Quotes of the day

posted at 10:40 pm on December 17, 2012 by Allahpundit

Unburdened by re-election worries and empowered by law to act without Congress, U.S. President Barack Obama could take action to improve background checks on gun buyers, ban certain gun imports and bolster oversight of dealers…

Christopher Schroeder, who ran the Justice Department’s review, said it looked at possible legislation to send to Congress as well as action the administration could take itself.

“You always look at both, because if you can do it administratively it’s certainly a less involved process,” said Schroeder, who has since returned to a professorship at Duke Law School.

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After years of arguing that Democrats should be willing to bear the political costs — lost votes in the South, in particular — of gun control measures, advocates Saturday began cautiously to make a different case. Gun control leaders and other progressive figures told BuzzFeed that, whether or not Democrats can get new legislation through Congress, they should be winning elections on the issue of guns

“For the first time in decades, Republicans are losing on social issues — they’re losing on same-sex marriage, they’re losing on contraception, and now they could lose on guns because their position is so intractable,” said Kessler. “Except for a vocal minority, people know and expect that something can be done.”

“It’s not that Democrats could do it and make some political gains,” added Mike Lux, founder of the consulting firm Progressive Strategies, and a former aide to President Bill Clinton. “It’s that they have to do it. It’s not only the base, it’s now the American people. They better damn well do it, or people will say what on earth is going on.”

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The White House is looking at various options, and the scope and details of the president’s approach aren’t clear. One possibility likely to be considered is a ban on high-capacity magazines, the devices attached to firearms that store large numbers of bullets and reload them rapidly.

A 1994 ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004 included a ban on ammunition magazines that held more than 10 rounds. Recent shootings, including the one Friday, have involved firearms with much more capacity, allowing a shooter to fire many more shots before having to reload, which could allow someone to intervene…

No White House proposal is imminent, and it remains to be seen whether it would be legislative or administrative and how hard the president would push for any legislative initiative.

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And yet those who study mass shootings say they are not becoming more common.

“There is no pattern, there is no increase,” says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston’s Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices.

The random mass shootings that get the most media attention are the rarest, Fox says. Most people who die of bullet wounds knew the identity of their killer.

Society moves on, he says, because of our ability to distance ourselves from the horror of the day, and because people believe that these tragedies are “one of the unfortunate prices we pay for our freedoms.”

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The usual argument on this point is “we need to ramp up our mental health efforts,” but that’s easier said than done. And what we’re really talking about is involuntary detainment and observation of people if they are deemed threatening by “odd behavior.” If you think seeking therapy and mental health treatment is stigmatized now, wait until the government can easily access your mental health records without your consent to determine if you’re a threat to society.

You’ll hear an argument about arming teachers, a solution that has its own problems, among them that the security at any given school will depend upon A) teachers willing to carry weapons in their classrooms and B) their ability to control a firearm at all times. The first time a teacher forgets and leaves their gun where a student can touch it, that whole policy will become the newest scapegoat.

I’m not sure that school security is really the right focus, because most schools, with their press-the-buzzer-to-enter, check in at the front office, closed-circuit television cameras, and so on, are not built to stop a determined murderer with multiple guns. Few facilities in our country are. And to be honest, I’m not quite sure I want to rearrange every school in America to be a fortress, designed to stop a determined murderer with multiple guns; the result would be the mass “TSA-ization” of American life.

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Even with Friday’s killing, 2012 will see fewer homicides at school than the typical year when I was in middle school, according to FBI data. And the data suggest that Newtown was a terrible aberration. The trend since the early-to-mid-1990s is distinctly downward…

Conservatives, eager to look for a solution aside from gun control, have begun speaking vaguely about “mental health.” Our culture, and maybe our government, could do more to address the issue. But where is this line of argument heading? Simply more funding? There’s no correlation between education spending and educational achievement. Should we expect government mental health programs to fare differently than government education programs?

Or, when we speak of “doing something about mental health,” are we talking about closer surveillance of those who might have mental illness? Or do some want government to pre-emptively detain those deemed mentally disturbed? That ought to worry civil libertarians on both the Left and Right.

