Video: Obama’s speech in Newtown

posted at 8:01 am on December 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

While the nation mourned the horrific murders at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Connecticut, Barack Obama arrived to deliver a message of political action.  What kind of action?  Despite some of the initial reactions to Obama’s speech at the prayer vigil last night, a read of the transcript shows that the speech was as vague on solutions as most of us have felt since the shootings on Friday.  Certainly, one could have some suspicions about the direction that Obama and his administration would like to travel for solutions, but other than promise to study the situation, Obama offered no easy proposals to solve the problems of brokenness, however one defines it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1gSsm5xlKQ

Here is the most relevant part of the speech:

We can’t tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change. We will be told that the causes of such violence are complex, and that is true. No single law — no set of laws can eliminate evil from the world, or prevent every senseless act of violence in our society.

But that can’t be an excuse for inaction. Surely, we can do better than this. If there is even one step we can take to save another child, or another parent, or another town, from the grief that has visited Tucson, and Aurora, and Oak Creek, and Newtown, and communities from Columbine to Blacksburg before that — then surely we have an obligation to try.

In the coming weeks, I will use whatever power this office holds to engage my fellow citizens — from law enforcement to mental health professionals to parents and educators — in an effort aimed at preventing more tragedies like this. Because what choice do we have? We can’t accept events like this as routine. Are we really prepared to say that we’re powerless in the face of such carnage, that the politics are too hard? Are we prepared to say that such violence visited on our children year after year after year is somehow the price of our freedom?

But Obama never went any further toward providing his own answers to those questions.  Instead, he returned to the tenor of the vigil service:

All the world’s religions — so many of them represented here today — start with a simple question: Why are we here? What gives our life meaning? What gives our acts purpose? We know our time on this Earth is fleeting. We know that we will each have our share of pleasure and pain; that even after we chase after some earthly goal, whether it’s wealth or power or fame, or just simple comfort, we will, in some fashion, fall short of what we had hoped. We know that no matter how good our intentions, we will all stumble sometimes, in some way. We will make mistakes, we will experience hardships. And even when we’re trying to do the right thing, we know that much of our time will be spent groping through the darkness, so often unable to discern God’s heavenly plans.

There’s only one thing we can be sure of, and that is the love that we have — for our children, for our families, for each other. The warmth of a small child’s embrace — that is true. The memories we have of them, the joy that they bring, the wonder we see through their eyes, that fierce and boundless love we feel for them, a love that takes us out of ourselves, and binds us to something larger — we know that’s what matters. We know we’re always doing right when we’re taking care of them, when we’re teaching them well, when we’re showing acts of kindness. We don’t go wrong when we do that.

In the face of such evil and horror, a little humility isn’t a bad quality to demonstrate.  We’ll see whether that sticks, but the speech itself — on its own terms — expresses the anger, frustration, and grief that all Americans still feel after Newtown: how can we fix this? And perhaps the greater frustration: Is it really in our power to fix it?

Update: I wrote that the shootings took place on Thursday, but they took place on Friday.  I’ve fixed it above.


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“as most of us have felt since the shootings on Thursday”

I think that’s suppose to be Friday, right?

GCM on December 17, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Vague on solutions

That’s par for dear leader

cmsinaz on December 17, 2012 at 8:07 AM

I will be the first to say it..

Obama cannot change events now or in the future…
Just like he cannot change events in Benghazi or elsewhere..

If the media plasters an event…
It gets attention..
Once the media has moved on…

Electrongod on December 17, 2012 at 8:08 AM

Who accepts these events as “routine”? Who shrugs their shoulders and go “ehh”? The Left loves these things.

JohnBrown on December 17, 2012 at 8:11 AM

i’m not listening to a president who has murdered more unborn children than any other?

renalin on December 17, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Once the media has moved on…
Electrongod on December 17, 2012 at 8:08 AM

What hurricane? …..oh yeah. right.

tommyboy on December 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Time to start profiling white male gun owners.

lostmotherland on December 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

The front and back of the speech was fine. The detour into “we have to do something to fix this” was overtly political even if he didn’t get specific. He probably views it as a safe way to gauge public reaction without actually committing to anything.

Southernblogger on December 17, 2012 at 8:14 AM

If the President keeps giving speeches, I will find more motivation to do chores.

My home will never be cleaner & better organized. Thank you President Revenge!

