Quotes of the day

posted at 10:40 pm on December 17, 2012 by Allahpundit

Unburdened by re-election worries and empowered by law to act without Congress, U.S. President Barack Obama could take action to improve background checks on gun buyers, ban certain gun imports and bolster oversight of dealers…

Christopher Schroeder, who ran the Justice Department’s review, said it looked at possible legislation to send to Congress as well as action the administration could take itself.

“You always look at both, because if you can do it administratively it’s certainly a less involved process,” said Schroeder, who has since returned to a professorship at Duke Law School.

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After years of arguing that Democrats should be willing to bear the political costs — lost votes in the South, in particular — of gun control measures, advocates Saturday began cautiously to make a different case. Gun control leaders and other progressive figures told BuzzFeed that, whether or not Democrats can get new legislation through Congress, they should be winning elections on the issue of guns

“For the first time in decades, Republicans are losing on social issues — they’re losing on same-sex marriage, they’re losing on contraception, and now they could lose on guns because their position is so intractable,” said Kessler. “Except for a vocal minority, people know and expect that something can be done.”

“It’s not that Democrats could do it and make some political gains,” added Mike Lux, founder of the consulting firm Progressive Strategies, and a former aide to President Bill Clinton. “It’s that they have to do it. It’s not only the base, it’s now the American people. They better damn well do it, or people will say what on earth is going on.”

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The White House is looking at various options, and the scope and details of the president’s approach aren’t clear. One possibility likely to be considered is a ban on high-capacity magazines, the devices attached to firearms that store large numbers of bullets and reload them rapidly.

A 1994 ban on assault weapons that expired in 2004 included a ban on ammunition magazines that held more than 10 rounds. Recent shootings, including the one Friday, have involved firearms with much more capacity, allowing a shooter to fire many more shots before having to reload, which could allow someone to intervene…

No White House proposal is imminent, and it remains to be seen whether it would be legislative or administrative and how hard the president would push for any legislative initiative.

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And yet those who study mass shootings say they are not becoming more common.

“There is no pattern, there is no increase,” says criminologist James Allen Fox of Boston’s Northeastern University, who has been studying the subject since the 1980s, spurred by a rash of mass shootings in post offices.

The random mass shootings that get the most media attention are the rarest, Fox says. Most people who die of bullet wounds knew the identity of their killer.

Society moves on, he says, because of our ability to distance ourselves from the horror of the day, and because people believe that these tragedies are “one of the unfortunate prices we pay for our freedoms.”

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The usual argument on this point is “we need to ramp up our mental health efforts,” but that’s easier said than done. And what we’re really talking about is involuntary detainment and observation of people if they are deemed threatening by “odd behavior.” If you think seeking therapy and mental health treatment is stigmatized now, wait until the government can easily access your mental health records without your consent to determine if you’re a threat to society.

You’ll hear an argument about arming teachers, a solution that has its own problems, among them that the security at any given school will depend upon A) teachers willing to carry weapons in their classrooms and B) their ability to control a firearm at all times. The first time a teacher forgets and leaves their gun where a student can touch it, that whole policy will become the newest scapegoat.

I’m not sure that school security is really the right focus, because most schools, with their press-the-buzzer-to-enter, check in at the front office, closed-circuit television cameras, and so on, are not built to stop a determined murderer with multiple guns. Few facilities in our country are. And to be honest, I’m not quite sure I want to rearrange every school in America to be a fortress, designed to stop a determined murderer with multiple guns; the result would be the mass “TSA-ization” of American life.

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Even with Friday’s killing, 2012 will see fewer homicides at school than the typical year when I was in middle school, according to FBI data. And the data suggest that Newtown was a terrible aberration. The trend since the early-to-mid-1990s is distinctly downward…

Conservatives, eager to look for a solution aside from gun control, have begun speaking vaguely about “mental health.” Our culture, and maybe our government, could do more to address the issue. But where is this line of argument heading? Simply more funding? There’s no correlation between education spending and educational achievement. Should we expect government mental health programs to fare differently than government education programs?

