Gov. McDonnell: Time for a second look at arming school officials?
posted at 6:01 pm on December 19, 2012 by Erika Johnsen
On Tuesday, Michigan Gov. Rick Synder nixed a bill that would have allowed for adults with extra training to carry concealed weapons in schools, while over in Texas, Gov. Rick Perry voiced his support for the same idea as a viable method of improving school security. Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell also spoke up on the issue on Tuesday; he has supported a ban on guns in schools in the past, but in the wake of the Sandy Hook massacre, thinks it may be time to revisit the issue.
Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell has entered the fray on gun control, telling a news radio station he thinks it’s time for “a reasonable discussion” to be held on allowing school officials to be armed in the wake of the Newtown, Conn., massacre of young children.
“I know there’s been a knee-jerk reaction against that,” the Republican said Tuesday on WTOP radio, according to a report in the Richmond Times-Dispatch.
But he added, “I think there should at least be a discussion of that. If people were armed, not just a police officer, but other school officials who were trained and chose to have a weapon certainly there’d [have] been an opportunity to stop aggressors coming into the school.” …
McDonnell said he agreed that a discussion about the “multiple clip issue is one . . . that we can have.”
As McDonnell pointed out, there is always a knee-jerk reaction against the idea that more guns lead to less crime, but the areas in which these mass shootings have been taking place being “gun-free zones” has not accomplished anything in deterring crime. In all of Washington’s recent calls for action, the proposals are all focused on expanding gun control instead of gun safety — but might we be seeing actual legislation, and support for said legislation, from the state-level Virginia legislature in the near future? Looks like it:
Del. Robert G. Marshall is proposing a bill that would require some teachers or other school staff to carry concealed weapons in schools.
Marshall (R-Prince William) requested that the bill be drafted in response to the mass shooting last week at a Connecticut elementary school. …
“I would be very supportive of the idea that properly trained teachers could carry concealed firearms,” said Sen. Richard H. Black (R-Loudoun). “There’s no way you’d have 20 innocent children gunned down if you had teachers who could help to defend themselves.”
Philip Van Cleave, who heads the Virginia Citizens Defense League, said he would like to see the state eliminate the gun-free zones surrounding schools. As an interim step, he would support arming teachers and other staff.
“We’d prefer to just see that [gun-free zone] go away, not just [for] teachers but even parents or whoever,” he said. “They’re carrying everywhere else. Why do we not trust them on school grounds? Gun-free zones don’t work, and telling people with permits they can’t carry on school property — the people you don’t want carrying on school property don’t have permits.”
Would the legislation actually have a shot at passing? I’d say very possibly, or at least much more so than it did in Michigan — Virginia may be slowly turning purple, but the firearms issue is one that tends to bring out its traditionally reddish leanings.
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It’s to fracking late after the fact isn’t it!
Who vetted these people?
Oh right, no one…
Scrumpy on May 9, 2013 at 9:24 PM
Got to hand it to teachers…
The screwed up kind..
They know how to teach BS..
Electrongod on May 9, 2013 at 9:26 PM
I don’t know about educational ‘raps’ but sheesh… that not the point is it?
These people lied and got in under the radar, lefties are good at that crap…
Scrumpy on May 9, 2013 at 9:26 PM
Right up there with the ‘speaker’ telling students to repeat after her, “We didn’t cross the border, the border crossed us!”
GarandFan on May 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM
Like I said we have to crush the teacher’s unions.
Just like the MSM…no other choice.
William Eaton on May 9, 2013 at 9:27 PM
Xiuhtezcatl Martinez specifically asked for these anti-fracking idjits to come spaek at his school?
Oh yeah a ‘leader’ ok… of the new newer dems of the future…
Scrumpy on May 9, 2013 at 9:28 PM
The way the schools indoctrinate kids into “right thinking” is luciferian.
tom daschle concerned on May 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM
There is always a spike, then a weird decline that treats zero as asymptotic. Have you noticed this?
So, the stupidity and mindlessness of Earth Worship spikes. And one opposes it. And it declines. But it doesn’t go away. It lingers for a long, long time, and continues to surprise.
Right now, my TV is thick with it. I just watched a Warehouse 13 that put an “understandable” face on eco terrorism.
And things like Gangnam Style. It was over a long time ago, but it’s still lingering. Only now is it getting into commercials.
