Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on December 16, 2012 by Allahpundit

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) said Sunday she would introduce a bill re-instating the federal ban on assault weapons on the first day of the new Congress in January…

President Obama “is going to have a bill to lead on,” Feinstein said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” The measure, she said, would aim to take “weapons of war off the streets of our cities.” “It can be done,” she added.

“It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation and the possession, not retroactively, prospectively. And it will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets,” Feinstein said of her proposal.

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“I think we could be at a tipping point for two reasons, a tipping point where we might actually get something done,” Schumer said on CBS’s “Face the Nation”. “First this was not a single incident, it followed a series of others.”

Schumer noted mass shootings earlier this year in Colorado, where a masked gunman killed 12 in a movie theater, Oregon, where a 22-year-old man killed two with an assault rifle, and Wisconsin, where the estranged husband of a spa employee, killed three people.

“Second, of course, it involved children,” Schumer said of the Newtown killings…

“Reinstate the assault weapons ban, limit the size of clips to maybe no more than 10 bullets per clip, and the third would be to make it harder for mentally unstable people to get guns,” he said.

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They all say something must be done – the same thing they say after each horrific mass murder. But nothing is ever done. The truth is that Capitol Hill has been paralyzed on gun issues for most of this generation, having last approved major gun laws, including the “Brady bill” and the now-expired assault weapons ban, in 1994. Since then, the needle has moved toward fewer restrictions on guns and ammunition…

But there’s little reason for congressional gun-control advocates to believe that this tragedy will spark a rush to legislate. When Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and the White House from January 2009 to January 2011, they didn’t reauthorize the assault weapons ban or put any other gun laws on the books. Party leaders have been afraid of a potential political backlash against culturally conservative Democrats from swing states, some of whom want to keep the National Rifle Association in their camp – or at least on the sidelines…

[Rep. Carolyn] McCarthy has said she’s willing to embarrass Obama publicly if he doesn’t take up the issue – and that’s what she conveyed to the White House before Friday’s killings.

“I agree this is not the time to talk about [gun control],” she told POLITICO’s Reid Epstein. “It should have been talked about years ago when we started having these mass shootings. It should have been done when Gabby Giffords was shot.”

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Hollywood has responded to the rampage at a Connecticut elementary school by pulling back on its offerings, and one star says the entertainment industry should take some responsibility for such violence.

Jamie Foxx, one of the industry’s biggest stars, said Saturday as he promoted Quentin Tarantino’s upcoming ultra-violent spaghetti Western-style film about slavery, “Django Unchained,” that actors can’t ignore the fact that movie violence can influence people.

“We cannot turn our back and say that violence in films or anything that we do doesn’t have a sort of influence,” Foxx said in an interview on Saturday. “It does.”

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In a discussion about America’s mental health system, Crowley and asked Hickenlooper whether the “culture of guns” creates a situation in which gun crimes are inevitable. “There is very little you can do to stop a determined person, do you feel that way,” Crowley asked.

Hickenlooper agreed wholeheartedly, and said we need to have “more people paying attention and trying to detect folks that are unstable” or “on the verge of real trouble.”

He went on to say our violent culture, including the “depiction of assault weapons again and again” in video games and the media contributes to gun crimes. The governor also suggested that the criminals might, in their minds, “become part of the video games” when they carry out these tragic crimes.

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I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me…

I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am Jason Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness

I don’t believe my son belongs in jail. The chaotic environment exacerbates Michael’s sensitivity to sensory stimuli and doesn’t deal with the underlying pathology. But it seems like the United States is using prison as the solution of choice for mentally ill people. According to Human Rights Watch, the number of mentally ill inmates in U.S. prisons quadrupled from 2000 to 2006, and it continues to rise—in fact, the rate of inmate mental illness is five times greater (56 percent) than in the non-incarcerated population.

No one wants to send a 13-year old genius who loves Harry Potter and his snuggle animal collection to jail. But our society, with its stigma on mental illness and its broken healthcare system, does not provide us with other options. Then another tortured soul shoots up a fast food restaurant. A mall. A kindergarten classroom. And we wring our hands and say, “Something must be done.”

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Brooks said that, while he greatly admires Mayor Bloomberg, he is unsure that a big city mayor is the most effective spokesperson for the cause of gun control.