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What if there is nobody or nothing to blame for Adam Lanza’s heinous acts? Other than Lanza, of course…

What if it’s too simple to lay the massacre at the feet of the gun lobby? Reader Larry Kelly tweets that shaming Aspies “makes about as much sense at stigmatizing the NRA. Pick an enemy … any enemy. Let outrage and fear rule.”

What if Lanza wasn’t provoked by video games? David Axelrod, a close friend an adviser of President Obama, tweeted last night: “In NFL post-game: an ad for shoot ‘em up video game. All for curbing weapons of war. But shouldn’t we also quit marketing murder as a game.”…

What if Lanza’s mother did everything she could, short of keeping her guns out her adult son’s reach? What if he wasn’t bullied?

What if there is nobody or nothing to blame? Would that make this inexplicable horror unbearable?

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And don’t say that it won’t make a difference because crazies will always be able to get a gun. We’re not going to eliminate gun deaths, any more than we have eliminated auto accidents. But if we could reduce gun deaths by one-third, that would be 10,000 lives saved annually.

Likewise, don’t bother with the argument that if more people carried guns, they would deter shooters or interrupt them. Mass shooters typically kill themselves or are promptly caught, so it’s hard to see what deterrence would be added by having more people pack heat. There have been few if any cases in the United States in which an ordinary citizen with a gun stopped a mass shooting.

The tragedy isn’t one school shooting, it’s the unceasing toll across our country. More Americans die in gun homicides and suicides in six months than have died in the last 25 years in every terrorist attack and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

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For once I agree with liberals. It’s high time to have a conversation about guns. Let’s start with the problem that there are far too few guns on our streets.

Wait, we can’t have that conversation. In fact, we’re not supposed to have what people might commonly describe as a “conversation” at all. We’re supposed to shut-up and listen as liberals, barely masking their unseemly delight at the opportunity, try to pin the murder rampage of one degenerate creep on millions of law-abiding Americans who did nothing wrong. The conversation is then supposed to end with us waiving our fundamental right to self-defense.

Because that is what the goal is – a total ban on the private ownership of firearms. There’s always another “common sense” gun law which fails because it is targeted at law-abiding citizens and not criminals, thereby inviting another round of onerous new restrictions until finally no citizen is keeping or bearing anything more than a dull butter knife…

Here’s the fact – bad people are going to have guns. And if you’ve ever smoked a joint, you are disqualified from arguing that prohibition works.

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“You need Wayne LaPierre or one of those guys to come to the White House meeting, and if they won’t come, the president invites them to the televised meeting, and they won’t come to say their piece in public, they should be shamed into it, and assaulted, one of the terms they like, for their lack of patriotism.”

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“I just have to say, your position completely boggles me, honestly. I just do not understand it.”


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John the Libertarian on May 24, 2013 at 2:33 AM

lolz..Good deal!..Let’s pass it on to our children and we will have completed the circle..:)

Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 2:45 AM

canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Thanks for the link friend..:)

Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 2:47 AM

Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Goodnight, Dire!

John the Libertarian on May 24, 2013 at 2:49 AM

Holy BOINK:

Moscow Shaker:

Carry On,…….Night once again Patriots:)

Update: Tremors were felt in central Moscow, prompting some people to evacuate from buildings – @AP

Submitted 5 mins ago by editor
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canopfor on May 24, 2013 at 2:50 AM

John the Libertarian on May 24, 2013 at 2:49 AM

It has been my honor..Good night..:)

Dire Straits on May 24, 2013 at 3:06 AM

Bureaucrats NEVER unilaterally undertake illegal, politically explosive operations.

The day before the IRS started attacking Americans in a bid to deny them their 1st amendment rights, Obama met at the WH with the rabidly anti-Tea Party president of the National Treasury Employees Union, Colleen Kelley. Kelley’s Union has inordinate influence within the IRS. Their meeting was not coincidental. They did not meet to exchange recipes…

The organization True the Vote was attacked by the IRS, FBI, ATF and OSHA. That degree of coordination comes from the WH. True the Vote is a Texas based organization seeking non-profit status. It’s focus is voter verification. It’s founder worked at voting stations and was appalled at the amount of voter fraud she witnessed in 2009.

