US, Germany send troops, Patriot missiles to Turkish-Syria border

posted at 1:01 pm on December 15, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

On one hand, this should not come as a surprise. Turkey is a member of NATO, and the mutual-defense agreement gives Turkey the option of calling for assistance in case of attack — and Syria has already launched missiles at Turkey during this conflict.  The troops in question will be manning these defensive systems rather than taking part in an offensive strategic deployment, especially with only 400 US troops in question.

Still, if Syria’s Bashar al-Assad gets desperate enough, the threat of escalation is pretty clear:

The United States and Germany are sending Patriot missiles and troops to the Turkish border, a warning to Syria’s besieged President Bashar al-Assad.

The surface-to-air interceptors would be “dealing with threats that come out of Syria,” said U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta. Threats would include Syrian strikes inside Turkey and fighting between the government and rebels that extends into Turkey.

Errant Syrian artillery shells struck the Turkish border town of Akcakale and killed five Turkish civilians in October.

“We can’t spend a lot of time worrying about whether that pisses off Syria,” said Panetta after signing the order Friday. He spoke after arriving Friday at Turkey’s Incirlik Air Base, a U.S. Air Force installation about 80 miles from Syria’s border.

I think “piss[ing] off” Assad is part of the point, and even more so, intimidating Assad into bailing out of Syria altogether.  The latest fear is that the Alawite clan will collapse back into the mountains, turning Syria into a replay of Lebanon a generation ago, with endless civil wars and territorial fights.  Failing that, Assad might be tempted to draw Turkey into the fight as a way of muddying the waters, which is why the US and Germany have decided to send this message.

Will this move by NATO convince Assad to give up and start shopping for dachas near Moscow?  Probably not, but it might keep him from escalating the fight in an attempt to draw support from his allies, which have been consistently at arms’ length in this fight.  But if it doesn’t, the US and German presence might end up dragging NATO into a fight that it has also consistently avoided engaging, and that might put us back in the same position in which we find ourselves in Libya and Egypt — with Western power (military and diplomatic) serving to put radicals in power in replacement of despots.

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Anything to help out to mooslim brother-hoods eh Mr. Hussein

lm10001 on December 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM

and that might put us back in the same position in which we find ourselves in Libya and Egypt — with Western power (military and diplomatic) serving to put radicals in power in replacement of despots.

“Precisely my plan, Ed” — Obama

Yes, world, rejoice in your soon to be sharia. Obama is helping it along, right in front of your blind eyes.

Go shopping now.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:08 PM

serving to put radicals in power in replacement of despots.

Some of those despots had no sharia. All of the radicals will have it.

Slavery is now legal in Egypt.

Sleeping with a dead wife, up to 6 hours is legal in Egypt.

Women have NO rights in Egypt.

Obama and Hillary not only approve but made it happen.

“It’s all democratic” – leftist tyrannical hypocrites, the world over. May you all Go to Hades, pronto, with your top leader first.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Something Obama and his sh*t, not Beluga caviar, consuming media will not tell you.

Hypocrites from the left, may all your heads spontaneously combust for your duality.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Arab winter

Philly on December 15, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Read this several times – Obama is king.

There has been no United Nations resolution authorizing the establishment of either a no-fly zone or of U.S. ground forces. More importantly for the United States, there has been no authorization from Congress, as the Constitution requires, for the Obama administration to intervene militarily in the Syrian conflict. There is, however, a long line of precedents of presidents waging war without congressional approval, including the aerial campaign ordered by President Obama in 2011 in a “humanitarian intervention” to save the rebel forces that toppled the Moammar Gadhafi regime in Libya. Anti-Western, militant Islamic groups involved in the fighting against Gadhafi’s forces later participated in the September 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic outpost in Benghazi that killed four Americans, including U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens.

Obama and Hillary have blood on their hands.

Why was Amb. Stevens in Benghazi on the anniv. of 9/11, officially and unofficially? Ask this question a million times, especially of Hillary and Obama.