22044 on December 17, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Am I cynical to say that I am not the least bit interested in hearing this man’s opinion on any subject whatsoever?

turfmann on December 17, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Time to start profiling white male gun owners.

lostmotherland on December 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

How is it that this moron made it through the weekend without being banned?

turfmann on December 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM

*sigh* this space used to be the OOTD

22044 on December 17, 2012 at 8:17 AM

In the face of such evil and horror, a little humility isn’t a bad quality to demonstrate. We’ll see whether that sticks, but the speech itself — on its own terms — expresses the anger, frustration, and grief that all Americans still feel after Newtown: how can we fix this? And perhaps the greater frustration: Is it really in our power to fix it?

No, we don’t have the power to prevent this sort of thing. It’s not the kind of thing you want to tell those who are grieving(or anyone for that matter). But that’s the price of freedom. Sometimes, bad people are going to do bad things. We can certainly put measures in place to attempt to prevent them or minimize the damage. But unless people want to live in a totalitarian state, these tragedies will occasionally happen.

Good luck convincing libtards of that however. These are the kinds of egomaniacal loons who thing by reducing our carbon footprint, we can prevent hurricanes.

Doughboy on December 17, 2012 at 8:18 AM

mush

sartana on December 17, 2012 at 8:18 AM

In the wake of this horrible tragedy there two distinct conversations happening:

-Conservatives discuss mental health issues and the overall cultural and moral decline of our country, what has happened and why.

-Leftists discuss their lust for more authority and more control over law-abiding citizens.

visions on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Prediction – Teh SCOAMF will use the EPA to ban both lead bullets and smokeless gunpowder as “threats to Mother Gaia”.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

i’m not listening to a president who has murdered more unborn children than any other?

renalin on December 17, 2012 at 8:12 AM

and if the aborted baby is still alive drown him in a tub of water this meets O’s approval

aknews on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

I agree Southernblogger…and, afterall, he can’t let a crisis go to waste. My heart breaks for the little ones and the Teachers who died. But we need an overall look at why these events keep happening and it’s not as simple as gun control.

CoffeeLover on December 17, 2012 at 8:20 AM

“first I’d like to give a shout out to the brave Navy Corpse Man that died in this horrible video incident…what? Oh, first I’d like to give a shout out to Gun Control”
- Barky

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:20 AM

Ding ding ding visions

cmsinaz on December 17, 2012 at 8:21 AM

In the wake of this horrible tragedy there two distinct conversations happening:

-Conservatives discuss mental health issues and the overall cultural and moral decline of our country, what has happened and why.

-Leftists discuss their lust for more authority and more control over law-abiding citizens.

visions on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

You neglected to point out that the spoils of the latter are the cause of the former.

turfmann on December 17, 2012 at 8:21 AM

Can’t watch him, did he flip the bird again?

D-fusit on December 17, 2012 at 8:22 AM

But Obama never went any further toward providing his own answers to those questions.

a four million dollar upcoming vacation takes a lot off the mind – like presidentin’

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:22 AM

We can’t accept events like this as routine.

For God’s sake, who accepts events like this as “routine”?

Fallon on December 17, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Time to start profiling white male gun owners.

lostmotherland on December 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

How is it that this moron made it through the weekend without being banned?

turfmann on December 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Actually, if he would support profiling in general, I would have no problem with his stance – because he would come up pretty much empty, and we could concentrate on the bad guys.

OldEnglish on December 17, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Time to start profiling white male gun owners.

lostmotherland on December 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

yes, profile the ones who own them legally. Profile them very closely, or in the 500 yard range if they have a good rifle.

we will all miss you

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:24 AM

Who accepts these events as “routine”? Who shrugs their shoulders and go “ehh”? The Left loves these things.

JohnBrown on December 17, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Yup. Didn’t mean to step on your toes post.

Fallon on December 17, 2012 at 8:27 AM

I’m going to do a little thread spamming because I believe this is an important issue. There was quite a bit of discussion on last nights QOTD where some discussed the unarmed British police, Bobbies.

Earlier this Fall there was this story.

Pc Nicola Hughes, 23, and Pc Fiona Bone, 32, were killed yesterday after being lured into an ambush when they were called to investigate a hoax burglary. According to police, the officers were approaching a property in the Hattersley Estate in Mottram when a man reportedly fired 13 gunshots at the pair before hurling a grenade.

