Uh oh: Maybe Boehner doesn’t have the votes for Plan B after all
posted at 5:11 pm on December 20, 2012 by Allahpundit
I know you guys are bored to tears with fiscal cliff stuff by now, but after weeks of wandering in the news desert, we’ll finally have some suspense tonight. Cantor was talking tough this morning about how they supposedly have the votes. According to The Hill’s whip count, though, there are already 23 Republican defections — and Boehner can only afford 24. They may be lowballing it, too. They’ve got two reps from South Carolina listed as no’s, but there may be more to come:
Mick Mulvaney is a no on Boehner bill and suggests entire SC delegation is as well #demint
— Russell Berman (@russellberman) December 20, 2012
SC has seven House seats so if Berman’s right then Boehner’s already short on votes with more defections possible before tonight’s vote. (Erick Erickson’s own whip count, taken this morning, pegged the number of GOP no votes at 34.) Some of his opponents are so entrenched, in fact, that they’ve taken to going on MSNBC in order to … convince hardcore liberals that we need to dramatically slash spending, I guess? Anyway. What’s a Speaker whose credibility is on the line to do? Just what you’d expect:
Good R source: “Right now there are btween 30-40 R no votes. But I’m told ppl being threatened with everything under the sun…” [1/2]
— Joshua Green (@JoshuaGreen) December 20, 2012
“– gavels, chairs on committees etc. By the time the arm twisting is done tonight, I think Plan B passes barely.” [2/2]
— Joshua Green (@JoshuaGreen) December 20, 2012
They’re voting on this thing tonight instead of in the afternoon to give Boehner, Cantor, and McCarthy time to twist arms and make threats. What happens if it doesn’t work, though? Will they still hold the vote and risk humiliation, on the theory that even a no vote might put some pressure on Obama to up his offer on spending cuts in order to push more conservatives into the yes column on a grander compromise with the White House? Or will they yank the bill, which would arguably be even more embarrassing?
Ramesh Ponnuru lays out the argument for voting yes, even though he’s not a fan of Plan B in all its particulars:
If it works out, it will go something like this: House Republicans pass Plan B, showing that they are not protecting millionaires, are taking steps to protect the middle class, and have moved on from the extend-all-the-rates position they took during the summer. The onus will then (again, if things work out) be on Senate Democrats to budge too, perhaps by passing a bill that extends tax cuts for everyone making less than $500,000 and limits tax increases on dividends. At that point we would see what Reid could pass, there being some dissension in his own caucus.
Then the stage would be set for a final bill that extends all the tax cuts for everyone making less than, say, $750,000 a year. Some people are asking how a deal can pass the House with a threshold below $1 million if Boehner is having so much trouble getting Republican votes for a bill with that threshold. The hope has to be that a lot of House Democrats—who have not yet had a chance to vote for a bill that extends the middle-class tax cuts—would support a deal, and therefore Boehner wouldn’t have to round up as many conservative votes for it.
Right. If Plan B fails, there are two options left: Some sort of deal with Obama in which Democratic votes replace Republican defectors, or a Republican cave on tax rates under tremendous pressure after we go over the cliff. (If you think an Obama cave is more likely, explain to me why.) But if the bill does fail, why would Obama offer Boehner new concessions and rescue him from a major political embarrassment? A talking point about “obstructionist Republicans” obstructing their own Speaker will have fallen into his lap — and he’s going to give it away by upping his offer in order to strike a deal before New Year’s? Hmmmm.
T-minus three hours and counting. Here’s Boehner at today’s presser summing up the messaging value of Plan B in two blunt sentences. “I did my part. They’ve done nothing.”
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I use several different browsers depending on which computer I’m on, and this website acts in very odd and different ways on all of them. It has some serious issues.