Officially he was there related to this thread.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM

MeanWhile….in IranMahdiStuckInTheWellGoonsVille…..

NATO Patriot missiles along Turkey’s border with Syria could lead to ‘world war’, Iran’s army chief says – @Reuters

27 mins ago from http://www.reuters.com by editor
==============================================

UPDATE 2-Patriot missiles in Turkey threaten “world war” -Iran army chief

Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:11am EST

Dec 15 (Reuters) – The planned deployment of NATO Patriot missiles along Turkey’s border with Syria could lead to a “world war” that would threaten Europe as well, Iran’s military chief of staff was quoted as saying on Saturday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/15/syria-crisis-iran-idUSL5E8NF36A20121215

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:20 PM

***Alert *****

@AP tweeted:
AP
BREAKING: State Department: Ill Hillary Rodham Clinton faints, has concussion, now recovering at home

1 hour ago from twitter.com by editor

https://twitter.com/AP

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

This is also perfect timing to divert from the presidentin’ needed on the fiscal ‘cliff’.

A serious CiC and president would not even take a vacation, alas…HI, here we come, on your lavish dole, peons. Suffer fools, suffer. We’s living it up. Life is marvey.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Patriot

http://www.raytheon.com/businesses/rids/businesses/patriot/patriot_amdp/index.html
=========================

Patriot Missile Long-Range Air-Defence System, United States of America

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/patriot/

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:25 PM

BREAKING: State Department: Ill Hillary Rodham Clinton faints, has concussion, now recovering at home

[snip]

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Anything to avoid having to testify before Congress?

You can never take either of the Clintons or their motives at face value — which is their fault, not ours …

ShainS on December 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

which is their fault, not ours …

ShainS on December 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

What a black soul you have :)

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

…where’s Floating Rock and lowlife Dante?

KOOLAID2 on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

If you want to understand what’s really going on — as Schadenfreude has demonstrated in his grasp of the situation — I highly recommend (if you haven’t already) reading the presently three interviews (and more — like “Benghazi explained: Behind the lies”) with an “Intelligence Insider” found here.

Very enlightening …

ShainS on December 15, 2012 at 1:34 PM

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Maybe hill over did a tad on the wine tasting?

I find this just a little convenient for this to have happened near when hill was to testify, but I don’t trust anyone around bho!
L

letget on December 15, 2012 at 1:35 PM

which is their fault, not ours …

ShainS on December 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

What a black soul you have :)

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Heh. You’ve become one of my mentors … ;-)

ShainS on December 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Peace Prize.

Kenosha Kid on December 15, 2012 at 1:45 PM

…where’s Floating Rock and lowlife Dante?

KOOLAID2 on December 15, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Don’t know about FR, but Dante is desperately looking for an out relative to Article V of the NATO treaty — the “you attack one of us, you attack us all” provision. He was completely unaware of it until I reminded him a few weeks ago when he said that “Iran isn’t our neighbour and isn’t our problem.”

Iran may not be our neighbour, but it is next door to Turkey, which is “the next best thing.”

Resist We Much on December 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Anything to avoid having to testify before Congress?

You can never take either of the Clintons or their motives at face value — which is their fault, not ours …

ShainS on December 15, 2012 at 1:29 PM

ShainS:Oh crap,good one,could be!!

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Thank you President Bush. Thank you for opening up the floodgate to allow any President any excuse whatsoever to continue to attack countries in the Middle East. War is what you wanted, so that is what you will get.

I can’t believe so many idiots believe this is some conspiratorial move to empower the Muslim Brotherhood.

True_King on December 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Heh. You’ve become one of my mentors … ;-)

ShainS on December 15, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Might save you, or lead you astray :)

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

**Alert *****

@AP tweeted:
AP
BREAKING: State Department: Ill Hillary Rodham Clinton faints, has concussion, now recovering at home

1 hour ago from twitter.com by editor

https://twitter.com/AP

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

There’s no one to call at 3AM anymore.

