLY option. Even if I assume Obama gets the credit for a middle class tax cut at what POINT do we stop trying to drag down his numbers? ELECTIONS OVER ED. WE LOST. Quit trying to defeat Obama’s re-election and start biting the bullet for doing what is right for the country and leading in another direction. If you CANNOT take Obama down then quit worrying about it and keep what you have which is principles. I am not convinced that the country even understands the BUSH tax cuts expiring are for the middle class and this will bring it home.

Conan on December 21, 2012 at 5:14 PM

John “B0nerhead”! *tee hee*

sorry, I’m a chucklehead

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Until these people learn that attacking the Republicans only elects Democrats

crosspatch on December 21, 2012 at 4:50 PM

You mean like refusing to back Angle and voting for Reid? And refusing to back O’Donnell and voting for Coons? Don’t give us any of that bull about always backing the nominee when you wimps ignore your own advice.

topdawg on December 21, 2012 at 5:15 PM

jaydee_007 on December 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM

You have a point..GOP put their eggs in the 2012 POTUS election basket..And lost..:(

Dire Straits on December 21, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Chuck you, La Tourette.

Fuquay Steve on December 21, 2012 at 5:15 PM

I am not convinced that the country even understands the BUSH tax cuts expiring are for the middle class and this will bring it home.

Conan on December 21, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Good point..:)

Dire Straits on December 21, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Screw you, buddy. You’re a clueless twit.

Midas on December 21, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Mom?

Tim_CA on December 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM

but Mittens did run on lower taxes. The Media shat all over his proposal based on one study by the Tax Policy Center – then continued to call Obama’s plan “balanced” and didn’t say a thing when added more revenue and less cuts.

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM

in a way but as with all things Mitt he was easily distracted. mitt called for the reduction of corp taxes. When he was called about it he stopped talking about it. Mitt had a policy forever thing. whatever the polls told him was popular thatr day he would talk about. what the polls showed him or the media attacked he would not talk about it taht day or that week. So his campaign become pretty meaningless and lost in the shuffle of white noise by the media and the day to day “action” of the campign. I’m a pretty informed person and for the life of me I couldn’t tell what other than “he is a better manager” his entire campaign was about.

unseen on December 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Correct me if I am wrong; but isn’t this WHOLE Fiscal Cliff thing Bohener’s inability to make a proper deal in the first place back in the Debt Ceiling negotiations (HA!) in the first place?
And it goes back to the First CR battle in 2011 where he showed Obama he wasn’t serious to begin with.
Yes it IS Bone Head’s Leadership that’s at fault.
jaydee_007 on December 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Boehner kicked the can down the road in 2011 and used budget gimmicks to get an illusion of cuts. He was hoping that Obama would lose in 2012 and we could all take this problem on with Romney. That didn’t happen so now they are back into kicking the can down the road mode and I say it stops here too. You are 2 years from another election if you don’t do it now then you never will.

Conan on December 21, 2012 at 5:18 PM

You and my eldest daughter are on the same page about The Hobbit but, yes, the McCain comment put me solidly in the shire.

Fallon on December 21, 2012 at 5:09 PM

hehe. Bad book but I still read it, and it was still better than Watership Down.

Just ten to a hundred too many singing elves and such.

Slade73 on December 21, 2012 at 5:18 PM

The tea party is the only difference between the Democrat and Republican Parties. It’s only thanks to the tea party that the GOP were winners in ’10; without the tea party the GOP would’ve lost in ’10 worse than ’06 and ’08.

If the tea party isn’t welcome it is time to abandon and terminate the Republican Party, like we were doing in ’06, ’08 and ’12.

FloatingRock on December 21, 2012 at 5:18 PM

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