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	<title>Comments on: Q3 GDP final rises to 3.1%</title>
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		<title>By: Scott Sumner&#8217;s counter-factual victory &#171; J.uris D.ebtor</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6948112</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Sumner&#8217;s counter-factual victory &#171; J.uris D.ebtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 12:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] And Hotair on the Q312 numbers: [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: KOOLAID2</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6588955</link>
		<dc:creator>KOOLAID2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2012 03:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[.what&#039;s a dollar worth?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.what&#8217;s a dollar worth?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack_Burton</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587958</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack_Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like pretty much everything with Obama, it looks good on the surface, but with a tiny bit of digging its not good. Unfortunately, the uneducated voter will just see it as strong growth, and obamas approval will continue to surge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like pretty much everything with Obama, it looks good on the surface, but with a tiny bit of digging its not good. Unfortunately, the uneducated voter will just see it as strong growth, and obamas approval will continue to surge.</p>
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		<title>By: dogsoldier</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587882</link>
		<dc:creator>dogsoldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Q3 GDP is 3.1%? 

Yeah ok. THE BEA is full of sheep dip. Are they still using fake deflators?

&lt;blockquote&gt;ernesto on December 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Only one problem chump. The stat is a lie. If it was real, I&#039;d be pleased, but it &lt;em&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q3 GDP is 3.1%? </p>
<p>Yeah ok. THE BEA is full of sheep dip. Are they still using fake deflators?</p>
<blockquote><p>ernesto on December 20, 2012 at 2:55 PM</p></blockquote>
<p>Only one problem chump. The stat is a lie. If it was real, I&#8217;d be pleased, but it <em>isn&#8217;t</em> real.</p>
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		<title>By: ernesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>ernesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The world&#039;s largest economy is growing by 3%. Amidst global economic turmoil, the US is in an enviable position among developed nations. So much for Obama ruthlessly destroying the United States.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world&#8217;s largest economy is growing by 3%. Amidst global economic turmoil, the US is in an enviable position among developed nations. So much for Obama ruthlessly destroying the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: ThePrimordialOrderedPair</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587724</link>
		<dc:creator>ThePrimordialOrderedPair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Q3 GDP final rises to 3.1%&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Still over 5% short of the amount we borrowed and spent.  How can anyone call that &quot;growth&quot;??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Q3 GDP final rises to 3.1%</p></blockquote>
<p>Still over 5% short of the amount we borrowed and spent.  How can anyone call that &#8220;growth&#8221;??</p>
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		<title>By: Right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 19:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.

lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Exhibit B for the pressing need to focus on mental health.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.</p>
<p>lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Exhibit B for the pressing need to focus on mental health.</p>
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		<title>By: socalcon</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587388</link>
		<dc:creator>socalcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.

lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt;


Lester, your &#039;Favorites&#039; get hacked and changed from Huffpo?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.</p>
<p>lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM </p></blockquote>
<p>Lester, your &#8216;Favorites&#8217; get hacked and changed from Huffpo?</p>
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		<title>By: socalcon</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587385</link>
		<dc:creator>socalcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 17:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Nothing Obooba would do would help, everything he’d do would/has hurt.

Akzed on December 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt;



President Flap-Ears had nothing to do with this minor &#039;modulation&#039;.  According to headlines from Bill Clinton in September (heh, Q3!): &quot;No President Could Have &#039;Magically&#039; Fixed It In One Term&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nothing Obooba would do would help, everything he’d do would/has hurt.</p>
<p>Akzed on December 20, 2012 at 9:47 AM </p></blockquote>
<p>President Flap-Ears had nothing to do with this minor &#8216;modulation&#8217;.  According to headlines from Bill Clinton in September (heh, Q3!): &#8220;No President Could Have &#8216;Magically&#8217; Fixed It In One Term&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: besser tot als rot</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587373</link>
		<dc:creator>besser tot als rot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We should stop counting government deficit spending as part of GDP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should stop counting government deficit spending as part of GDP.</p>
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		<title>By: Gatsu</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587339</link>
		<dc:creator>Gatsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.

lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Little hard to &quot;break&quot; something that was never fixed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.</p>
<p>lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Little hard to &#8220;break&#8221; something that was never fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: NJ Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJ Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.

lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt;

WHAT THE...????]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And that’s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.</p>
<p>lester on December 20, 2012 at 11:03 AM </p></blockquote>
<p>WHAT THE&#8230;????</p>
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		<title>By: Philly</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587296</link>
		<dc:creator>Philly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[End of year budget burning for companies and govt. Holiday season spending. No shocker. Meh.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>End of year budget burning for companies and govt. Holiday season spending. No shocker. Meh.</p>
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		<title>By: lester</title>
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		<dc:creator>lester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 16:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And that&#039;s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#8217;s why GOP wants to break the economy, again.</p>
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		<title>By: jukin3</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587265</link>
		<dc:creator>jukin3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[$85 billion a month of printing greenbacks by Teh Bernake should fix everything right up to a 10%+ growth rate (non/fake inflation adjusted).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$85 billion a month of printing greenbacks by Teh Bernake should fix everything right up to a 10%+ growth rate (non/fake inflation adjusted).</p>
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		<title>By: Gatsu</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587263</link>
		<dc:creator>Gatsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;I know of one type of store which has been doing record business lately.

How great would it be that the dems would need to highlight gun sales as “proof” of a strengthening economy.

Bishop on December 20, 2012 at 9:50 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bah, they would just lie about where that sudden &quot;uplift&quot; came from.

