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posted at 10:40 pm on December 17, 2012 by Allahpundit

Unburdened by re-election worries and empowered by law to act without Congress, U.S. President Barack Obama could take action to improve background checks on gun buyers, ban certain gun imports and bolster oversight of dealers…

Christopher Schroeder, who ran the Justice Department’s review, said it looked at possible legislation to send to Congress as well as action the administration could take itself.

“You always look at both, because if you can do it administratively it’s certainly a less involved process,” said Schroeder, who has since returned to a professorship at Duke Law School.

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After years of arguing that Democrats should be willing to bear the political costs — lost votes in the South, in particular — of gun control measures, advocates Saturday began cautiously to make a different case. Gun control leaders and other progressive figures told BuzzFeed that, whether or not Democrats can get new legislation through Congress, they should be winning elections on the issue of guns

“For the first time in decades, Republicans are losing on social issues — they’re losing on same-sex marriage, they’re losing on contraception, and now they could lose on guns because their position is so intractable,” said Kessler. “Except for a vocal minority, people know and expect that something can be done.”

“It’s not that Democrats could do it and make some political gains,” added Mike Lux, founder of the consulting firm Progressive Strategies, and a former aide to President Bill Clinton. “It’s that they have to do it. It’s not only the base, it’s now the American people. They better damn well do it, or people will say what on earth is going on.”

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The White House is looking at various options, and the scope and details of the president’s approach aren’t clear. One possibility likely to be considered is a ban on high-capacity magazines, the devices attached to firearms that store large numbers of bullets and reload them rapidly.

A 1994 ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004 included a ban on ammunition magazines that held more than 10 rounds. Recent shootings, including the one Friday, have involved firearms with much more capacity, allowing a shooter to fire many more shots before having to reload, which could allow someone to intervene…

No White House proposal is imminent, and it remains to be seen whether it would be legislative or administrative and how hard the president would push for any legislative initiative.

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And yet those who study mass shootings say they are not becoming more common.

“There is no pattern, there is no increase,” says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston’s Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices.

The random mass shootings that get the most media attention are the rarest, Fox says. Most people who die of bullet wounds knew the identity of their killer.

Society moves on, he says, because of our ability to distance ourselves from the horror of the day, and because people believe that these tragedies are “one of the unfortunate prices we pay for our freedoms.”

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The usual argument on this point is “we need to ramp up our mental health efforts,” but that’s easier said than done. And what we’re really talking about is involuntary detainment and observation of people if they are deemed threatening by “odd behavior.” If you think seeking therapy and mental health treatment is stigmatized now, wait until the government can easily access your mental health records without your consent to determine if you’re a threat to society.

You’ll hear an argument about arming teachers, a solution that has its own problems, among them that the security at any given school will depend upon A) teachers willing to carry weapons in their classrooms and B) their ability to control a firearm at all times. The first time a teacher forgets and leaves their gun where a student can touch it, that whole policy will become the newest scapegoat.

I’m not sure that school security is really the right focus, because most schools, with their press-the-buzzer-to-enter, check in at the front office, closed-circuit television cameras, and so on, are not built to stop a determined murderer with multiple guns. Few facilities in our country are. And to be honest, I’m not quite sure I want to rearrange every school in America to be a fortress, designed to stop a determined murderer with multiple guns; the result would be the mass “TSA-ization” of American life.

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Even with Friday’s killing, 2012 will see fewer homicides at school than the typical year when I was in middle school, according to FBI data. And the data suggest that Newtown was a terrible aberration. The trend since the early-to-mid-1990s is distinctly downward…

Conservatives, eager to look for a solution aside from gun control, have begun speaking vaguely about “mental health.” Our culture, and maybe our government, could do more to address the issue. But where is this line of argument heading? Simply more funding? There’s no correlation between education spending and educational achievement. Should we expect government mental health programs to fare differently than government education programs?

Or, when we speak of “doing something about mental health,” are we talking about closer surveillance of those who might have mental illness? Or do some want government to pre-emptively detain those deemed mentally disturbed? That ought to worry civil libertarians on both the Left and Right.