“One of the problems with this debate; it’s become a values war. It’s perceived as urban versus rural. And, frankly, it’s perceived as an attack on the lifestyle of rural people by urban people. And, I admire Mayor Bloomberg enormously – there’s probably no politician I agree with more – but it’s counterproductive to have him as the spokesperson for the gun law movement. There has to be more respect and more people, frankly, from rural and red America who are participants in this.”

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“I’m not sure so — and I’m sure I’ll get nailed for this — I wouldn’t want one person in a school armed, ready for this kind of thing,” Bennett said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

“It has to be someone who is trained, it has to be someone who is responsible,” he said. “But my God, if you can prevent this kind of thing.”

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“It’s time for the president, I think, to stand up and lead and tell this country what we should do.”

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I wish to God (the principal) had had an M4 in her office, locked up, so when she heard gunfire she pulls it out … and takes him out, takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids,” the Republican from Texas said on “Fox News Sunday.”…

“Every mass killing of more than three people in recent history has been in a place where guns were prohibited, except for one,” he said, arguing for looser gun laws so more people can be armed for self-protection. “They know no one will be armed.”

Via Gateway Pundit:

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I think people who can’t feel pain or empathy are usually called psychopaths

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Hot Air refuses to show any of the President’s remarks on Newton. That’s just stank.

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 10:08 PM

O K !
T R O L L C O T T…!!!

P L E A S E

D O

N O T

R E S P O N D

T O

T H I S

D I R T Y

M O T H E R …F L U K E R …!!!

KOOLAID2 on December 16, 2012 at 10:35 PM

My Grandfather fought in WWII for what Obama is slowly taking away. As his only real conservative grandchild – it’s my duty to make sure he didn’t fight in vain.

God Bless this country – we need it.

gophergirl on December 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM

My dad and his 3 brothers were WWII vets and all came home. One uncle was in the 101st Airborne and received the purple heart and bronze star. My dad’s flag from the casket is framed right above this computer and it breaks my heart to look at it. My parents were Goldwater parents so the acorns didn’t fall very far. I get tired of fighting against what seems to be an uphill battle, but if there’s one hill I’m prepared to die on, literally, it’s the 2nd amendment.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Hubby was telling me about this site:

Tracking homicides in Chicago is an ongoing project of the RedEye. This site is updated regularly with information from the Cook County Medical Examiner’s Office, the Chicago Police Department and the Chicago Breaking News Center.

You can track by date, age, sex, cause, day of the week, community area, race, or locale. It’s rather shocking info.

Fallon on December 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151581751575620&set=a.427627345619.213652.521710619&type=1&theater

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 10:34 PM

^just can’t stop politicizing^

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Thanks! libfree has been needling us all weekend on every thread he demands to insert himself. I’m finally pissed off with him.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Such behavior on his part is merely indicative of the putrid gangrenous rotting feted mass that inhabits the place where a normal healthy human soul would be found.

SWalker on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

I think people who can’t feel pain or empathy are usually called psychopaths

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:35 PM

or more likely sociopaths…the notion he could not feel physical pain is a funny one there are a lot of people who got their MDs and PhDs cheaply.

I am just a layman with a few 300 lvl deviant psychology classes under my belt.

At any rate the “gentleman” was a good candidate for en enforced visit to the ever loving embrace of mental health pros.

My mother got invited after she charged a cop with a hatchet while I was at Fort Hood.

She was “manic-depressive” back before they decided it was called “Bi-polar Disorder” etc etc

Psychology, Psychiatry, and economics are chock full of dorks who love to reinvent the wheel so their name is a big one.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

I am slowly getting to the point I hate the left more than AQ.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 10:31 PM

They both want to destroy the U.S. so I really don’t see much distance between them. In fact, I’d prefer to see Debbie Wasserman Schultz in a full blown burqa.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

EG I gave you and GG some good news … did it help?

conservative tarheel on December 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Sorry..

My wife was giving me a haircut for the last half hour..

Backtracking…..

Found it..

GOD has a plan and everything is going according to schedule.

How is that … did it help

conservative tarheel on December 16, 2012 at 10:09 PM

It’s what I learned in church growing up..
And what I have experienced as an adult.

We are just a small part of the big picture..

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

I think people who can’t feel pain or empathy are usually called psychopaths liberals

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:35 PM

They’re not psychopaths. Their mommies had them tested!