Why, when we have so many other countries as examples do we continue down roads to failure? Gun bans in GB have not kept guns from criminals. In fact, some British LEOs have already been armed to the teeth to fight gangs.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:27 AM

The only people I find it more distasteful to listen to than Obama are the liberal media propagandists who spew lies, vitriol, and hate toward conservatives and in particular Christians (well, maybe most of our congressmen and women too). Even what they don’t say says it all about them. They are as much to blame for a collapse in morality and civility as any other cause.

Obama cannot resist bringing his idealogy into his perpetual campaign speeches.

iamsaved on December 17, 2012 at 8:27 AM

How is it that this moron made it through the weekend without being banned?

turfmann on December 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM

Idiots ranting tends to drive traffic.

Never let an idiot go to waste.

cozmo on December 17, 2012 at 8:27 AM

A cynic would ask Obama, “How many innocent young children have been killed by your ‘Obama-is-the-judge,jury&executioner’ drone attacks in foreign countries?”

albill on December 17, 2012 at 8:28 AM

In the wake of this horrible tragedy there two distinct conversations happening:

-Conservatives discuss mental health issues and the overall cultural and moral decline of our country, what has happened and why.

-Leftists discuss their lust for more authority and more control over law-abiding citizens.

visions on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Well-stated.

Josiah on December 17, 2012 at 8:28 AM

lostmotherland would be the Soviet Union, correct?

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Prediction – Teh SCOAMF will use the EPA to ban both lead bullets and smokeless gunpowder as “threats to Mother Gaia”.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Let them, Steve.

Composite Bullets

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM

In the wake of this horrible tragedy there two distinct conversations happening:

-Conservatives discuss mental health issues and the overall cultural and moral decline of our country, what has happened and why.

-Leftists discuss their lust for more authority and more control over law-abiding citizens.

visions on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Insightful Comment of the Day™

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM

How can we fix this? We can’t. Evil has always and will always exist. The best the government can do is get out of the way of people helping themselves and each other.

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:33 AM

In the wake of this horrible tragedy there two distinct conversations happening:

-Conservatives discuss mental health issues and the overall cultural and moral decline of our country, what has happened and why.

-Leftists discuss their lust for more authority and more control over law-abiding citizens.

visions on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

+1

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

If there is even one step we can take to save another child, or another parent, or another town, from the grief that has visited Tucson, and Aurora, and Oak Creek, and Newtown, and communities from Columbine to Blacksburg before that — then surely we have an obligation to try.

This is the whole speech here, or at least the part that really matters for liberals. Nobody thinks he means psychiatric care or counceling or anything like that. Everyone knows what this really means.

Dongemaharu on December 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

What offended me most and when I changed the channel was when Obama started in with the “Have we as a society of parents, communities and a government done enough to protect our children?” His answer was NO. Of course he believes we are all failures and the Government is the answer. What a complete tool!!!

dddave on December 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

lostmotherland might be Journey to the Center of the Earth – but the terrible one with George of the Jungle in it.

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Time to start profiling white male gun owners.

lostmotherland on December 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM

How is it that this moron made it through the weekend without being banned?

turfmann on December 17, 2012 at 8:16 AM

This idiot posts under a few names. Banning him wouldn’t help.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Let them, Steve.

Composite Bullets

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM

That’s why I added the gunpowder to the previously-considered step of banning lead bullets.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM

There’s only one thing we can be sure of, and that is the love that we have — for our children, for our families, for each other. The warmth of a small child’s embrace — that is true. The memories we have of them, the joy that they bring, the wonder we see through their eyes, that fierce and boundless love we feel for them, a love that takes us out of ourselves, and binds us to something larger — we know that’s what matters…

How does this jive with:

Look, I got two daughters… I don’t want them punished with a baby.

That baby would be his grandchild. His own flesh and blood. None of what he says or does makes sense to me. He lies so effortlessly…

Fallon on December 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM

I can remember when something far more destructive was placed in the hands of violent individuals..
Two towers fell because of this..
But just now I went outside and looked in the sky…
I can still see these “weapons of mass destruction” in the air…

Oh wait…

They are only WMDs when in the wrong hands…
But in the right hands…
They are accepted as tools in our world…

Hands….
Something about hands…
Hand control

Electrongod on December 17, 2012 at 8:36 AM

In the wake of this horrible tragedy there two distinct conversations happening:

-Conservatives discuss mental health issues and the overall cultural and moral decline of our country, what has happened and why.