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What if there is nobody or nothing to blame for Adam Lanza’s heinous acts? Other than Lanza, of course…

What if it’s too simple to lay the massacre at the feet of the gun lobby? Reader Larry Kelly tweets that shaming Aspies “makes about as much sense at stigmatizing the NRA. Pick an enemy … any enemy. Let outrage and fear rule.”

What if Lanza wasn’t provoked by video games? David Axelrod, a close friend an adviser of President Obama, tweeted last night: “In NFL post-game: an ad for shoot ‘em up video game. All for curbing weapons of war. But shouldn’t we also quit marketing murder as a game.”…

What if Lanza’s mother did everything she could, short of keeping her guns out her adult son’s reach? What if he wasn’t bullied?

What if there is nobody or nothing to blame? Would that make this inexplicable horror unbearable?

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And don’t say that it won’t make a difference because crazies will always be able to get a gun. We’re not going to eliminate gun deaths, any more than we have eliminated auto accidents. But if we could reduce gun deaths by one-third, that would be 10,000 lives saved annually.

Likewise, don’t bother with the argument that if more people carried guns, they would deter shooters or interrupt them. Mass shooters typically kill themselves or are promptly caught, so it’s hard to see what deterrence would be added by having more people pack heat. There have been few if any cases in the United States in which an ordinary citizen with a gun stopped a mass shooting.

The tragedy isn’t one school shooting, it’s the unceasing toll across our country. More Americans die in gun homicides and suicides in six months than have died in the last 25 years in every terrorist attack and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

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For once I agree with liberals. It’s high time to have a conversation about guns. Let’s start with the problem that there are far too few guns on our streets.

Wait, we can’t have that conversation. In fact, we’re not supposed to have what people might commonly describe as a “conversation” at all. We’re supposed to shut-up and listen as liberals, barely masking their unseemly delight at the opportunity, try to pin the murder rampage of one degenerate creep on millions of law-abiding Americans who did nothing wrong. The conversation is then supposed to end with us waiving our fundamental right to self-defense.

Because that is what the goal is – a total ban on the private ownership of firearms. There’s always another “common sense” gun law which fails because it is targeted at law-abiding citizens and not criminals, thereby inviting another round of onerous new restrictions until finally no citizen is keeping or bearing anything more than a dull butter knife…

Here’s the fact – bad people are going to have guns. And if you’ve ever smoked a joint, you are disqualified from arguing that prohibition works.

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“You need Wayne LaPierre or one of those guys to come to the White House meeting, and if they won’t come, the president invites them to the televised meeting, and they won’t come to say their piece in public, they should be shamed into it, and assaulted, one of the terms they like, for their lack of patriotism.”

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“I just have to say, your position completely boggles me, honestly. I just do not understand it.”


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In any case, you are beneath contempt.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Oh…I find D[ouche]Bear quite contemptible…and vile…and cowardly.

But, s/he/it’s a leftist…so that’s par for the course.

Solaratov on December 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Now though-it’s important for Aspies like me-that support the second amendment-help cut through the fog of lies and disinformation that’s been thrown out by the ignorant.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:29 AM

It really is. :)

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Naw. Just a whiny attempt at getting attention. *grin*
Btw:I’ve been commenting in different conservative FB groups, explaining that AS doesn’t make people kill…and that AS is NOT a ‘mental illness’. I’m starting to feel like a broken record.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

annoyinglittletwerp:

Since when have you,been a broken record!
—————————————–:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:32 AM

It’s amazing how some people here think gun laws are going to change because of this thing

Flapjackmaka on December 18, 2012 at 12:32 AM

My Soul Went Down Last Friday – Buchanan

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:32 AM

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM

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Naw. Just a whiny attempt at getting attention. *grin*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

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Oh, good . . . . . I feel better. (*counter grin*)
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Btw:I’ve been commenting in different conservative FB groups, explaining that AS doesn’t make people kill…and that AS is NOT a ‘mental illness’. I’m starting to feel like a broken record.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

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Yeah, does that ever sound familiar. . : (

Stay vigilant for an attempt to “institutionalize” all ASD aspies on account of this.
Just like the Japanese living here, after Pearl Harbor.