Or, when we speak of “doing something about mental health,” are we talking about closer surveillance of those who might have mental illness? Or do some want government to pre-emptively detain those deemed mentally disturbed? That ought to worry civil libertarians on both the Left and Right.

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What if there is nobody or nothing to blame for Adam Lanza’s heinous acts? Other than Lanza, of course…

What if it’s too simple to lay the massacre at the feet of the gun lobby? Reader Larry Kelly tweets that shaming Aspies “makes about as much sense at stigmatizing the NRA. Pick an enemy … any enemy. Let outrage and fear rule.”

What if Lanza wasn’t provoked by video games? David Axelrod, a close friend an adviser of President Obama, tweeted last night: “In NFL post-game: an ad for shoot ‘em up video game. All for curbing weapons of war. But shouldn’t we also quit marketing murder as a game.”…

What if Lanza’s mother did everything she could, short of keeping her guns out her adult son’s reach? What if he wasn’t bullied?

What if there is nobody or nothing to blame? Would that make this inexplicable horror unbearable?

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And don’t say that it won’t make a difference because crazies will always be able to get a gun. We’re not going to eliminate gun deaths, any more than we have eliminated auto accidents. But if we could reduce gun deaths by one-third, that would be 10,000 lives saved annually.

Likewise, don’t bother with the argument that if more people carried guns, they would deter shooters or interrupt them. Mass shooters typically kill themselves or are promptly caught, so it’s hard to see what deterrence would be added by having more people pack heat. There have been few if any cases in the United States in which an ordinary citizen with a gun stopped a mass shooting.

The tragedy isn’t one school shooting, it’s the unceasing toll across our country. More Americans die in gun homicides and suicides in six months than have died in the last 25 years in every terrorist attack and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq combined.

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For once I agree with liberals. It’s high time to have a conversation about guns. Let’s start with the problem that there are far too few guns on our streets.

Wait, we can’t have that conversation. In fact, we’re not supposed to have what people might commonly describe as a “conversation” at all. We’re supposed to shut-up and listen as liberals, barely masking their unseemly delight at the opportunity, try to pin the murder rampage of one degenerate creep on millions of law-abiding Americans who did nothing wrong. The conversation is then supposed to end with us waiving our fundamental right to self-defense.

Because that is what the goal is – a total ban on the private ownership of firearms. There’s always another “common sense” gun law which fails because it is targeted at law-abiding citizens and not criminals, thereby inviting another round of onerous new restrictions until finally no citizen is keeping or bearing anything more than a dull butter knife…

Here’s the fact – bad people are going to have guns. And if you’ve ever smoked a joint, you are disqualified from arguing that prohibition works.

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“You need Wayne LaPierre or one of those guys to come to the White House meeting, and if they won’t come, the president invites them to the televised meeting, and they won’t come to say their piece in public, they should be shamed into it, and assaulted, one of the terms they like, for their lack of patriotism.”

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“I just have to say, your position completely boggles me, honestly. I just do not understand it.”


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DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Your premises are all wrong, you utter fool.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:44 PM

DoucheBear aint to bright, it don’t understand, “A right you cannot exercise is a right you do not have”. It don’t understand what a “Right” is or where “Rights” originate, so your questions are hurting it’s poor little head.

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

oh yeah, build your arsenal so you can live out your fantasy of going to war against the govt. someday. Before u could even grab a weapon though beware that buzz above your head let’s see how you defend yourself against a drone, wing nut

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

I am saying you are all bloodthirsty, war-mongering evil people who cloak yourselves in your phony religion to somehow be able to live with yourselves.

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

DBear:

Your talking about Progressive Socialists!

canopfor on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Ya know,the Lib/ProgTards are going after every thing that makes
America,America,and the Left are in WE WON,WERE GONNA WEAR YOU
OUT Conservatives Operational Mode,

TILL THE CHANGE THAT WE WANT HAPPENS!!

canopfor on December 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM

And those who should be guarding the gates—repubs, are opening them up and throwing rose petals down for the conquerors.

arnold ziffel on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

I don’t think he was serious, why do you?
Corporal Tunnel on December 17, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I was serious. His premises are all wrong, though.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:46 PM

gotta love the good christian folk at hot air! the nation is grieving these beautiful children and you sick people are fantasizing about beheadings, religious war and stockpiling more weapons of destruction.

