Piers Morgan to gun-rights advocate: “You’re an unbelievably stupid man, aren’t you?”
posted at 7:41 pm on December 19, 2012 by Allahpundit
Via News Busters, the media id unleashed. Your companion reading for this clip is Byron York’s piece about cable-news sanctimony over gun control this week, and not just from the prime-time commentators either. Says York:
Why such open advocacy? What seems to have happened is that some journalists have assumed that since everyone is horrified by what happened in Newtown, everyone should also be united on what should be done about it, and that what should be done is the imposition of more stringent gun control measures. Guests who disagree can be in for a very public scolding.
I think it’s less them wanting people to be united than enjoying a temporary license to yell at the sort of people they wish they could yell at every day. Under normal circumstances, you can’t be as big of a jackhole to your guests as Morgan is here; “professionalism” requires some basic measure of civility. But with the public grieving over 20 children shot dead, you’re momentarily free to be as big of a jackhole as you want in the name of “passion” and outrage over what happened. A big part of the Do Something impulse comes from the guilt and impotence people naturally feel over having failed to protect those kids. One way to temper those feelings is to endorse broad gun-control measures, no matter how many innocent gun owners would be affected by them and how few would-be rampage killers would be deterred. The angrier you are, the more aggressive the policy response that you endorse, the more you supposedly care. Another way is to scream at or, in extreme cases, even threaten gun-rights advocates. We can’t kill Adam Lanza but maybe we can at least intimidate the sort of people who’d defend his right to carry a gun. Even though no one’s defending Adam Lanza’s right to carry a gun.
Anyway, three polls for you this afternoon. The one that’s getting attention is CNN’s because it’s the one that’s most useful to the left. And yet it’s still not very useful:
The number of Americans who favor major restrictions or an outright ban has typically hovered just under the 50% mark in recent years; now that number is just over 50%. According to the poll 52% say they favor major restrictions on guns or making all guns illegal. That’s a five point rise from a CNN survey conducted in early August, following the mass shooting in July at a movie theater in suburban Denver, Colorado that left 12 dead, and shootings two weeks later at a Sikh temple in suburban Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where six people were killed. The five point rise is within the poll’s sampling error…
The survey indicates the expected partisan divide on gun control. Nearly eight in ten Democrats say they favor major restrictions on owning guns or an outright ban. That number drops to 42% among independents and 31% among Republicans. There’s also a gender gap, with 41% of men saying say support major restrictions or an outright ban, with that number jumping to 62% among women.
Four days after one of the most horrendous crimes in modern American history, involving the most sympathetic victims imaginable, gun-control advocates can muster only the slimmest majority for major regulations — within the margin of error — and nothing close to those numbers among independents and Republicans. (The most interesting number from the poll, showing 62% support for banning “semi-automatic assault guns,” is going nowhere legislatively.) And as Obama and congressional Democrats know full well, even those weak numbers will begin to fade along with the news coverage of Sandy Hook. He needs to act fast. Meanwhile, over at Gallup, the public’s priorities already lie elsewhere:

Not only does banning semiautomatics trail far behind increased spending on mental health as a solution, but the number of those who think having school officials carry would be at least “somewhat effective” is actually slightly higher than the number who say the same about a ban. (Only 36 percent of independents support the ban. As with the CNN poll, all the public-opinion heavy lifting for gun control is being done by Democrats.) Rasmussen asked a question similar to Gallup’s — which of these options would be most effective in preventing mass shootings? — and once again better mental-health treatments trumped gun control, 48/27. Makes me wonder if all the talk about gun-grabbing lately is, at least in some parts, a sly ploy to convince fiscal conservatives that spending more on mental health is the lesser of two evils vis-a-vis regulating guns. In Gallup’s poll, just 35 percent of Republicans wanted the government to spend more on treating mental illness but that was still nine points higher than those who wanted to ban semiautomatics as a solution.
Oh well. A determined agenda will not be deterred, public support or no. (See also, e.g., ObamaCare.) First up: A ban on high-capacity magazines. Will that stop the next Lanza? Nah, probably not. Oh, and in related news, there’s suddenly a run on guns at major retailers.
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The guys down at the lube rack were talking about these scandals just this morning.
docflash on May 17, 2013 at 10:39 AM
I guess it all depends on how you define “scandal.” Since incompetence, corruption and lying to cover it all up has become the standard operating procedure of this administration, then maybe Carney has a point…
rcpjr on May 17, 2013 at 10:41 AM
Carny is…Well, an a$$hole.
Not much more to be said.
Liam on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM
The opportunity to spin out total malarkey on a major league level doesn’t come along often in a sociopaths life. Doing these foul moments the justice they deserve is certainly called for,as he says.