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Hot Air refuses to show any of the President’s remarks on Newton. That’s just stank.

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 10:08 PM

You would know about that knothead. PS still waiting fer you answer from Friday re expiration of the AWB and gun crime increase/decrease.

arnold ziffel on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Transcript of Obama’s speech tonight in Newtown. Really beautiful…

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Holy crap! That would frighten any human being with more than two brain cells to rub together.

I can see why your kind would find it beautiful.

cozmo on December 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM

KOOLAID2 on December 16, 2012 at 10:35 PM

With you. But it felt SO good to finally blast!

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151581751575620&set=a.427627345619.213652.521710619&type=1&theater

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 10:34 PM

You link..

It must be so..

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Do I need to say it again? ASPERGER’S DOES NOT MAKE A PERSON KILL! AUTISM DOES NOT MAKE A PERSON KILL!
Please quit pushing that lie.
I have Asperger’s and was raised around guns.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 10:13 PM

And this, ALT, is what’s wrong with this country anymore. Let’s blame it on the Aspergers or Autism or some other condition. Let’s blame it on the guns. Let’s blame it on the parents. Let’s blame it on something, anything … other than what it is, evil incarnate. No, admitting that evil exists, always has and always will, is something that the elites just can’t accept. How pedestrian, they will say.

More kids were murdered in the last few weeks in Chicago, for instance, but we don’t seem to hear about that, do we?

TXUS on December 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM

axe on december 16, 2012 at 10:30 PM

im going to try and see if i can survive without caps by doing a caps-cott.

feel free to continue your boycott of lower case pal.

may the best man win.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM

My dad and his 3 brothers were WWII vets and all came home. One uncle was in the 101st Airborne and received the purple heart and bronze star. My dad’s flag from the casket is framed right above this computer and it breaks my heart to look at it. My parents were Goldwater parents so the acorns didn’t fall very far. I get tired of fighting against what seems to be an uphill battle, but if there’s one hill I’m prepared to die on, literally, it’s the 2nd amendment.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM

Yep both sets of Grandparents and my parents were/are very conservative. I followed right behind. I often get told that my Grandpa would be very proud of the woman I’ve become.. Greatest compliment I’ve ever had.

1st and 2nd for me. Heck all of them I’m willing to fight for. Because when one falls – they all are going to go IMO.

gophergirl on December 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM

Such behavior on his part is merely indicative of the putrid gangrenous rotting feted mass that inhabits the place where a normal healthy human soul would be found.

SWalker on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

True. Yet he comes here day after day presuming to lecture everyone else. If he truly seeks to claim he is somehow ‘superior’, I have yet to see any evidence of it. Were any of us to encounter Einstein or Hawking, we would know right away. But libfree seems always trying to ‘prove’ himself.

Not the mark of a great man or intellect, in my book.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

In fact, I’d prefer to see Debbie Wasserman Schultz in a full blown burqa.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

technically Debbie’s a Jew. She uses that all the time. When the Dems booed Israel at the convention – Debbie denied it completely. “I’m a Jew! The president loves Israel”

Sorta like that Seinfeld episode where he converts to Judaism for the jokes.

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:45 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

but if there’s one hill I’m prepared to die on, literally, it’s the 2nd amendment.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM

There are no hills I am prepared to die on. But there are a couple that I am fully prepared to kill to preserve.

SWalker on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I get tired of fighting against what seems to be an uphill battle, but if there’s one hill I’m prepared to die on, literally, it’s the 2nd amendment.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:36 PM

And you and I will be on that same hill together, for it is the Last Freedom, the one without which all the others are meaningless.

TXUS on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

They’re not psychopaths. Their mommies had them tested!

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

heh.

Barack got tested, but the doctors suck in Kenya

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:47 PM

im going to try and see if i can survive without caps by doing a caps-cott.

feel free to continue your boycott of lower case pal.

may the best man win.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM

WHAT! SPARK? IS THAT YOU?

SURVIVAL MAPS WHAT?

MAN FINS?

Axe on December 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

The Westboro Baptists Church is led by a democrat.

Barack Obama has killed more US Ambassadors than my firearms have killed anyone.

Have a day.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Holy crap! That would frighten any human being with more than two brain cells to rub together.

I can see why your kind would find it beautiful.

cozmo on December 16, 2012 at 10:40 PM

I remember when some of these losers talked about how “beautiful” and “peaceful” Terry Schiavo looked while she was dying from starvation.