-Leftists discuss their lust for more authority and more control over law-abiding citizens.

visions on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Well said.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:36 AM

TAKE ANOTHER STEP TO SAVE A CHILD?…..

YOU Mr. President support and fight like tooth and nail to make sure EVERYONE is FORCED to pay for every possible ABORTION.

Don’t posture to take away our right to own a gun that we use to defend ourselves against the lawless.

SHAME on you and the other politicians.

PappyD61 on December 17, 2012 at 8:37 AM

I do not trust this guy period.

Everything he says, everything he does in my opinion is a means to an end for some political leftist gain.

If that makes me a loon so be it.

gophergirl on December 17, 2012 at 8:37 AM

This idiot posts under a few names. Banning him wouldn’t help.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:34 AM

what if we give them a cookie? or extra food stamps? maybe forgive their college debt, which they still owe after dropping out

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Romney campaign advisor-We need to do something…

Sweet!

Mr. Arrogant on December 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Also keep in mind that the recent shooting in the Portland mall was very likely curtailed due to a concealed carry patron in the mall (the shooter killed himself after seeing an ordinary citizen with a gun and attempting to get a shot off on him).

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

what if we give them a cookie? or extra food stamps? maybe forgive their college debt, which they still owe after dropping out

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM

All that would do is have the troll saying, “MOAR!!!!111!11EleVenTY@!@!@#~!@$#12`1“12!@”

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2012 at 8:39 AM

how can we fix this? And perhaps the greater frustration: Is it really in our power to fix it?

Yes, of course we can fix it. First we must recognize that it is the people who do these things that must be identified and fixed. We used to do that. If a person was found to be a danger to themselves or others, we removed them from our midst and gave them treatment.

Now, we leave crazy people running around without any real supervision.

This shooter had serious mental issues. Wh

dogsoldier on December 17, 2012 at 8:41 AM

This guy refused to vote for legislation that would have required medical care for babies born alive via an abortion rather than tossed aside to die alone in a corner. Don’t tell me he ‘loves’ the little children. He’s part of the culture of death.

LilyBart on December 17, 2012 at 8:45 AM

Obama’s speech sounded like all his speeches – a teleprompter. It probably even scrolled the words *shed a tear here” and Ron Barack Burgundy followed it religiously.

Where’s Christina Applegate when you need her?

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:45 AM

In the wake of this horrible tragedy there two distinct conversations happening:

-Conservatives discuss mental health issues and the overall cultural and moral decline of our country, what has happened and why.

-Leftists discuss their lust for more authority and more control over law-abiding citizens.

visions on December 17, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Wrong the left has been talking about both. The left has been pointing out that Reagan gutted mental health services and that these programs are among the earliest targets in conservative austerity budgets, I suspect cuts to mental health services were a key part of Boehners budget plan. The left has been pointing out that there is a broad culture of violence from drone strikes to video games that capital celebrates and profits from. The left has been critiquing the nations lack of attention to children’s deaths from gun violence in inner city areas. Remember the Democratic Party is not “the left.”

libfreeordie on December 17, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Obama thinks freedom is a problem to be eliminated.

WannabeAnglican on December 17, 2012 at 8:47 AM

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:32 AM

That’s why I added the gunpowder to the previously-considered step of banning lead bullets.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Mother Jones journos have been trying to outlaw fireworks forever because of aluminum and other chemicals that produce different ignition displays. Their rant always starts, “Well, we’re not sure what the effect is but it must be bad.”

Call me an idiot, but I don’t want to live in a world without fireworks.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:48 AM

In the face of such evil and horror, a little humility isn’t a bad quality to demonstrate. We’ll see whether that sticks, but the speech itself — on its own terms — expresses the anger, frustration, and grief that all Americans still feel after Newtown: how can we fix this? And perhaps the greater frustration: Is it really in our power to fix it?

We really need to know more about what happened before we can begin any discussion on how to “fix” this. There has been a rush to ban guns and if I hear one more person lecture the world on senselessness of allowing citizens to legally own weapons more powerful than a BB gun, I’m going to snap! They just had a guy on the radio talking about the fact that those children didn’t stand a chance against a Bushmaster semi-automatic. Well, the radio host rightly pointed out that the children didn’t stand a chance against the shooter- not the gun. And we still don’t know anything substantive about the shooter or his motives (anybody who claims otherwise is not telling the truth).