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Not everyone can sniff glue and browse p0rn while listening to garage rock like our enlightened liberal brethren such as yourself. We have our own, baser hobbies to amuse ourselves with.

Archivarix on December 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM

there are basic cognitive/emotional differences between the pro- and anti-gun crowd. That is why Soledad’s mind boggles…it is literally boggling (i imagine that is must feel like seasickness) …lib/leftists can not imagine another world view

scary actually.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/12/the-case-for-more-guns-and-more-gun-control/309161/

r keller on December 17, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I think it literally comes from never having faced anyone who honestly didn’t give a crap if they killed them. Having never faced such an individual, they think such individuals must be very rare and can not grasp just how common they really are.

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM

One possibility likely to be considered is a ban on high-capacity magazines, the devices attached to firearms that store large numbers of bullets and reload them rapidly.

ROFL

Where do they get this stuff? It’s like nomenclature developed by some geek who got his information from an old Sgt. Fury comic book.

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM

When you take my butter knife from dead cold hands… huh what?

Scrumpy on December 17, 2012 at 10:44 PM

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc85/Mamba1-0/spork.jpg

Solaratov on December 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Soldiers are mainly wingnuts. They are our sons, siblings, parents. The generals are mostly traitors, out for the 4th star. The Soldiers are not.

In the East bloc world the soldiers got rid of the tyrants, fool.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:48 PM

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

oh yeah, build your arsenal so you can live out your fantasy of going to war against the govt. someday. Before u could even grab a weapon though beware that buzz above your head let’s see how you defend yourself against a drone, wing nut

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

ROTFLMAO… Hey stupid, I used to build those drones.

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

***********Alert **************

A Delaware teenager who brought a loaded gun to school is facing multiple weapons charges – @6abc

12 mins ago from abclocal.go.com by editor
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Updated at 11:32 PM today

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=8924154&cmp=twi-wpvi-article-8924154

canopfor on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

We have our own, baser hobbies to amuse ourselves with.

Archivarix on December 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM

You are all Mrs. Lanza

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

gotta love the good christian folk at hot air!…. you sick people are fantasizing about beheadings….

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:35 PM

just yours!

KOOLAID2 on December 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Gun crimes are down. There are no more mass murders today than their were 44 years ago, despite a much larger population. Chicago has some of the most stringent gun control laws in the nation, and one of the leading violent crime rates involving guns.

I’d like to point out that it was the LEFT, the Kennedy’s, who decided that closing the mental hospitals and turning most of those who were patients there onto the streets was a great idea.

The notion was that these mentally ill people, with the exception of the worst, most obvious cases who literally had, at that moment, to be prevented from harming others and themselves, could be treated as outpatients.

These patients would be allowed to lead ‘normal lives’ for all intents and purposes, including deciding whether or not to see a psychiatrist, and whether or not to take their medications.

Consequently, we’ve had a steady spate of crimes committed by persons whom those around them later confessed knew that they should have been in treatment and supervision. In other words, in the hospital receiving the treatment they so desperately, and obviously, needed.

Loughner, Holmes, and Lanza, all were known to have deep seated psychological problems and two of them were already supposed to be on medication that they’d failed to take at the time of the commission of their respective atrocities.

These, however, are only those who make the headlines. How many murders and other violent crimes are committed by people suffering from known psychological problems, how many suicides are committed by people with known deep seated psychological disturbances? None of whom received the supervised treatment they obviously required.

How compassionate is it to leave people untreated, unsupervised, unattended, to their own devices, who desperately need help? How foolish is it to insist that people who have these issues can be responsible enough to take medication as instructed and voluntarily see their doctor on schedule?

It is time to address the issue of the untreated mentally ill in this nation. This is not a ‘guns’ issue. This is a mental health issue.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM

I am saying you are all bloodthirsty, war-mongering evil people who cloak yourselves in your phony religion to somehow be able to live with yourselves. The reason you all want to carry guns so bad? because you are all psychopaths just wanting, waning to kill someone

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Your premises are all wrong.