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:34 AM

Tight womens v-neck sweaters for sale.

SparkPlug on December 18, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Now to find some tight women.

Maybe at the bar…..

Solaratov on December 18, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Since when have you,been a broken record!
—————————————–:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:32 AM

If you spin her backwards, she says, Paul is dead!

– but I’m not going to do it.

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:35 AM

Be Careful With A Fool – Winter

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Resist We Much on December 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM

That giant murder trend data list is interesting and all, shows the general societal decline in crime (despite media hype) as career criminals die off or get their third strike and are incarcerated for a long time. But it is utterly distortive to compare the AWB to it.
The left deliberate conflates ALL murders with their anti-gun rhetoric.
The total number of US murders with RIFLES in 2011 was 323.
330,000,000 people.
100,000,000? rifles.
323.

2/3 of the total murders were committed with firearms.
TWICE as many people were killed with hands and feet, than with rifles.
FIVE times as many people were killed with knives than with rifles.
40% more people were killed with clubs and hammers, than with rifles.

Yet teh marxists move to strip us of our only defense agaisnt their tyranny, using 20 bloody little corpses to do it.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 12:38 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:32 AM

‘People with AS are mentally ill.’
‘People with AS are retarded.’
‘People with AS are prone to violence.’
People AS shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.’

*sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:38 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Have you seen the movie Patton..It is excellent..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:34 AM

I’m hope to purchase a handgun(for in-home protection, Liberals!) this week-before Zero signs an EO banning Aspies from exercising our right to keep and bear arms.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Since the topic of involuntarily commitment has been coming up so much lately, I present for your edification O’Conner v. Donaldson the 1975 SCOTUS case that found that “A finding of “mental illness” alone cannot justify a State’s locking a person up against their will and keeping them indefinitely in simple custodial confinement”

As the decision read:

May the State confine the mentally ill merely to ensure them a living standard superior to that they enjoy in the private community? That the State has a proper interest in providing care and assistance to the unfortunate goes without saying. But the mere presence of mental illness does not disqualify a person from preferring his home to the comforts of an institution. Moreover, while the State may arguably confine a person to save him from harm, incarceration is rarely if ever a necessary condition for raising the living standards of those capable of surviving safely in freedom, on their own or with the help of family or friends. May the State fence in the harmless mentally ill solely to save its citizens from exposure to those whose ways are different? One might as well ask if the State, to avoid public unease, could incarcerate all who are physically unattractive or socially eccentric. Mere public intolerance or animosity cannot constitutionally justify the deprivation of a person’s physical liberty. In short, a State cannot constitutionally confine without more a non-dangerous individual who is capable of surviving safely in freedom by himself or with the help of willing and responsible family members or friends. …

It was then that the institutions began releasing residents into society. Often, if they went voluntarily, into treatment centers and in-home care arrangements that provided a better life for them and cost-savings for the state. But it also led the 1980s explosion of “homelessness” for which liberals love to blame Ronald Reagan and the decision (along with the lawsuits that came with it) made it much, much more difficult to involuntarily commit someone.

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 12:40 AM

It’s all about control.

Leftists, and their useful idiots- liberals, are control freaks.
They have an unquenchable need to control every aspect of everybody’s existence- from in utero until death.
And the more extreme and outrageous their exhibition of control is, the more it satisfies their compunction to control.

Gun control is just one aspect. Using your money for what they want is another. Ridiculous things like making the sale of large soft drinks illegal? They love to force the ridiculous on people because it affirms the fact that they can control. Even abortion is a matter of control to them.
This is why government is their god- it is their means of achieving control.
This is why they want to control health care- virtually every aspect of people’s live can be twisted into a healthcare issue- ever been asked at a doctor’s visit whether you own guns? Well, you soon will be if you haven’t already.