Until the police finish investigating this horrific crime, there will be a paucity of facts. And anybody from the rat-eared wonder on down who thinks that the “fix” only involves banning guns is working from pre-conceived ideology and not the facts of the Newtown massacre. They are smearing their own dogma in the blood of slaughtered children and that is just wrong.

Happy Nomad on December 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Obama can be as vague as he wants, this is just a rallying cry to his base and to Dem legislators to ramp up the real attack on the 2nd amendment. Leading from behind (a podium) as always.

RedRedRice on December 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it’s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.

- Rahm Emanuel, Mayor of Chicago. IL, Former Obama Administration Chief of Staff

If they outlaw guns…

All of us average Americans will be helpless against enemies, foreign and domestic.

And, that seems to be the way Obama and the Progressives want it.

kingsjester on December 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM

Call me an idiot, but I don’t want to live in a world without fireworks.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:48 AM

If you have to be called an idiot, so do I. Fireworks rock.

Steve Eggleston on December 17, 2012 at 8:50 AM

We can’t tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change.

fine, start with this…….Change our CULTURE

…and the Hollywood violence and degrading of the traditional american family unit.

How about teaching millions of children that they aren’t just lucky spawn of some flotsam that floated on the sea 6 million years ago? How about teaching them they WERE DESIGNED BY A LOVING GOD that has a plan for them?

How about stopping the hundreds of billions that have been spent to decimate the black family through Welfare and all other programs.

How about requiring WORK from welfare recipients?

How about getting out of the way of the private sector so they can create JOBS FOR AMERICANS, Mr. President.

Posturing politicians that use their teleprompters or get their panties in a wad because the media is in a frenzy are pathetic.

What a great nation we were.

PappyD61 on December 17, 2012 at 8:51 AM

if anyone comes for my guns they’ll have to get through my Republican sized gate first. It has an automatic “shove a gun up your wazoo if you get the combo wrong” feature. Best money I ever spent.

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Wrong the left has been talking about both. The left has been pointing out that Reagan gutted mental health services and that these programs are among the earliest targets in conservative austerity budgets, I suspect cuts to mental health services were a key part of Boehners budget plan. The left has been pointing out that there is a broad culture of violence from drone strikes to video games that capital celebrates and profits from. The left has been critiquing the nations lack of attention to children’s deaths from gun violence in inner city areas. Remember the Democratic Party is not “the left.”

libfreeordie on December 17, 2012 at 8:46 AM

But of course a pro-abortion culture isn’t to blame at all right? But video games are.

What affects the psyche of a man more – a first person shooter video game or the fact that if his girl friend gets pregnant they’ll just go to the doctor and kill the child?

Also, I’m curious what the mental health budget would need to be in order to prevent crazy people from doing crazy and/or evil things?

And in this case do we know that the killer wasn’t being “properly” treated for whatever mental conditions he may have had?

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:53 AM

I once started a grass fire with some serious (almost illegal) fireworks. Luckily I have several long hoses and it was a rare wet year. Still, I haven’t spent one Fourth of July since without setting off fireworks.

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:53 AM

libfreeordie on December 17, 2012 at 8:46 AM

lol, The 1966 Lanterman Petris Short Act (LPS Act)?

No, progressives (ACLU) demanded people incarcerated in institutions only be there voluntarily.

It should be noted that LPS was signed by Governor Reagan in California but only after pressure from groups like the ACLU stepped in and sued on behalf of patients who were being involuntarily hospitalized. Other states followed suit with their own similar involuntary and voluntary commitment statutes.

You can “try” to rewrite history for your political objectives here. But you’re just … not … good enough.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

The left has been pointing out that Reagan gutted mental health services and that these programs are among the earliest targets in conservative austerity budgets,

libfreeordie on December 17, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Reagan was out of office for four years before the shooter was even born. You are a filthy liar to claim that the left is talking about anything but banning guns this morning but, that aside, there is a substantive and legitimate discussion about the mental health system attached to any of these incidents. Funding is part of that discussion. But to dust off talking points blaming Ronald Reagan for the deaths of those precious children is just sick and says more about just how depraved you are than anything else. You clearly are unwilling to be part of any meaningful discussion with such a dishonest starting point.

Happy Nomad on December 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

They bring that lie up all the time.

That’s what they do, lie.

cozmo on December 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

libfreeordie on December 17, 2012 at 8:46 AM

Another issue the left likes to avoid is that guns are the great equalizer for women who want to protect themselves.