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Before u could even grab a weapon though beware that buzz above your head let’s see how you defend yourself against a drone, wing nut

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Coincidentally enough those same drones are seeing increased domestic use with the approval of the current Preznit.

And here I thought it was Dubya who was hell-bent on creating a constant-surveillance police state….at least that’s what I remember hearing from the MorOn.org crowd back in the day.

Yep, back in the day.

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:52 PM

You are all Mrs. Lanza

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

LIAR

We are free people and you are in bondage, you utter fool.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 17, 2012 at 11:52 PM

You are all Mrs. Lanza

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

O_O..loser..

Dire Straits on December 17, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 17, 2012 at 11:52 PM

The GOPe Betrayed us… :(

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM

oh yeah, build your arsenal so you can live out your fantasy of going to war against the govt. someday. Before u could even grab a weapon though beware that buzz above your head let’s see how you defend yourself against a drone, wing nut

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

It would be illegal for the Federal government to use a drone on US soil. Of course, when has that kind of thing stopped a Democratic President?

Woodrow Wilson locked up German-Americans, suffragettes, homosexuals, socialists, pacifists, isolationists, antiwar protestors, dissidents, and even a filmmaker, who made a movie that depicted the British army in a negative light — the British Army during the AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR.

FDR sent Japanese-Americans, along with some Italian-Americans and German-Americans, to internment camps and stole their property.

Clinton sent tanks in to a compound in Waco killing dozens.

Obama has drawn up his own kill list without any oversight whatsoever and assassinated American citizens, depriving them of their due process and constitutional rights.

So, I guess, what’s a drone strike in Kansas matter for the King?

THIS
guy has a question for you.

Resist We Much on December 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM

It is time to address the issue of the untreated mentally ill in this nation. This is not a ‘guns’ issue. This is a mental health issue.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM

The ACLU and DBear will come git ya.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Why are you so afraid?

Bmore on December 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Greetings…again.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM

You are all Mrs. Lanza

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

And you’re Mohammed Atta.

sentinelrules on December 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Why would you choose to associate with a bunch of psychotic gun nut murderer enablers like hang out here anyway?

LegendHasIt on December 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM

It is time to address the issue of the untreated mentally ill in this nation. This is not a ‘guns’ issue. This is a mental health issue.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM

…very good post!…the problem is that the government inmates are running the asylum!

KOOLAID2 on December 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I am saying you are all bloodthirsty, war-mongering evil people who cloak yourselves in your phony religion to somehow be able to live with yourselves. The reason you all want to carry guns so bad? because you are all psychopaths just wanting, waning to kill someone

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Agreed. And all homosexuals are child predators in the mold of Sandusky, all urban blacks are gang-bangers, and all liberals hate soldiers.

This is a fun game, what do you call it?

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM

You are all Mrs. Lanza

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

You are terrorist-lover Obama.

See surveillance drones against you and Libya, Syria, Egypt, to name just a few.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:56 PM

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

Dang DBear you seem even more unbalanced than usual. Certainly you aren’t wishing anyone here be harmed are you?

Bmore on December 17, 2012 at 11:56 PM

This is a fun game, what do you call it?

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM

I think it’s called “Painting by Liberal Numbers”

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:56 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 17, 2012 at 11:52 PM

Hello sir, this is how I feel today.

OK not everyone, just most.

arnold ziffel on December 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:35 PM

You like calling others who’ve done you no harm names?

Well then… you, Dbear, are a gutless, cowardly, miserable little cur who comes to this forum to spit and snarl in an attempt to belie your own utter impotence.

You have no intention of forming a persuasive argument to make your case. So far as I can tell you have no cogent argument or point to make, other than you want to reach out and take a cowardly swipe at people with whom you, at least pretend, to disagree.

I’m beginning to believe the you suffer from some psychological disturbance which drives you to these ends.

In any case, you are beneath contempt.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2012 at 11:58 PM

canopfor on December 17, 2012 at 11:05 PM

And those who should be guarding the gates—repubs, are opening them up and throwing rose petals down for the conquerors.

arnold ziffel on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

arnold ziffel:Ugh,yup:)

canopfor on December 17, 2012 at 11:58 PM

This is a fun game, what do you call it?

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Issues™?

Bmore on December 17, 2012 at 11:58 PM

Why would you choose to associate with a bunch of psychotic gun nut murderer enablers like hang out here anyway?

LegendHasIt on December 17, 2012 at 11:54 PM

Communist anarchist, like the shooter of those poor kids.

Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 17, 2012 at 11:52 PM

The GOPe Betrayed us… :(

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM

:)

Axe on December 17, 2012 at 11:59 PM

Just watched the Soladad Clip. What a friggin idiot. God help us all with “reporters” like her.

Barred on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I am saying you are all bloodthirsty, war-mongering evil people who cloak yourselves in your phony religion to somehow be able to live with yourselves. The reason you all want to carry guns so bad? because you are all psychopaths just wanting, waning to kill someone

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

This is the caricature of a Conservative that has been imprinted on the mind of a typical Liberal/Left-Winger. There is no way to have a rational conversation with someone who really lives and breathes this deeply.

It’s a distorted view of humanity in general, not just a distorted view of those they disagree with. This is why Liberals think people, and especially Conservatives should be controlled, because deep down they believe we are all animals.

That is why this nation if fractious and divided beyond repair. The Left will never compromise and agree to quit fighting, to quit demonizing and dividing Americans until they get everything they want, which is complete control.

That is why they must be defeated.

Corporal Tunnel on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

The reason you all want to carry guns so bad? because you are all psychopaths just wanting, waning to kill someone

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Maybe we just want to protect ourselves from this type of person:

“The thing the most bone chilling thing Bill Ayers said was that after the revolution succeeded and the government was overthrown, they believed they would have to eliminate 25 million Americans who would not conform to the new order.”

Hey wait a second…wasn’t there a famous politician who knows this freak, who held political fundraisers in his very house? What was that pols name again?

Bishop on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

One possibility likely to be considered is a ban on high-capacity magazines, the devices attached to firearms that store large numbers of bullets and reload them rapidly.

ROFL

Where do they get this stuff? It’s like nomenclature developed by some geek who got his information from an old Sgt. Fury comic book.

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:47 PM

Bishop:

An invisible Gun Crew me thinks!:)
(sarc)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

It is time to address the issue of the untreated mentally ill in this nation. This is not a ‘guns’ issue. This is a mental health issue.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Nice volley. :)

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Thank you. You’re in good form this evening, as well.:)

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:02 AM

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

I have a friend that may be able to help you with that. His name is Roy Jr. He’s been aiming to introduce himself to you. Would you like to meet him? I’ll have him meet you at the gate DBear. The red one.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Right wing nut jobs like Lanza’s mom have made this country a very dangerous place. Hope you all take a look within.

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Left wing nut jobs like Loughner have made this country a very dangerous place. Hope all you leftists take a look within.

[As for me, I'll just keep carrying the .45]

Solaratov on December 18, 2012 at 12:02 AM

Hey wait a second…wasn’t there a famous politician who knows this freak, who held political fundraisers in his very house? What was that pols name again?

Bishop on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Bishop:


Do you mean the Guy who ate Dog Meat,
or the Guy that wrote Obama`s book!

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:04 AM

The Liberals want a gun ban, I have a compromise for them. Let’s start with a 100 percent complete ban of firearms ownership for every single individual employed by the Federal Government.

SWalker on December 18, 2012 at 12:05 AM

You are all Mrs. Lanza

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

You are all the son?

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Remember that story in the news a short time ago about the new 3D computer printer that can create a gun? A printer like that should easily be able to fashion high-capacity magazines with the addition of an appropriate spring.

But if they are illegal then only criminals will be able to use them in a confrontation. Even if law abiding citizens has high-caps in their possession they can’t use them for self defense without fear of being prosecuted by scumbag Democrats.

But Democrats can’t stop criminals from getting high-caps, they can just download one from the internet and print it on their 3D printer or design and print their own. That horse is out of the barn, all the Democrats can hope to accomplish with a ban on high-caps is to stop law abiding citizens from using them for self defense.

FloatingRock on December 18, 2012 at 12:06 AM

But Soledad just outright admits her epistemic closure.

BCrago66 on December 17, 2012 at 11:23 PM

What a diplomatic way to say she is not afraid to admit she is an idiot. Not ill-informed or ignorant, then she could become educated. No, she is happy to admit she’s an idiot and willing to remain so.

AZfederalist on December 18, 2012 at 12:07 AM

This is a fun game, what do you call it?

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM

Bishop:

Progressive Gun PerVerting ProJectionIsm!!

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:08 AM

whatever we do, i’m sure the politicians are bright enough to do what is in our best interest

/s

…just like Ray Nagin’s buses in NOLA, we have another moron of the year award

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2012/12/questions_surface_over_nj_tran.html

100M in train stuff left in rail yard…as Sandy moved in. But in barry’s world, what’s another 0.1B…rounding error

but left/libs love their pols, their hacks and their media cuties

r keller on December 18, 2012 at 12:08 AM

That is why they must be defeated.
Corporal Tunnel on December 18, 2012 at 12:00 AM

Starve the Looters. In turn they’ll have to starve the stupid moochers.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 12:09 AM

(.\/.)

Tight womens v-neck sweaters for sale.

SparkPlug on December 18, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Progressives can’t stop people from doing anything… coming into the nation illegally and shattering our laws… doing drugs including crack, heroine, and ice…killing one another in the inner cities willy nilly… you name it…

… because progressives won’t stand up for any law… except the one they happen to be hiding behind at any given moment.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:10 AM

The GOPe Betrayed us… :(

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Very depressing.
They will ban guns without any proof whatsoever that it will help matters, and despite much proof that guns protect homeowners and that concealed carry reduces violent crime.

They will not knock down your door and rush in to take your guns.
They will continue to do it incrementally (with spurts afforded to them by tragic events like Sandy Hook). They will begin by making it illegal for dealers to sell scary-looking guns and regular capacity magazines. What dealer will want to go out of business by resisting them? They will make the purchase of such guns and magazines a felony. What citizen wants a felony on their record?

I despise these control freaks.
Can we not get a divorce yet?

justltl on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM

This is a fun game, what do you call it?

Bishop on December 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM

HoldMeI’mSoooooSkeeredOfBigBlackGunsWithCosmeticChangesThatMakeThemLookLikeWeaponsOfWar™

Dear Obama Clause,

I’ve been a real, good boy. Please bring me a Kyoto Celebration Barbie and Barbie & Friend’s Eco-Beach Dream House made of 100% Recycled Paper/Wood/Hemp with the 1-Square-Green Toilet/Compost Regenerator that produces renewable meat for Winter Solistice.

And, I would also like the ObamaDolt in BarackaBlue with the shasta daisy seats and the peace sign bonnet ornament.

Love, DBear

Resist We Much on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM

(.|.)

This sweater has a zipper so you can adjust the amount of cleavage you want to display for that special man in your life.

SparkPlug on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM

We go back to Patton!
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Part II

The Speech

Somewhere in England

June 5th, 1944
**************

Patton paused, took a deep breath, and continued, “Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don’t want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men

http://www.pattonhq.com/speech.html

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM

FloatingRock on December 18, 2012 at 12:06 AM

Here you go, just to annoy DBear more.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM

arnold ziffel on December 17, 2012 at 11:57 PM

I hear you.:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Oh yeah, BTW, all 3 online sites that I use for PMAG purchases went out of stock overnight, I got an email from one saying he sold 200+ in an hour.

Good luck, lefties, the rest of us learned our lesson from the first ban: Stock up early and big.

Bishop on December 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Wait…

Right wing nut jobs like Lanza’s mom have made this country a very dangerous place. Hope you all take a look within.
DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:17 PM

How do you know that Mama Lanza is a RIGHT wing nutjob?
She could be an anarcho-communist nutjob just like her son; and she built ‘an arsenal’ just in case Romney won and the Senate flipped to republicans.

You make a lot of ASSumptions.

LegendHasIt on December 18, 2012 at 12:12 AM

((.||.))

This one is for the more buxom gals.

SparkPlug on December 18, 2012 at 12:14 AM

I am saying you are all bloodthirsty, war-mongering evil people who cloak yourselves in your phony religion to somehow be able to live with yourselves. The reason you all want to carry guns so bad? because you are all psychopaths just wanting, waning to kill someone

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Yeah, I heard that “Conservative Christian” threaten to shoot Steven Crowder with his gun last week in Lansing.

Projection: It’s what’s for breakfast, lunch and dinner with DBear.

Resist We Much on December 18, 2012 at 12:15 AM

It’s amazing to me that the progressives will tell you that if you legalize drugs all the attendant crime related to drug trade and use will disappear…

.. and in the next breath tell you that if you criminalize guns all the crimes committed with guns will disappear.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:15 AM

Poor, poor bear.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM

(.\/.)

Tight womens v-neck sweaters for sale.

SparkPlug on December 18, 2012 at 12:10 AM

*facepalm*

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Hey DBear, just for you.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Oh Boy,just wait till the Gov. Nannys see this……..

….the Democras are gonna go GONZO!!

22 fraternity members face hazing charges in Illinois after a student was found dead at their house following a night of drinking – @AP

11 mins ago from hosted.ap.org by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM

It is time to address the issue of the untreated mentally ill in this nation. This is not a ‘guns’ issue. This is a mental health issue.

thatsafactjack on December 17, 2012 at 11:50 PM

On Saturday Jim Hoft had this quote up:

Connecticut is one of only SIX states in the U.S. that doesn’t have a type of “assisted outpatient treatment” (AOT) law (sometimes referred to as “involuntary outpatient treatment”). There’s no one standard for these types of laws, but (roughly speaking) these are laws that allow for people with mental illness to be forcibly treated BEFORE they commit a serious crime….

Earlier this year, Connecticut considered passing an AOT law (and a weak one, at that), and it failed, due to protests from “civil liberties” groups.

INC on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM


Pic of the Day: Gen Patton Has A Few Words For You

Resist We Much on December 18, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Third times the charm?

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:17 AM

SWalker on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

.
oh yeah, build your arsenal so you can live out your fantasy of going to war against the govt.

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:45 PM

.
You’re trying to totally disarm us, just so you can live out your stupid fantasy.

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:17 AM

I am saying you are all bloodthirsty, war-mongering evil people who cloak yourselves in your phony religion to somehow be able to live with yourselves. The reason you all want to carry guns so bad? because you are all psychopaths just wanting, waning to kill someone

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

BWAHAHAHAhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeppers. Ya just admire how those leftist anti-Americans never express hatred for those who disagree with them. They’re just so love-filled.

Well, D(ouche)Bear, it’s late and we’ve kept you from your favorite pastime: watching videos of partial-birth abortions.

Thanks for sharing. And thanks for the laughs.

Oh. Btw; FOAD.

Y’all take care, now.

Solaratov on December 18, 2012 at 12:18 AM

INC on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Yes, I’d read that as well as the article detailing the Obama administrations cuts to schools in Connecticut that would have allowed for a more robust safety program at Sandy Hook.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:18 AM

Tight womens v-neck sweaters for sale.

SparkPlug on December 18, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Who and what is tight?

arnold ziffel on December 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Earlier this year, Connecticut considered passing an AOT law (and a weak one, at that), and it failed, due to protests from “civil liberties” groups.

INC on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 AM

Also,

Madness, Deinstitutionalization & Murder

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Third times the charm?

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:17 AM

.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
.
Please, tell me you didn’t just leave your husband . . . . . . . . .

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:18 AM

The country would be a different place if the media simply reported all the facts on any given issue.

INC on December 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM

By Popular Demand!
(snark)

Ted Nugent-Kiss My Glock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiYyHNgeFA8

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:21 AM

INC on December 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Absolutely. No spin, no angle, just all the facts related to any given incident in an objective and dispassionate way.

thatsafactjack on December 18, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Poor, poor bear, doesn’t even make good jerky.

Bmore on December 18, 2012 at 12:22 AM

DBear, I found a great hypocrisy story, just for you and Obama.

Schadenfreude on December 18, 2012 at 12:22 AM

I am saying you are all bloodthirsty, war-mongering evil people who cloak yourselves in your phony religion to somehow be able to live with yourselves. The reason you all want to carry guns so bad? because you are all psychopaths just wanting, waning to kill someone

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:42 PM

You know, since you seem to be so anti-American and fear the citizens that have populated this country for the past two centuries, and since we really aren’t interested in changing, maybe you would be better served by finding a country in which you can live under laws that you are trying to force on us. There are already plenty of countries out there with the gun laws you so desire and the social paradigm that you espouse. Why are you trying to force that on the United States? Pick one of those countries and emigrate to it. Why should the one last country on earth with a modicum of individual liberty be forced to be like all the other countries out there? Why can’t we keep our country the way it is and have people with your viewpoint move to one of the countries that already exists with policies that conform to your viewpoint?

Oh, that’s right, people like you just could not stand it if you knew that somewhere in the world, there was a free people not dependent upon the government for their liberty and security. That would just eat at you, even if you were in a country that had all of the policies you claim to desire. Because you see, statists like yourself just cannot stand the thought of people being free.

AZfederalist on December 18, 2012 at 12:22 AM

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
.
Please, tell me you didn’t just leave your husband . . . . . . . . .

listens2glenn on December 18, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Naw. Just a whiny attempt at getting attention. *grin*
Btw:I’ve been commenting in different conservative FB groups, explaining that AS doesn’t make people kill…and that AS is NOT a ‘mental illness’. I’m starting to feel like a broken record.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

You are all Mrs. Lanza

DBear on December 17, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Are you gonna cry and pound your keyboard, D(ouche)Bear?

You sound like you’re gonna cry.

It must be frustrating to know that everyone is laughing at you.

Solaratov on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

I saw a pick up today with two stickers:
1. Obama 2012.
2. “I believe in equality”.
Bigger morons the world never knew.
Schadenfreude on December 17, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I saw an even better one.

1. Obama 2012
2. Defend Israel/Defeat Terrorism

jawkneemusic on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

…….They will ban guns without any proof whatsoever that it will help matters, and despite much proof that guns protect homeowners and that concealed carry reduces violent crime……
justltl on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM

The erroneous assumption there. is that they might actually WANT to ‘help matters’, rather than disarm the populace so that they can control it completely; So that people are helpless against criminals and will beg their masters to put a policeman in every building, on every street corner.

So that when the economic system collapses they won’t have the ability to feed themselves poaching the Kings Forests of the King’s Deer
etc.

LegendHasIt on December 18, 2012 at 12:24 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Nice links tonight friend..:)

PS..I like the Patton speech link also..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I’m starting to feel like a broken record.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Don’t stop, Twerp.

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:19 AM

Thanks. That’s very comprehensive. I’d heard about the changing of the laws, but I hadn’t seen that much detail.

INC on December 18, 2012 at 12:26 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:11 AM

Pic of the Day: Gen Patton Has A Few Words For You

Resist We Much on December 18, 2012 at 12:17 AM

Resist We Much:

Thank-you,I love that one,and its a shame WW2
mentallity isn`t here anymore!:)

Check this one out,if you haven`t seen it!

Major airstrike hacked survalence(IRAQ).mp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_9AitqfaMc

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Thanks. That’s very comprehensive. I’d heard about the changing of the laws, but I hadn’t seen that much detail.

INC on December 18, 2012 at 12:26 AM

I hadn’t either, or even seen that argument put forward as such.

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:27 AM

Solidad’s homies in MS-13 probably think her whole anti-gun thing is gay.

WhatSlushfund on December 18, 2012 at 12:28 AM

I’m starting to feel like a broken record.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Don’t stop, Twerp.

Axe on December 18, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Normally, my Asperger’s is only a small part of who I am. Now though-it’s important for Aspies like me-that support the second amendment-help cut through the fog of lies and disinformation that’s been thrown out by the ignorant.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 18, 2012 at 12:29 AM

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:21 AM

Nice links tonight friend..:)

PS..I like the Patton speech link also..:)

Dire Straits on December 18, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Dire Straits:

That phrase,is laser-etched,er,imprinted into my
memory banks,and evening to ya Dire!:)

canopfor on December 18, 2012 at 12:30 AM

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