And it is why leftist governments invariably devolve into genocide- inflicting death is the ultimate display of control.

So when you are frustrated by insane laws and regulations- from paying your fair share to what your drive to climate control to forced acceptance of depravity to sacrificing people’s livelihoods for spotted owls and snail darters to laughable minutia such as 16 ounce soda pops- realize that it’s all about satisfying the left’s insatiable desire for control.

justltl on December 18, 2012 at 12:41 AM

And it is why leftist governments invariably devolve into genocide- inflicting death is the ultimate display of control.

justltl on December 18, 2012 at 12:41 AM

Hmm.

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:44 AM

deinstitutionalization

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:45 AM

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:34 AM

.
I’m hope to purchase a handgun(for in-home protection, Liberals!) this week-before Zero signs an EO banning Aspies from exercising our right to keep and bear arms.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:40 AM

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Go for it !

You have a good instructor there, with you (your husband).

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Civility from the ‘erudite’ and ‘superior’ right.

And we should get rid of yer guns.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 12:46 AM

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:46 AM

I’m not looking to CC-at the moment. I do need some range time. It’s been quite awhile since I’ve fired anything.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:49 AM

I’ve often thought that if there were an island nation of free and happy people- the leftists of the world would simply have to destroy it. Even if that nation had no interaction, direct of indirect, with the leftists, and thus represent no legitimate source of grievance, the leftists could not tolerate the thought of their existence- because it means that there is some society out there or anything that they cannot control.

justltl on December 18, 2012 at 12:50 AM

I don’t want anyone to think that my above post is in any way saying that I think that we should just “lock up everybody.” Some of those institutions were hell-holes and I’m glad they’re gone. I’ve worked with perfectly nice Autistic men who, supposedly due to overcrowding, had been housed in a Schizophrenic ward and, by the time we got them, were exhibiting Schizophrenic behavior which we got to figure out how to exterminate.

Also the “schools” that many DD children were sent to in the ’50s and ’60s were sent to were nothing more than attention-starving warehouses where they wouldn’t even attempt to teach the children how to speak much less read and write. I got those folks as adults.

But there must be a middle path. There must be some way to take care of people who need it but don’t want it (and I’m talking the mentally ill here, not DD people or Autistics) without treating them like animals. But, of course, isn’t letting someone sleep on a park bench an urinate in public treating them like an animal already?

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 12:50 AM

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 12:50 AM

A full-bore autistic shouldn’t get a weapon either.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:32 AM

‘People with AS are mentally ill.’
‘People with AS are retarded.’
‘People with AS are prone to violence.’
People AS shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.’

*sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:38 AM

annoyinglittletrerp:

That sounds like crazy talk,and you know I`m kidding around!

To own a firearm in the US,is AsBerger a disqualification!:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:55 AM

there are basic cognitive/emotional differences between the pro- and anti-gun crowd. That is why Soledad’s mind boggles…it is literally boggling (i imagine that is must feel like seasickness) …lib/leftists can not imagine another world view

scary actually.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/12/the-case-for-more-guns-and-more-gun-control/309161/

r keller on December 17, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Shows a disturbing lack of empathy, too. For all their self-congratulating nonsense about being superior.

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 12:55 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Have you seen the movie Patton???..It is excellent..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:56 AM

That giant murder trend data list is interesting and all, shows the general societal decline in crime (despite media hype) as career criminals die off or get their third strike and are incarcerated for a long time. But it is utterly distortive to compare the AWB to it.
The left deliberate conflates ALL murders with their anti-gun rhetoric.
The total number of US murders with RIFLES in 2011 was 323.
330,000,000 people.
100,000,000? rifles.
323.

2/3 of the total murders were committed with firearms.
TWICE as many people were killed with hands and feet, than with rifles.
FIVE times as many people were killed with knives than with rifles.
40% more people were killed with clubs and hammers, than with rifles.