They literally are ghouls.

Anti-Control on December 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Transcript of Obama’s speech tonight in Newtown. Really beautiful…

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obamas-speech-at-prayer-vigil-for-newtown-shooting-victims-full-transcript/2012/12/16/f764bf8a-47dd-11e2-ad54-580638ede391_story_1.html

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 10:35 PM

It’s so beautiful I’m going to enshrine it on the bottom of my toilet so that I never miss it every morning!

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

anyone tough enough to survive a caps-cott might even be able to endure a vowelcott.

don’t try this at home folks.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

SWalker on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

True. Yet he comes here day after day presuming to lecture everyone else. If he truly seeks to claim he is somehow ‘superior’, I have yet to see any evidence of it. Were any of us to encounter Einstein or Hawking, we would know right away. But libfree seems always trying to ‘prove’ himself.

Not the mark of a great man or intellect, in my book.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Like those AIDS patients who made a sport of collecting as many of the HIV viruses as possible, Libie is infected with a fatal mental disorder, he is hoping that it is infectious and he can spread it around here.

SWalker on December 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 10:31 PM

You’re vapid.

We haven’t seen one story yet about who/when/where gave the autism diagnosis. It’s second-hand info from the brother’s girlfriend, taken as cannon.

What we do know, is she pulled him from high school, to home school him, because of whatever choices they wanted to make for him in school.

If he was diagnosed with Asp before that, then his doctor would have told her this was exactly the wrong thing to do.

…and Asp kids can feel pain, emotionally and physically.

With the shooter, we have two separate accounts, years apart, from people stating they were told to watch out so he didn’t hurt himself in middle-grade sports or tech class, because he wouldn’t feel it.

Again, this was Years before he was put into seclusion.

That’s not autism, on any scale. That’s early schizophrenia.

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM

libfreeordie on December 16, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Have you taken a look at what happened to the overall crime rate in the UK after gun bans went into effect?

Scotland also doesn’t have a Second Amendment. We do. If you don’t like it, then get 38 states to ratify an amendment to the COTUS repealing the 2nd amendment. Until then, take Chuck-You Schumer’s advice: “Admit that Americans have a Second Amendment right to bear arms.”

Also, Germany has had very strict gun laws for a very long time. In fact, the German laws are far stricter than existing gun control in the US, or the restrictions that are routinely discussed here. Germany has strict licencing and registration requirements. Valid licences expire after 3 years. To even get a licence, people must past background cheques that include a demonstration of characteristics such as the subjective “trustworthiness” and convince the authorities that they have an urgent necessity for a gun. Of course, Germany also has requirements against licencing alcohol or drug addicts, those with mental disorders, people with violent or aggressive tendencies, and felony convictions.

Those very strict gun laws, did not prevent…

2002: Erfurt, Germany, where 18 were killed at a school.

Of course, after Erfurt, Germany passed even stricter laws. Those laws prevented the next school shooting until they didn’t…

2006: Emsdetten, Germany, 11 murdered.

Of course, after Emsdetten, Germany passed even stricter laws. I mean really, really, really strict gun laws. Those laws prevented the next school shooting until they didn’t…

2009: Winnenden, Germany, 15 murdered

Of course, after Winneden, Germany passed even stricter laws. I mean really, really, really, SO VERY strict gun laws. Those laws have prevented the next school shooting until they don’t…

Between 2006 and 2010, 2,600 threats against schools were officially registered.

Germany, 2012: Study shows increase in school shooting threats

Gun control laws have the perverse effect of increasing crime because they disarm law-abiding citizens, leaving them defenceless against lawbreakers, who aren’t going to be “controlled” by gun control laws.

Resist We Much on December 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Yep both sets of Grandparents and my parents were/are very conservative. I followed right behind. I often get told that my Grandpa would be very proud of the woman I’ve become.. Greatest compliment I’ve ever had.

gophergirl on December 16, 2012 at 10:42 PM

The fact that you’re a red girl in a deep blue state deserves major kudos. I don’t know if I could stand it. I’d be popping Excedrin Migraine like M&Ms.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

UGH I can’t read anymore, I’m all ticked off.

Have a good night all and God Bless.

gophergirl on December 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I can feel the love and the tolerance for differing views…..must be a far left liberal.

CW on December 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM

heh.