Shy Guy on December 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

What would Al-Qaeda ever do without our help?

Wonder how they’ll show their gratitude and repay us?

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Obama and Hillary simply doing their masters (Saudi Arabia) bidding.
Offering up our troops as mercenaries to serve the Muslim Brotherhood’s goals in the middle east.

djtnt on December 15, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Thank you President Bush. Thank you for opening up the floodgate to allow any President any excuse whatsoever to continue to attack countries in the Middle East. War is what you wanted, so that is what you will get.

I can’t believe so many idiots believe this is some conspiratorial move to empower the Muslim Brotherhood.

True_King on December 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Um, the US signed the NATO Treaty when Bush was 3 years old. Turkey became a member in 1952 when Truman was still President.

Resist We Much on December 15, 2012 at 2:00 PM

President Barack Hussein Obama- Nobel Peace Prize winning War Monger.

Those American troops are 400 American lambs being led to the slaughter.

Just like Benghazi.

SD Tom on December 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM

There’s no one to call at 3AM anymore.

Shy Guy on December 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM

After Benghazi it’s obvious that she’s as dumb at 3:00a.m. as is Obama.

Plus, isn’t this timing excellent?…she was due to testify to Congress, over Benghazi, on Dec. 20.

God, conveniently, being a Clinton, gave her a stomac flu.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I can’t believe so many idiots believe this is some conspiratorial move to empower the Muslim Brotherhood.

True_King on December 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

I can’t believe you are this idiotic.

Look around. The Arab ‘Spring’ is Obama’s baby.

Let the tyrannies flourish, idiots.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:07 PM

stomach flu

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:08 PM

President Barack Hussein Obama- Nobel Peace Prize winning War Monger.

Those American troops are 400 American lambs being led to the slaughter.

Just like Benghazi.

SD Tom on December 15, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Blood and treasure…but when Obama does it “he’s the greatest CiC in history”. When Bush does, he’s “the chimpey war monger”.

May both go to Hades.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:09 PM

I still fail to see why the continuation of this war is a bad thing for us. It weakens our enemies, and strengthens our bonds with Turkey.

blue13326 on December 15, 2012 at 2:27 PM

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Maybe hill over did a tad on the wine tasting?

I find this just a little convenient for this to have happened near when hill was to testify, but I don’t trust anyone around bho!
L

letget on December 15, 2012 at 1:35 PM

letget:

Lol,ahem,maybe Huma accidently kicked HilRod in the head,
in an escape manouvre,from the scissors position!
(snark)

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM

OT, or not?

The soldier’s name wasn’t immediately released. The investigation is ongoing.

I wonder why the name is withheld?

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM

I still fail to see why the continuation of this war is a bad thing for us. It weakens our enemies, and strengthens our bonds with Turkey.

blue13326 on December 15, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Erdogan’s Turkey is not your friend. He married a radical and he makes Atatürk turn in his grave.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Thank you President Bush. Thank you for opening up the floodgate to allow any President any excuse whatsoever to continue to attack countries in the Middle East. War is what you wanted, so that is what you will get.

I can’t believe so many idiots believe this is some conspiratorial move to empower the Muslim Brotherhood.

True_King on December 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

True_King:

Its on Obama’s watch.And under Bush,Mubark was in charge,
keeping the Muslim BrotherHood Goons at bay!

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 2:47 PM

The soldier’s name wasn’t immediately released. The investigation is ongoing.

I wonder why the name is withheld?

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Schadenfreude:I missed that one:)
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Fort Hood soldier killed in shootout with Texas police who are still investigating why he opened fire

By Daily Mail Reporter

PUBLISHED: 18:47 GMT, 15 December 2012 | UPDATED: 18:47 GMT, 15 December 2012
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2248693/Fort-Hood-soldier-killed-shootout-Texas-police-investigating-opened-fire.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

canopfor on December 15, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Erdogan’s Turkey is not your friend. He married a radical and he makes Atatürk turn in his grave.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Sending missiles and troops intended as some kind of “constructive engagement” to try and get some kind of “leverage” with Erdogan. That almost always works, look at Egypt.