Curtiss on May 24, 2013 at 12:07 AM
Teach Your Children – CSN&Y
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM
Interesting that the progressive R Ed Rogers is trying to help barry get this into a special prosecutor which will take it past 2014. Ed is a good old boy who works with H. Barbour…another good old boy. These guys got so much $$$$$ wrapped up in working with barry and the Admin they have to help him.
It is a great shame that people like that wear the R label. I’ll take Andy McCarthy or Dr. Carson any day. I don’t know if i agree with everything Carson believes in…but at least he isn’t crooked. Same with McCarthy.
the good old boys of the R party don’t play a straight game…they are paid hacks.
r keller on May 24, 2013 at 12:08 AM
Anar_k_isT
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:09 AM
In Mpls the toll was 13 people killed, 145 injured. Too early for causality news, if any, on the WA bridge.
Look like kind of a rural area, if so there’s likely not as many detour options as there were with the Mpls case.
whatcat on May 24, 2013 at 12:09 AM
Turn! Turn! Turn! – The Byrds
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:10 AM
So sorry for my bad manners as of late. : ( I have just been slammed. Soon my current contractual obligations will end. I am looking forward to being around a wee bit more. I miss all my friends here. ; ) Schadenfreude, you’re killing me. Lol! ; )
Bmore on May 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:04 AM
Indeed, sadly…Carolla, on O’Reilly (just saw min. of it), paraphrased “I can buy a box of oatmeal for $18.00 and feed my darn kids b-fast. Why do they need to get fed in school? So that later they are so indoctrinated that they’ll want the gov’t to pay for their weddings”.
Evening Jackie – sad that the news don’t even cover OK’s devastation any more. All they see is “Obama declared the end of the War on Terror today”.
Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM
canopfor on May 23, 2013 at 11:25 PM
YIKES – bad memories from the bridge collapse here.
Here’s hoping everybody is okay.
gophergirl on May 23, 2013 at 11:26 PM
gophergirl:Sorry for the late response,had to make a Tea Run,
yes,this isn’t good,and it sounds like an alarm for
more impending bridge disasters with that Yahoo linky
I posted above!:)
canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM
oh, and if things are breaking bad for barry, like the WXIX thing suggests…we’ll have us a special prosecutor tomorrow. The peasants will be bbq’ing and playing the weekend…and the story will disappear.
r keller on May 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM
That’s a good thing. Start worrying when I ignore you :)
Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM
haha :)
I thought about acquiring a dog and naming it, “GIF”, pronouncing it like the peanut butter. When people ask me its name, I’ll tell them, and they’ll reply, “Oh, like the peanut butter?”, to which I’ll say, “Indirectly; I named it in honor of Steve Wilhite’s image format, who had the peanut butter in mind when he came up with its name.” Then, many of these people will say, “Oh, then you need to pronounce it with a ‘hard’ “G”!”, at which point I’ll look to my dog, who’ll give me a ‘what’s wrong with these people – do they have dog poo in their ears?’ look…
Anti-Control on May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM
Kickstart My Heart
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM
good news…i hope
r keller on May 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM
Noooorrrrmmm!!!..:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 12:13 AM
.
Looking at the live stream, this is odd …
… the bridge appears to have buckled at roughly the 1/3 point of the last span. Even an oversized load hitting the superstructure at that point should not have been enough to cause a collapse.
Bridges are designed to withstand these types of accidents. For this to happen, there had to be multiple existing problems.
(Used to be a structural engineer in an earlier life.)
PolAgnostic on May 24, 2013 at 12:14 AM
What bad manners? Your manners are impeccable.
*sip*
It’s that damned hat that’s got to go. :)
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:14 AM
and this is interesting
r keller on May 24, 2013 at 12:15 AM
American Betrayal in 6 Minutes
VorDaj on May 24, 2013 at 12:15 AM
Then again, when I feel the need to get in touch with my Darker Side – NO ONE explores that better than the generations Poet Laureate himself – Dylan…….
williamg on May 24, 2013 at 12:15 AM
Live news stream of bridge collapse story, rescue, etc:
http://www.king5.com/live-stream/pop-up-no-ads/KING-Live-Stream-205421141.html
dont taze me bro on May 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM
don’t taze me bro:)
Thanks for the linky,however this computer I’ve got,won’t play streaming or You-tube.