Yet teh marxists move to strip us of our only defense agaisnt their tyranny, using 20 bloody little corpses to do it.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 12:38 AM

If you read the post as my arguing that the AWB caused the murder rate to decrease or had any correlation whatsoever, then you missed the point entirely. On the contrary, I argue that there is more of a correlation between the spread of CCW laws and the decrease in the murder rate than there is between the AWB and the murder rate.

You might wish to read the entire piece.

Resist We Much on December 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 12:50 AM

I believe there has been abuse of the power to commit someone involuntarily in the past, also. I assume that can be alleviated by better diagnostic and screening procedures than in the past.

a capella on December 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

That sounds like crazy talk

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:55 AM

LOL — I wish I’d thought of that!

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Jetting early. I may even rocket. Either way, later, froods.

*poof*

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:58 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Have you seen the movie Patton..It is excellent..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Dire Straits:

Yes,many times,I seen it in the theatre.

And,the Dirty Dozen,Battle of the Package,er Bulge,I mean (sarc).
Battle of Britain,and other greats!:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:59 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Have you seen the movie Patton???..It is excellent..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:56 AM

We visited here on our way home from CA in Jan.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:59 AM

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Goodnight, Axe. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:00 AM

Jetting early. I may even rocket. Either way, later, froods.

*poof*

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:58 AM

Axe:I do like to use humour,and Nite Axe:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 1:00 AM

a capella on December 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

That power can be abused. No…I won’t elaborate.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:00 AM

A full-bore autistic shouldn’t get a weapon either.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Well,yes. But the autistics that I have worked with wouldn’t know what to do with a gun anyway (none of them were as fun as Rainman). But how would one enforce such a law? Are people’s diagnoses a matter of public record that has to be checked by gun dealers? Because then I’d think you’d rub into HIPAA and disabled-rights issues.

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Correction

And we should get rid of yer our guns.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 12:46 AM

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 1:02 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM

Have you seen the movie Patton???..It is excellent..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:39 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:56 AM

Dire Straits:Lol,and I`m off too,Nite Dire!:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Resist We Much on December 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

Yep. As those states turn blue, it just keeps dropping.

a capella on December 18, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Otay everyone,I`ve gots the urge to play Call of Duty Black Ops!

Nite EveryOne——————————:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 1:04 AM

A full-bore autistic shouldn’t get a weapon either.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM

Well at least they shouldn’t get a full-bore weapon.

SparkPlug on December 18, 2012 at 1:04 AM

Night Canada

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 1:04 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 1:02 AM

Later..Enjoyed it as always..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM

But there must be a middle path. There must be some way to take care of people who need it but don’t want it (and I’m talking the mentally ill here, not DD people or Autistics) without treating them like animals. But, of course, isn’t letting someone sleep on a park bench an urinate in public treating them like an animal already?

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 12:50 AM

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A “different” path, to be sure (not necessarily “middle”).

But it can only be done right, by people of FAITH. That means getting the government out of it.

I have a family of people who need help, but won’t acknowledge it.
I’m certain it all has to do with the fear of stigma.

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM

The End Is Not In Sight -

Amazing Rhythm Aces

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM

Within weeks of 0care passing, programs that provided care for folks with mental illness, started being dismantled. Folks this is a fact and consequence of 0care. I have seen it first hand with my own two eyes.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:06 AM

Good Night Axe, Sleep Well. Pleasant flight.; )

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:07 AM

I believe there has been abuse of the power to commit someone involuntarily in the past, also. I assume that can be alleviated by better diagnostic and screening procedures than in the past.

a capella on December 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

But the Supremes say you can’t involuntary commit someone unless they are a threat to themselves or others, and that can be very hard to prove. Heck, it sounds like this latest maniac had been tested and no one saw him as a threat anyway.

It’s difficult to prove that someone will be violent without them ever having committed a serious violent act. And by then it is sometimes too late.

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Good Night Friend to the North, Sleep Well.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:08 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:59 AM

That sounds like a cool museum..:)

PS..I hope you and your family are doing good..:)

PSS..Are you going to visit Chicago anytime soon??..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:09 AM

got a line on 30 round mags and have all their stock in my cart… can’t pull the trigger

tom daschle concerned on December 18, 2012 at 1:09 AM

After years of arguing that Democrats should be willing to bear the political costs — lost votes in the South, in particular — of gun control measures, advocates Saturday began cautiously to make a different case.