Barack got tested, but the doctors suck in Kenya

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:47 PM

And those records are sealed, too. The same for those doctors in Indonesia. And, the way things seem to be working out, I’m not too confident of Hawaiian doctors, either.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM

It’s so beautiful I’m going to enshrine it on the bottom of my toilet so that I never miss it every morning!

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

The exploitation by this president is something to behold.

CW on December 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM

The Westboro Baptists Church is led by a democrat.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Not only a Democrat, but an Al Gore fundraiser, campaign adviser, delegate and family friend.

Resist We Much on December 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM

The fact that you’re a red girl in a deep blue state deserves major kudos. I don’t know if I could stand it. I’d be popping Excedrin Migraine like M&Ms.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:51 PM

:)

It’s never occurred to me not to be conservative if that makes sense. Even as a kid – I saw the world in one way period.

I do hope someday to make it down to your neck of the woods. It will be my reward for living among the nutballs.

gophergirl on December 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Except the people here on HotAir don’t murder….
Or their siblings…

Strange….
Isn’t it?

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Our world works just fine without you liberals mucking up everything, thank you very much!

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM

The Westboro Baptists Church is led by a democrat.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Not only a Democrat, but an Al Gore

fundraiser, campaign adviser, delegate and family friend.

(Close link)

Resist We Much on December 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM

‘Night, GG.

‘Night all!

Fallon on December 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM

thank you.
I don’t want to there to come a time when I get denied the right to exercise my second amendment rights merely because I have Aspergers!

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Untreated? It’s not an illness-it’s a difference. You don’t take meds or anything else. I was diagnosed @ 33 and was relieved because finally, my quirkiness had a name. I then started educating myself on AS. I’m not sick or ‘mentally ill’. I’m quirky, zany, and a bit socially clueless…but that’s no big deal.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM

.
Our biological computers (brains) process incoming information in a different way.

I have difficulty processing phonetic communication. I have to ask people to repeat things multiple times, and then still have ask them, “does that mean XXXXXX, or does it mean YYYYYY? Or maybe there’s a third meaning that I’m overlooking. I’ve had people swear I must be deaf.

Such are the trials of an Aspergian.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM

My Grandfather fought in WWII for what Obama is slowly taking away. As his only real conservative grandchild – it’s my duty to make sure he didn’t fight in vain.

gophergirl on December 16, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Lots of things have changed – both in the U.S. and in Minnesota since the early 1940s. Heck, the Golden Gophers were one of the best college football teams in the country back then.

bw222 on December 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM

i’m a somewhat impressed that the mental disorder thing is getting so much (relatively) press…at least in the saner parts of the media

even Kristen Powers has retweeted a Frontpage blog post about the CT mental illness law and that the aclu opposed it. leftists are not able to learn from history or experience, so they will doggedly (rabidly) purse their lunatic agenda…but hopefully, there will be enough sane people to tell the truth

i have thought for a long time that the deinstitutionalization movement did far more damage than good. I think this is really beyond question now.

and so, leftists who refuse to reconsider this are showing a tell.

Just like the leftists who are all bothered about Climate Change..the tell is the no nukes banners.

these are unserious, ideologues. It is a grave error for a society to listen to them

r keller on December 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM

i really like this resist we much person. she came totally bring it. no wonder schad likes her.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM

The exploitation by this president is something to behold.

CW on December 16, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Well, at least I can brag about giving a sh*t for Obama.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PMv

This is exactly why progs cannot make any headway.

You can’t just go with the facts, which I agree with. She was a home-schooling, gun-owning, prepper.

She was most certainly paranoid.

But the rest? That’s just your need to be a flaming a-hole.

You actually had a chance to start a valid debate, but like the typical prog, pissed it away in the name of righteousness.

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

‘Night all!

Fallon on December 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Take care.

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I suspect there is projection going on here due to your sad lost life.

CW on December 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

she can totally bring it.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM

I wonder if Dear Leader’s SS agents had weapons tonight at the high school where he spoke…it was a gun free zone.

d1carter on December 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM

I don’t want to there to come a time when I get denied the right to exercise my second amendment rights merely because I have Aspergers!

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Ya’ know, I would say to chill out a bit. But I also didn’t figure 0bamacare to stand, or 0bama to get re-elected. So, rant on.