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

Does this mean we can use Hermit Gosnell as the basis for overturning Roe v Wade and re-writing abortion laws across the land?

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Don’t forget what a drubbing any Conservative Organization gets when they discuss sex and violence in the media.

“Turn the channel!”

“Don’t let your kids watch it!”

“Don’t impose your believes and values on the rest of us!”

Tipper Gore found out the hard way.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM

You can “try” to rewrite history for your political objectives here. But you’re just … not … good enough.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:54 AM

wait! I thought they were a college professor!

oh, never mind. Of course they’re not good enough then.

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Obama can be as vague as he wants, this is just a rallying cry to his base and to Dem legislators to ramp up the real attack on the 2nd amendment. Leading from behind (a podium) as always.

RedRedRice on December 17, 2012 at 8:49 AM

Nothing is going to happen. The rat-eared wonder is standing atop the bodies of those precious children and making vague threats against the Second Amendment but it is just a bone to the Brady group and other anti-Constitution factions. To do anything substantive would expend what little political capital he can muster and his agenda has far more pressing things such as amnesty for illegals (many of which are armed members of Mexican drug cartels BTW).

Happy Nomad on December 17, 2012 at 9:01 AM

Surely, we can do better than this. If there is even one step we can take to save another child, or another parent, or another town, from the grief that has visited Tucson, and Aurora, and Oak Creek, and Newtown, and communities from Columbine to Blacksburg before that — then surely we have an obligation to try.

Well.. lets take a look at what has worked, shall we? It is that simple.

What do the professionals do to protect themselves and others? Every one of them carry’s a gun.

How do they protect the President? His security teams use guns.

How do the police protect themselves and others? They use guns.

We can’t tolerate this anymore. These tragedies must end. And to end them, we must change.

This is the plan. Change America. We are under assault.

The liberal/progressives of this nation are the ones who have created this problem!
They are the ones who release criminals.
They are the ones who make it harder to convict murderers.
They are the ones who make it harder for our police to fight real crime!
They are the ones who ignore the real terrorists! They are the ones who allow our embassies to be over run and defenseless in the face of terrorists!
They are the ones who stand by and do nothing while our ambassadors are dragged out into the streets and murdered!
They are the ones who smuggled high powered weapons over the Mexican border to drug lords hoping that crime increases.. so they can run in and save us from the crimes and murders they create! They are the ones who invite celebrities to WH parties who have ranted about killing American soldiers and their families!
and then shake their hands when they show up!
They are the ones who use words like “When they bring a knife.. you bring a gun!”
They are the ones who tell their supporters to get into their neighbor’s faces and argue with them!
They are the ones who create “gun free zones” which allow murderess madmen to roam and kill at will!
They are the ones who have released the mentally ill from our nation’s hospitals!
They are the ones who push abortion and infanticide and death panels!
They are the ones who stand in front of cameras on national TV and bragged about how cool it was to “shoot all the white people” in the movies they just made! How do we not know this shooter didn’t watch Jamie Foxx on SNL and thought to himself.. “Yeah.. that’s what I’m going to do. Go kill all the white people! I want to be famous like Jammie!”

And now they race to the cameras and demand we must take more of the same! More of their fixes! More of their solutions! The same kind of solutions that have lead to this horrible mess in the first place!

Still… how freaking surreal is it that this President.. this administration was the one smuggling guns down into Mexico that lead to how many murders? How many people died because of this administration? They are the ones who should be banned from owning guns! They can’t be trusted with then! And still has anyone gone to jail?

I can tell it’s going to be a great new year.

JellyToast on December 17, 2012 at 9:03 AM

I find I am having to purchase more TV remotes due to wearing out the mute button whenever this maggot criminal of a president sounds off his filthy lying tongue.

royzer on December 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Does this mean we can use Hermit Gosnell as the basis for overturning Roe v Wade and re-writing abortion laws across the land?

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:58 AM

Superb.

I’m liking these gwelf comments.

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM

He’s only “not” a good professor if he teaches “Re-writing US History 101″. Because he sucks at that. (He’s Googling LPS Act now)

But if his lecturing is confined to “What’s LiveFreeorDeathToMediaHacks current fantasy of racism in US History.” Well, he’s an expert there.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

Don’t forget what a drubbing any Conservative Organization gets when they discuss sex and violence in the media.

“Turn the channel!”

“Don’t let your kids watch it!”

“Don’t impose your believes and values on the rest of us!”

Tipper Gore found out the hard way.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Good point.