Go ahead. Make my day.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on December 18, 2012 at 1:10 AM

Rough And Ready – Trace Adkins

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:10 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:53 AM

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Are people’s diagnoses a matter of public record that has to be checked by gun dealers? Because then I’d think you’d rub into HIPAA and disabled-rights issues.

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM

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BINGO . . . . . . . but then again, there’s no legal problem that can’t “solved” by an EO. . : (

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:08 AM

Good evening, Bmore. :)

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:12 AM

Sleepy Lagoon – Harry James

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:14 AM

PSS..Are you going to visit Chicago anytime soon??..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:09 AM

I’m hoping to fly in for a day in late Feb-early March to see a friend. No-I’m far from wealthy-but by flying I don’t have to take days off+I can sleep @ the airport.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Jetting early. I may even rocket. Either way, later, froods.

*poof*

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:58 AM

That Axe is one Frood who really knows where his towel is… ;)

SWalker on December 18, 2012 at 1:15 AM

a hoopy frood

tom daschle concerned on December 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM

‘People with AS are mentally ill.’
‘People with AS are retarded.’
‘People with AS are prone to violence.’
People AS shouldn’t be allowed to own guns.’

*sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Is it your asbergers that drives you to contest every single mention of it? I ask seriously, wondering what the degree of overlap is between OCD and asbergers?

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM

BINGO . . . . . . . but then again, there’s no legal problem that can’t “solved” by an EO. . : (

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 1:12 AM

I said ‘full-bore’ because there’s EONS of difference between an autistic and an Aspie. John Elder Robison-who sold his soul to those worthless vermin over @ ‘Autism Speaks’-is very pro-gun.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:17 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:15 AM

Sounds like a plan..Is the train an option??..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:17 AM

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 1:07 AM

My second cousin on my dad’s side was about my age and we grew up as close buddies,..in fact, he sang at our wedding.
He married a great gal, had a couple of nice kids, and seemed to be doing well. We lost track of each other, but the next thing I knew he had divorced his wife and disappeared…to live on the street. My wife ran into his exwife at a funeral and she said he had been battling a mental illness and suddenly decided to stop taking the medication. Nothing they could do. She said their daughter had written him begging him to come to her wedding, but, they never heard back from him. They thought he might be living in Miami on the street. I want to find out what happened to him…kind of afraid to ask, but it is on my to do list as I clean up loose ends in the later stages of life.

a capella on December 18, 2012 at 1:17 AM

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM

The monster that shot up the school was supposedly an Aspie. There are now people that think that ALL Aspies are crazed monsters in the making. They are wrong. THAT is why I am so focused on it. Normally, I would not be.
Get it now ?

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Sounds like a plan..Is the train an option??..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:17 AM

This is Lubbock

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:20 AM

There’s a swimming hole on a lake that’s clear, emerald green.
I think of it often, though I’ve never been there.
I saw it in a photo once, a friend showed it to me.
I long to climb down the massive rocks that frame it, slip into that cool green water, and drift there… floating on my back…dreaming.

Perhaps one day, I will.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Evening Jackie. It’s guns, guns, guns. Stacking em deep and selling em cheap!

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Well goodnight all. Out of here for the evening.

AZfederalist on December 18, 2012 at 1:25 AM

It’s a nice place. A world away from the rest of the world. Spring will be here before we know it. The healing waters.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:25 AM

This is Lubbock…

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Sorry..I didn’t know that no “people train” runs thru Lubbock..:)

PS..Just stay away from the Bus..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Serenata – Harry James/Paul Wesston

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Good Night AZ, Sleep Well.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:26 AM

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:22 AM

Got three more for Christmas and stocked up on ammunition, too. Well provisioned here. :)

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:27 AM

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:20 AM

Here is an idea for you..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:29 AM

J, scroll down.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 1:29 AM

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:29 AM

What a great tune… and suggestion! I love to swim at night. Usually I content myself with a pool, but I also love to swim in nice lakes, too. Looking up at the stars while you’re floating on the water is wonderful. :)

Do you enjoy swimming, Dire?