But be nice about it. It gives you the high ground.

cozmo on December 16, 2012 at 10:58 PM

technically Debbie’s a Jew. She uses that all the time. When the Dems booed Israel at the convention – Debbie denied it completely. “I’m a Jew! The president loves Israel”

Sorta like that Seinfeld episode where he converts to Judaism for the jokes.

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I was making reference that she needed a burqa to cover that face of hers. And the Seinfeld episode was when the dentist converted to Judaism for the jokes.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:59 PM

But the rest? That’s just your need to be a flaming a-hole.

You actually had a chance to start a valid debate, but like the typical prog, pissed it away in the name of righteousness.

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

What budfox said.

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 10:59 PM

With the shooter, we have two separate accounts, years apart, from people stating they were told to watch out so he didn’t hurt himself in middle-grade sports or tech class, because he wouldn’t feel it.

Again, this was Years before he was put into seclusion.

That’s not autism, on any scale. That’s early schizophrenia.

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Yes, I’m vapid.

That must be it. Our society has devalued life, the liberals made it impossible to have someone put into care against their will easily, and we have mainstreamed deviancy to the point that I would bet you money about 1/3d the nation would happily use the old Gulag Archipelago method of “you are not happy in perfect worker’s paradise comrade you must be insane….” idea of mental health.

I agree I suspect he was as ‘Bi-Polar” or whatever they will call it next year as my mother rest her soul….

she was put in care thanks to a cop that suckered her into taking a swing.

It should NOT have taken an assault to get her made to get help.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 11:00 PM

anyone tough enough to survive a caps-cott might even be able to endure a vowelcott.

don’t try this at home folks.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 10:49 PM

wuss.

can’t even handle a consonant-cott

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM

listens2glenn on December 16, 2012 at 10:56 PM

I was unfriended by 9 conservative female FB friends because I wasn’t sufficiently emotional/huggy over the horror on Friday. One of said women has an AS-so she should’ve ‘gotten it’.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Not only a Democrat, but an Al Gore

fundraiser, campaign adviser, delegate and family friend.

(Close link)

Resist We Much on December 16, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Yes sir, for a bunch of people who hate Patriotism Donks LOVE false flags.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 11:02 PM

I was making reference that she needed a burqa to cover that face of hers. And the Seinfeld episode was when the dentist converted to Judaism for the jokes.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 10:59 PM

I know :) I was just expounding on Debbie

good catch on the dentist. I couldn’t remember who it was.

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

D(bag)Bear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

LOL

Do you think it says anything positive and admirable about you that you come into a place like this and preach sanctimoniously, knowing that no one but those who already agree with you are going to take you seriously?

You are an unhappy person who should try taking your own advice before you dole it out to others – that you aren’t smart enough to realize this on your own shows what a moron you are, and it explains why you aren’t taken seriously here! :)

Anti-Control on December 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Outlaw cars because Eduard Kennedy killed a woman with a car.

Outlaw airplanes because sometimes they fall out of the sky and people die.

Leftists are the stupidest people on Earth. Always starve them.

Obama is the most indecent person in AmeriKa.

He is a political vulture who feeds on carrion.

Schadenfreude on December 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

It’s never occurred to me not to be conservative if that makes sense. Even as a kid – I saw the world in one way period.

I do hope someday to make it down to your neck of the woods. It will be my reward for living among the nutballs.

gophergirl on December 16, 2012 at 10:53 PM

There’s nothing as sweet and good and perfect as a Texan-in-waiting.

TXUS on December 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

You aren’t cut out for this job. What you guys need — take this message back to camp — is a concern troll. The false guilt you are offering will never stick because it’s so obvious.

Contrary to your warped view of the world, conservatives are not leading toxic lives and inflicting them on children, and they know it. You have to plant doubt. Hasn’t Satan taught you anything? Go re-read the first chapter of Genesis.

Anyway, like this:

“No one is going to accuse me of not being zealous in protecting the second amendment, but this really has me thinking, guys. I mean, twenty children were just murdered. I’m beginning to think we must accept a few restrictions on gun ownership; we can’t allow this to happen again. There has to be some compromise between this, where we are, and what we want for our kids, all while keeping the right to keep arms . . . ”

See? Subtle. Now people who aren’t responsible for doing anything wrong feel guilt for someone else’s sins. And that’s what progressives traffic in — false guilt.