Can’t wait till I get a new system!
canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:17 AM
; )
Bmore on May 24, 2013 at 12:17 AM
Good evening, Schadenfreude. :) Very good to see you.
Do we expect any better from them? One day, this, too, will reach a saturation point and people will demand better from them. Small, cold, comfort for those of us who endure them today, though.
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:18 AM
Hi folks
Now The Gibson Guitar Raids Make Sense
novaculus on May 24, 2013 at 12:18 AM
SCENE III. OLIVIA’s house.
Enter SIR TOBY BELCH and SIR ANDREW
SIR TOBY BELCH
Approach, Sir Andrew. Not to be abed after
midnight is to be up betimes; and diluculo
surgere, thou know’st,–
SIR ANDREW
Nay, my troth, I know not. But I know, to be up
late is to be up late.
SIR TOBY BELCH
A false conclusion. I hate it as an unfilled can.
To be up after midnight and to go to bed then, is
early, so that to go to bed after midnight is to go
to bed betimes. Does not our life consist of the
four elements?
SIR ANDREW
Faith, so they say; but I think it rather consists
of eating and drinking.
SIR TOBY BELCH
Thou’rt a scholar; let us therefore eat and drink.
Marian, I say! a stoup of wine!
http://shakespeare.mit.edu/twelfth_night/twelfth_night.2.3.html
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:21 AM
PolAgnostic on May 24, 2013 at 12:14 AM
Interesting. Well, the cause will get sorted out eventually. But the eye witness account I was listening to sounded very credible. The truck with oversize load had a pilot car running ahead. The witness was driving between the pilot car and the truck…and actually saw the truck strike the bridge. Those three vehicles made it across the bridge before it collapsed.
dont taze me bro on May 24, 2013 at 12:22 AM
nope. empty pump shed grossing 60 maybe 65 thousand.
Fred
jrsrigmvr on May 24, 2013 at 12:22 AM
Yes. I sold off my Martin, on the secondary market, over that little episode. I’ve still got the Gibsons.
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:23 AM
canopfor on May 23, 2013 at 11:47 PM
Good evening friend..How are the grand kids??..I hope good.:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 12:00 AM
Dire Straits:
Yeppers,everything is good accept for my toasted computer from
a couple weeks ago,during a bizarre Power surge!
And,I have both grandsons,both my Sons are doing roofing,
and the wife works,so I’m on baby-sitting detail,fun,yet
nightmarish,as the youngest is a biter,so when its a toy
fight,oh boy!:)
canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:23 AM
Wow. Forgot about them.
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:23 AM
Evening all
cornbred on May 24, 2013 at 12:23 AM
Hi, words ostensibly calling themselves “cornbred.”
. . . *glances suspiciously around for beans*
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:26 AM
In addition to Gibson, the selection of the gm dealerships to close is very suspect.
tom daschle concerned on May 24, 2013 at 12:26 AM
I just pulled together the worst aspects from every dystopian society ever put to pen.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:26 AM
SIR TOBY BELCH
Thou’rt a scholar; let us therefore eat and drink.
Marian, I say! a stoup of wine!
http://shakespeare.mit.edu/twelfth_night/twelfth_night.2.3.html
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:21 AM
Axe:
Lol,you know, I bet alot of Shakespeare plays could be based in the Obama Administration!:)
canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:28 AM
…and smoked hamhocks… and pecan pie. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:28 AM
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:26 AM
What do you suppose he means by “Evening all”?¿
Sounds threatening.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:28 AM
That was good, this is better imo, and you might even agree!
Pray hard that this is not a description of RWM!