True the Vote was targeted because it threatened to derail attainment of the left’s goal; Texas’ electoral college votes moving into the democrat column would guarantee effective one-party rule in America. This bid to deny American’s their 1st amendment rights came straight from Obama. Only ideological apologists and the willfully obtuse can deny it. Obama’s handprints are all over the greatest political scandal in American history.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 24, 2013 at 4:27 AM

MUST-SEE VIDEO AT BREITBART:

Wow… Just. Effin’. Wow.

<a href="http://“>Senator Obama calls for the Attorney General to step down

PointnClick on May 24, 2013 at 5:28 AM

good morning HA crew!

hope all is well for our HA family in seattle, wow just heard about the bridge collapse on I5….

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:34 AM

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:34 AM

Happy Friday, fave morning person!

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:36 AM

Obama’s previously unreported speech:

Good evening fellow travelers. Allah be with you all. Jihad is working, my Muslim brothers and sisters. We need a little more time. We have three and a half years. The national debt of the Great Satan is growing. By the end of my term America will be on her knees. We are counterfeiting American currency as fast as we can. Future generations of the Infidel will be weak and broken. Allah Akbar. Death to America. I am doing my best with Marxism. There is resistance. Well, there is no resistance from the Democrats–not surprising. We are dumbing down the children of the Infidel as fast as we can. We have full control of the public schools. We have the media. We have Hollywood. We have the unions. We are in control. America will be dead in ten years. Allah is smiling on us.

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:36 AM

aw shucks

morning Liam :)

so do we have a pool going for what the 5pm friday afternon news dump is going to be? its a holiday weekend so who knows what they’ll drop

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM

InkyBinkyBarleyBoo on May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM

+1

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:40 AM

morning Liam :)

so do we have a pool going for what the 5pm friday afternon news dump is going to be? its a holiday weekend so who knows what they’ll drop

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Whatever it is, it’s going to suck. Liberals can’t be any other way.

Hey — Did you see the Weiner thread? If you want a long laugh, the puns were flying! I bookmarked it.

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:42 AM

when dear leader makes eric holder investigate eric holder something is seriously wrong….will the lsm actually question this or just let it go with dear leader is showing leadership, he’s awesome!

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:42 AM

i did….as Ed said Drudge won the day for internet headlines…

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:45 AM

he’s awesome!

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Much the same way as a pothead saying, “I took an awesome sh*t this morning!”

Sorry that I’m not impressed.

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM

nyt praising dear leader’s terrorism speech…it was awesome, one of his best and the mj crew agrees natch

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:47 AM

yup

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:49 AM

i did….as Ed said Drudge won the day for internet headlines…

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:45 AM

Our fellows, with all their puns, had me in stitches for more than an hour. I’m a fiend for puns, and they had me laughing so hard I could barely type.

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:49 AM

:) HA rocks!!

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM

:) HA rocks!!

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM

To be sure!

Except for the trolls.

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 6:57 AM

Happy Friday, y’all!

I don’t look to a man to get pride in myself. It’s not about having a black president, it’s about having a good president, and I think that’s the most important thing.

Lt. Col. Allen West

Obama Runs the Ol’ Bait ‘n Switch “Oh, Look…Squirrel!” My take.

kingsjester on May 24, 2013 at 6:58 AM

kingsjester on May 24, 2013 at 6:58 AM

great take KJ :)

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:01 AM

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Now that it’s Friday, how about you kidnap hubby again? He’ll never expect it!

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM

mj crew following the squirrel this am KJ..only wants to talk about his speech…most important speech evah!!

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Now that it’s Friday, how about you kidnap hubby again. He’ll never expect it!

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:03 AM

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:02 AM

can’t this weekend…family stuff going on

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:04 AM

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:04 AM

Too bad Caesar’s Resorts no longer exist.

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:07 AM

so do we have a pool going for what the 5pm friday afternon news dump is going to be? its a holiday weekend so who knows what they’ll drop

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 6:38 AM

Lois Lerner, the lying Christian-hating whore, got put on paid administrative leave yesterday so it isn’t that. Nevertheless, my money is on some nagging little detail about the IRS using their authority to smite the enemies of the rat-eared coward.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM

joe is giddy, ‘this president has changed the structure on the war on terror’

oh yeah kj, they definitely have their squirrel…

Allah, it was a distraction that lasted more than 7 hours my friend….