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:31 AM

If you read the post as my arguing that the AWB caused the murder rate to decrease or had any correlation whatsoever, then you missed the point entirely. On the contrary, I argue that there is more of a correlation between the spread of CCW laws and the decrease in the murder rate than there is between the AWB and the murder rate.

You might wish to read the entire piece.

Resist We Much on December 18, 2012 at 12:57 AM

I didn’t think that at all, I’m saying we shouldn’t make the mistake of granting THEIR premise, that ‘evil black rifles’ are butchering everybody (inflated by their always citing ALL murders, when rifles only account for 2.5% of all murders)

Besides all that, despite the raw number and the left’s incessant howling about gun crime in america, our murder rate per capita is something like 107th the world. Yet WE’RE protrayed as bloodthirsty.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:32 AM

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 1:29 AM

That’s beautiful! It also looks remarkably similar to the place I was describing. Thank you for that, Schadenfreude. I bookmarked it.

I’d very much like to walk in the forest to a similar pool with you one day. Perhaps a nice dinner near the forest pool. I’m sure I’d enjoy the company and the meal very much.:)

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:35 AM

Well,yes. But the autistics that I have worked with wouldn’t know what to do with a gun anyway (none of them were as fun as Rainman). But how would one enforce such a law? Are people’s diagnoses a matter of public record that has to be checked by gun dealers? Because then I’d think you’d rub into HIPAA and disabled-rights issues.

29Victor on December 18, 2012 at 1:01 AM

Simple Define it as a public health matter. Use Tuberculosis as regulation / procedure model. Physicians are required to report individuals with certain illnesses injurious to the public health.
If there was ever a non-subjective way to evaluate such mental patients, it could be done. That sort of thing blows right by HIPAA already.

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:36 AM

It’s Been A Long Long Time – Harry James/Helen Forrest

I just love Harry James… can’t you tell?lol!

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:37 AM

Do you enjoy swimming, Dire?

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Yes I do enjoy swimming..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:38 AM

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:16 AM

The monster that shot up the school was supposedly an Aspie. There are now people that think that ALL Aspies are crazed monsters in the making. They are wrong. THAT is why I am so focused on it. Normally, I would not be.
Get it now ?

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:19 AM

Never a question of ‘getting’ it, I was wondering what was driving the full-bore behaviour.

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:39 AM

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:38 AM

Good evening to you, as well! Swimming is such a wonderful way to stay fit and such fun, too. :)

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:40 AM

I Don’t Want To Walk Without You – James/Forrest

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:41 AM

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:39 AM

In 2003, when I was first diagnosed and starting to ‘come out’-people would start speaking to me in little words when I explained my AS. They thought that all ‘autistics’ were the same.
Sorry-just a little bit on the defensive right now. It’ll pass.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:42 AM

Notice that Soledad(‘s producers) made sure to introduce Lott’s book title and immediately follow it with NUTshell. Gramscian bastards.

rayra on December 18, 2012 at 1:43 AM

Moonlight In Vermont – Jo Stafford

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Dire Straits, QOTD song. Consequence.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Jalousie Tango tzigane – 1929

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 1:52 AM

Just so you know dire, I am having to post this tune blind and deaf. Consequence

Hope that worked better than the first attempt. ; ).

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:50 AM

Good evening ..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Just so you know Dire, I am having to post this tune blind and deaf. Consequence

Hope that worked better than the first attempt. ; ).

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Fixed! : )

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:56 AM

I posted this yesterday. It’s my new rally/theme song.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:54 AM

I see where you are going..:)

PS..Nice tune..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 1:56 AM

Evening Dire. Did the link work? Was it a tune?

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:57 AM

Oh good it worked. ; )

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 1:58 AM

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