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 9:06 AM

Obama says something about the shootings: shameless opportunist
Obama says nothing: why isn’t he saying something
Obama speaks in general terms: why aren’t there specific solutions less than 72 hours later
Obama speaks about gun control: now isn’t the time to speak about gun control
Obama wells up while taking: those are fake tears
Obama says the government needs to do more: omg he wants a nanny state
etc
etc
etc

Hotair = sad cynical hellhole train wreck

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

That’s what they do, lie.

cozmo on December 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

And they call it “more critical analysis.”

My book, how to take accepted news and facts and twist it Joe Geobbels style to fit your argument.

Ronald Raegan didn’t gut anything except the former Soivet Union. It took the obama years to build them back up. (See me using critical analysis?)

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Hotair = sad cynical hellhole train wreck

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

And yet, you’re here to try to disrupt Conservative discussion. You bitter, old, Liberal Canuck.

Pitiful.

kingsjester on December 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Hotair = sad cynical hellhole train wreck

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Opinion based.

While you’re here, help sort out some of the rank lies your fellow trolls are saying.

PS, You can get off at the next station, dumbass. No one asked you to get on in the first place.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 9:09 AM

But if his lecturing is confined to “What’s LiveFreeorDeathToMediaHacks current fantasy of racism in US History.” Well, he’s an expert there.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 9:04 AM

I went to a State School cause I wasn’t in a Binder full of Kenyans like Obama. I was a freshman when the Towers were destroyed. My Philosophy 101 teacher was a next day expert. 9/11 was our fault for bombing murderous Religion of Peace activists.

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 9:10 AM

Gee – I wonder if obama will seek MORE ‘gun control’?

Uh, obama does not need to spell out his agenda of destruction – we all know exactly what “direction” he will take – and he will use the bodies of the Connecticut victims as stepping stones.

Pork-Chop on December 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Hotair = sad cynical hellhole train wreck

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

trains should be banned

I’m posting this hilarious Costas pic again, for sh!!tes and giggles

safe instapundit link

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Nothing libfree?

lol

I’m lucky to work with pretty much all Conservative former military folks. Most days prior to flight brief I enjoy showing libfreeordeathtomediahack’s comments on my tablet and point out the fact that he says he’s a “professor”.

Question of the day. Has he ever made a radio battery out a coconut?

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 9:14 AM

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 9:10 AM

That’s sad.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Hotair = sad cynical hellhole train wreck

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Then the whole nation is a sad cynical hellhole trainwreck. Because there just hasn’t been enough time for the real facts to emerge. And yes, Obama was crying fake tears and smearing the blood of innocent children on the same warmed-over dogma of the anti-gun crowd because serious discussions are going have to wait for the facts.

But, IMO, those discussions should be held only after the victims have been buried and the facts known. The rat-eared wonder and many of the enemy have rushed to podiums to exploit the deaths of those precious children. It is just sick and those critical of Obama for doing it are right to call him out for it.

Happy Nomad on December 17, 2012 at 9:16 AM

The latest update was sad but sort of good: A little girl survived by playing dead. She walked from the school covered in other people’s blood and her first words were “Mommy, I’m ok but all my friends are dead.”

Presence of mind to play dead at 6 years old, utterly amazing, but the trauma she will experience throughout life will be tough.

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Is it really in our power to fix it?

No, if that means more gun control. There will always be nuts who will randomly kill for no rational reason.

It is fascist folly to think we can “fix” what a rare loan nut can occasionally do by restricting the Constitutional rights and freedoms of over 300,000,000 law abiding citizens. It is dangerous folly as it gives further power to the self appointed and largely incompetent social engineers and politicians, almost all lefties and libs. Attempts to “fix” this will almost certainly do far more harm than good.

That is, unless the “fix” is to make sure there are always armed individuals present in such places. The nuts always target people and places they know will be undefended. Reference the 2011 massacre in Norway by another nut job, Breivik, in a country with much more draconian gun control laws.

BTW, we could “fix” our annual highway death toll of over 30,000 by reducing the speed limit to about 15 mph and strictly enforcing it. Any libs/lefties/progs out there calling for that?

Dear Leader is using a tragedy to try to score political points. There was no need to address the nation on TV and in prime time. He and his fellow fascist socialists are despicable.

farsighted on December 17, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Two points Obama brought up last night really stuck in my craw, and neither were specifically about the tragedy.