And to Piers Morgan, no less!
MTF on May 17, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Carney: Please, GeppettObama, pull my strings! I’m not a real boy yet! And why is my nose so long? Jiminy, where are you?
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Everyone in liberaldom denies the elephant in the room until it sits on them (or something that rhymes with “sits”).
Alberta_Patriot on May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM
“There are no Americans in Baghdad!”
Akzed on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Benghazi wasn’t a terrorist attack. It was simply inappropriate behavior by some Muslims.
The Rogue Tomato on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
Our “Tourist King” President
J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 10:45 AM
“These aren’t scandals, Obama isn’t a dictator, Obamacare isn’t causing healthcare costs to rise, and I’m not a jackwagon.”
applebutter on May 17, 2013 at 10:46 AM
There’s a special place in hell reserved for you Mr. Carney.
Defenestratus on May 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM
This was last night? So after Piers gave him a tongue-bath, Crazy Larry O’Donnell blew air kisses to dry him off.
Marcus on May 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM
Scandal?
A scandal is when your wife finds you in bed with her best friend and the whole town finds out about it.
Benghazi is not a scandal. It is murder.
The IRS is not a scandal. It is clearly targeting those who wished to exercise their Rights, under law, and were following the law, and still were targeted.
DoJ tapping the phones of the AP…is not a scandal.
Solyndra is not a scandal.
None of these, and all the rest, are scandals.
They are all part and parcel to a White House which holds every American who is not a card-carrying or water-carrying Progressive in utter contempt.
The real scandal is, truly is, how many stupid or just plain avaricious Americans actually voted for this Obama guy, and the millions who will go to their graves protecting him. ‘Cuz he historic or somethin’.
coldwarrior on May 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Everyone on the left seems to have gone Baghdad Bob on this issue.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Uhhhh…Bevis tell Butthead what scandals there are.
Uhhhh….. OK!
1.Regime tapping phones of AP
2.Regime not coming to help people at Benghazi.
3.IRS screwing over applications for tax free status only for tea p Party types.
Uh… Bevis should I go on?
Nahhh….We gotta score….
rodguy911 on May 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Civil rights violations too.
forest on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
“I would say that it’s been a challenging week, but in many ways a week that I’ve enjoyed,” Carney told CNN’s Piers Morgan.”
That’s Carney-speak for, “I’m about to be fired!”
Stepan on May 17, 2013 at 10:51 AM
He’s just speaking to the Obama voting base. You’ve seen them, I’ve seen them, there’s nothing they won’t excuse.
MNHawk on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Keep in mind: Those fat cat CEOs on Wall St are responsible for every employee action in their international operations.
Even single rogue traders 3000 miles away.
Ben Hur on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Your foolish jedi mind trick won’t work on me.
reddevil on May 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Carney is an epic spokesman. No shame. No hesitation in lying, distorting, dodging and obfuscating.
He’s the prefect representative for Obama.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 10:54 AM
This guy is the clown jewel. It is really laughable to watch him.
rjoco1 on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Tell that to the families of the 4 dead Americans, Jay. I’m sure they would agree with you that it should just be dismissed with a chuckle.
KS Rex on May 17, 2013 at 10:55 AM
‘Toons of the Day: The Sergeant Schultz Administration
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Jay, see what you have become. Time to walk away. Soon you will have nothing that was you. Obama will suck your soul, spit it out and move on to another dupe.
StevC on May 17, 2013 at 10:57 AM
thanks RWM
excellent work as usual.
CoffeeLover on May 17, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Don’t like the word “scandal” Jay? Ok, let’s try “colossal clusterfark,” “mind-boggling incompetence,” “crap-weasel ethics”, “deliberate obfuscation” . . . Any of those work for you, Jay?
natasha333 on May 17, 2013 at 10:59 AM
That’s pretty funny Ed.
I think Carney is in a state of Bliss…Must be the Gubmint Crack he gets for free…
workingclass artist on May 17, 2013 at 10:59 AM
He pretty much is the face of this administration. Snarky, unprofessional, arrogant, dishonest, and a fool.
LeftCoastRight on May 17, 2013 at 10:59 AM
Pic of the Day: Clown Carney & The Three-Scandal Circus
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Well, this guy told Piers Morgan that he rather “enjoyed”
this week….in other words, he enjoyed Lying to the public.
This man’s Life is a Lie, it is what Leftists do.
So to him, this is SOP.
ToddPA on May 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Lying crap weasel says what?!?
CitizenEgg on May 17, 2013 at 11:02 AM
His perception of reality leads me to believe that Jay Carney has mental problems.
portlandon on May 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM
Maybe he’s been smoking too much crack.
scalleywag on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM
The reason why he says it not a scandal is because its just the normal operating procedure for this administration.
vcferlita on May 17, 2013 at 11:04 AM
“It’s not a scandal until we say it’s a scandal”. Um, Jay, by the same token – just because you say it isn’t a scandal doesn’t make it true. Coincidentally, much of what you say isn’t true… odd, huh? Now go back to sticking your fingers in your ears and chanting, “La, la, la”.
ghostwalker1 on May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM
Jay Carney: Douche extraordinaire.
UltimateBob on May 17, 2013 at 11:05 AM
It’s cute how the GOP thinks these scandals aren’t going away. They will be gone within a week or so from any mainstream outlets.
Sure, there will be kicking and screaming on the conservative blogs and Rush and occasionally Fox, but the “scandals” will move into the ether. The press is already getting bored with it.
We can’t rely on the GOP to attack Dems. They don’t have it in them. It’s not how the game works. Scandals only count if they’re Republican scandals.
happytobehere on May 17, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Old Jay, bless his heart, makes Ron Zeigler look like a piker. Seriously, he has raised mendacity, obfustication, and misdirection to true art forms. Translation for the libbies: He’s one heck of a liar, and does his boss proud. Oh, and he’s a total bunghole, too, but I guess you knew that.
Try this one, Jay. It worked so well the first time:
“If my answers sound confusing, I think they are confusing because the questions are confusing and the situation is confusing.”
Ron Zeigler
creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM
The only one that is a legit scandal is the DOJ harassment of the AP. The GOP has been exposed as doctoring e-mails to fit their narrative and to smear Susan Rice (no apology yet) and the IRS situation is the result of an independent agency acting in an inappropriate manner. But do continue to push and push on these and see how long the American people care I guess.
libfreeordie on May 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Scandals? What scandals?
Jay “Benghazi Bob” Carney has nothing left he can say without lying, so he must deny, deny, deny.
farsighted on May 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
“These are not the droids that you’re looking for”
“Move along”
cajunpatriot on May 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
ESAD
BeachBum on May 17, 2013 at 11:11 AM
it’s sad to realize that this country has its own version of Baghdad Bob.
HarryStar on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Bagdad carney… :0
Tilly on May 17, 2013 at 11:13 AM
These aren’t scandals .. as scandals swirl around allegations
These are crimes
J_Crater on May 17, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Watergate=scandal…
#Obamascandaltrifecta=opportunities.
Would it not be awesome for one member of the Press to say “Jay, next time before you address us, you might want to wipe the drizzle of the chin”.
hillsoftx on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Who will hire Jay Carney now? I trust a used car salesman over him.
rbj on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
..head, rectum, sunshine, etc.
The War Planner on May 17, 2013 at 11:17 AM
Oops, sorry, it’s Zielger, not Zeigler. Brain too slow this morning.
creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Coffee Lover, just doing my ‘community organising’ bit! :-)
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:18 AM
Isn’t it amazing this guy actually gets paid to do this…my 14 year old son could do a better job, but he’d probably slip up and tell the truth.
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Seriously, Baghdad Bob is gonna sue you guys for copyright infringement.
NotCoach on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM
These “American people” you speak of? Are they the same ones that voted for Obama because he has such great leadership experience? He is good at leading us off of the cliff.
You are truly delusional. I hope the Kool-Aid is tasty going down.
kirkill on May 17, 2013 at 11:20 AM
Oh, lovemeordie, you got stuck with a bootleg copy of Jay Carney’s Greatest Hits. You need to spend the bucks, and pick up Revision 12. The lies are so much more polished in the studio version.
creekspecter on May 17, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Found yourself a compassionate rape counselor yet dear?
Remember, it’s not your fault. You need help. Your fat juicy healthcare benefits plan probably even covers it.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Your same post gets my same answer:
Pathetic.
Will do.
Per Gallup:
74% of Americans believe that the IRS targeting of conservative groups is serious enough to warrant continuing investigation.
69% of Americans believe that Benghazi is serious enough to warrant continuing investigation.
Per Rasmussen:
* 57% Want IRS Offenders Jailed or Fired
* Just 16% of Likely U.S. Voters believe the IRS investigations of these groups were a coincidence
* 57% think the investigations were politically motivated
* 55% think it is at least somewhat likely that President Obama or his top aides were aware that Tea Party and other conservative groups were targeted by the IRS
* Only 7% of voters believe no disciplinary action should be taken against the IRS employees involved in the investigations
Resist We Much on May 17, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Classy.
What on earth?
libfreeordie on May 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM
A totally discredited polling outfit. No thanks.