– Anyway, that’s how you would do it. Have a couple more trolls or socks come in behind saying “Agreed” or something similar, fiercely defending the 2nd amendment, “but.”

Axe on December 16, 2012 at 11:03 PM

The charlatan makes all about himself.

He’d love to take your gusn via EO.

How I hope he does. The left will have a war within their side about it.

Schadenfreude on December 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

You can’t just go with the facts, which I agree with. She was a home-schooling, gun-owning, prepper.

She was most certainly paranoid.

But the rest? That’s just your need to be a flaming a-hole.

You actually had a chance to start a valid debate, but like the typical prog, pissed it away in the name of righteousness.

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

paranoid describes 99% of HA posters as well. How many were so sure that the polls were being skewed against them good Amurrrica loving folks by the eeeeeevil librul media?

and how here many still think Obama is a muslim out to destroy America?

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Without You- Fleetwood Mac

thatsafactjack on December 16, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Dbear is no moron.

they’re a maroon. A fuchsia maroon.

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Thanks! libfree has been needling us all weekend on every thread he demands to insert himself. I’m finally pissed off with him.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Such behavior on his part is merely indicative of the putrid gangrenous rotting feted mass that inhabits the place where a normal healthy human soul would be found.

SWalker on December 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM

…and its regressing so after all this time…there is no point!…time to ignore it away!

KOOLAID2 on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

And you and I will be on that same hill together, for it is the Last Freedom, the one without which all the others are meaningless.

TXUS on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Well said. It’s the last house on the block against a tyrannical government. Let’s see how far the Grabber in Chief gets when he’s got 7 red state Dem senators up for re-election in 2014.

TxAnn56 on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

thank you.
I don’t want to there to come a time when I get denied the right to exercise my second amendment rights merely because I have Aspergers!

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I have PTSD, I’m in a similar boat.

Look good lobbying got it taken out of DSM V….

there you have it.

All of the current Hollywood “Designer Diagnosis” cool that PTSD never got actually quite the contray “we’re all time bombs” don’t you know and now NONE of the stigma of an actual you know “syndrome.”

Perhaps they’ll succeed in lobbying away Munchausen by Proxy by DSM VI.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I was unfriended by 9 conservative female FB friends because I wasn’t sufficiently emotional/huggy over the horror on Friday. One of said women has an AS-so she should’ve ‘gotten it’.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM

My sister, who is Canadian, was lighting off about handguns and that there’s no use for them except to kill people. Another Canadian was agreeing with her out the wazoo.

It took everything I had to bite my tongue and keep silent.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM

i’m watching and waiting for axe to crumble under pressure. no one knows how long this stand off can go on.

just getting the second wind on my caps-cott so i won’t hit the wall anytime soon. good thing i did some serious caps loading the day before.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

and how here many still think Obama is a muslim out to destroy America?

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

and you think he’s what? a Christian!

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:07 PM

My sister, who is Canadian, was lighting off about handguns and that there’s no use for them except to kill people. Another Canadian was agreeing with her out the wazoo.

It took everything I had to bite my tongue and keep silent.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I was taught in training that a belt has many nice uses for infiltration drills.

Neo luddites are a bigger threat than ANY sufferer of a non psychotic or sociopathic tendency based condition.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 11:08 PM

paranoid describes 99% of HA posters as well. How many were so sure that the polls were being skewed against them good Amurrrica loving folks by the eeeeeevil librul media?

and how here many still think Obama is a muslim out to destroy America?

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Obama will destroy American..
Along with your help.
Muslim or not..

Take care..

I guess I am among the 99%ers.

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

Actually, AS is now a sub…category? of autism. Most aspies are NOT pleased with the change.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 11:01 PM

A friendly word of advice, if I may.

Get the heck off of facebook!

Use if for friends and family. Folks you know from outside the interwebs.

Its good for relatives out of state that you call once in a while. Or, as in our case, is in Afghanistan. But it shares too much information with people that you only know from electronic bits of information.

Didn’t we go through this before…

cozmo on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

awesome. jackie and schad have arrived. all we need is b9, 4grace and cindy.

i miss flora.

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

…and its regressing so after all this time…there is no point!…time to ignore it away!

KOOLAID2 on December 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

I put out on another thread that maybe HA will have an ‘ignore’ option, so we can individually choose to see or not see the posts of a troll.