Anyway, transitive societal events look suspiciously like ADSR envelopes.
Just mentioning.
Axe on May 9, 2013 at 9:33 PM
Who indoctrinated the indoctrinators? They’re only 12.
blammm on May 9, 2013 at 9:34 PM
hackneyed? oh noes!!! you mean this, MKH is hackneyed?
4M hits on keynes and hayek can’t be wrong if it feels so right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0nERTFo-Sk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQnarzmTOc
r keller on May 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM
jeez. Back in the dinosaur days we got to watch a really neat puppet show about Hansel and Gretl. Now it’s “don’t frack me bro.”
arnold ziffel on May 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Jesus..dig down a little bit and see what these zipper heads are all about..not the kids doing the ‘rapping’..
Holy Moses…
These people are freaks…
BigWyo on May 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM
You want a job when you get out of school?
Tell the brown shirt to frack off.
AllahsNippleHair on May 9, 2013 at 9:38 PM
The stupidification of America.
VorDaj on May 9, 2013 at 9:39 PM
This was painful to watch.
ButterflyDragon on May 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM
I don’t think the message was sinking in. Most of those kids looks bored to tears.
Bishop on May 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM
arnold ziffel on May 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Lmao, I didn’t see no Hansel n Gretel… I was FORCED to watch Punch and Judy!!!! I have been scarred for life!
Scrumpy on May 9, 2013 at 9:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6LNQa3a9Cg
And it’s still popular in the UK lol…
Scrumpy on May 9, 2013 at 9:45 PM
Go watch this..
http://vimeo.com/54985754
Freaks…
BigWyo on May 9, 2013 at 9:45 PM
Not bad but they need to throw down a few bitches and ho’s to make it a dope track.
iceman1960 on May 9, 2013 at 9:45 PM
It really is just child abuse now. Indoctrination based on bullshit facts, especially something like fracking which even Obama’s EPA has found not to be harmful, should be prohibited and a terminable offence for those teachers that defy the proscription.
Resist We Much on May 9, 2013 at 9:47 PM
Not too… bad but they need to throw a couple of b#tches and ho’s in there to make it a dope track.
iceman1960 on May 9, 2013 at 9:48 PM
Safe fracking, the real story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4aOMKhkhSc
VegasRick on May 9, 2013 at 9:49 PM
Sorry, I cannot take this lightly.
Find a sponsor. Sue the teacher. Sue the administrators. Sue the school board. Then sue them again.
This sh*t is going to stop. And litigation is our last resort.
petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 9:51 PM
Almost complete.
CW on May 9, 2013 at 9:55 PM
That’s what I mean by lingering effects. We’ve finished with fracking; we know fracking’s fine. Now, for awhile, there will be a lot more anti-fracking . . . “events” of one kind or another — though they will be of less and less impact — as the idea waves out through the culture, and it’s negating wave follows behind it.
. . . lol, no one finds this interesting but me, do they? Not even my beloved Resist.
Where’s Egg? He might think it’s of passing interest.
Axe on May 9, 2013 at 9:56 PM
South Park parodied this with cigarettes years ago: http://tinyurl.com/bp9ho9x.
wte9 on May 9, 2013 at 9:56 PM
A “Day Without Hate” featuring a group singing about the evils of fracking.
Hill60 on May 9, 2013 at 9:56 PM
“Day Without Hate”
But as long as you hate fracking and access to cheaper energy, that’s cool.
Left Coast Right Mind on May 9, 2013 at 9:59 PM
Axe on May 9, 2013 at 9:56 PM
‘Course it’s of interest, and folks like us are the only ones who aid it’s swift departure out of the scene!!
Daunting task for many…
Scrumpy on May 9, 2013 at 10:00 PM
So can we assume that all of the anti-fracking students and teachers at Evergreen Middle School walk to and from school every day?
They certainly wouldn’t want to damage the earth by using fuel to get to school by bus or car now, would they?
And shouldn’t they be saving energy by turning out the lights in that room?
wren on May 9, 2013 at 10:01 PM
Child abuse, yes. Not to mention breach of fiduciary duty and undue influence of school personnel against parents for the care of their children. Parents do not entrust their their children to the care of government school teachers to have their own family values overruled by teachers’ undue influence, now do they? There’s a good legal argument here, based on fiduciary duty, and we need a creative lawyer to make it and win the precedent.