Kenosha Kid on December 15, 2012 at 3:18 PM

Can anyone say Gulf of Tonkin?

Limerick on December 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Rubbing butts with those who are determined to convert us. Uncle Sugar and Auntie Templar are getting smoke blown up their ****s.

Limerick on December 15, 2012 at 3:22 PM

This is the opposition in Syria, supported by Obama and Hillary.

Leftists are bloody murderers.

Schadenfreude on December 15, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I can’t believe so many idiots believe this is some conspiratorial move to empower the Muslim Brotherhood.

True_King on December 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

And it is what, then?

Limerick on December 15, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Active military in Turkey…. 675,000. Send them missles!

Active military in Israel…. 176,000. Send them to the wood shed.

Smart power.

Limerick on December 15, 2012 at 3:32 PM

I can’t believe so many idiots believe this is some conspiratorial move to empower the Muslim Brotherhood.

True_King on December 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

And I can’t believe the idiots who buy this “freedom fighter” line.

It’s not convenient to believe that our own resources are being used to fund and support those who have and will kill Americans.

We loved these terrorists when they were taking out Russians in Afghanistan back in the ’80s, hated them after 9-11, and now it seems that we are supposed to love them once again.

Dr. ZhivBlago on December 15, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Yet another bad idea from the idiots running our country. Let em wipe each other out. Eff NATO. Why does it exist again? And eff the UN, for that matter.

WhatSlushfund on December 15, 2012 at 4:56 PM

True_King on December 15, 2012 at 1:55 PM

Thank you for the mental patient point of view.

xblade on December 15, 2012 at 5:18 PM

It is about increasing the sphere of influence of Sharia Compliant Financing.

SCF, coming to short sell your life and family into slavery.

tom daschle concerned on December 15, 2012 at 5:42 PM

“We can’t spend a lot of time worrying about whether that pisses off Syria,” said Panetta

Okay, somebody tell me if I’m going wrong here, but what about pissing off Russia? Wouldn’t sending U.S. troops and defensive weapons into Turkey potentially heighten tensions with Putin?

lynncgb on December 15, 2012 at 6:11 PM

Typical Morrissey mush.

Looking at big events, epochal in this case, and commenting on them as if it were Monday Night Football. You’d never know from reading Morrissey that our country is well past being on the brink.

sartana on December 15, 2012 at 7:45 PM

sartana on December 15, 2012 at 7:45 PM

Go start your own blog, trolltard, and show us what a genius you are.

MelonCollie on December 15, 2012 at 7:47 PM

Trolltard?

Pretty rough stuff there. Pistols at dawn? Maybe just a cream-puff for you.

sartana on December 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Don’t know about FR, but Dante is desperately looking for an out relative to Article V of the NATO treaty — the “you attack one of us, you attack us all” provision. He was completely unaware of it until I reminded him a few weeks ago when he said that “Iran isn’t our neighbour and isn’t our problem.”

Iran may not be our neighbour, but it is next door to Turkey, which is “the next best thing.”

Resist We Much on December 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

LOL.

No.

Dante on December 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Can anyone say Gulf of Tonkin?

Limerick on December 15, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Yes.

VorDaj on December 16, 2012 at 2:00 AM

Iran may not be our neighbour, but it is next door to Turkey, which is “the next best thing.”

Resist We Much on December 15, 2012 at 1:50 PM

Not during the invasion of Iraq it wasn’t. Turkey had no compunctions about holding American plans cash ransom and ultimately frustrating them.

David Blue on December 16, 2012 at 6:54 AM

Pretty rough stuff there. Pistols at dawn? Maybe just a cream-puff for you.

sartana on December 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Velvet gloves and a slap fight are more your line.

MelonCollie on December 16, 2012 at 9:34 AM