Of course, I expect that to happen some time after Obama declares himself Chinese-Irish.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I get it. I have a close family member whose Asp. He’s one of the best people I know.

But we’ve got to face some facts here.

Certain groups – the NRA being one – are going to point at any little thing they can, just to blur the situation.

The CT school board is also going to muck the facts up, as are any doctors who she consulted, and even the father.

Some people here are going to drink the kool-aid because they have vested interests that are going to be under attack.

Gun rights, home-schooling, preppers.

She is in the right’s wheelhouse.

How is Beck, Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc…going to make the classical argument of “personal responsibility”?

She did.

People want to argue that the guns weren’t secure, so it was an abdication.

But she used to leave him alone, frequently.

So how do we know she didn’t teach him the combination, as a matter of survival/protection?

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I guess I am among the 99%ers.

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

That makes two of us.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

SparkPlug on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I miss Flora, too. :(

Good evening, Spark. I see you’re in the middle of a caps-cott. I wish you and Axe luck. :)

thatsafactjack on December 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

In short you were, are, and always will be, a Fool, a thuggish fool, the most dangerous kind.

Schadenfreude on December 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I gave your post a short thought or two. You should see my kids in their little SS uniforms. And they are really quick with the salutes.
Still working on the goose stepping.
Still have your BMW or did you lose it at the SF crackhouse?

arnold ziffel on December 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

@ sparkplug

I saw B9 really early this morning. She’s not happy with the site

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

I’m getting my Christmas bonus on Thursday. Would you recommend a pistol or a revolver for little hands(Mine).

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 9:17 PM

I have a Taurus .38 Special. I find it very easy to handle. My dad just bought a Ruger .357. When we were shooting, I tried his, and I did pretty well with it too, but I felt better with my smaller gun.

Night Owl on December 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

in short, she was a lot like the people here at Hot Air.

Please look at the toxic, disturbing lives you are all leading your children down

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 10:46 PM

.
You’re a left-wing nutcase, who probably has to make stuff up and post it as fact to support your false premise.

I’m also thinking you probably couldn’t survive on your own, if you had to.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

paranoid describes 99% of …

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Bush caused 9/11.

Bush blew up the levees.

Bush will cancel the 2004 elections.

Bush will cancel the 2008 elections.

The Koch Brothers are behind everything except…

The stuff that Sheldon Adelson is behind and…

The stuff that Richard Mellon Scaife is behind and..

The stuff that Darth Cheney controls and…

The stuff that the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS and Israel control and…

The stuff that “shawdowy figures with ties to overseas money” control and…

The stuff that the bankers, MIC, AFP, NRA, etc, control and…

The stuff that the VAST RIGHT-WING BLOODY CONSPIRACY control.

The projection is strong with this one.

Resist We Much on December 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Best depiction of a dentist on film – Steve Martin in Little House of Horrors

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

That makes two of us.

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

+1000

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Actually, AS is now a sub…category? of autism. Most aspies are NOT pleased with the change.

annoyinglittletwerp on December 16, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Yes but they also altered by my intitial reading the way that they are categorizing autism with a whole new charming checklist.

My guess is that about 1/3d to 2/3ds of Asperger’s patients are not going to meet the new diagnostic guidelines as an autism subcatgory.

Not that I practice,or am in any way qualified to make hard judgements.

I am also not a lawyer, a barista, or a licensed massage therapist.

harlekwin15 on December 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Stuck In The Middle With You – Stealers Wheel

thatsafactjack on December 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

The projection is strong with this one.

Resist We Much on December 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

But it is all true.. – DBear..

Electrongod on December 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

DBear on December 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Just keep proving me right.

Progs are idiots.

You’ll never win because you have no self-control.

Look at Twitter. You’re just like Michael Moore. Instead of working off the facts, you disparage.

So, you’re really not after a solution. Just a bigger fight.

Obvious Trolls Are Obvious.

budfox on December 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

I’m also thinking you probably couldn’t survive on your own, if you had to.

listens2glenn on December 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

didn’t Obama have a creepy cartoon on his website…Life of Dbear

Slade73 on December 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

this kid’s mother was a nutcase doomsday prepper, a gun nut survivalist who probably stashed gold and listened to to glenn beck.

Like that’s any more ‘odd’ and ‘paranoid’ than forever-drunk liberal icons like Charlie Sheen who still say 9/11 was an inside job?

Liam on December 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

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