One: he mentioned that it takes the power of the federal government (or the nation) to protect my children. No – my children need *me* to keep them safe.

Two: he mentioned that once a child is born (takes its first breath), it is worthy of protecting and nourishing and loving. Uhhmm- I argue that once a child is *conceived* then it’s deserving of that. Big difference and one that I’m sure was intentional.

jwehman on December 17, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Another issue the left likes to avoid is that guns are the great equalizer for women who want to protect themselves.

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 8:57 AM

probably because if you slander the prophet of Islam you have no future – and what’s Islam if not an excuse to beat up women

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Obama says something about the shootings: shameless opportunist
Obama says nothing: why isn’t he saying something
Obama speaks in general terms: why aren’t there specific solutions less than 72 hours later
Obama speaks about gun control: now isn’t the time to speak about gun control
Obama wells up while taking: those are fake tears
Obama says the government needs to do more: omg he wants a nanny state
etc
etc
etc

Hotair = sad cynical hellhole train wreck

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Actually the Hotair bloggers were complimentary to Obama’s initial statements that now was not the time for politics and policy debates etc.

But when liberals start musing at an event meant to only deal with mourning and loss what the super state can do to fix universal problems of the human condition some of us know what’s coming and don’t like it.

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 9:19 AM

Hotair = sad cynical hellhole train wreck

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Yet you continue to add your own personal stink.

cozmo on December 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Then the whole nation is a sad cynical hellhole trainwreck. Because there just hasn’t been enough time for the real facts to emerge. And yes, Obama was crying fake tears and smearing the blood of innocent children on the same warmed-over dogma of the anti-gun crowd because serious discussions are going have to wait for the facts.

But, IMO, those discussions should be held only after the victims have been buried and the facts known. The rat-eared wonder and many of the enemy have rushed to podiums to exploit the deaths of those precious children. It is just sick and those critical of Obama for doing it are right to call him out for it.

Happy Nomad on December 17, 2012 at 9:16 AM
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Hmmm over 60 shootings in the past 30 years and your country is 0 for 60 in having “those discussions should be held only after the victims have been buried and the facts known”

If you refuse to address the mental health elephant in the room then there will be more people murdered.

Your choice.

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Two: he mentioned that once a child is born (takes its first breath), it is worthy of protecting and nourishing and loving. Uhhmm- I argue that once a child is *conceived* then it’s deserving of that. Big difference and one that I’m sure was intentional.

jwehman on December 17, 2012 at 9:18 AM

In Illinois Obama thought that a child that was born could still be killed if the baby happened to be born while the doctor was trying to kill it.

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

…a read of the transcript shows that the speech was as vague on solutions as most of us have felt since the shootings on Friday all of Obama’s speeches.

Fixed it.

Shump on December 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Don’t forget what a drubbing any Conservative Organization gets when they discuss sex and violence in the media.

“Turn the channel!”

“Don’t let your kids watch it!”

“Don’t impose your believes and values on the rest of us!”

Tipper Gore found out the hard way.

hawkdriver on December 17, 2012 at 8:59 AM

Violence in the media needs to be part of the conversation. It appears to have contributed to the problem in Newtown. We’ll likely know more based on the FBI’s computer forensics.

dedalus on December 17, 2012 at 9:23 AM

A memorial service is not the place or time to deliver a detailed policy speech, but don’t think for a second Obama wasn’t giving his political supporters the GO! signal. Minutes after his appearance last night I got a Facebook status update from an acquiantance who happens to be be rabidly liberal Obama supporter. The update contained a statment from that repugnant progressive/fascist Catholic priest Michale Pfleger. The have been given thier marching orders.

RobertE on December 17, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Obama likes basketball, long walks on the beach, hawaiian vacations, Dog stir fry with soy, killing Mexicans, and small booties.

Obama doesn’t like presidentin’

^Obama’s profile on cheatermeetcheaters.com^

Slade73 on December 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Hmmm over 60 shootings in the past 30 years and your country is 0 for 60 in having “those discussions should be held only after the victims have been buried and the facts known”

If you refuse to address the mental health elephant in the room then there will be more people murdered.

Your choice.

Dave Rywall on December 17, 2012 at 9:22 AM

There have also been recent mass shootings in Norway and Germany (you know – places where it’s essentially illegal to own a gun). If their socialized medicine systems aren’t sufficient then what prayer do we have?

gwelf on December 17, 2012 at 9:25 AM

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