Show me the polls which say that the American people believe the President is responsible for the IRS scandal. But continued investigation is not the same thing as saying “we believe there was wrongdoing.” Its not a scandal until something has been proven scandalous. And the only thing I’m seeing in the news today about Benghazi is that GOP lawmakers lied and doctored e-mails in an attempt to screw Susan Rice and Hillary Clinton…and they haven’t acknowledged those lies.
libfreeordie on May 17, 2013 at 11:39 AM
Yeah, I learned from you.
BeachBum on May 17, 2013 at 11:41 AM
Oh, please. If the IRS had been targeted black liberal groups you’d be freaking out. Or was Nixon just misunderstood too?
For another thing the IRS actions were criminal – not “inappropriate behavior”.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Holy Crap! The GOP created the YouTube video lie! This is HUGE! The GOP denied security in Benghazi! The GOP decided to prevent military intervention in the attack! You’ve really broken things wide open here!
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:48 AM
The GOP lied and doctored emails? No, I’m sure if anything “inappropriate” happened it was the lone wolf actions of some intern in Cincinnati who did it.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:50 AM
That’s going to leave a mark.
You may have banished the troll from this thread.
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:52 AM
That can’t be true. Obama’s administration is the most transparent ever
/libfreeordie
gwelf on May 17, 2013 at 11:54 AM
You do need help, your problems are obvious.
It’s not your fault.
slickwillie2001 on May 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM
The White House has been exposed as making up that lie. The GOP didn’t doctor e-mails because THEY NEVER HAD THEM! The White House would only let them LOOK AT them, not make copies, so, of course, some of their note-taking wasn’t 100% perfect. Then the White House blew up that imperfect transcribing that they caused into a GOP scandal, until they were exposed and were forced to release the full text of the messages.
You’re such a brainless tool, libfree.
Socratease on May 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM
i.e, “I love my job. I get to lie and obfuscate and i get paid for doing it.”
AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 11:58 AM
Speaking of which, libfree, sequi, HAL and the rest of the trolls here, do you get paid to come here and obfuscate for Obama? … or do you do it for free? i.e, are you pros or just sluts for the administration?
AZfederalist on May 17, 2013 at 12:01 PM
Hey Jay, if you think that was fun, you’ll have a blast with Darrell Issa and his committee! But not as much of a blast as Ambassador Stevens got!
Steve Z on May 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM
New Strategy – it’s all a dream woooo woooo wooooo!!!!
Honestly though, if the press wants to pretend it’s nothing then the low information voter will probably go along with it. I mean with the new normal being what it is… can you really call something a scandal when everything this president does is underhanded, a lie, corrupt, condescending, lazy, etc? It’s a scandal he got re-elected!
Ukiah on May 17, 2013 at 12:07 PM
The IRS isn’t ‘independent’: it exists as a part of the Treasury Dept. and reports through the head of the Treasury Dept.
That was TurboTax Tim Geithner.
Why are you trying to protect Little Timmy Geithner from accountability by repeating the ‘independent’ concept?
ajacksonian on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM
…you can tell…he worked at TIME magazine!
KOOLAID2 on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM
You see very limited news.
Are you actually trying to claim that the admin didn’t perpetrate a lie by blaming Benghazi on the youtube video?
This is entertaining.
blink on May 17, 2013 at 12:25 PM
Errrrrrrr
Already debunked as yet another WH lie, but keep flailing. You’re really cute when you’re desperate, dear.
F- (Del Dolemonte TM)
ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on May 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM
Why is he so verklempt then?
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:11 PM
libnotfree and his racist dummy idiots
Sugah-daddy must be protected at all idiotic cost. To expect this little of the first half black president is the ultimate form of racism.
Schadenfreude on May 17, 2013 at 1:20 PM
And I dismiss your dismissal…
Pest on May 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM
Carney still thinks Americans believe if they clicks their heels together he can get a free trip to Kansas.
Stop the abortions, free lunches and condoms and watch them turn on you guys like the fouled animals they’ve become.
The dirty little secret about far too many Americans-in both parties is that they don’t desire freedom-they desire guilt free licenses to do their evil-and are more than willing to take my freedom away in the process.
Don L on May 17, 2013 at 3:27 PM
Never saw a puppet without a master controlling its voice from a shadowy dark place.
Don L on May 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM
Bad week for “Doogie Howser: Boy Press Secretary” it seems.
As Krauthammer remarked after the first briefing this week, “Carney seems perfectly comfortable with lying, he’s just not very good at it.” You’d think a guy who worked for Obama would work on the skill, since it is one of the few things his boss does well.
Adjoran on May 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM
fossten on May 18, 2013 at 8:10 AM