Neil Merryweather – “Kryptonite”
Anti-Control on May 24, 2013 at 12:29 AM
What’s the pie of the day at BMore’s place?¿
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:30 AM
I saw heads go up across the Glade… much like a herd of gazelles… or zebra at the water hole. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:30 AM
Easy guys… I’m not here to hurt anyone…
cornbred on May 24, 2013 at 12:30 AM
LOL! Good evening. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:31 AM
You might as well throw in that suit against Boeing to try and intimidate and strong-arm them out of opening a plant in South Carolina. The argument that an American company is not allowed to decide where it wants to do its manufacturing …
But that was so many impeachable and criminal acts ago … Back in the pre-history.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 24, 2013 at 12:31 AM
Thank goodness. I was skered for a bit by the tone of your opening remarks. But its all good new.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:31 AM
Get Together – The Youngbloods
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:32 AM
I’ll try to tone it down a bit then
cornbred on May 24, 2013 at 12:33 AM
LOL! Yes… because we’re all so very fragile, you know. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:34 AM
OMG. You just teleported an image into my bwain bu mere words.
That was very deft. You must be a writer. hehe
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:34 AM
Tin Man
Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 12:34 AM
Surely not! :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:35 AM
The lines, “the queens of Hollywood Blvd” and “golden boys that give their all, and then some more”, make me think of 0dumba and Lindsay Graham, for some reason…
Neil Merryweather – “Hollywood Blvd”
Anti-Control on May 24, 2013 at 12:36 AM
Hey who ever writes the most scathing critique of Oblabla gets a moon bean.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:36 AM
Oh, boy! A contest! I get to be a judge. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:37 AM
I hear you..They should be walking ??..:)
PS..Both of your sons are doing roofing work..That is REAL work there..I wish them both well..:)
PSS..The grandson that is a biter will quit that as soon as the other grandson bites him back..:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 12:37 AM
It’s not just the government-when anything becomes too large it either grows too corrupt, too inefficient , too arrogant or all three.A case in point is my ordeal with JP Morgan Chase on an IRA which somehow got classified as an abandoned account and the ordeal I had to get it reinstated before greedy NY State grabbed the proceeds. I signed the statement that I was the owner of the account, still alive and please don’t give proceeds to New York etc. and mailed it. Meanwhile I decided to transfer the IRA to another company by contacting Chase on the phone and after 4 or 5 calls set up a meeting and Chase gave me the check for the proceeds and I duly rolled it over with another company as an insurance company annuity.
Two months AFTER this-I got a response to my letter from Chase. ‘A signed statement without a NOTARIZATION is NOT ACCEPTABLE’ the letter informed me so ‘unless we receive your notarized signature within 30 days the proceeds of the CD will be delivered to NY State’. (It’s been over 30 days–I wonder if Chase handed over ITS OWN MONEY to NY State–LOL.)
But since the federal government is MUCH larger than any company (and has virtually no one with any business experience) it is naturally MUCH more inefficient, arrogant and corrupt that any company–PLUS it must be considered that federal bureaucracies such as OSHA, EPA, Treasury (IRS), etal owe their allegiance to the big government party (Democrats) which feather their beds–so you must add POLITICALLY BIASED to this sour cocktail.
Thus, unless government expansion can be reversed, democracy is over. It’s as simple as that.
MaiDee on May 24, 2013 at 12:38 AM
“This is a chit-chat-free, no-nonsense zone!”-bluegill, Queen of the Omniverse
Anti-Control on May 24, 2013 at 12:38 AM
Jackie is a little devilish trickster moon goddess with unbound talent for writing bound volumes that resound.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:38 AM
No Time – Guess Who
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:38 AM
Here’s Brian Eno’s soundtrack for this administration … hopefully.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 24, 2013 at 12:39 AM
So that’s it then. Kind of anticlimactic really
cornbred on May 24, 2013 at 12:41 AM
How long before our trolls return? HA just isn’t the same without them.
nobar on May 24, 2013 at 12:42 AM
And Spark is our unfettered Jester, free spirit, a cameleon, master of disguise, possessed of an enormous talent for bewildering, amazing, and mystifying.
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:42 AM
…the auto dealerships that closed…from GM and Chrysler…rest assured…not one Obama supporter…lost a franchise!
KOOLAID2 on May 24, 2013 at 12:43 AM
There’s this bit in the Bible. So the guy walks past the prophet, and the prophet cries. And the guy asks the prophet why he’s crying. The prophet tells him that he will become king, and then the prophet tells him all the horrible things he will do as king.
But the guy’s response isn’t one of denial, or to ask how that future can be avoided. He just asks, “But how is that possible?” Meaning, his mind is immediately fixed on the path from where he was standing to being king.
And then, see Hamlet’s reaction to the witches again. :)
/just-talking
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:44 AM
cream – stormy monday
Fred
jrsrigmvr on May 24, 2013 at 12:44 AM
Way back when the a-hole got elected the first time, I thought to myself, “People have no idea what is coming. It’s gonna be Chicago on the Potomac.”
The Chicago Way is characterized by its relentless and pervasive perversion of every single wheel and lever of government to corrupt political ends, if not outright theft. Now we see Obama’s administration has indeed been using federal agencies’ resources and power to reward their enemies and attack their friends. Every time we turn around, another regulatory agency has attacked his enemies, and smoothed the way for his supporters. As in the Gibson case, sometimes Obama’s enemies are also his supporters’ competition. So everybody wins!
Is it any wonder the administration of the Community-Organizer-In-Chief knew exactly how to prevent his enemies from organizing their communities? There could be no more effective weapon than the IRS to choke off their ability to raise money. Without money, they couldn’t organize effectively.
Pervasive. Corruption.
Sometimes I hate being right.
novaculus on May 24, 2013 at 12:44 AM
Courtesy of Bill Clinton:
“[0dumba's] the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.”
“A few years ago, this guy would have been getting our coffee” (or, “carrying our bags”, depending on the source.)
Anti-Control on May 24, 2013 at 12:45 AM
Ok, how d’you do the YouTube link thingy?
cornbred on May 24, 2013 at 12:46 AM
. . . “bull*******.”
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:47 AM
*tips fedora*..:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Hi RajFellow. bwaahhh.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Everyone should read the book. Unfortunately those who should won’t. They will have to be starved.
Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Las Vegas mayor, Oscar Goodman, “I gotta tell you this, everybody says I shouldn’t say it, but I gotta tell you the way it is. This president is a real slow learner.”
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 24, 2013 at 12:48 AM
Go to YouTube on another tab. Copy and paste the address from the address bar. Come back to this tab, this box. Type the name of the song, or whatever. Click that “link” button. Paste the address into the little box that pops up. Click ok. Click Submit.
“Preview” is for muffins.
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:49 AM
In Axe’s defense, he said that his comments have implied smileys.
Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 12:49 AM
Ah… Milton “Paradise Lost” and ‘… strong enough to stand yet free to fall.’
Free will. Free to choose. Possibilities.
Just mentioning.
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:50 AM
:) And it shall reappear another night! Just like Hamlet’s dad.
And up there, I meant Macbeth.
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:51 AM
It’s also helpful to delete the ‘http:/’ bit out of the little link box first before pasting in tune link.
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:52 AM
old people rock
Fred
jrsrigmvr on May 24, 2013 at 12:52 AM
and until then the IRS woman who thugged TEA Parties gets to run the Obamacare enforcement in IRS ,
and the woman who started the lies about Killery’s assasination of 4 Americans gets even more authority in the same Department of State,
and the woman who has been persecuting Christians inside and outside of the iRS gets a vacation ……yeah, we have plenty of time to ” prosecute” Hussein’s thugette pandejas :(
burrata on May 24, 2013 at 12:53 AM
1. One of the Three Monkeys of Oblivion (the other two being Holder and Hilalry), or one of the stooges
2. The “smaaahhhtest president evah, and the most transparent”
3. A charlatanic thug
You can pick just one.
Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 12:53 AM
LOL! :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Thats ok me and Scrumpy will get him good. We are dastardly hehe (:
I hope Scrumpy is OK.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:53 AM
I like #1 but MG is the judge lady goddess.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:54 AM
I’m officially entering this post in the ‘Most scathing Oblabla critique’ contest. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:56 AM
Just because it’s a great song that most people probably haven’t heard in years and forgot they wanted to:
Green Eyed Lady
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 24, 2013 at 12:56 AM
canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:28 AM
There’s this bit in the Bible. So the guy walks past the prophet, and the prophet cries. And the guy asks the prophet why he’s crying. The prophet tells him that he will become king, and then the prophet tells him all the horrible things he will do as king.
But the guy’s response isn’t one of denial, or to ask how that future can be avoided. He just asks, “But how is that possible?” Meaning, his mind is immediately fixed on the path from where he was standing to being king.
And then, see Hamlet’s reaction to the witches again. :)
/just-talking
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:44 AM
Axe:
Gotcha,will do a spin on the Infrastructure Shovel-Ready
Jobs,that didn’t happen,as Hopey tries to wipe away the nlood!
(sarc)
I’m not sure which play,but its the one that no matter how much she tries to wash away the blood,it keeps re-appearing,MacBeth i think?!:)
canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Thanks Jackie you are much too generous with your praise and quite stingy when praise is heaped upon your lovely bosom.
Sparky is bad azz Cameleon.
Axe is widdle tadpole. hehe (:
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Okay, we have Schadenfreude’s comment #1, and Nova’s comment up for consideration. :)
I move we wait for a few more entries before we vote. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:57 AM
Nice tune..:)
PS..Good evening..:)
Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 12:58 AM
Let’s play a game. We’ll call it, “I am Resist or 4Grace making an appearance.” I need to diversify — (RWM’s got her hand around my pipes like Russia’s got France’s — and it’s all cold tonight and she cut me off!)
. . . and Jackie will only put up with all the sharing crap for about five minutes. :)
. . . so anyway, who’s got blue eyes and a British accent?
Axe on May 24, 2013 at 12:58 AM
Three quatloos for the new comer.
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 12:58 AM
We all do, Spark. :)
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 12:59 AM
Did you see Jay Sekulow says he has 15 letters to Tea Party groups demanding info the IG said violated IRS regs, all signed by Lois Lerner?
Interesting in light of her denial of violating IRS regs. It’s the reason why you aren’t allowed to proclaim innocence and then assert the privilege against self-incrimination. She says she didn’t, the IG says she did. Congress has a duty to get to the bottom of it, and having raised the issue herself, she cannot now refuse to answer questions on the subject without risking contempt.
novaculus on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM
Andrew Sullivan
SparkPlug on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM
Too many fools/harlots on the dole…and too many lawyers in DC, on both sides…Shakespeare had it right.
Schadenfreude on May 24, 2013 at 1:00 AM
How many quatloos in a moon bean?
thatsafactjack on May 24, 2013 at 1:01 AM
Otay,I’m bailing out,had a stupid Non-reponsive thingy,
which means I gots to re-boot,and,…..BOINKING wait,
$#^&*()(*&^%&^*()&^%^&*(&^%$^&*()*&^%E$^&*()*&^%$^&*()
arrgh…….,
Everyone have “A” Great Night—————————:)
canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 1:02 AM
Thanks for the nom, but I need to proofread better than this
novaculus on May 24, 2013 at 1:02 AM
I would have been disappointed if that had been the edited version!
One of the best ’60s punks songs imo:
Soup Greens – “Like a Rolling Stone”
Anti-Control on May 24, 2013 at 1:02 AM
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