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM

Liam on May 24, 2013 at 7:07 AM

:)

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM

good one…

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:10 AM

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:01 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on May 24, 2013 at 7:10 AM

well that was quick…all the hemming and hawing over dear leader’s actions has turned back to a lovefest for him by the lsm…

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:28 AM

This is garbage. The Journolisters are defending The Magnificent One. Of Course the Chief Executive is responsible. Suddenly IRS, Justice and WH are losing memory.

Is someone telling me that when Bengazhi was happening, Presedent wasn’t aware. Heck… State was watching it Live.

Keep drilling.

Bengazhi is the biggest Scandal.

antisocial on May 24, 2013 at 7:30 AM

antisocial on May 24, 2013 at 7:30 AM

i guess that little meeting at the wh with the lib press worked…

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:41 AM

Lois Lerner, the lying Christian-hating whore, got put on paid administrative leave yesterday so it isn’t that. Nevertheless, my money is on some nagging little detail about the IRS using their authority to smite the enemies of the rat-eared coward.

Happy Nomad on May 24, 2013 at 7:08 AM

You know its really bad news when the Friday News Dump starts on a Thursday or Wednesday… it’s been doing that for three weeks now.

And for the Special Prosecutor deal… well there is a true oversight function by Congress and it is a two-part affair. First is to find out what is going on in agencies and departments. You have to get to the bottom of things and find out what the problem is.

Part two is changing laws and budgets, with the former being the fastest and most effective as you can start axing entire sections of agencies and departments by not funding them and cutting personnel right out of the budget. If the R’s were smart and went back to the right way to budget, that is by agency or department, then this would be a precise tool to cut out rot and cancer in the government. Instead the multi-agency slush fund approach means that agencies can shift resources between themselves in the slush fund to make up for mandated losses in cash. The personnel part, however, hits no matter what. Congress can start out by saying that for every ‘I don’t know’ or ‘I can’t recall’ or ‘I only became aware of it last week’ they can cut 1% of the budget and personnel from an agency and for every 5th taken that is a 5% reduction: these people are supposed to answer questions to Congress about how they are carrying out the laws MADE by Congress. If the culture is one of deception, then the funding should start to dry up and hard.

Since the House starts the budget and has the purse strings, then that is where it must start and even with the Reidless non-budget agencies and departments look to the House for how they are to use funds. The problem now is Boehner and the House leadership being unwilling to do the hard work of by agency and department funding… which he promised to do leading into 2010 and then dropped the ball on the moment there was a Republican majority. If you want specific powers and functions cut off the place to start is the House and there the Democratic and Republican leadership are unwilling to do that. Once Upon A Time the US Congress used to be jealous of the power it held and keep everyone on a tight leash in the government. This is what happens when they get lazy and try to get the Executive to do their jobs for them.

These Congresscritters VOLUNTEER for their jobs and now seek to excuse not doing it via the abuse of power they have delegated improperly. Even to the dim bulbs lacking enough wattage to even get a glow in their heads, this needs to be stated directly to them: you wanted this job now DO IT AS YOU SAID YOU WOULD DO or QUIT and let the people find someone who is CAPABLE OF DOING IT.

ajacksonian on May 24, 2013 at 7:41 AM

ajacksonian on May 24, 2013 at 7:41 AM

well said aj

cmsinaz on May 24, 2013 at 7:47 AM

The Republicans We at the heart of low information journalism, The New York Times, are not so much looking for “the truth” as they are looking for a resonant story line

The dumbest coming out of our journalism schools do like to project, don’t they?

MNHawk on May 24, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Interesting post. I found it through a link at Physics Geek’s website:

http://www.bookwormroom.com/2013/05/18/is-the-irs-scandal-the-worst-political-scandal-in-american-history-i-say-yes/

The absolute worst scandal that’s emerged lately, and the worst administration scandal in American history is the IRS scandal. Why? Because you, the People, became the targets of a comprehensive federal government effort to stifle dissent, one made using the government’s overwhelming and disproportionate policing and taxing powers.

Fallon on May 24, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Whenever you change the founding principles of an organization you announce it’s doom!

RedLizard64 on May 24, 2013 at 10:44 AM

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