Guns would suddenly become &quot;other retail&quot; or &quot;durable goods&quot; or &quot;icky machines&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know of one type of store which has been doing record business lately.</p>
<p>How great would it be that the dems would need to highlight gun sales as “proof” of a strengthening economy.</p>
<p>Bishop on December 20, 2012 at 9:50 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>Bah, they would just lie about where that sudden &#8220;uplift&#8221; came from.</p>
<p>Guns would suddenly become &#8220;other retail&#8221; or &#8220;durable goods&#8221; or &#8220;icky machines&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Nomad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587240</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;How great would it be that the dems would need to highlight gun sales as “proof” of a strengthening economy.

Bishop on December 20, 2012 at 9:50 AM &lt;/blockquote&gt;


You&#039;re downright evil! ;0]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How great would it be that the dems would need to highlight gun sales as “proof” of a strengthening economy.</p>
<p>Bishop on December 20, 2012 at 9:50 AM </p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re downright evil! ;0</p>
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		<title>By: Happy Nomad</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587236</link>
		<dc:creator>Happy Nomad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wait until we go over the fiscal cliff and the US gets another downgrade, a recession, and higher taxes for all.  

There is no reason to be overly joyous or optimistic this holiday season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wait until we go over the fiscal cliff and the US gets another downgrade, a recession, and higher taxes for all.  </p>
<p>There is no reason to be overly joyous or optimistic this holiday season.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert_Paulson</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587234</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert_Paulson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t forget Bernanke&#039;s QE4ever lifting housing prices]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget Bernanke&#8217;s QE4ever lifting housing prices</p>
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		<title>By: Gatsu</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587215</link>
		<dc:creator>Gatsu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Doughboy on December 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As did I, it looks like they are trying to work the &quot;scarcity&quot; angle to boost sales early and then put the rest out at normal prices and hope people just bite the bullet and buy the item at full price.
 
Think of it like a strange combo of buyers remorse and impulse buy. A &quot;I&#039;ve been kicking myself for not getting it when I saw it, but here it is so buy it now!&quot; mentality.

This will result in a large amount of unsold inventory and &quot;after Christmas/new years/whatever&quot; sales.

Then, at the end of the next quarter, you will see one major retailer go bankrupt, Sears/JCP/Dicks/someone.

Bet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Doughboy on December 20, 2012 at 10:04 AM</p></blockquote>
<p>As did I, it looks like they are trying to work the &#8220;scarcity&#8221; angle to boost sales early and then put the rest out at normal prices and hope people just bite the bullet and buy the item at full price.</p>
<p>Think of it like a strange combo of buyers remorse and impulse buy. A &#8220;I&#8217;ve been kicking myself for not getting it when I saw it, but here it is so buy it now!&#8221; mentality.</p>
<p>This will result in a large amount of unsold inventory and &#8220;after Christmas/new years/whatever&#8221; sales.</p>
<p>Then, at the end of the next quarter, you will see one major retailer go bankrupt, Sears/JCP/Dicks/someone.</p>
<p>Bet.</p>
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		<title>By: cmsinaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>cmsinaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Spin spin spin 
-lsm]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spin spin spin<br />
-lsm</p>
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		<title>By: KS Rex</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587199</link>
		<dc:creator>KS Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lib trolls: &lt;em&gt;&quot;Ed, You never gave caveats when there were good economic reports in the Boooooooooshhhh years!!!!11!&quot;&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lib trolls: <em>&#8220;Ed, You never gave caveats when there were good economic reports in the Boooooooooshhhh years!!!!11!&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: tom daschle concerned</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom daschle concerned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before long we’ll be hearing of farm yields and industrial output 300% higher per year, like the USSR circa 1950.

Bat Chain Puller on December 20, 2012 at 9:59 AM

it is here now.  it is happening now.  the media machine has allied itself with the DNC.  they are &quot;the party.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before long we’ll be hearing of farm yields and industrial output 300% higher per year, like the USSR circa 1950.</p>
<p>Bat Chain Puller on December 20, 2012 at 9:59 AM</p>
<p>it is here now.  it is happening now.  the media machine has allied itself with the DNC.  they are &#8220;the party.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Doughboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doughboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;This sounds like GM in 2005.

“Rebates and discounts are killing our sales and resale value! NO MORE DISCOUNTS!”

::sales decline drastically::

“10K OFF THE NEW MALIBU! BUY A SUBURBAN AND GET A FREE CRUZE!!!”

Gatsu on December 20, 2012 at 9:59 AM
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I noticed some really good prices at department stores and e-tailers right before and during Black Friday. Then suddenly the prices on most items got jacked back up to previous levels. Unless they were planning on doing all of their holiday sales during Thanksgiving week, that may not have been the best move.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This sounds like GM in 2005.</p>
<p>“Rebates and discounts are killing our sales and resale value! NO MORE DISCOUNTS!”</p>
<p>::sales decline drastically::</p>
<p>“10K OFF THE NEW MALIBU! BUY A SUBURBAN AND GET A FREE CRUZE!!!”</p>
<p>Gatsu on December 20, 2012 at 9:59 AM
</p></blockquote>
<p>I noticed some really good prices at department stores and e-tailers right before and during Black Friday. Then suddenly the prices on most items got jacked back up to previous levels. Unless they were planning on doing all of their holiday sales during Thanksgiving week, that may not have been the best move.</p>
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		<title>By: Bat Chain Puller</title>
		<link>http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/20/q3-gdp-final-rises-to-3-1/comment-page-1/#comment-6587185</link>
		<dc:creator>Bat Chain Puller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2012 14:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before long we&#039;ll be hearing of farm yields and industrial output 300% higher per year, like the USSR circa 1950.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before long we&#8217;ll be hearing of farm yields and industrial output 300% higher per year, like the USSR circa 1950.</p>
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