Jay Sekulow, are you there?
petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 10:02 PM
petefrt on May 9, 2013 at 10:02 PM
If that is somthing possible then that can be persued!
Scrumpy on May 9, 2013 at 10:05 PM
“Earth Guardians” didn’t set off any alarms with the admins? I got to get out of this state.
chewydog on May 9, 2013 at 10:06 PM
Scrumpy, negating wavelet, part of summed negating wavefront. :)
Axe on May 9, 2013 at 10:08 PM
It’s kinda funny to hear the words “Natural Gas is not the way to go” when I remember being told by leftists in the ‘Aughts about how much better natural gas is compared to dirty, dirty oil.
thebrokenrattle on May 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM
Does anybody think that the cynicism shown by the young isn’t connected to their feeling of being deceived by the “grown-ups” ?
J_Crater on May 9, 2013 at 10:13 PM
I hate “Day Without Hate” events!
KS Rex on May 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM
.
They should just come right out and say:
.
Of course, worded that way won’t fit the music as good … but that’s what they really mean.
listens2glenn on May 9, 2013 at 10:27 PM
The saddest part of that. Those kids have no concept of the Luddite future their “mentors” are setting them up for them.
soundingboard on May 9, 2013 at 10:30 PM
I’m also of the belief that if the Gaians succeed in their goals, a significant portion of those kids won’t live to see fifty.
soundingboard on May 9, 2013 at 10:37 PM
Ha. God bless fracking. Chesapeake Energy just completed the first lateral under our acreage. I can’t wait for them to come back and frack the crap out of that thing just as soon as the pipeline gets to it. :D :D :D
cynccook on May 9, 2013 at 10:39 PM
Do it for the Tasidae
tom daschle concerned on May 9, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Take Schoolhouse Rock:
Remove the talent
Remove the facts
Remove that icky patriotism
presto!
anti-fracking indoctrination rap for middle-schoolers
rihar on May 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM
One more reason to hate rap.
Is it OK to say that?
Kraken on May 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM
The Hayek vs. Keynes rap were awesome.
BigWillieStyles on May 10, 2013 at 2:34 AM
Xiuhtezcatl Martinez. When I see someone with a crazy name like that I imagine what it must be like to go through life. “How do you spell that?” “Sorry, let’s try that again.”
How could a parent do that to someone? Every HR person has a picture of the person with the weird name (usually not favorable)before they even talk to him/her?
AcidReflux on May 10, 2013 at 5:44 AM
A day without hate… save for the hating of corporations and the modern world run by hydrocarbons.
Say, kids, listen to these idiots and you, too, will be living in a cave without heat, light and sanitation. And no amount of patchouli will cover up the stink, either… trust me on that…
ajacksonian on May 10, 2013 at 7:04 AM
Oh, for frack’s sake…
bigmacdaddy on May 10, 2013 at 7:30 AM
It’s even worse when they go cutesy and Xiuhtezcatl becomes something like Xi or even worse Catl.
Happy Nomad on May 10, 2013 at 7:31 AM
One sided liberal argument aside…it’s not the worst rap evah.
THIS is.
JetBoy on May 10, 2013 at 7:46 AM
I can’t think of a single reason any sane person would send their kids to government schools.
Dasher on May 10, 2013 at 7:48 AM
teacher leave those kids alone
ChunkyLover on May 10, 2013 at 10:17 AM
What could we do for a day without hate event? I know, lets hate on energy producers.
Dollayo on May 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM
Boy, was that ever lame.
The only benefit the audience probably saw to the presentation is it got them out of class. The downside was they had to listen to this.
No mention of ho’s, b!tche$, or the “eff” word. Not much of a “rap” by contemporary standards.
tpitman on May 10, 2013 at 10:41 AM
If the kids ever in any way recall this, they won’t recall that fracking is bad. They’ll recall that people opposed to fracking are lame and stupid. They’d tried this sort of indoctrination trying to scare my generation away from drugs, and we ended up being just as addled as our boomer parents. Don’t think that kids are stupid just because they’re poorly educated. They know when the adults are trying to feed them propaganda, and most end up rebelling. Liberal public schools are one of the biggest enemies of liberalism in America.
EricW on May 10, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Friends, the public education system is now officially just a state funded zombie mill.
Get your kids away from any state funded school…quickly.
kpguru on May 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM